[00:53:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|ktns' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:26:51] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:37:10] I'll hope I'll get to that level soon Mat2ch, I'm stuck with stupid bases I can't land on Eve :) [07:38:43] also I've been here yesterday, that's the Payload Operations Control Centre of the spectrometer AMS on the ISS: https://i.imgur.com/hr3tvHz.jpg [07:39:03] sadly I just passed by and didn't have time to enter the building, I'll go back take some pictures [08:34:50] hatrix: well, it's not easier :) [08:35:03] Also landing your base... just bring enough retro-rockets to slow down at Eve ;) [08:48:57] it seems as if 1.9 has introduced a few bugs. Danny has fun with it :D [08:49:38] https://youtu.be/RLrflhr9mIw?t=125 I noticed that, too [08:49:44] and it's annoying if you want to dock [08:52:13] I'm really impressed by his flying skills with the arms attached [08:58:09] Oh, Danny has a few thousand hours in KSP... [08:58:25] master of disaster. [09:23:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v Hikaru' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:09:51] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:12:34] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:21:12] That missing space was driving me crazy [13:21:42] nan is doing? [13:21:51] nan is not doing ,allah is doing :) [13:22:08] :) [13:27:14] The chronicles of NaNia [13:38:18] Have we heard anything about the results from the Starlink stealth test? [13:41:57] nope [13:44:06] stealth test? [13:44:14] teh anti reflection coating thing? [14:05:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Mostly_Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:06:17] Althego, yeah, that. But I insist on calling it stealth technology because Elon Musk is going to invade from Mars in 50 years [14:08:49] Formally not that I've heard of. Informally, amateur astronomers couldn't see any difference between darksat and the rest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [14:09:04] Oh really? Interesting. [14:09:14] lol invasion [14:09:39] and he could disrupt half of the internet with simply turning off his satellite network [14:10:02] UmbralRaptop, but how could they know? I mean, if they're looking at it and can identify it as darker, one might assume there is some difference between them. [14:10:38] Althego, we all know Elon is a sci-fi fan. What were all the early sci-fi films about? I rest my case ;) [14:10:56] They *couldn't* identify it as darker, and were going by orbital elements or position in the satellite train [14:11:00] attack of the martians? [14:11:18] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xeX62mLcf8 [14:11:18] YouTube - Starlink Mission [14:11:21] 50 min [14:11:23] eh [14:11:33] the launch is happenning just before i get off the bus [14:11:35] UmbralRaptop, Sorry, I meant if they could identify which one the "darker" one is. But of course, they can count - I wasn't thinking straight. [14:12:02] Althego: I'm not sure if the launch is in 50 min or the stream... [14:12:06] Link is also in the description, just sayin' ;) [14:12:26] launch is around 16:05 europe [14:12:48] so in around 53 minutes [14:12:55] the stream starts a bit sooner [14:13:14] Stream is live in 52 minutes, launch in 53, according to nextrocket.space... [14:13:26] no, the live coounter is the launch time [14:13:34] they just start the stream before the live counter goes to zero [14:13:55] That's an odd way of doing things [14:13:55] around 10-15 minutes before [14:14:08] this is how they roll :) [14:14:17] or launch, whatever [14:14:19] I demand conformity! [14:15:05] can i use a bridged interface in an ec2 instance? [14:15:10] You're right, though. The video description says 15:05 [14:16:34] I didn't understand most of the words you just used [14:16:56] But, according to Stack overflow, I guess so? