[04:01:05] ooh, aah. analog flight controls. that cheap-ish XBox controller clones proves to be useful [04:35:56] maybe better luck today with the launch [04:36:59] oh no the demo 2 mission is going to be at 22:33 local time, on a weekday [05:11:49] hah i have been waiting for this. now coreteks video. but 1 hour long! [10:35:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:30:54] Due to a tropical depression developing off the Southeast Coast of the U.S., now targeting Tuesday, May 19 at 3:10 a.m. EDT for the Starlink mission—SpaceX teams will continue monitoring launch and landing weather conditions [12:45:46] What does it mean when the burn time indicator, on the right of the nav ball, is red? [12:45:57] you dont have enough [12:46:26] but it was always bugged for me, that happens even when you do [12:46:51] the red part should be over the burn time what you currently have [12:47:17] It's completely red and I have a full fuel tank [12:47:38] Are you using a vacuum engine on the bottom of Eve? [12:48:18] Or an ion thruster? [12:48:29] I'm in space around Kerbin [12:48:59] My engine won't "engage" either [12:49:02] Is the engine online/staged? [12:49:11] yes [12:49:36] Try using it. [12:50:32] lol, I did. I get the sound of a spark plug not quite getting there [12:50:50] maybe no way forthe fuel to get to the engine? [12:50:54] or incorrect fuel type? [12:50:56] Are the fuel tanks online? [12:51:09] swivel engine with liguid fuel and oxidizer [12:51:30] Turn on the tanks. [12:51:50] Got a blocking separator or so between engine and tank? [12:51:56] Maybe a heat shield? [12:52:09] screenshot? [12:52:10] F1 [12:53:04] Why a swivel in vacuum? [12:53:15] sorry! neede to activate engine! [12:53:20] hehe [12:53:20] :) [12:54:41] "Why a swivel in vacuum?" 'cause I didn't know that's a bad idea. [12:55:15] 3.6 röntgen, not great, not terrible :) [12:55:16] Terrier and Ant are vacuum engines with higher Isp. [12:55:31] and lower mass [12:56:25] meanwhile the stream is on [12:56:43] url [12:56:54] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRf2MTAlQTo [12:56:54] YouTube - May 17 Live Broadcast: Atlas V USSF-7 [12:57:07] or you can have one with commentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIfyAd06lII [12:57:08] YouTube - Watch the Space Force launch a Top Secret Space Plane, the X-37B [13:01:21] I also use the Spark in vacuum for intermediate thrust. It's not a vacuum engine, but has excellent TWR. [13:01:35] yes, still a nice engine [13:01:50] Good to know, I'll keep it in mind [13:02:30] hehe flies sustainably [13:02:43] launches on an atlas from ula for a ton of money [13:03:40] 100% renewable fuel production :). [13:09:28] look at that they may go to space today [13:20:20] life is weird [13:20:53] chemicals collecting more chemicals to produce even more chemicals. it is weird [14:24:11] New sequel in darsie's boring series of minimalistic space stations: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot275.png http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot274.png [14:31:16] lol [14:31:19] spartan [14:31:37] you wanted space? you got space! up close and personal [14:32:02] there is a new word now. covidiot [14:34:13] That word is weeks old. ;) [14:41:28] apparently this pandemic is going to be with us all year long [14:41:37] maybe forever [14:44:52] yeah, and just like spanish flu, we will all need to injections [14:44:55] ...oh wait [14:45:10] it's such mania [14:47:04] i didn't get a vaccine shot the last time spanish flu spread, i won't get one now [14:47:10] it's silly [14:54:42] camelot, let's not go there, it's a silly place :) [15:04:26] what, again? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tce8mSUJOmk [15:04:26] YouTube - Starship SN4 Testing LIVE From Boca Chica [15:25:02] Althego: I guess they'll emtpy a whole tank this time... [15:25:39] The first static fire tests were just seconds [15:25:53] because they wanted to do them, but the tank hasn't be fully tested [15:26:08] now it is and they're going to do a full static fire test [15:26:36] But I wonder if they're going to remove the raptor engine again and inspect it or if they then go to a flight test [15:27:26] and I guess a raptor engine is expensive and they don't want to crash it. But on the other hand, it's SN20, so they have some as spare [15:27:42] and they will break some [15:46:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:28:55] my