[03:06:49] <Althego> the launch is delayed half an hhour
[03:06:58] <Althego> i could have slept a little bit more
[03:44:53] <Althego> music started
[03:46:52] <Althego> and no launch
[03:47:17] <Althego> it was 80%, now it is 0
[03:48:01] <packbart> need more wind turbines to dampen the upper winds! scnr ;)
[03:49:41] <packbart> the Everyday Astronaut is going to simulate a spinning deployment in KSP
[03:59:13] <Althego> and the radiator is not warm
[04:02:53] <packbart> pfft. Everyday Astronauts scrubs the launch of KSP. boring!!1
[04:03:53] <Althego> lol
[07:18:47] <packbart> "try switching from KerbalJointReinforcementContinued to KerbalJointReinforcementNext" - is that stuff really useful? I tried (some) KJR once and it wobbled my large fuel station to destruction. didn't happen without KJR
[07:19:24] <packbart> admittely, the fuel station was a 3x3 cluster of 2 large 5m tanks each, docked together by two sr docking ports
[07:19:36] <packbart> so not exactly a nice tree
[07:23:00] <Althego> it used to beú
[07:23:16] <Althego> used to be useful
[07:23:35] <Althego> but i think if you couldnt add struts correcly you were not trying hard enough
[07:29:42] <packbart> "Expanding a docked container in space is one of the trickiest thing I've ever done with KSP" - heh. floating points, I guess
[07:30:32] <packbart> that Ground/GlobalConstruction container expansion magic might actually be a better TweakScale
[07:39:37] <Althego> hehe i read it as docker container, i was wondering how they manage virtual machines with ksp
[07:41:48] <packbart> managing the server farm at KSC would take realism a bit too far
[09:50:12] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure some people would play that game
[11:14:43] <Eddi|zuHause> https://make-linux-fast-again.com/
[11:15:16] <Mat2ch> That's why I have a Ryzen...
[11:15:48] <Eddi|zuHause> .. i have a 9 year old Phenom II
[12:00:54] <Lyneira> Is this a bunch of kernel options turning off various exploit protections?
[12:20:12] <Althego> yes it looks liek that
[13:06:44] <Mat2ch> It is, yes. And you only want to do that if you're sure nothing will exploit it
[13:07:10] <Mat2ch> Don't use a browser on that system for example
[13:10:02] <Althego> isnt amd immune to spectre and meltdown?
[13:10:38] <Althego> also i thought the kernel changes were necessary only until the microcode update happened
[13:17:34] <Mat2ch> iirc some fixes can only be done in the kernel
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[18:28:58] <Althego> https://www.gog.com/promo/20190516_launch_promo_surviving_mars_green_planet
[18:38:04] <Althego> scott
[19:12:33] <UmbralRaptop> That's a lot of DLC 
[19:14:05] <Althego> dont need to buy all. i just linked it because it is off
[19:16:30] <Althego> i remember something of a bygone era, the 486 dlc :)
[19:18:33] <Althego> the game lokos interesting but its price and all the dlcs deter me from buying it
[19:21:33] <TheKosmonaut> Worst for DLC is still EU4
[19:22:07] <TheKosmonaut> I had a lot of it till last year and I sorta stopped. I reckon I'd have to buy a few now to be up to date.
[19:32:05] <umaxtu> TheKosmonaut, I'm kinda surprised Paradox hasn't created a subscription service
[19:32:18] <TheKosmonaut> Pls
[19:32:26] <TheKosmonaut> Don't give those swedes any ideas.
[19:32:46] <umaxtu> might actually be worth it for the more casual players
[19:35:01] <Althego> hehe this intel security vulnerability is worse than i thought. apparently the only way to fix it is to disable hyperthreading
[19:36:19] <umaxtu> whens the rumored release date for zen 2?