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32294909/how-to-setup-a-bridge-as-an-aws-ec2-instance [14:17:03] ec2 is some Amazon cloud thing [14:17:21] the problem is i get many google hits each doing something differently [14:17:47] an interface means "network interface", which is the software representation of something that makes thingies speak to another [14:18:13] and a bridge is putting two or more together so they get all the data combiend [14:18:18] a lot worse than this. i need this for lxcs running in an ec2 instance [14:18:23] *combined [14:19:23] and lxc is a container format, like docker, virtualbox, vmware, but not running a full kernel themself [14:19:40] Judge_Dedd: need more info? [14:19:47] lol [14:19:51] :D [14:19:54] I'm bored [14:19:58] need a project [14:20:39] Thanks for the info :) [14:21:04] and just as I said this a mail arrived letting me now that I'm considered for a project but the selection process is taking a bit longer [14:21:07] wow [14:21:20] Judge_Dedd: You're welcome [14:21:36] Althego: I'd say: why should a bridge not work on EC2? [14:22:13] And I say: Just try it. If it doesn't work, get your money back. :P [14:22:43] Any statistics people here? Is there any difference between "raster analysis" and "analysis raster"? [14:38:07] Guess not :) [14:49:48] 15 minutes [15:04:03] 2 minutes till launch [15:04:23] till live stream [15:04:47] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xeX62mLcf8 [15:04:47] YouTube - Starlink Mission [15:05:13] live in 49 min. [15:05:39] wrong timeline [15:06:51] oops missed it [15:12:39] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:15:50] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [15:15:50] Ooh landing fail [15:16:11] You will not come back from space today [15:16:24] was a very steap landing, so they probably didn't have enough fuel [15:16:54] I love the drops of water that hit the camera [15:17:02] and if you look at the launch it looks like their trajectory wasn't that optimal, the engines weren't firing straight most of the time [15:17:06] hrhr [15:17:35] where the booster at [15:17:55] and what was that thing floating away shortly before the Reentry Burn? [15:18:08] Timestamp? [15:18:28] hehe it sure landed somewhere [15:18:38] probabléy next to the ship [15:18:46] Judge_Dedd: hard to tell in a live stream [15:18:50] wait [15:18:54] Dang, youtube showed me wrong stream launch time instead of starting the stream. [15:18:59] the plumes were visible and some water droplets from th splash on the camera [15:19:02] Watching now. [15:19:07] yeah, there were some clouds next to the barge [15:19:16] T+00:05:054 [15:19:19] what was the booster's name? [15:19:21] T+00:05:54 [15:19:31] it landed right before i arrived to the house, obviously worst timing [15:19:33] Miss Chief :) [15:19:40] argh [15:19:48] next time call it loki. the god of mischief [15:19:54] Miss Chief is the name of the fairing catching ship [15:20:12] there are two [15:20:28] ah there it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B1056 [15:20:30] Ms Tree? [15:20:33] rip B1056 [15:20:34] Mat2ch, I think it's frost buildup [15:20:59] feel free to be the firsts to edit the page [15:21:02] Judge_Dedd: possible. But it looks like rubber... [15:22:22] T+9 looks like it landed just off to the right and maybe fell over [15:23:03] Judge_Dedd: it does this sometimes on purpose, when the computer finds something off [15:26:25] Must be a pun on mischief :). [15:41:19] Mat2ch, yeah, like the one that had hydraulic problems and landed just offshore some time ago [15:41:40] that was cool [15:41:42] was spinning [15:42:10] chanlog [15:42:26] Althego, I was watching that live - I was heartbroken when they cut the video feed D: [15:42:42] even elon admitted that was a wrong move [15:42:49] Yeah. [15:43:05] Actually, he said it wasn't on his command that they cut it [15:43:52] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zewyvQEqsS4 [15:43:52] YouTube - Elon Musk in Interstellar - parody mashup [15:47:40] Althego, LOL that was fabulously done [15:47:57] it was out a few days after the incident [15:49:55] I like it how the video creator asks people to subscribe and he only has this one single video in his entire feed [16:59:45] So, Starlink currently consists of well over 200 satellites, 180 discounting the first launch of "beta" hardware. How many do they need in order to begin offering service? [17:01:51] i heard numbers around 750 or so [17:02:26] 1584 in the first stage [17:02:31] isnt it 300 with the initial thing? [17:02:35] or was it only 240? [17:02:53] yhey want around what, 15000 such satellites? [17:03:00] they also communicate among themselves [17:03:12] so probably few hundred is not really cutting it for usable service [17:03:15] 11867 [17:04:28] it's a weird number, but