[00:42:36] umm.... [00:43:05] ok so canard type plane.. but instead of pointed cone for tail.. reversed, upside down airplane cockpit... [00:43:35] Probably KSP officially defining orbit as pe above atmo and surface; ap inside of the SOI [00:46:06] well if its not touching surface... [00:46:28] it also doesn't consider the path to be suborbital, till you get up past the 70km mark. Even if the path is already sub [00:46:44] ie.. more based on your position in the path [01:02:37] I made a flying thing... if it weren't for the air thing, probably couldn't tell which way it was going :P https://imgur.com/a/p3J8neI [01:02:38] https://i.imgur.com/VBNSnnl.jpg [01:07:32] Eddit|zuHause oh? <-- you seriously typed that in full? [01:07:48] you know you can press e? [01:09:35] eh... not on a proper irc client [02:19:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v phroa' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:43:18] https://youtu.be/rbaGe3pRMgA [12:43:19] YouTube - Blast of petard in the barrel [12:44:46] https://i.pinimg.com/originals/80/dc/a0/80dca05e69111f1ee8d838622ae06744.gif [14:35:11] Better than the guy who put a polish thingy in his trunk and blew off the back of his car [14:51:30] I climbed to 650m with the glider [14:51:38] but weather was crap so no thermals [14:51:45] and it started raining after I landed [14:58:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/535472873981345841/Sans_titre_3.jpg [14:58:21] what the power of tail wind can do [15:04:10] 103 km/h? [15:04:11] Woah [15:04:44] the glider was on full beans too [15:09:47] k so it took 6 nad a half minutes to descend 500 meters, what kind of L/D is that [15:13:31] so that is average sink of 1.28 meter per second if I didnt screw up the math [15:17:50] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/535477837969489921/efgdaegzhde.jpg [15:38:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:12:04] https://66.media.tumblr.com/e6b27d34d7f68c21cdef05ea24d187ad/tumblr_inline_pd0lh4BXuB1rytuoh_1280.png [16:12:25] cancellation? [16:12:35] Is there a joke, or is it just interesting? [16:12:40] The color does cancel [16:12:40] cancels what? [16:12:50] Blue and orange mix to grey [16:13:16] "Cancel". But you know what it means [16:15:18] https://66.media.tumblr.com/88113c9c73336220be3f83e2c5f154da/tumblr_pldglb2qqs1uwx719_540.jpg [16:15:34] hehe [16:16:36] hife the pain arnold turned out to be hungarian [16:16:47] a meme we gave to the world [16:45:55] https://youtu.be/M0z9HRC7hlU?t=128 [16:46:29] to be honest i would be more afraid of the rotors han being stuck on the mountain [16:47:10] although you will never find me skiing so it is unlikely anyway [16:49:26] Looks unrealistic to me. Not a bit of snow in the air [16:49:46] snow could be frozen [16:49:48] yes i was expecting snow blown around [16:50:13] it is quite common to see snow with an icy top layer [16:50:45] This year while skiing, I was on a lift (5 m above ground? 10 m?) and on a piste with wet snow and patches of ice. Helicopter landed pretty close to the lift to pick up a fallen person, perhaps 20 - 30 m away from where the lift was passing, and the cabin I sat in went right through a cloud of snow dust [16:51:06] There is unbelievably much snow in the air, no matter its quality [16:55:13] pls [16:55:22] o/ [16:55:26] \o [16:55:28] hehe [17:05:17] according to google nomal valley is in northern pakistan [17:08:43] Action: APlayer read "normal valley" and assumed a mountain range perpendicular to the surface [17:08:59] hehe [17:09:04] arent all? [17:09:10] that is why they are mountains [17:09:34] Mostly not perpendicular, though [17:10:22] or mostly harmless [17:17:11] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i60SXLaLI48 [17:17:11] YouTube - KERBOL 0 | 100% Stock Low Solar Artificial Gravity Station | KSP 1.6 [17:17:28] has a transporter erector [17:25:16] didnt expect counter rotation [17:26:35] lol went down 601 km from the sun surface [17:30:45] anyway that station is too epic for this reality, might cause overflow [18:32:23] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:45:52] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:19:39] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [19:19:39] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Prepare to make the jump to hyperearth! [19:19:56] not yet [19:20:18] japanese launch in a few hours [19:32:11] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:33:53] 'hyperearth'... a world whose population that