eve rover partially burnt up and crashed into an ocean :( [16:29:48] hehe [16:29:57] just as planned [17:15:53] hehe "kilometers are than a mile" [17:16:06] *weaker than [17:19:03] the mile better not get into a fight with a thousand meters [17:25:19] hehe everybody is watching that boca chica test. and none of them knows what is happening [17:25:37] what is the strongest distance? [17:25:46] who knows [17:26:07] just one of the guys said km is smaller than a mile with weaker, accidentally [17:26:38] so they are looking at the venting, oh it is venting. and they dont know why or what this means [17:29:08] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_length [17:29:23] lol i didnt know these [17:29:25] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_units_of_measurement [17:29:56] short neck [17:32:39] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_distance_ladder [17:36:52] I know this one because it's a place name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxgang [17:37:16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxgangs [17:40:10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muggeseggele [17:40:34] hehe [17:42:39] probably there is no other company that produces huge steel cylinders and cameras document all what they do from multiple angles [17:42:54] there are also drive by and drone videos too [17:44:47] bolhafasznyi [17:44:55] that is even shorter [17:50:24] hehe, i know that one though [17:50:56] also morality statute, etc [18:09:33] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:26:51] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:54:45] I get the message: cannot add manouvre node (control locked) How do I unlock this? [18:56:30] make sure not in time warp, make sure you have signal connection, are you on re-entry, ship heating up? [18:56:45] probe core: do you have battery power still? [19:02:31] Ah, electric charge! Thanks JVFoxy! [19:05:16] not enough battery? [19:07:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:12:10] didn't extent solar panels before warping [19:12:29] F5-F9 [19:16:00] believe you can set the probe to auto hibernate on warp... [19:17:55] I had this thought in the earlier versions, where could disable the power bank on the probe as a backup. If the battery drained because I forgot turn it towards the sun, if I could use the 'backup power'. Only, I wasn't sure without control if you could still toggle the disable on things. [19:19:26] I glanced at the "hibernate on warp", didn't think about it. [19:19:50] i dont get why it isn the default [19:20:01] why would you want batteries to drain in warp anyway? [19:21:36] ack. that is one of the custom patches I use. Kerbalism does away with that, anyway [19:22:13] huh. does anyone here use the Scatterer mod? Oceanic refraction looks weird for me but I seem to remember seeing it working before (on Linux, though). [19:23:08] and another luxury problem. I can finally capture smooth video in KSP (that Windows Gaming Bar has its uses) - now the data rate is a bit high for casual throwing it into IRC. https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/foo.mp4 [19:23:22] Althego lol.. could put a probe on KSC, if the craft isn't in focus, it doesn't drain anything [19:23:43] granted.. its on rails... I've seen a many craft dip down past the 70km orbit, only to come back up like nothing 's happened [19:24:20] Formular fetischist? was zum [19:24:34] nice looking water [19:25:12] Lol.. video buffering [19:25:14] yeah, Scatterer is nice. it does have odd quirks for me, though. the start menu clouds have odd colors. and the refracted parts of the vessel are missing [19:25:34] Packart sigh.. I'd like to do recordings, but ... tend to get nervous messing things up [19:25:39] yeah, if I ever start recording KSP videos, I probably should back to x1080 and a lower frame rate [19:26:14] stuck on laptop, it can't handle 60fps... noticing almost everything's 60 now.. 720/60... so means I gotta go down to 480 [19:26:14] 74 fps is very odd [19:27:04] it's 74.999 something fps, vlc says. grabbed with the windows gaming thingy, it probably just captures at the display rate [19:27:22] did you try OBS? [19:27:27] com on elon, give me that static fire [19:27:50] didnt know windows had a recording thingy [19:27:57] no. it's all new and shiny to me. I just figured that I'd use the windows internal video grabber. I can't uninstall that