[00:38:57] Has anyone tried Strategia in 1.5.x? [00:42:29] Contract Configurator is a dependency and it apparently does work, so I guess no [00:42:35] doesn't* [01:22:13] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Did aliens really build the pyramids? No, unless humans are the real aliens. [01:23:17] >_>;; [01:24:16] UmbralRaptop: There was an interesting HyperAllergic blog post made the other day, "Pseudoarchaeology and the Racism Behind Ancient Aliens", wherein ancient alien supporters brigaded the comments section. [01:24:18] Anyway, all hail Barnard's Star b [01:24:34] Action: Scolar_Visari refuses to bend the knee to an m type star. [01:25:04] Stannis B-type is the one TRUE king of Westoros. [01:30:39] Hrm, it already looks like something landed on 101955 Bennu https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap181113.html [01:33:52] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:34:24] What we really need is a Enceladus sample return. Is much easier than Europa! [01:36:23] Yes, but unless the sample collection is via flying through the plumes& [01:38:13] Hence easier! Just a longer wait . . . [01:38:45] Action: Scolar_Visari would also like to see more Io missions, if merely to acquire videos of volcanic eruptions and views of molten lava lakes. [01:39:13] Io orbiter! [01:39:44] Action: UmbralRaptop ignores the requirement to fly in the middle of a cyclotron. [01:41:35] Well it need not orbit Io, merely closely pass by it. Though an orbiter would be neat. [01:42:04] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders aerobraking against Jupiter on the way to Io. [01:42:18] In modulemanager, can I do NEEDS:[MakingHistory] or something like that? [01:44:47] Huh, Onimusha's coming out on Steam. [01:46:04] lordcirth: unsure, I'd hope so [01:46:20] Scolar_Visari: wasn't that a PS2 series? [01:46:33] UmbralRaptop: Yeah. It took 'em a while, didn't it? [01:46:55] Action: Scolar_Visari also notes it took Valkyria Chronicles a long time to port over, though they never did fix the tank controls in the first port. [01:47:08] Not that the tank's any good . . . [01:48:38] Action: UmbralRaptop guesses something unlike Grim Fandango's tank controls [01:49:28] Looks like MM just uses the directory name under GameData, so NEEDS:[SquadExpansion] should work for now? [01:51:36] if we had warp drive tech... but it preserves your current velocity before you warp over.. wonder how much delta V change you'd have to do once you get into jool's orbit [01:52:19] same as before only you just cut out the time it took to get over there? [01:53:21] JVFoxy, except that your vector wouldn't have changed over time as you orbited the sun [01:53:48] Action: JVFoxy does some figuring out [01:54:21] if you ended up in ideal position, vector was in line with a proper orbit, guess all you'd need to do is add delta v to make orbit since around kerbin would be slower [01:54:39] on the other hand, not in an ideal position, having to correct could be something of a serious pain [01:56:41] I have 1990's era game called Spacesim... very good representation of physics. Trouble with the game though, it was pretty hard to figure out when to do a burn out to another planet. [01:57:30] it it weren't for a bug in the game, you could have used real world time to figure out right transfer window. (someone didn't add leap years) [01:58:17] So it looks like I'll be taking over CTTStockRebalance [01:58:32] Would it cause any problems if I switched to unix line endings? [01:58:43] UmbralRaptop: Amusingly, your machine gun wielding soldiers were far, far, far more effective at taking out tanks than your own tanks and nominal anti-tankers [01:59:40] JVFoxy: If we had warp drive tech, you might end up dying from a burst of charged particle radiation. [02:11:42] I just figured it depedns on how you do warp tech.. [02:17:26] Scolar_Visari: balance, what balance? [02:18:08] UmbralRaptop: Well, since when did single player games *need* to be balanced? [02:18:36] Action: Scolar_Visari glares at Stellaris with its optional unbalanced starting conditions. [02:18:42] Depends on the game [02:18:51] might help.. if you plan to make them into multiplayer versions [02:19:14] depends on goals for interesting difficulty and viable strategies. [02:22:56] Hell, I sort of like 'unbalanced' multiplayer titles ala Alien vs. Predator 2. [02:36:59] asymmetric isn't the same thing as unbalanced [02:37:31] I was about to say that [02:38:20] lordcirth: Psht, the Predators were certainly unbalanced! [02:39:08] Action: Scolar_Visari considers a game where losing is nigh inevitable and players are rated on how well they lose. [02:40:09] Balance via score