I guess there's a reason for it [17:04:50] hehe [17:05:06] 42 [17:06:02] they have to realy keep pushing to get to 11867 [17:07:34] Maybe fewer sats are sufficient for lower bandwidth. [17:08:42] Elon will get mad if he causes Kessler syndrome and makes Mars colonization impossible. [17:09:12] yes probably it is operational with around 1000 [17:09:38] 1584 ;P [17:10:14] the also want to launch bigger batches with the starship [17:10:17] Which means 30 launches or so in total, when the v0.9s are deorbited [17:10:24] which is almost free since you get back the second stage too [17:10:50] hmm i may have dns problems [17:11:32] but then the Starship needs to make inclination changes [17:11:33] no, then wikipedia has some problems [17:11:43] wikipedia has some issues [17:11:46] but it's working again for me [17:12:38] Elon says interlink between satellites is not needed for service, because they can relay signals through ground stations [17:13:18] But if the usable load is really 150t then they could launch 500-600 sats per launch... [17:13:30] That would be quite something [17:14:28] *usable load to LEO [17:18:57] LOAD"*",8,1 [17:19:45] that's not a usable LOAD anymore [17:23:53] IKEA should get in on the flat-pack satellite business [17:23:59] hehe [17:26:48] whats the progress on starship right now? [17:27:15] in many pieces [17:27:21] finalizing process [17:27:39] but spacex is very good in creating new processes [17:28:38] true [17:49:44] Tank2333: we can't tell. since Mary is on vacation and Jack is not yet at the site to show us the progress ;) [17:51:46] there was some rumor that elon wants to send a starship to mars this window [17:55:56] With a tesla? [17:56:07] hehe [17:56:16] No, cybertruck :) [17:56:23] i doubt they can finish it even [17:56:34] not to mention about tests [17:57:19] I want Elon to make renewable methane. [17:57:28] From CO2 or biomatter. [17:57:29] how [17:57:54] Gotta develop ISRU, anyways. [17:59:03] Put up some solar panels, electrolyse some water ... [18:02:40] do it with bacteria :) [18:02:49] they have been doing it far longer :) [18:41:26] scott [18:41:29] about you know what [19:11:31] hmm, 2 days ago a bunch of videos were uploaded to the mars society youtube. now i have to watch them [19:43:54] Tylo is hard. [19:43:59] Harder than Eve [19:44:04] because everyone know that Eve is hard. [19:44:11] I fear I'm stranded on Tylo... [19:44:36] *everyone knows [19:44:53] If you're ever going to land at Tylo: Bring vectors, nothing else. [19:45:00] at least you can land relatively easily on eve. tylo is hard in both directions [19:45:04] You need the TWR... [19:45:30] Otherwise the cosine losses will destroy every calculation. [19:46:14] also KSP gets very very slow if you switch vessels often [19:46:32] scene change in general causes that [19:46:40] I don't know why [19:46:49] it seems to get unloaded and loaded again [19:46:51] after running ksp a whole day and switching to launch and revert to vab for desing changes [19:46:53] there is no reason to be that slow [19:47:03] why programmed this? ;P [19:47:06] every scene change happens with snail speed [19:47:28] and you dont notice it, because it happens gradually [19:47:33] until it is just endless wait [19:48:53] Wait... so each scene change gets longer and longer? [19:48:58] yes [19:49:06] I have honestly never noticed [19:49:07] happens after a long time [19:49:14] Is that a known issue? [19:49:21] so not flying but designing for 10-12 hours [19:49:38] launch, revert launch revert [19:49:50] That's most of my KSP game right there [19:51:01] But I don't do it got 10 hours straight. [19:51:21] 10 hours is not even that long [19:52:20] got = for [19:52:41] Curse my muscle memory [20:50:50] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|ktns' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:21:23] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [22:21:23] everything went fine! https://imgur.com/a/c80M1K3 [22:21:31] I did time warp too much though [22:23:06] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:42:58] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:01:19] dedd is not doing, allah is doing [23:02:29] Pls no [23:03:37] That which is not doing may eternal lie [23:21:52] hatrix: You launched with modules protuding like this? You lose points for bad style. [23:25:37] What is this even?