[19:37:34] <Tank2333_> 3rd quarter this year
[19:37:51] <Tank2333_> maybe more info at computex
[19:37:57] <umaxtu> ouch, I thought it was going to be earlier
[19:37:57] <Tank2333_> computax
[19:38:07] <Tank2333_> combotax
[19:38:39] <Tank2333_> still earlier than intel :)
[19:40:01] <Tank2333_> maybe they abandoning consumer desktop cpu completley and only doing laptop server and GPU stuff
[19:40:40] <umaxtu> nah, they won't ever completely abandon it
[19:41:41] <Tank2333_> their roadmap doesnt list any 10nm desktop, and the roadmap goes up to 2021 or so
[19:42:22] <Althego> hehe
[19:42:41] <Althego> which means i am returning to amd after all these years
[19:42:48] <Tank2333_> i feel the same
[19:43:57] <Tank2333_> samsung are prototyping 3nm "allaround FET" maybe ill go Arm till i need an upgrade )
[19:44:39] <Althego> i want to buy a few raspberry pi 4s, but it is happening only next year
[19:44:59] <Althego> the desktop is slowly aging, but still ok for 1-2 years
[19:45:03] <Tank2333_> are running a bot farm?
[19:45:27] <Althego> so i can just sit back and see who wins the cpu war, and the gpu war
[19:46:08] <Tank2333_> i have a i7 4730 or so, i think that will do for a few years 
[19:46:52] <umaxtu> 4790k here. my only problem is that I'm starting to feel low on cores
[19:46:55] <Tank2333_> maybe intels kicks out amd from the GPU market, that would be funny
[19:47:05] <Althego> i doubt it
[19:48:30] <Tank2333_> and than Nvidea buys Intel :)
[19:48:54] <Althego> and then google buys all :)
[19:49:14] <Tank2333_> and after that Volkswagen buys Google because they can
[19:49:26] <Tank2333_> and Tesla
[19:49:31] <Althego> and install an engine that fakes search results? :)
[19:49:52] <Tank2333_> google will be Germified
[19:50:05] <Tank2333_> Germanyfied
[19:50:11] <Althego> the horror
[19:50:37] <Tank2333_> and guess who sits on top? Mother Merkel
[19:51:08] <Tank2333_> world domination... finally
[19:51:24] <Althego> i still havent completely healed from the damage the germans did to me. it has been only 3 years. i needed more for the finns too
[19:52:23] <Tank2333_> what damage?
[19:53:40] <Althego> bad experiences
[19:53:57] <Tank2333> Lederhosen are not for everyone :)
[19:54:02] <Althego> lol
[19:55:46] <Tank2333> so i guess i cant convince you to work at the company im working in? they would Give me 2500€ if you drop my name :), 
[19:56:11] <JVFoxy> ...
[19:57:07] <Tank2333> Furniture Factory with a small inhouse software dev team
[19:57:38] <Althego> furniture with software, lol
[19:57:59] <Althego> ok, one day probably all our everyday items are going to have code running on them
[19:58:17] <JVFoxy> once had a friend try to convince me to join up on WoW.. I never did. Then I found out they would have gotten a free month or something for each person they got to join up. I felt somewhat.. conflicte
[19:58:35] <Tank2333> For intranet applications and framework stuff i guess
[20:01:22] <Tank2333> the stuff we sell is Mostly dump... except the motorized desks and i think with motorized sliding doors (not sure who the hell would need that)
[20:07:00] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMO9uUsjXaI
[20:07:05] <Althego> i always admired the original experiment
[20:07:18] <Althego> to measure the speed of light without lasers, with purely mechanical equipment
[20:07:27] <Althego> that needed a lot of smart thinking
[20:07:50] <Althego> funny unit of measurement here: pixels / rpm
[20:21:10] <Tank2333> Im watching the second season of Startrek discovery... second episode and the violated the prime directive after discussing that they shouldnt violate it
[20:21:51] <Althego> i didnt even know it was running
[20:21:57] <Althego> then i heard bad things about this
[20:22:00] <Althego> it
[20:22:17] <Althego> so just as with star wars, this era is also the end of star trek
[20:22:28] <umaxtu> 2nd season is better. The Orville still feels more like traditional Star Trek
[20:22:38] <Althego> yes, that is what i gathered too
[20:23:53] <JVFoxy> miss the ol' TNG days?