handicaps? [02:40:34] Scolar_Visari: tetris! [02:44:28] I was actually thinking of DEFCON, but that works! [02:44:35] Or Imperial Guardsman: The GAme. [02:45:04] Action: Scolar_Visari press A to fix your bayonet and charge the enemy Chaos Space Marine! [02:45:25] I mean, that *is* a feature of the RPG. [02:46:03] hah [02:49:29] As it turns out, a trusty lasgun and faith in the God Emperor are not enough to reliably defeat the horrors which lurk in the galaxy. [02:51:09] Particularly when you're a malnourished 1.7 meter tall hiveworlder conscript in a flack jacket fighting a 2 meter tall veteran of centuries of war encased in adamantium power armor and wielding a small cannon like one would a carbine. [03:00:04] Action: Scolar_Visari runs off to get eaten by a Tyranid. [03:34:43] I don't know what I hate more...Flat earthers, or the anti vaccine people. [03:51:23] https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/119480-15-kethane-plugin-and-parts-0100-now-with-background-scanning/&do=findComment&comment=3488171 [04:06:36] Draconiator, http://www.cc.com/video-clips/r5gc06/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-back-in-black---flat-earth-international-conference [04:23:20] Draconiator: i'm fairly sure anti-vacciners do more harm overall [04:24:08] because that became mainstream enough so that herd-immunity doesn't work anymore [04:36:03] https://www.twitch.tv/taniwhaqf [05:54:58] bit old but still https://www.space.com/42423-barnards-star-super-earth-exoplanet-discovery.html [05:58:43] maybe 2 days old? [06:03:42] that is like 1000 years in internet time [06:04:22] Anyway, I think the paper is open access? [06:05:17] Or not [06:05:23] Action: UmbralRaptop 🔪 Nature [06:06:31] http://sci-hub.tw/downloads/8814/10.1038@s41586-018-0677-y.pdf [06:06:41] ^paper [06:08:01] " We used a multi-" [06:08:02] dimensional generalized LombScargle scheme assuming a white-noise [06:08:04] model to explore combinations of periods to fit the data. [06:08:07] " [06:08:09] sounds cool [06:09:40] Lomb-Scargle is basically like Fourier analysis to find periodic signals in the radial velocity measurements [06:10:17] The difference being that you can have your data be irregularly spaced in time [06:10:33] nice tool [06:20:25] what's all the fascination with "superearths"? there's nothing particularly "super" about them, just means they're bigger than earth [06:20:40] that is what super means lol [06:21:00] we never imagined there is a class of planets like that [06:21:13] because our solar system lacks one [06:21:19] or maybe not, it can be planet 9 [06:21:30] ^ [06:21:45] and they seem to be really common [06:22:05] poor guys living on those, we have enough problem with getting into sorbit alreadyú [06:22:20] that may all be true, but i think it gets mis-associated in the press [06:23:15] maybe it wasnt the simplest name they could come up with. at least ndg says naming is simple in astronomy. could have called them big rocks :) [06:24:33] Anyway, the boundary between what's a super earth and what's a mini neptune is still in progress [06:25:10] (1.6 earth radii gets thrown around, but that's not a mass) [06:25:21] hehe [06:25:33] that's just guesswork based on density to determine whether it's a rocky surface or an ice giant? [06:26:20] IIRC, yes. Kepler radii plus masses via RVs [06:27:12] hehe it sounded like the creationist woman in the museum. nah, they dont know that, they are just guessing [06:27:17] Action: UmbralRaptop glares at the paper for using rainbow plots. Cubehelix, viridis, etc are not hard to find! [06:27:49] 1 MUSEUM [06:27:53] eh [06:27:57] i forgot about you [06:28:01] 2 creationism sure sounds like religion [06:28:29] it was not the point. the point was the dismissive tone [06:28:35] we should certainly use the word museum in more random contexts here [06:28:47] museum [06:29:26] I'm starting a 4 part youtube thingy [06:29:30] and Rokker could implement a bot that just shouts "MUSEUM" whenever anyone mentions the word museum [06:29:35] where I give a tour of the museum [06:30:00] nah, the fun is in finding out who said museum, shouting it at them, and then asking about said museum [06:31:03] we have a pretty decent museum about early and pre-history [06:31:24] i visited a helicopter museum once :) [06:31:39] history before history? [06:31:42] sounds absurd [06:31:45] I dont buy it [06:31:53] Althego: oh? [06:32:00] you mean the devils aircraft? [06:32:19] hehe [06:32:30] what museum [06:32:32] i thoght they already have their own wings [06:32:40] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubschraubermuseum_B%C3%BCckeburg [06:32:52] did they have Reichsflugscheiben? [06:33:57] what