xbox app [19:28:17] I have OBS.. I also tried the software that came with my vid card but.. ugh. Uncompressed [19:28:25] hehe [19:28:34] nvidia has its capture thingie [19:28:43] and can even compress it for you [19:29:04] i am not sure about amd [19:29:08] mine is AMD Radeon 7790 [19:29:30] but regardless it looks like next machine is going to be all amd. i have gone full circle, just needed something like 15 years [19:29:43] i use the nvidea thingy when i stream Rimworld to my friends, but only 1060 or above works good [19:29:47] granted, probably could do with a better video card now but eh... at the time I was told cards were stupid expensive due to bit-mining [19:30:11] i thought that market crashed some time ago [19:30:16] it does have a sound mixer. good enough for the odd snippet I grab. I don't plan on posting anything on Youtube or Twitch :) [19:30:16] no static fire test today it seems :| [19:30:19] its gotten better now I think [19:30:19] ( https://community.windows.com/en-us/stories/capture-and-share-videos-with-game-bar ) [19:30:23] i think AMD cards also have something like it but i heard its not so great [19:30:38] also now there seems to be some competition, this year is going to be interesting [19:31:04] technically I could get something now but... I need to sort some life stuff out first [19:31:12] i dont think amd can catch up in the high end [19:31:29] Tank2333: they are great for their money. [19:32:24] and usually you don't need more gpu power than they provide. So, if you're not a hardcore gamer with too much money at hand, they're an option [19:32:29] anyway, so nobody here has scatterer refraction problems? I have to search the forum, I guess. Odd that it worked on Linux but not on Windows [19:32:39] true [19:33:32] lol.. I'll just use OBS for now.. sees to behave the best so far. Just wish I had a better net connection for streaming or something [19:33:43] i think i never owned an amd/radeon card... [19:34:09] I did, ages ago [19:34:27] JVFoxy how much upload do you have? [19:34:37] when their Linux drivers were meh [19:34:53] the previous pc, around 11 years old now, started with a radeon, and as it happens the old car is in it again [19:35:12] still works [19:35:18] old car? [19:35:25] Tank2333 roommate's connection. It seems to be scattered all over the place, gateway sometimes seems to just drop out of existence sometimes too [19:35:28] card [19:35:32] :) [19:35:34] granted.. wireless but eh.. [19:35:54] not good streaming conditions [19:36:17] I could go wired... just have to dig out the cable, run it down the hallway...:\ [19:36:24] laptop can't go wired though [19:36:33] usb dongle [19:37:27] Althego lol.. my older pc, I've had to re-solder a regulator chip back to the video board a few times. Turns out the thing gets stupid hot. It tried clipping a metal heatsink, no good. Turns out its airflow... at least so far. [19:38:20] seems no more testing this time, cars started to move [19:40:06] lol.. another older machine, I pretty much used all the slots on it. Those days, tv tuner card to watch TV through the PC... [19:40:06] "1. Camera [19:40:07] Imagine you’re playing Roblox and you want to show off your new high score." roblox highscore? who plays that game anymore [19:40:25] hehe i used to have a tv tuner card too [19:40:48] the one before that [19:41:20] i have iptv now i could watch with VLC tv, but i dont watch tv anymore :) [19:41:29] hehe same here [19:41:38] someone gave me another older tuner board, an ISA one? I never used it, was some weird setup it had [19:42:43] TV tuner card. even more ages ago... [19:43:02] Action: packbart sneakily pulled a cable between his room and the amplifier in the attic [19:43:10] my parents never suspected I had a TV ;) [19:43:17] hehe [19:43:18] the one I did use, sometimes I had to restart it to get it going for some weird reason. It would either just output sound or video, I dont' remember, unless if I restarted it a few times [19:45:10] Packbart I so wanted that tv tuner thing for Gamegear, but couldn't ever afford the $100+ they were asking.. [19:46:12] now-a-days, people just pull out their phones, watch stuff on there. No wonder no one is making little portable tv's any more [19:46:31] phones are little portable tvs [19:46:33] prtable tvs were never too commo [19:46:42] and computers [19:47:11] I vaguely recall that it was a "Hauppauge WinTV". not sure if ISA or PCI or how