[02:44:13] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-sA3R4MWjA&t=63s Will astronauts on the Moon be able to kneel down on one knee and pick up stuff with a hand? [04:05:34] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Althego' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:29:19] soyuz is landing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXMyPe0hm60 [07:24:37] hehe, tsmc expects increased capacity for 2023. so shortages continue for 2 more years [08:01:59] zombanwa [08:21:24] 1 second [08:21:31] literally 1 second [08:21:37] that has to be the fastest ever [08:25:14] ? [08:26:46] [10:22:06] * Guest51648 (webchat@118.217.28.221) has joined [08:26:46] [10:22:07] * Guest51648 has quit (Client Quit) [09:16:41] Althego: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-sA3R4MWjA [09:16:52] have a look at the carefully selected SpaceX Starship images. :D [09:17:28] carefully selected not exploded? [09:17:37] and if darsie appears, them em that the new NASA space suits should make it possible to kneel down [09:17:39] but at least they already have something while the others dont [09:17:48] yup [09:17:54] Showing a landed Starship [09:18:02] not showing how it blows up minutes after that. ;) [09:18:23] that whole flip is not needed on the moon [09:18:38] so it doesnt matter that much [09:18:39] and they will use smaller engines to land [09:18:42] with much more control [09:18:51] and have different landing gear on it [09:18:58] and so forth. [09:19:19] and SpaceX might show that Starship can go to orbit this year already. [09:19:22] it should be lighter anyway because no heat shield and no sea level engines [09:19:37] i think as soon as the booster is rested they could go into orbit [09:19:42] the problem is coming back [09:19:43] sigh [09:20:16] but the moon starship does not need that, so the hardest parts can be ignored [09:21:01] i just want the thing to be done [09:21:25] i want one put into orbit and sent to mars during the next window [09:21:37] that is possible [09:21:52] if it can land finally [09:21:55] what would be its cargo? [09:22:00] there is more than a year to go [09:22:18] maybe no cargo, just a test run? [09:22:27] it doesnt matter if it explodes or lands on mars, a loss anyway, so i would send it with dummy mass [09:22:39] then the window after that, send two of them [09:22:47] i am not sure if elon has opne more car for projects like this [09:23:04] or maybe a doge statue or something [09:23:24] they need to send one with a fuel refinery [09:23:40] If you can send one to Mars, why not send useful stuff? [09:23:48] because it will be a los probably [09:23:57] And packed in a way that it would survive even ah harsh landing [09:23:59] so why send valuable stuff that is then destroyed [09:24:16] spacex never tried to land on amrs [09:24:18] Power drills, welding equipment, clothing, all not very valuable [09:24:20] as we know it is way different [09:25:15] packed in a container like CASTOR and it should survive mostly. [09:25:50] what is castor [09:25:55] not very valuable, no special developed high-tech equipment. Just regular stuff [09:26:08] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_cask_storage [09:26:56] ok nice, it would maybe survive a crash landing. but how would people open it? [09:28:04] With a big wrench. [09:28:14] And another power drill they brought with them [09:28:24] or a cutting torch. [09:28:33] hehe big wrench hanging there tied to it with a steel chain. open in emergency [09:29:01] well, if you can get to it you will have some tools with you [09:29:12] so opening shouldn't be the problem [09:29:20] but werent the tools supposed to be inside? [09:30:28] You land succesfully on a second space craft and you bring the necessary wrench with you [09:30:41] there's more inside than just tools. And having redundancy is nothing bad [09:31:08] i can imagine the first starship carrying a deployable payload [09:31:20] deploy it as you approach the planet, let the cargo land itself as they do the rovers [09:31:25] then see if you can land the empty rocket [09:32:03] deployable payload. you dont need to build a door and crane and deploy mechanism if the deployment is crashing :) [09:32:25] and you can reuse the steel for base building too [09:32:33] its hard to have the payload survive a crash [09:32:49] and an empty rocket is easier to land, might result in more useful data [09:33:03] you can bring spare tires on the first launch. The surface on Mars is really bad for them... [09:33:06] and boots. :D [09:33:12] than a crash with incomplete data transfers and no data after landing [09:33:37] oh, nice idea. [09:33:48] Mat2ch, i think the main issue with the tires is their lightweight, not the surface or mars [09:33:56] Land the empty thing, then deorbit the cargo to land nearby and have a look how the landing wet. ;) [09:34:11] you can look from orbit [09:34:23] the starship or wreckage would