is that [06:34:14] ah the rumoured nazi ufo [06:34:19] no [06:35:57] those aren't real words [06:36:00] you cant fool me [06:38:11] 8 instruments over almost 8000 days o_O [06:39:19] Okay, more like 7200 days (20 years O_o) [06:39:37] the barnard's star data? [06:39:45] who wants to hear early german helicopter fun facts? [06:39:47] git st [06:39:55] hehe [06:40:13] classic [06:40:32] i'm pretty sure helicopters predate germany :p [06:41:12] the name is madee of two parts, helico as in spiral and pter as in wing [06:42:02] before i saw this in some video i never thought it was like this [06:42:18] yes or no [06:42:43] doesn't sound nearly as impressive as combining "lift" and "screw" [06:42:55] hub and schrauber [06:43:16] you germans need to chill with your words [06:43:22] you take it too far sometimes [06:43:46] always reminds me of the siemens tray lift, it had a hub achse :) [06:44:06] you're just jealous of the pragmatic simplicity :p [06:44:49] is there some special german name for dna? [06:45:11] i've heard the phrase "that's not a word" in english movies, but never in german ones [06:45:19] Althego: yes, dns [06:45:20] hehe [06:45:39] so not really, you just replaced the acid, which is what we did too [06:45:41] "Kellerspeicherstapelruecksprungadressenzeiger" supposedly means "stack pointer" [06:45:53] Althego: you got that backwards [06:46:08] Althego: they replaced "Säure" (original) with "acid" [06:46:18] hehe [06:46:32] accidentally it is also dns in hungarian [06:47:03] Rokker: you still waiting for a yes or no? [06:47:29] why did you do that [06:47:41] sure [06:47:56] you dont need permission to talk about stuff [06:50:01] Rokker: has anyone ever told you about metaquestions? [06:53:57] yeah but if nobody is gonna care, why do it Althego [06:54:00] its wanted effort [06:54:03] wasted [06:54:55] I'm off to bed I suppose [06:55:06] https://genius.com/Douglas-hofstadter-little-harmonic-labyrinth-annotated [06:55:13] because of meta :) [06:56:41] i'd like to point out that wanted effort and wasted effort aren't mutually exclusive [06:56:57] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uv5VO1qa9g just generally out of context [06:57:00] i'd also like to point out that it is rokker's fault i said that [06:57:22] we should make a museum of metaquestions [06:57:53] it's also my fault that you look up the piss levels of the ISS every so often [06:58:03] fair [06:58:10] tho i haven't had data in days [06:58:13] :( [06:58:18] what, why [06:58:24] no sig [06:59:23] probably the Russians fault [06:59:31] classic russians [06:59:52] always holding info on urine activities [06:59:58] >.> [07:00:42] oi [07:00:56] maybe they need that to refuel the sojus capsule? [07:01:05] that sounds like a reference to something [07:01:09] for reaction mass? [07:01:09] a no no topic [07:01:58] two iss lajunches today and tomorrow [07:02:51] when the last manned mission failed, there was talk about the crew having to leave before the next crew arrives, because the return pod's fuel was going bad [07:03:15] if they didnt get the soyuz rocket working in time [07:03:39] seems like they did a really fast job on finding the cause [07:04:04] i haven't really paid attention to that [07:04:20] altough supposedly now they need to reassemble the boosters on all of the already assembled ones, probably not too many [08:11:30] the time has come at last to design a manned jool mission.... while my first unmanned jool mission is still underway [08:12:00] I'm starting to think cringe has this....weird fetish or something... [11:01:38] don't ever question people's fetishes on the internet [11:02:29] if something exists, theres fetish with it. [11:24:21] https://i.redd.it/r0gwho1f4hy11.png [11:41:51] i think the real question there is whether patrick star is pro or anti communist [11:56:11] maybe has his own agenda.. [11:58:38] or maybe hes getting out of public eye and... [12:08:26] aliens [12:09:17] it's always aliens [12:12:09] if we got such a big alien problem, surprised we don't have an immigration office for the planet to deal with them [12:12:34] I know aliens exist [12:12:43] aliens near or on earth? nah [12:13:06] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v RyanKnack' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:13:14] why? even if intellegent life have hard time arising, the universe is very big [12:13:29] but that same argument also says that aliens would have hard time getting here. [12:36:17] Surviving Mars is free to try on steam for a day [12:36:26] It's fun, I'll probably buy [12:38:43] i already bought the game and the season pass on release. which might have been a tiny bit over the top [12:40:45] hehe [12:41:19] Also, Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion is free on HumbleBundle [12:41:51] https://www.humblebundle.com/store/sins-of-a-solar-empire-rebellion [12:44:58] for some reason i can't explain i feel pretty uneasy about humblebundle [12:46:10] Really? I've never had problems with them [12:46:37] i don't think it's that [13:05:40] FRIDAY! [14:23:43] Bah, a weather forecast that gave the temperature in meV would be awesome https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1063437077776338946 [14:43:21] My controls do not work in Vab or sph cannot rotate using lt/rt or delete using b, shortcuts are also not working. Have started new game reinstalled game deleted files nothing works [16:13:57] >loaded career save [16:14:35] looked around to see what was going on and near mun rover there are debris called "mun rescue". Hmmm [16:14:45] hehe [16:15:43] as it is three pieces far away from each other i guess it was landing attempt [16:21:03] aliens [16:21:19] some surely exist [16:24:25] also why are all of the aircraft in career so ugly [16:24:42] what, there are aircraft in career? [16:25:01] to reach places on ground [16:25:08] i mean those i made lol [16:25:25] you dont need to build those [16:25:46] there were some missions to get to places on kerbin [16:25:54] dont take those [16:25:55] long and boring [16:26:09] some of them also need avanced jet engines [16:26:35] well the latter kinda explains the ugliness [16:26:55] also there is that asteroid lifter to get the said asteroid to KCS [16:30:17] Gasher[work]: they're ugly because Bill Lear was wrong. [16:30:20] but to think of it, it's really faster and easier to make a rover and drop it from orbit [16:31:20] One study puts an upper limit of 0.3% of galaxies to be type 3 civs. [16:31:55] good to know [16:32:09] still a lot of them [16:32:34] heh, google shows the areceibo message. [16:32:41] i actually do that for some missions. i have a tiny rover with parachutes on top of a huge solid booster [16:32:45] the study of speculation is fascinating [16:33:28] when do we get the event horizon picture? [16:34:34] https://i.imgur.com/JgjyK6Y.jpg [16:34:47] i remember this [16:35:13] the power of noise generator compels you [16:35:23] I have it in my hands right now [16:35:41] blow it hard :) [16:35:56] yes [16:37:16] This allows us to set a tentative upper limit at 0.3% on the fraction of Karashev type III disk galaxies in the local Universe. https://arxiv.org/abs/1508.02406 [17:26:48] they really have this, cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KSahAoOLdU [17:27:22] somebody said some days ago that there is a agc restoration in progress, and i finally got to the video [18:10:32] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:19:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:19:21] https://youtu.be/Pllev4EvEgE [18:32:45] eh i missed the progress [18:33:02] nice night launch [18:41:29] the waveform of my trumpet is quite interesting [18:41:32] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186669324500993/513061011956301828/trumpet_wave.jpg [18:42:19] not a sine wave at all [18:42:35] if it was a sine wave it would sound boring [18:44:45] make it sawtooth [18:53:01] looks a bit like multi tone mixing [18:54:03] well the two main ripples are pretty much sine (or maybe triangular) so the rest is probably the trumept itself resonating while the presure front travels back and forth [18:54:12] you put a couple of tones together, they'll cancel and enhance each other in various places. Either way, interesting pattern [18:54:13] actually no [18:55:03] the main waves are probably the main tone of the trumpet, some prsure fronts going in/out/in/out and between them is the time between the lips movement [18:56:01] I should try different notes [18:58:11] uh that's weird [18:58:14] https://images.slideplayer.com/23/6628667/slides/slide_35.jpg [18:59:00] hwhw it looks like this :) [19:05:21] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:23:51] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: I'd die for the Emperor if that's what's asked. Er, you're not asking, are you? [19:24:17] kerbals dont have an emperor :) [19:24:29] maybe a chief rockete architect or something [19:24:47] The nameless Chief Designer [19:24:58] Korolev, fortunately, already has a name which starts with K. [19:26:05] Convenient [19:26:44] Of course, any photos the Chief Designer have ever been in have their visage erased in Paint. [19:27:13] There are rumors of an entity known only as The HarvesteR [19:27:49] Nyet, citizen! [19:28:09] Action: Scolar_Visari crudely erases HarvesteR from the record in MS