[00:06:14] we have new info about the Next Generation Launcher from OA [00:06:28] .. [00:06:36] i got steam [00:06:45] RL10-Cs instead of BE-3Us, it's beautiful [00:06:55] also i changed my name to my fourm username [00:07:03] even though i dont use it [00:07:30] it's basically a twin engine centaur on top of some shuttle srb segments [00:07:34] I love it [00:07:55] Rokker, i got steam [00:08:25] GurrenLagannTSS: cool, now buy some games [00:08:34] no monies [00:08:41] and run some scans on your computer with a real AV [00:08:47] both irl and steam [00:08:54] like malwarebytes or avast [00:11:29] Rokker, send a trade request [00:12:00] I ain't got nothing to trade [00:12:30] do you have EU4 [00:12:37] yes [00:12:47] i need it [00:13:05] get some money and wait for a steam sale [00:13:11] because i want to ply multiplayer [00:13:20] also i cant get monies [00:13:32] its just too rare where i am [00:14:58] https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Joel_Parker6/publication/309393188/figure/fig2/AS:421622881492993@1477534136142/Example-of-a-TESS-trajectory-in-the-inertial-frame-The-phasing-loops-are-in-green-the.jpg [00:15:10] lets recreate the TESS mission [00:21:41] AVG and Malwarebytes over here. [00:27:51] For me, any ol' ground vehicle won't do, it has to be Jeb-Approved. I.E. it has to survive THIS test unscathed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfQA68WN9sA [00:27:52] YouTube - Jebediah Approved Mun Rover [00:36:11] No views [00:36:19] I'm trully first [00:50:28] I'll ask it first [00:50:36] wut [01:09:09] well, I just discovered if ya want an easy landing, do it from an elliptical orbit. [01:12:05] uff.. landing on jet engines, vertically.. starting to think maybe I should go joystick in ksp from now on [01:15:50] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:22:20] https://i.gyazo.com/b22b1190b77ee855029d0d4553558abe.png [01:25:43] ooh, nice base :) [01:33:24] That thing in the background was the landing stage. [02:06:27] the mun has turned black again. [02:07:45] https://i.imgur.com/ot2eCDN.jpg got a hit job in elite dangerous with a familiar name [02:09:09] hah [02:15:52] Is that where he gets the rocket parts? [02:18:43] wow is that in the base game :D [02:36:05] i should turn off the eclipses in scatterer [02:40:33] Jeb been playing Elite on his off time or...? [02:57:27] Another 21 thousand rocketparts on its way to the kerbin station [02:57:34] https://imgur.com/HMQUaM6 [02:57:34] https://i.imgur.com/HMQUaM6.jpg [03:01:45] well 21 thousant rocketparts and copious amounts of fuel too [03:04:25] oren hoping for big project or.. secret stock pile? [03:07:07] JCB: these will probably be used for the laythe project [03:07:45] laythe the planet... not the machine? ^.~ [03:08:20] No, lath; as in plaster. [03:08:58] sorry moon.. ugh also wiki plastering thing in your face when you go to the site [03:09:23] use an adblocker/scriptblocker? [03:10:10] terms and policies thing, updated back on March 6th [03:10:22] descending to 38 km is necessary to aerobrake this much mass [03:13:05] https://imgur.com/6LdGAZv [03:13:05] https://i.imgur.com/6LdGAZv.jpg [03:19:53] mass? [03:22:27] 115 tons [03:23:39] JCB: please metaphorically stab whoever thought repeatedly EULA-slapping everyone was a good idea. [03:25:10] well.. I'll admit, I didn't exactly hit the 'I agree' thing when it comes up. [03:25:56] fine, you wanna collect my data when I browse your site? You better have some good security on that site... [03:59:09] https://imgur.com/7EUxaXw [03:59:09] https://i.imgur.com/7EUxaXw.jpg [03:59:53] meanwhile, the crew of the educational expedition have a bouncy castle party [04:01:18] well, except that the inflatable heat shield is disappointingly un-bouncy [04:13:26] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5SzKM7g5Ds - His voice is annoying but...you might be interested. [04:13:58] https://imgur.com/ITpdXQ5 [04:13:58] https://i.imgur.com/ITpdXQ5.jpg [04:15:14] Draconiator: did you just say eev sounds annoying [04:15:19] How dare you [04:17:43] his VOICE, not HIM [04:17:49] lol [04:18:47] Draconiator: HOW DARE YOU [04:19:01] HE HAS THE VOICE OF A VERY HIGH PITCHED AUSSIE ANGEL [04:19:07] But wow....come a long way since then. [04:19:33] If he's Aussie it's okay then. [04:37:16] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R532kcB2bmY - And this computer was a vaccum cleaner in a former life. [04:42:00] Draconiator: that's not too loud [04:42:19] not as bad as my computer playing pre-optimized PUBG [04:54:33] https://www.roscosmos.ru/24748/ [04:55:55] i like the magical creíatures. the imperial stormtrooper is lol [04:59:02] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [05:09:33] https://i.imgur.com/n6vFmpx.jpg [05:11:16] argh [05:12:22] GlassYuri: no [05:13:29] My Mun rover IS completely crash-proof. [05:13:46] you just need to make it from all metal plates and bars [05:20:06] best if it is a cylinder and rolls around instead of wheels :9 [05:21:20] https://i.gyazo.com/d31dd786916bd4cc840d9a83e1257bbb.png [05:23:39] Draconiator: well sure but it should also have legs and/ore robot arms to right itself [05:23:58] yes, legs on top [05:27:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [05:34:13] https://i.gyazo.com/139ade97429614a4f46a44c188c92e84.jpg - Did this kind of thing a LOT and no damage. and I have some reaction wheels to do that. [05:42:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:19:14] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:41:09] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Technicalfool' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:23:02] https://78.media.tumblr.com/55df03186110eb6a383a70258c87bbd8/tumblr_p6ebrzw6Fa1slnajvo1_540.jpg [10:25:32] hehe [10:26:03] did you see my pictures from last night [10:26:27] no [10:26:31] stars? [10:26:32] https://i.imgur.com/AQmgnq5.jpg [10:26:43] moon [10:26:47] no [10:26:50] is jupiter [10:26:52] hah [10:26:53] and some moons [10:26:58] ah those small dots [10:27:06] the galilean moons [10:27:09] that's vega https://i.imgur.com/kPerTii.jpg [10:27:15] https://imgur.com/a/CcV0C [10:27:46] in this size you should have been able to see stripes on jupiter [10:28:02] unless the atmosphere was unhelpful [10:28:05] yeah but the sky here is crap and my telescope isn't very good [10:28:24] saturn next time? [10:28:30] you can see dots are kinda triangular for some reason [10:28:32] yeah I hope [10:28:39] hehe [10:28:40] I wish I had more soom [10:28:59] if this was a refractor there shouldnt be this kind of error [10:29:00] might try to get some lenses and try to increase the zoom I get with the camera [10:29:18] spikes are typically on reflectors because of the elements that hold the mirrors [10:29:30] my friend had a newtonian with a 14cm mirror but it didn't work with the camera [10:29:41] that is nice [10:29:51] azimutal i guess [10:29:51] focus was weird and his aimer is off center [10:30:09] nah equatorial but we didn't actually use the mount like it's supposed to [10:30:26] tbh we had about the same picture in both our telescopes [10:30:32] using lenses and not the camera that is [10:30:35] i would hate to set that up after every move [10:30:53] he wants to buy a proper one with motorized mount [10:31:05] his one is actually from the 70s [10:31:14] and the tripod is slowly disintegrating [10:31:17] heh [10:31:25] that is old for a mechanical part [10:31:33] mine is a cheapo from like 12 years ago [10:31:45] well the whole mount and telescope is fine but the tripodis wood [10:46:23] I just whitnessed someone get a call on his flip phone while chatting on his smartphone [10:47:22] progress [11:06:34] well for a while I had a phone that was basically just my alarm clock for the morning [12:13:42] I'm an idiot [12:13:55] I just realise that ftw is wtf backwards [12:20:01] :D [12:20:05] best times [13:15:40] https://78.media.tumblr.com/7e364d6398bbca18af8381c7b86d5bee/tumblr_p1n262nr8R1r846jso1_540.jpg [13:54:05] Quote of the day: "Organisations often produce web sites with a content and structure which mirrors the internal concerns of the organisation rather than the needs of the users of the site." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_law [14:26:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:39:57] Uh, that's not quite tomorrow, is it? [14:40:26] It's at the very beginning of the day after tomorrow. But well, whatever. [14:40:40] UTC tomorrow, anyway. [14:49:26] 'soon(tm)' [15:51:28] Hmm... so at minimum I probably need to bring 400 tons of rocketparts to Jool with me [15:51:54] and some various utility vechicles [15:52:22] so at a specific impulse of 900 [15:54:04] I need a mass ratio of like 9 [15:54:46] I could probably get away with less but sufficient paranoia is never enough [15:54:57] hehe [15:55:07] that will be heavy [15:55:39] so, that's right about 5400 tons of fuel and/or ore that will be converted to fuel [15:56:21] Did you mean "and/ore or that will be converted to fuel"? [15:56:42] assuming a vechicle empty mass of 200 tons which miht be a low estimate [15:57:09] Uh, if it's not manned, that's more than sufficient, I think [15:57:19] Also, use ion engines [15:57:28] Ion engines are great and underrated. [15:57:46] Mass ratio of 9 is nontrivial in stock KSP. Unless you feel like dropping tanks. [15:57:46] I could use ion engines but then the fuel cannot be mined for free [15:58:17] UmbralRaptor: might have to drop tank clusters yeah [15:58:33] ion engines are boring [15:58:37] not the engines [15:58:37] If you drop tank clusters anyway, you don't need refuelling [15:58:42] but i dont have time for that [16:00:19] I could use the open cycle gas core [16:00:31] Althego: Procedure: 1) Install some sort of extra time warp mod with KAC. 2) Plan mission and plot trajectory via maneuver nodes or similar tools better suited for long burns. 3) Start maneuver, set up alarm to T-30 min before it ends. 4) Go have a cup of coffee or dinner. [16:00:44] procedure 1 rejected [16:00:56] Why? [16:01:11] extrqa tiome warp mod and kac [16:01:17] But why? [16:01:27] i am in no mood to manage mods [16:01:33] you do that [16:01:56] open cycle gas core gets 2850 isp [16:01:58] You have no idea what you're missing out on. :-) [16:02:25] oren: A step in the correct direction. Make sure appropriate cooling is in place. [16:02:57] that is cheating [16:03:04] and 1550 thust [16:03:07] I do suggest you at least consider ion engines [16:03:57] Because if you drop tanks, your craft won't be reusable anyway (unless you make the tanks autonomous and re-dockable, which would be cool but weird) [16:04:53] APlayer: well it would be droppign clusters of tanks off docking ports, which I could build new ones and dock them on [16:05:19] In that case, you may build and dock fuelled tanks. :-) [16:06:07] But I think it'd be easier to build smaller nuclear craft instead. One time haul with this monstrosity, non-reusable, and shuttle with more sane ships. [16:06:25] but basically if I can get to an orbit around jool I can start mining everything I need from bop [16:06:32] or pol [16:07:03] and then start landing settlers on Laythe [16:07:44] the problem is there's not much chance of resupply between Kerbin and bop [16:08:14] There's a launch window once a year or so? [16:09:03] yeah. the first ship will take a crew of like 10, to provide a remotetech constrol point at Jool [16:09:34] and start building mining operatorions [16:10:51] second ship can take more kerbals and be much smaller [16:12:15] not sure where I will be getting kerbals from but I suppose I could do the whole Ore -> Metal -> rocketparts -> Gravioli detector shipping container trick [16:13:27] but it's kind of cheatly [16:13:40] uh im tired [16:13:43] why is it so hot [16:13:50] I need to buy a propeller for my desk fan$ [16:14:30] it is in the lower 20s when it is the hottest [16:14:46] i would call that warm [16:17:36] I think a 10" propeller would fit my fan [16:18:07] that could work https://www.banggood.com/QTmodle-1170-11x7-inch-Efficient-3-Leaf-Blade-Propeller-for-Petro-Electric-RC-Models-p-1030913.html?rmmds=category&cur_warehouse=CN [16:18:35] actually this one would be perfect https://www.banggood.com/Dynam-10_584-10_5-Inch-4-Blade-Propeller-8mm-Hole-CW-CCW-For-RC-Airplane-p-1149624.html?rmmds=category&cur_warehouse=CN [16:20:44] "stop using phones, read books!" fake book phone case https://twitter.com/itm_nlab/status/986207818628792322 [16:20:45] <itm_nlab> Œhj‹Äó߅a Î Î ¨°D{i®‰L¹Df‹ [16:38:08] D: https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/986256488510308352 [16:38:08] Oh no I've been getting James Burke and Edmund Burke mixed up. How long has this been going on [16:38:25] UmbralRaptor kicked from #kspofficial by UmbralRaptor: wrong channel [16:38:30] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:39:11] GlassYuri: Hah! [16:47:05] ... self-kick [16:48:20] It was a pretty innocuous tweet, but still& [16:57:57] :3 [17:00:57] with the open cycle gas core rocket, and a somehwat more realistic and less paranoid delta v budget, I can get away with only 25% of my ship being fuel [17:01:12] but better make it 50% to be sure [17:02:39] better make it 100% [17:03:14] ve2dmn: this gives a delta v budget effectively of ~20 km/s [17:03:40] that's awfully high for 50% [17:04:11] ^ [17:04:22] Truga: specific impulse of the open cycle gas core is 2850 [17:04:30] oh [17:05:16] requires lots of expensive uranium that will tkae a long time to extract from the mun [17:08:05] UmbralRaptor: https://i.imgur.com/gjye8Ky.gif [17:08:06] https://i.imgur.com/gjye8Ky.gifv [17:31:44] https://78.media.tumblr.com/7a0796ce01f409dfe3b054b4c8158163/tumblr_inline_ntl7qdNsXG1qeqycx_540.jpg [17:31:51] my plane will be ready to fly soon [17:36:59] this is not a plane [17:37:11] what a stylish look [17:40:26] btw, I'm still wondering how you could make a rocket with 100% fuel [17:40:44] solid fuel [17:40:58] yes... but would the push be directional? [17:41:13] if you make a partial hollow core yeah [17:42:19] I imagine once you get to the outer layers, it would probaly just fizzle out in all directions [17:56:45] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:57:21] Hmmm...Mechjeb CANNOT circularize just inside the atmosphere...(69KM up or so.) [18:26:53] https://i.gyazo.com/7888f0756728199aa976b746cd26e606.png - Experimenting again. [18:28:06] lol [18:33:58] What's the monopropellant for? [18:35:00] Ballast [18:36:57] ah [18:56:34] behold https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/435876104708947979/DSC_8766.JPG [18:59:02] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:59:11] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:08:00] ready to annoy the neighbors [19:24:00] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:30:42] Fluburtur: did you hear about the 737 incident [19:34:01] no [19:35:06] Fluburtur: uncontained engine failure, one dead [19:35:11] loss of pressure in the cabin [19:35:31] Fluburtur: also, nobody on the flight listened to the safety briefings https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30704466_10211397649559167_1480270661933858816_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=b53d250fca81eb023998a9ae1e778f96&oe=5B68ED6E [19:36:15] who