much it was [19:47:45] hehe hauppauga, a name i havent seen for a while [19:47:59] it's probably lurking in a box somewhere around here [19:47:59] that was the well known tv tuner maker [19:48:33] geez.. going to make me wanna look up what I had now [19:48:42] I know the one I did actually use was PCI [19:48:45] branded as WinTV, it worked remarkedly well under Linux with, uhh, some software I forgot [19:49:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:49:37] i recall the name WinTV, i think a friend had one because he didnt had a tv in his room [19:50:09] hehe wintv is too close for comfort to vivtv [19:50:10] yeah, my parents never would have allowed it, if they knew ;) [19:50:23] I think my game lost a ship! Can't find it in the tracking station [19:50:34] Press F [19:51:04] I remember the All-in-One-Wonder card... [19:51:28] Tank2333, in the tracking station? [19:51:54] Press F to pay respect - its a call of duty joke [19:52:12] Aah :) [19:52:52] or more like an internet meme at this point [19:53:05] ok bleh.. just realized I had my older case on the desk here. Getting into it would removing another case, then the cover, so not going to bother... [19:53:23] uh. do you have any types of ships disabled in the tracking station? or did you park it on a suborbital trajectory and forgot? it happens ;) [19:53:54] iirc KSP does write a message to the log when it deletes a vessel [19:54:23] something about pressure and being on-rails [19:54:58] deletes if its considered debris... under certain cases. Like if you launching and it goes beyond a certain distance. [19:55:31] Packbart ya I kind of hate when it goes on rails and comes back around even though it was way way in the atmos [19:56:07] Nothing disabled, I see other manned vessels anyway. Periapsis was about 80 km [19:56:36] you in tracking? [19:56:47] yes [19:57:05] does it still hid debris? run the mouse over the top of the screen, a pull down will show, see if anything's not highlighted [19:57:53] long as it was in orbit.. probably would have to rotate around the planet to see if anythings hiding from you [19:58:08] I did split it in 2 and worked with an unmanned probe. Wonder if uncoupling lowered periapsis [19:58:53] possibly only a few km normally [19:59:33] if it lacks probe.. it gets turned into debris.. although, if it has antenna (not sure if regular or relay), it still shows up as a sat.. [19:59:45] Maybe it crashed into the mun? [19:59:51] even that should just put it on a Schroedinger Orbit. it won't burn unless watched [19:59:59] mun.. ok sounds like you've got something more going on [20:00:22] apoapsis was between Mun and Minmus [20:00:49] yeah, it could have been caught by the Mun's SOI [20:00:56] too many objects but even then, wouldn't it just delete the oldest debris? [20:01:36] Dutchy45 what was the flyby height on the way out there before detaching do you know? [20:02:13] detached close to apoapsis [20:02:20] Kerbal Alarm Clock has an option to set SOI change alarms automatically. I should enable that, too [20:03:17] ok then I don't know... not enough info.. [20:03:26] KAC is the 1 mod I use. I'm gonna do the SOI change alarm [20:04:19] I should get a message though of catastrophic failure, right? [20:04:37] not for unwatched vessels on rails [20:04:53] ok [20:05:03] lol... crashing on a surface.. though wouldn't it already be too late? [20:05:47] ominous spontaneous science results from seismic sensors [20:06:02] "what just crashed into the Mun?!" [20:06:53] No missing Kerbals in the astronaut complex [20:07:46] wait... can you now use the sesmic sensor for planet impacts or.. that need a mod still? [20:07:53] I still think KSP logs crashed vessels on-rails either in the debug console or KSP.log. haven't checked, though [20:09:44] .... [20:11:22] renaming the unmanned probe can't have anything to do with it right? [20:15:09] I can't imagine how, unless you set its type to "debris" [20:16:01] I didn't even know you could change type [20:16:07] ah. "Warning: Vessel Untitled Space Craft crashed through terrain on Mun" [20:16:08] [Vessel Untitled Space Craft]: Vessel was destroyed [20:16:26] so at least you should find something about "Vessel was destroyed" in the log, if that happened [20:16:45] where's this log? [20:17:41] either in the debug-console (mod-F12) or in a file in the KSP directory. it's KSP.log under Linux [20:17:47] Action: packbart scoots over to the windows box