Paint. [19:30:15] Action: Scolar_Visari also remains wary of 12,000 satellites https://phys.org/news/2018-11-spacex-satellites-orbit.html [19:31:03] SpaceX gets nod to put 12,000 satellites in orbit... sure nod had the nuclear strike, but gdi had the orbital ion cannon :) [19:31:29] if anything, kerbals would have a Kaiser! [19:31:33] Ion Cannon overrated! Mammoth Tank is best tank! [19:32:04] but 12k sats, wouldnt that make space inaccessible? essentially a mine field [19:32:21] Eddi: Kaiser Fredrick Killiam II. [19:32:30] Action: raptop remembers NOD getting a nuclear missile that did less damage than most buildings had HP. [19:32:50] Althego: Probably not. It's when you keep having to add more satellites to compensate for outages, and there's a very small timeframe for creating that constellation. [19:33:12] raptop: Superweapons in the early C&C titles were all underwhelming. I don't recall them being decent until Red Alert 2 and Generals. [19:33:35] Scolar_Visari: plenty of "Karl"s to choose from [19:33:36] Action: Scolar_Visari nods (har har har) to the Chinese Nuke general. [19:33:53] hehe [19:33:58] carl! [19:34:30] Eddi: There's also Karl Franz, but he's too busy representing the twin tailed comet. [19:37:40] i was thinking something betwee nhttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_der_Große and https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_V._(HRR) [19:38:28] There is only one Emperor and his name is Karl Franz! [19:38:33] For Sigmar! For the Empire! [19:39:54] well, there wasn't a Kaiser Friedrich Wilhelm II., anyway. [19:39:58] I mean, did Karl der Grosse ride a griffon into battle? [19:42:14] are we sure he did not? [19:43:37] I can't prove a negative. However, I can prove that riding griffons is awesome. [19:47:50] Is it a space station orbiting Mercury or a space station filled with mercury? [19:49:32] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:49:55] UmbralRaptop: Do Raptops hunt using the keyboard restraint method? [19:53:50] Scolar_Visari: aside perhaps from things like +q, it's sort of hard to restrain someone with a keyboard. [19:55:05] speaking of mercury, what's that bright thing next to the moon right now? mars? jupiter? [19:55:17] Mars, it has areddish tint [19:56:07] raptop: With Soviet Raptors, keyboard restrains YOU! [19:56:46] Something something MFI 1.42 [19:57:50] i was thinking mars, but i had a hard time identifying a "reddish tint", so i started to have some doubts [19:59:28] raptop: something something cancelled. [20:01:06] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:01:22] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:27:03] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:28:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/513084426784210944/DSC_0213.JPG [20:37:23] not long and you can take that thing to a steampunk festival [20:39:18] heh [21:04:54] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:05:09] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:09:42] Action: raptop slaps UmbralRaptop around in the patchy wifi [21:10:45] Action: Tank2333 acts points at raptop to act as a amplifier [21:11:09] Action: Tank2333 seems to have grammer malfunction [21:12:25] Action: raptop feels like Tank2333's hull would have a shape poorly suited to acting as an antenna [21:14:23] better than feathers :) [21:15:44] Cleverly disguised log-periodic antennae [21:17:27] that sounds like something a marketing guy would say [21:20:13] uh [21:28:25] my wifi cuts out every few minutes too, not sure why [21:28:54] Too many users? (Or if home wifi, interference from nearby networks?) [21:29:09] maybe it seeing inactivity? [21:29:19] JVFoxy: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [21:30:03] i can see a few networks around me but its not very dense populated [21:30:55] i also tried different wifi versions and chanels, doesnt seem to have any effect [21:32:29] it happens while youtube too, but the buffer is long enough it doesnt interrupt the video [21:32:39] odd [21:32:55] I'm on telnet... any of those connections stay quiet more than 2 minutes, router boots, no warning, no nothing. [21:33:43] so.. had to script a poor 'keep alive'... though I guess I could have updated my client. (1meg program to 20 megs and only to find they can't run on same system, weird incompatibilities) [21:36:33] maybe its my dsl router, i think the processor passes out for a split second each time my phone sends a report to china [21:37:41] because i noticed it after i got my Huawai [21:37:51] or to be correct Honor 6x [22:23:39] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:57:11] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net