consumes so much caffeine and sugar? [19:34:11] no, iut is a 4 dimensional spheroid [19:34:46] careful.. you might play into those hollow earth people [19:35:06] there are only a few of those [19:35:28] but today i watched a video about the sun simulator that is a fake sun :) [19:36:27] so... only a few hollow earthers, but tons of flat ones..? Kinda wonder how that happened [19:37:01] What we should really be asking is why either exists. [19:37:53] failure of the education system and lack of logical thinking in the human mind [19:38:05] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:39:18] Hey! https://www.ucsusa.org/nuclear-weapons/us-missile-defense/how-space-interceptors-work#.XEDZrc0kqUl [19:42:28] Althego: simulate the sun with an advanced device that may be sitting on your desk right now! [19:44:59] Ahem, politics [19:51:08] what, did china really announce plans for a moon bas? [19:51:10] e [19:51:21] hah moon bass, sound of silence [19:51:47] "Wroom", the meteorite said. "Wroom", the moon agreed. [19:56:51] Althego: I would not take any plans for a Lunar base very seriously at this moment in time. [19:57:32] Since the moment you referred to has already passed, I suppose Althego is good to go now [19:57:47] to quote one of my technicians (at that time) about the moving of the whole factory unit: i will believe it when we are already there. [19:58:01] hehe [19:58:03] when is now [19:58:07] spaceballs [19:59:09] The CNSA in particular doesn't have the LVs needed for such a plan, and there's a lot of R&D needed for mission specific hardware on top of that. [19:59:35] prepare to fast forward. fast forward [19:59:43] We need to perfect human cloning first before a moon base makes sense [19:59:48] Spoiler alert [19:59:58] Why? [20:00:01] with that we could create the endless war that torments the galaxy [20:00:09] ahh [20:00:11] nm :) [20:00:15] (total annihilation) [20:00:43] :) [20:00:49] I still have that game [20:00:52] Arm and core [20:01:20] in fact.. I booted up the old pc yesterday first time in long while. Other than small bios blip.. seems to be working rather good [20:01:25] Me too [20:01:45] i lost the better backup video card, because it was complaining about power [20:02:06] but the old pc still worked in the middle of december [20:02:22] as for chinese moon base, given the rift between them and much of the western world when it comes to sharing knowledge or tech development. I've a feeling they a long long ways to go [20:02:42] not really, because nobody knows how to do it [20:02:56] but pooling small bits of knowledhe does help [20:03:11] not to mention shared funding, like the iss [20:03:33] there's been talk about a moon base for decades. Trouble is, we keep finding out new complications about such a project as we go along developing it [20:03:37] JVFoxy: I don't think it's a problem of technology sharing because that would defeat much of the purpose of an indigenous Lunar effort. It's a problem of lacking sufficient infrastructure (heavy LVs) and probably political will (proposed manned Lunar missions have been downplayed by the PRC more often than not) [20:04:36] Will there be KSP version 2? [20:04:47] not soon [20:04:52] don't forget, a lot of people would rather see robotic stuff than to send a crewed mission. 'too risky, not worth it, ect' in their eyes [20:04:52] k [20:05:05] they went into deep sleep after 1.6 [20:05:11] so not a word on 1.7 [20:05:23] but i guess even for 1.7 they are going to continue the model upgrades [20:05:37] too risky [20:05:45] somehow people got into america [20:05:59] or to tiny islands in the middle of oceans [20:06:31] ya well.. everyone's got their own ideals.. personally, I'd love to see us go back, even if its just orbital. [20:07:32] looking back at the moon race.. it was risky, lack of time to learn more about it before going. And yet, if there wasn't pressure, who is to say we'd have even gone? [20:08:13] hi. I am having hassles trying to install KSP on my linux machine. Can anyone please help? [20:08:30] neil degrasse tyson was joking about how to get to mars: convince people high up that the chinese want to build a base there [20:08:39] they didn't even know about the mascons till after two missions sent out sub-satellites. [20:08:53] mascon? [20:09:06] mass concentrations [20:10:09] gravity on the moon isn't as consistent all around. Certain areas have more or less gravity due to different masses or concentrations. Only a few select orbital planes were found