listens about them anyways [19:36:27] that's something that wouldn't happen with a airbus [19:37:28] what, do a320s not have engines to fail? :p [19:37:33] Fluburtur: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_66 [19:38:01] did anyone die [19:39:50] Fluburtur: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447 [19:40:06] thanks for making me go there [19:40:12] np [19:40:19] I know you wanted to have some fun [19:41:21] seriously, this mask stuff is pissing me off [19:41:29] what a bunch of absolute idiots [19:43:44] Fluburtur: you do realize these engines are half french, right [19:44:48] like the A-10 [19:45:51] Fluburtur: what? [19:45:53] no [19:46:04] it's a dude from france that made it [19:46:11] but he's a traitor so I do'nt really care [19:46:46] Fluburtur: 737s use CFMs which are GE and Safran [19:47:13] safran makes nice stuff [19:47:19] I know someone that works there [19:50:02] Fluburtur: it was prolly a safran part that failed [19:55:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:59:27] UmbralRaptop: thx for the unblock. Weird that blocking other users blocked me too [19:59:45] IP& things& [20:00:02] Action: UmbralRaptop pokes IPv4 with a netmask, [20:03:22] Olympic1: again, sorry. >_< [20:03:32] np [20:04:47] UmbralRaptop: ipcalc is your friend [20:06:03] ve2dmn: In this case it's something like NATs+how mediawiki chooses things when you IP-ban an account. I think. [20:06:59] The joy of tech [20:13:46] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:19:18] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [20:19:18] TIL Google has an infobox for StackOverflow [20:47:30] Fluburtur: now kith https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da1QtMrX0AEMB-x.jpg [20:47:49] lel [22:10:23] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:10:29] Evening, Gentlemen. [22:16:12] uhhhhhhhhhhhh https://twitter.com/mashable/status/986289938554646528?s=19 [22:16:12] <mashable> The first zero emissions ship is sailing around the world õ https://t.co/oKKF6NbO6w [22:16:19] no mashable [22:16:20] no [22:16:40] or just any boat with sails [22:16:57] also https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/435876104708947979/DSC_8766.JPG [22:20:30] Fluburtur: http://www.air-and-space.com/nara/342usaf21378%20041719%20XB-36%2042-13570%20right%20front%20in%20flgiht%20l.jpg [22:20:45] ugly [22:25:12] that's a real WWII bomber https://i.pinimg.com/originals/55/28/78/5528784a9adfe73121d9cca276045c6d.jpg [22:26:26] french 222222222222.2 bomber? [22:26:36] ye [22:26:45] it's a really nice one in war thunder in low ranks [22:27:03] that is why i knew of it. [22:27:41] and the repeated 2's is because of the french premium arty in WoT [22:49:13] .in 24h SpaceX launche go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY-0uBIYYKk (probably) [22:49:22] oups, wrong channel [22:49:58] well... relevant info anyway... just no bot supporting the '.in' command [22:56:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:25:14] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [23:25:14] ve2dmn: also there is gonna be a proton failure in ~23 hours [23:25:22] I mean proton launch [23:34:02] Rokker: I believe you're mistaken [23:34:12] Glorious proton best rocket [23:34:21] Did RTLS before weak falcon [23:36:50] TheKosmonaut: I think Redstone wins that. [23:37:59] Hiiiii [23:38:59] GurrenLagannCWP: hi [23:39:06] UmbralRaptop: American propaganda [23:41:31] What is the half-life of a proton? [23:41:57] 10^47 years, ve2dmn [23:43:56] ve2dmn: approx 50 picosecs after liftoff [23:51:58] ve2dmn: >10^33 years, possibly much longer. [23:52:18] did anyone ever saw a proton decay? [23:52:35] no [23:53:05] because it wont happen until 10^43 years from now [23:55:09] then, how do we know? [23:55:28] SCIEEEENCEEE [23:55:46] ... that bit I guessed