[20:24:55] <Tank2333> what i miss the most is that in TNG the captain acted like a capatain, only gives orders and thinks about stuff
[20:25:53] <Tank2333> the 1st season of discovery kinda went bananas half way through the half before was the same :)
[20:30:39] <JVFoxy> Pricard had a bit of a story behind him as well..
[20:30:50] <Tank2333> wow... they went to a planet far away with a settlement with people escaped WW3, but after 200 years they dont even have electricity
[20:31:08] <JVFoxy> I remember when they were talk'n bout the one for DS9 before it was to come out.. don't remember too much though
[20:31:29] <Tank2333> they did not even try to invent things... just build a church and praised to god
[20:40:57] <JVFoxy> I'm about to place a station in mun orbit.. I'm having troubles trying to figure a good orbiting height. I don't want too low.. or overly high.
[20:42:03] <Tank2333> 7km
[20:42:26] <Althego> i would put it a bit higher just because of the time acceleration limit
[20:42:52] <UmbralRaptop> Depending on how much docking/undocking pushes it, maybe slightly higher? 
[20:43:19] <JVFoxy> ya.. I keep forgetting about accel limited buy alt..
[20:43:48] <JVFoxy> lol.. 7km.. far far too low. I figured at least starting around 30km up...
[20:46:21] <JVFoxy> pondering on a project: would orbital time periods of various altitudes be of any use to people?
[20:47:05] <Althego> not really, except for stationary
[20:47:19] <Althego> or maybe in reality sun sync
[20:49:23] <JVFoxy> more I guess wondering how long my crew on the surface has before a launch window to get back up to the station, when station is at various orbits.
[20:51:04] <JVFoxy> actually maybe a personal test project.. I know dv map talks about how much from 14km up.. but not about other alts..
[20:51:44] <Althego> doesnt really matter in the case of the moon
[20:52:12] <Althego> but even for eve or tylo, a few 10 kms dont make much difference
[20:52:21] <Althego> i have to sleep
[20:52:26] <Althego> to see the launch tomorrow
[20:53:25] <Tank2333> wich launch?
[20:53:55] <Althego> spaex starlink
[20:54:00] <JVFoxy> derp
[20:54:05] <Althego> 4:30
[20:54:14] <Tank2333> why didnt elonj tell me....
[20:54:46] <Tank2333> oh i might can catch that
[20:56:09] <Althego> but spacex did
[20:56:15] <Althego> today it was scrubbed
[20:56:34] <Althego> stream went on for a minute, and a guy told us that no launch today
[21:05:35] <Althego> hehe automated cat soaking gun
[21:05:47] <Althego> like the turret in aliens
[23:37:52] <JVFoxy> Hmm... futzing around with some numbers and a graph...
[23:38:12] <JVFoxy> did a thing for the mun....
[23:39:27] <JVFoxy> Got wondering... Mun's gravity is 0.16g... does that reflect on the slight curve of the graph I made? https://imgur.com/a/YYD0rGF
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[23:45:56] <UmbralRaptop> JVFoxy: indirectly? 
[23:46:31] <UmbralRaptop> Something something T = 2π sqrt(a³/GM) 
[23:47:48] <JVFoxy> I was just thinking if I had done this around Kerbin, the curve would be more noticeable.. I'm not even sure how one would measure the curve..
[23:49:32] <UmbralRaptop> I'd suggest trying a power law fit >_>
[23:50:37] <JVFoxy> I mostly wanted a quick reference. I was even considering a deltav change for various altitudes, but wasn't sure how I'd add that into things.
[23:51:48] <JVFoxy> Delta V maps talk about lowest possible heights. Some cases I don't wanna go quite /that/ low...
[23:54:55] <UmbralRaptop> I mean, you could work out equations for ΔV for transferring to or from a fixed orbit