to be stable. [20:10:19] JVFoxy: There were a few mission specific instruments sent, including a probe that was later the subject of its own Apollo mission. [20:10:28] shaun: I don't think anyone reading the chat at the moment is qualified to help, but if you describe the issue, people meanwhile may notice your question [20:11:54] scolar_visari which probe was that? [20:12:25] shaun: it has been a while since i instaleld ksp on linux, but usually it was nothing more than just extracting it [20:12:36] shaun: what is the actual issue [20:12:42] the ip man movies are nice but for some reasont hey dont talk about him smoking opium all the time [20:12:43] ok. I have unpacked the zip file to the ksp directory, but when I try to run the script called dlc-mhe-[lang] it states that it cannot find the command [20:14:00] I am not sure who of the tech savvy people here use Linux, else I'd highlight some for you [20:14:04] this is the instructions in the readme.txt [20:14:36] but is the script actually there? does autocomplete it? [20:14:41] shaun do you have the 'making history' addon? [20:14:42] by tab? [20:14:56] no I do not [20:15:05] then why would you want to run a dlc script? [20:15:14] currently the making history expansion is the only dlc [20:15:41] hmmm so off to download the making history? [20:16:08] also [lang] is probably one of the languages [20:16:08] I'm going to guess that [lang] is refering to which language you have installed [20:16:20] for english one you might want to try dlc-mhe-en instead? [20:17:03] you don't need the making history.. unless you already bought it [20:17:10] then its just optional [20:17:14] actually i dont use it much [20:17:24] i even avoid the parts [20:17:51] shaun this thread talks about the same thing.. but it makes references to the DLC making history. I'm not sure if its relevant if you don't have it already. https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/178333-new-linux-user-need-help-with-add-on-making-history/ [20:18:35] there is no english lang. pack unless I want to change back to eng [20:19:05] JVfoxy: Apollo 12's recovery of part of the Surveyor 3 lander, which it also landed next to. [20:19:06] shaun using non-english then? [20:19:38] https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0310/surveyor3_ap12c_big.jpg [20:19:43] no, the english version [20:19:45] scolar_visari ah ya 12/Surveyor 3 meet up.. though I consider that more lander than probe. But thats just me. [20:20:35] Lander = probe. [20:20:49] Althego - I cannot see the required command in the directory at all.... [20:21:04] "Probe" can refer to any unmanned spacecraft. [20:21:06] scolar_visari well to me its a specific type of probe.. I was thinking some kinda orbital thing. [20:22:18] if there is no script then dont run it :) [20:22:28] I mean script, sorry [20:23:05] hmm... now got me wanting to see this readme file.. see what exactly it says [20:23:19] yes but i dont want to download the whole thing just for a readme [20:23:35] Heck, much of the point of missions to the Moon made prior to Apollo was to better prepare for Apollo. [20:23:37] and i need to sleep too [20:23:40] Linux Installer: [20:23:40] * Uncompress the file provided [20:23:40] * Place the contents of the file in your KSP installation directory [20:23:40] * Run the script called dlc-mhe-[lang].command [20:24:21] ..... did squad change their website? [20:24:29] oh lol seems so [20:24:45] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6Rsrng9gWY [20:24:45] YouTube - Ace Combat 7 | MiG-21 bis Aircraft Introduction Trailer | PS4 [20:24:45] oh.. so no longer using just the /en part? [20:25:35] now that i logged in, i can download 1.6.1 too [20:26:22] shaun I'm going to guess you don't have the making history dlc... dlc-mhe-[lang] means DownLoadableContent - Making History Enhancement - the language pack you have for the game [20:26:27] very modern design with the page. so hardly any content, huge white spaces [20:26:48] ok so thats in the store I guess? [20:26:59] yes the linux version does not contain that script [20:27:01] must be the dlc [20:27:17] Ace Combat intensifies. [20:27:19] oh btw finally notepad handles linux newlines :) [20:27:25] shaun you don't need the DLC in order to run the game. [20:27:26] Ok I will give it a whirl [20:27:43] shaun if you don't have it already, probably need to buy it as well. let me check something [20:27:56] The problem is I cannot get to it to install/run [20:28:13] KSP I mean [20:28:22] yes the