again [20:18:15] and windows [20:18:38] ah, same. KSP.log :) [20:19:15] I used the Steam properties dialog to find the directory. "browse local files" [20:20:37] packbart still need a mod for sensing impacts with that seismic device? [20:20:47] the Breaking Ground DLC [20:22:26] nothing in the log [20:23:03] ... and you're sure, you didn't imagine the whole mission? scnr ;) [20:23:03] ah ok DLC [20:23:33] suppose I should try getting both DLC now I've funds... trouble is paying for it. VISA ya.. but ugh its broking at the moment [20:23:34] :) , well my probe is still going [20:25:05] KSP keeps backups of your savegame. maybe reload an older one [20:26:58] It's not that important. I'm learning the game. Wanted to know what happened/is happening [20:27:42] well it keeps 'a' backup... at least. [20:27:50] a little sour windows borked their file restore thing [20:28:02] Now I can't save my stranded Kerbal [20:29:11] JVFoxy: huh? I see about 5 backup files. I just copy and load them [20:29:33] is there an in-game restore? [20:31:37] right, I could add the KSP saves directory to that Windows "file history" thingie [20:31:39] oh.. the new backup folder [20:31:55] "new"? I never knew a time without it :) [20:32:12] I think you have to manually switch? I don't know. back when file restore on my machine used to work I'd use that after a day has passed. I never considered the backup folder [20:32:46] yeah, I just copy the backup file into the directory, then load it in KSP [20:32:57] I'm also pretty bad at using revert flight if I'm not exactly happy with things. [20:33:42] well, that's what it's for [20:34:18] reset the Matrix [20:35:02] its bad enough I do a lot of design testing so .. figured it was just stupid habit [20:35:35] keep telling myself I want to do a session recording of a mun mission but with tons of restrictions [20:36:40] that's why they made it leak memory. to discourage you from reverting too often ;) [20:37:03] hey. I'm just happy I don't have wings exploding from 5 miles out [20:37:39] granted... I've run into a few other problems in the past. Biggest was, game decided to control lock /everything/ I couldn't even move my view around [20:38:08] turns out a glitch where it missed resetting bit flags in the game that toggled what you could control [20:38:28] Steam says I bought KSP in 2018-11. that must have been version 1.4 or so [20:39:23] ah, I had to click that "clear input locks" thingy exactly once so far. can't remember the circumstances, probably a mod messing up [20:40:44] ya.. had do that too. Only I didn't have mods. It was when I was switching views.. don't recall from which view though. Just that it was to the outside vessel one [20:41:05] my dad used to get those Hauppauge cards [20:41:53] Action: JVFoxy been in KSP since 0.23.. though it got updated automatically to 0.24 one session. Since then, doesn't bother with launcher. [20:46:12] Action: JVFoxy realizes something. Checks a folder in some archives, "oh.. the Toshiba TV tuner is what I had" [20:56:58] BTW... that build report that the VAB/SPH has... it considers it a bad practice to have docking ports as separators? Something about weak connections, but we have auto strutting now... so.. still bad or? [20:57:49] Bring it up as I have boosters connected to a first stage that way... ok so I'm being a bit cheap not unlocking things. [21:05:03] JVFoxy: If I want/need a port I often also use it as decoupler. Not sure why the Engineer warn's about that. [21:07:05] Darsie I'm guessing back in the day, it considered the connection weaker than if you used a radial or inline decoupler just by itself. [21:11:25] granted, the couple of craft I made, you do end up with boosters having blunt ends as a result of how you need to connect to the ports... was more wondering if other players would frown on it. [21:11:50] Action: packbart often puts struts between payload fairing plate and docked craft, anyway [21:13:50] JVFoxy: I never build the stuff you build. [21:14:07] And you never build what I build. [21:14:20] We must be different. [21:14:59] Hmm, I wonder how I got my Duna glider to LKO. [21:17:05] everyone's different. ya I know [21:17:53] But yeah, I frown on your builds :). [21:17:59] Don't ever do that again :). [21:18:39] show me something you've done then... [21:18:42] The ISS wasn't sent to LEO fully assembled :). [21:18:49] and have I ever frowned on anything you've showed? [21:19:21] ofc