be highly visible [09:34:32] closeups are so much better. [09:34:45] sampling the wreckage [09:34:53] yes, you obviously have to landa camera drone first to video the whole landing :) [09:37:53] btw, KSP 1.11.2: They still didn't fix the career problem that the pilots have full control over the craft?! [09:38:26] obviously [09:38:33] it was a really tiny fix [09:38:45] they didnt even bother to update the dlc versions [09:39:36] there's still a whole team working on KSP, isn't it? [09:39:40] Or just one single dev left? [09:39:54] cant be one person [09:40:05] programming graphics, testing, etc all require different skills [09:46:23] weeelllll [09:46:32] I've worked on projects where this all was my part... [09:47:17] programmer art and programmer ui. you dont want to see those [09:48:48] if the customers doesn't want to pay another person they have to take what I make. :D [09:55:11] our company works fast, cheaply and precisely. you can choose 2 [10:13:14] that's how it is. [10:31:25] oh no. ovelapping phoenix and raeper [10:36:52] Mat2ch: Honestly, that seems a low-prio bug, because you can just choose to not click the button [10:37:33] The only problem is your self-restraint :p [10:43:52] darsie: ah, now you are here. The new NASA space suits are made to be very flexible, so it should be possible to kneel down with them. [10:44:07] FLHerne: if the game offers it, I may use it. ;) [10:44:17] or rather they are not flexible, but have rotating joints [10:44:29] It should be an easy fix as well, if they are using a vcs. [10:44:32] And I hope they do [10:44:37] and I hope they know how to use it. [10:44:54] Althego: the suit is made to be flexible. ;) [10:45:27] i am still waiting for the mechanical counterpressure suits. more than 20 years and they are still not ready [10:46:06] cool [10:54:30] Counter pressure suits? [10:54:58] I would like to know why nobody uses unpressurized suits. [10:55:15] lol [10:55:18] because they are bad for you skin :) [10:55:33] you know all the streching as such [10:55:39] Multiple layers of fabric, some cooling/heating lines in it, just the helmet has pressure. [10:55:43] Because without counterpressure your lungs would explode. [10:55:56] The counter pressure could be done by the fabric. [10:55:58] you could just pressurize your head and lungs [10:56:39] Yeah, if you do that, the lung explodes. [10:56:45] the mechanical counterpressure works like this. air only for your head. everything else is a stretching fabric that exerts force on your skin like it was air pressure [10:57:07] so there is no force difference [10:57:09] yet it cant leak [10:57:12] relatively light [10:57:15] easy to move in [10:57:28] almost all the scifi shows use them. ;) [10:57:50] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_counterpressure_suit [10:58:05] They're tricky to make. Have to fit very well. [10:58:29] And you lose water as it evaporates. [11:23:59] why would you lose water? [11:36:47] sooo, I did a thing. I looked through the recently closed bug reports and I only saw TriggerAu and victorr being active there. [11:37:12] I saw RafaHdz in one report, but this could be a random user as well [11:37:26] and a year ago chris.fulton closing a lot of reports. [11:37:39] Could it really be that only TriggerAu is working on the game?! [11:39:58] ah, VictorR and Rafa are both QA. Or were? [11:40:24] Ah, Rafa write stuff. [11:40:29] yeah, I'm stalking the devs ;P [11:43:08] And when looking at the staff page of the forum... something must have happend last year around March. Since then many of the devs haven't posted anything in the forum. [11:43:35] TriggerAu and RoverDude are left. But RoverDude has a lot of mods to maintain [11:49:19] https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1383375176985759747 22. April next Crew Dragon launch! [13:06:31] kikkerikii [13:07:30] oh no, not only reaper but zombie too in around an hour. 3 streams are pushing my processing power [13:29:31] Althego: you need more streams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRYEEepIMFs [13:48:36] i like that she is flying in the same capsule as her husband did [13:59:31] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:02:25] zombanwa [14:02:39] guh [14:05:42] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:23:30] it seems the reaper can sing well live too. so here tracks are not completely edited [14:23:56] somehow louder than a screaming zombie [14:54:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio_' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:28:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:55:40] scott about the spacex selection [20:00:22] nice! [20:00:47] New Nick, Althego? [20:01:02] i still like the dynetics lander [20:01:07] no, this is the secondary nick [20:10:44] at least the phoneix stopped the stream so i am down to zero. i can sleep [22:37:25] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net