making history has that [20:28:36] contains a script like dlc-mhe-en-us.sh [20:29:20] since it is a zip i am not sure executable flag is kept [20:29:32] so you might need to chmod it [20:30:00] I do'nt know linux, isn't there a way to just run the game without trying to envoke the DLC side? [20:30:03] its extracting [20:30:13] of coures there is [20:30:18] you dont need the dlc for the game [20:30:38] i think they messed up the readmes [20:30:40] The shell script looks to be set to be executable [20:30:45] because the same content is there for the dlc readme [20:30:55] And yeah, DLC is optional [20:31:03] normally you extract the zip and that is it [20:31:06] Shaun see if this helps any: https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalAcademy/comments/3fdmv3/full_guide_for_installing_ksp_on_linux_for_64bit/ [20:31:11] nope that did not work either [20:31:33] the linux version is ready to go, by running the ksp.whatever [20:31:46] latest version linux ksp only 64 bit right? [20:31:56] IO found that link before coming on here, that is of you run it in steam I think which I do not have [20:32:09] ok so not on steam [20:32:15] yes there is only 64bit [20:32:15] you know if you are 32 or 64 bit? [20:32:19] 64 [20:32:20] i dont see 32 bit [20:32:22] Hah. The Linux version of the DLC comes with another zip file that you found probably just unzip into your game data. [20:33:07] Yeah, the shell script does just that. [20:33:12] Action: UmbralRaptop amused [20:33:32] and the script just unzips the inner zip lol [20:33:40] erp.. [20:33:45] why did they do that [20:33:49] what is the point of that [20:33:55] ok well I tried.. like I said, I don't know anything about Linux.. just going by what I find online [20:34:11] think of it as a fancy dos :) [20:34:18] There should be, but I can't test it easily. [20:34:20] well fancy or not... [20:34:37] but any case... AFK, something's come up, sorry. [20:34:45] so anyway, that script is completely unnecessary [20:37:14] well the language pack did help me [20:37:59] there is no language pack :) [20:38:56] there are 2 dot files in the directory? [20:39:34] https://i.redd.it/oiw79ma60ra21.png [20:39:39] . and ..? [20:39:42] no [20:39:48] yes [20:39:51] . is here, .. is one up [20:40:29] so ./whatever is here. ../whatever is one level higher [20:40:59] funny they are just listed as a dot, no name etc with them [20:40:59] landing a landing pad on a mountain peak [20:41:32] i should have thought of that, but i didnt. what an opportunity missed [20:42:14] not really funny, literally every os today does that [20:42:38] ok, maybe templeos doesnt but with the death of its sole user, nobody uses it anymore [20:44:12] Ok I think I will need to contact support as I am not getting anywhere. I had KSP installed once ages ago w/o all this hassle [20:44:28] not really. all you have to do is extract the zip [20:44:50] done that twice, no go [20:47:46] & I should see if KSP runs under the Linux subsystem [20:55:47] ... [20:57:29] ok many thanks for your help. Have to go [20:58:24] ./ and ../ I remember those from old dos days. [20:59:56] except there it was with \ [21:02:04] Althego be thankful those plates don't have aerodynamics. [21:02:17] eh.. I don't remember if it was / or [21:02:19] \ [21:02:26] as i sad, i didnt do it [21:03:41] landed a crewed pod on one of the peaks too.. though the ground was level enough, things didn't tip over. [21:04:47] https://imgur.com/a/2VtFodu [21:04:54] put this up there for a moment.. have to get going soon [22:26:52] Where do I put https://github.com/StupidChris/RealChute/releases/download/v1.4.5/RealChute_v1.4.5.zip ? ckan fails to download it with SSL error. [22:27:10] So ckan thinks it has it cached. [22:27:23] ~/.local/share/CKAN/downloads [22:27:53] Or how do I name it? others are named like 5EE48475-RealHeat-v4.5.zip [22:32:30] found it https://github.com/KSP-CKAN/CKAN/issues/2400 [22:38:31] sha1 of the download URL [23:02:54] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:52:12] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:53:53] Hmm, I have 0.3 fps in the VAB with RO, RSS, RP1. [23:54:02] core2 quad 3 GHz, NVIDIA Corporation G94GL [Quadro FX 1800] (rev a1) [23:54:11] 8 GB RAM [23:54:18] KSP 1.3.1 [23:54:38] I could select a root part, but fail to pick up other parts from the menu. [23:54:49] I paid the entry cost. [23:55:18] How can I make this playable? Do I need a faster computer? [23:55:55] Do the 8192 maps slow it down? Seems ok in the KSC.