not. What I build is always beautifully efficient and realistic. :) [21:19:56] its space... [21:20:10] borg cubes.... doesn't have to be elegant [21:20:15] :P [21:20:34] airplanes on the other hand... I've done some pretty sleek designs. [21:21:15] http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot275.png [21:23:56] pretty barebones. Watcha plan'n? [21:24:01] JVFoxy: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot67.png [21:24:07] That's a space station :). [21:24:12] contract work :) [21:27:17] My glider I used to fly to Kerbin's Easter eggs: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot173.png [21:28:25] forgot.. you stock or some mods? [21:28:51] A few mods. KER, EEX, dated quicksaves. [21:28:58] picoports [21:29:31] picoports, is that the one with specific orientation to dock or? [21:29:45] There are 4 different versions. [21:30:17] I remember Kott's review on it but it been ages [21:30:41] I know in module manager, there is a setting but I don't remember the specifics [21:30:42] My Class E fuel station in LEO: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot22.png [21:32:11] I was more curious if any additional parts or not. Seeing how much affects way we build things [21:32:23] going through my screenshots.. [21:32:28] One of my minimalistic space stations evolved a bit: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot51.png The original part is still on the left. [21:32:44] I just have the picoports extra. [21:33:47] heh.. I did a little 'RCS tug' as well, has a seat. Was more so I could move station parts around waaaay back long ago [21:34:27] That VTOL flew around Kerbin and then landed on the runway: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot36.png [21:34:35] ugh.. was long before we could tweak the RW's power. Normally I had to turn it off and use the probe core's. Otherwise.. ya... [21:36:27] Two tourists visiting the Minmus lab that made enough science so I could complete the tech tree: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot50.png [21:39:36] jk, you can build any way you like :). [21:40:28] just looking at pics, finding it sad I've ended up dropping so many career sessions whenever KSP got updated [21:41:44] some of the stuff that can be made in the game, it shows how much creativity is out there. its all cool [21:43:10] ok.. looking at more recent pics, ugh my memory must be slipping. Some craft here I forgot I built just a few weeks ago. Some monster thing with 16 nuke engines for example.. [21:44:15] 16.. what on earth for? [21:44:55] Love to see that 1.... [21:45:23] https://imgur.com/a/b1rJEgI [21:45:23] https://i.imgur.com/sQVQTfg.png [21:45:34] trying some things out... [21:46:20] ... I don't normally build big craft [21:46:28] :) [21:46:28] ..... why? [21:46:50] He's building a subway line in LKO :). [21:47:02] lol [21:47:53] originally I meant to set 12 nukes, but I couldn't position the center plate exactly right. So 'mirrored' instead. I was taking some inspiration from some RPG books I have. [21:48:39] Have you used it for anything? [21:50:00] And how did you get it into orbit? [21:50:26] The Valiant from Jovian Chronicles, a super strike carrier. Pic with the habitat pods swung out. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bc/61/86/bc6186101df7378b29cb6dff718c0097.jpg [21:51:29] I cheated it into orbit... I was more trying to get a feel for things, trying out different building.. [21:52:40] something that big, I'd probably get a mod that lets you build ships in orbit or other places than the KSC. [21:54:58] i built a ship 1/3rd that size and thought it was excessive [21:55:25] i have yet to launch it [21:57:50] the stuff I normally build don't even come close to that size.. [21:58:59] The fuel station was probably my biggest launch so far: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot256.png [22:02:31] that rule.. bigger something is, so many ten-fold in lifting power you'll need.. or something of the like, right? [22:04:32] any case... I don't recall my heaviest launch, probably no more than 200t in sandbox if that? [22:07:54] darsie...nice [22:18:56] :) [22:18:59] gn [22:55:12] I never used it, tbh. "Add Angled Docking Ability to Docking Ports" ( https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/139980-130-community-database-of-module-manager-patches-for-stock-ksp/ ) [22:55:24] oops, old input [22:56:02] forgot to press "enter"