[00:00:01] just got done reviewing some vhs tapes I saved from our local museum here... a bit of footage taken from 89 or so. [00:01:34] not sure why it was being tossed... was a few years ago when I helped them out. Now ... wondering what to do. I suppose I could drop by on their volunteer meeting on tuesday morning, drop a heads up [00:07:37] sorry.. aaaannnyywayyys.. [00:33:29] "Bring a newly discovered Class E asteroid into an orbit around Eeloo." :) [00:33:41] no, thanks :) [00:34:13] especially if you use realistic asteroid masses [00:34:27] Well, I can pick a low mass Class E asteroid. [00:34:34] (ie, ~3t/m^3 instead of 30kg/m^3) [00:34:38] >1000 t. [00:35:00] yeah [00:35:48] I pushed a class C to Kerbolar escape, though. [00:36:17] KSP uses the word 'solar'. [00:37:41] KSP also uses "Sun" [00:37:47] ugh keep forgetting about doing a probe to kerbol orbit as an early mission [00:38:29] thing is... takes so long to get out there, I suppose I could do multi mission runs, its just ... making sure I get back to it before things go too far [00:41:05] lol... find it sort of crazy, what takes us in real life to reach orbit, (7.8km/s) is nearly double what is needed simply to escape kerbol system [00:41:42] JCB: even crazier: Earth's surface is about half way to Mun orbit [00:43:10] JCB: That's why you have real engineers do it, not KSP eengineers. [00:47:58] I'm fully aware of scale diffs... I suspect they shrunk things down so you don't end up spending so much time just trying to get to orbit (2-3minutes ksp, vs 8-9 minutes real life) [00:49:15] there is a whole new set of challenges when it comes to launching in real life... not just slapping prebuilt set of parts together and launching them. Though.. does pose an interesting concept. Rather than having to design, test and custom build just about everything that's sent into space... [00:49:47] do believe they were trying to do something similar to a system of satillite bus systems [00:50:20] also.. redundant is redundant... or something.. ugh. hate having weird, can't stay awake sort of day [01:00:02] -ChanServ:#KSPOfficial- Foundership changed to Supernovy because Badie was dropped. [01:02:57] hmmmm [01:03:35] never seen badie ralk ever, so I guess thats why [01:04:31] must be [01:55:24] What is the mk3 stockalike expansion? [01:55:34] I have the mk2 but doesn't say anything about mk3 parts. [02:02:38] It's not updated. [02:19:02] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dozeman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:24:32] Alanonzander: she usually is much more active on the forum [02:24:40] I guess the irc was too nerdy for her [02:27:54] eh.... [02:29:11] nerdy you say... irc been around for a long while. I think its a good classic at this point [02:38:17] AIM: dead, ICQ: dead, Y! Messanger: Dead, MSN Messanger: Dead, Google XMPP/Jabber: : dead, IRC: Still going strong. [02:42:08] JCB: yeah but most people prefer slack now (ugh) [02:42:11] I hate slack [02:42:21] Or Discord [02:42:41] Dislike discord too [02:42:47] same [02:42:58] Action: ve2dmn is old, but that is beside the point [02:43:13] ... and what is slack? [02:44:33] sigh... I started on ICQ and IRC ... then AIM, got onto a few MU*s, Yahoo (only cuz Egroups got sucked up by yahoo and everyone from there got a IM), Google through gmail.. [02:45:04] I don't use Yahoo.. much. I think they did something and all contacts were swiped clean [02:45:16] I love slack for work things because of all the integrations they offer [02:45:18] Slack is like IRC, but its something companies like to use because you need to be whitelisted usually. [02:46:04] having git commits and errors pop into the appropriate channels is incredibly useful [02:46:06] If I'm not mistaken, the backend for slack was IRC until they needed to extent it and wrote it [02:46:11] some companies do NOT like slack due to its infinite retention [02:46:30] taniwha: valve? :P [02:46:33] (you can delete the content from your channel, but slack still keeps a copy) [02:46:37] oh yeah, I have plenty of issues with slack on the data retention front [02:46:38] Action: taniwha whistles [02:46:53] but yeah [02:46:57] taniwha: I wouldve thought that yall communicate entirely through hats [02:47:03] We use a clone of Slask at work [02:47:05] Like baseball players [02:47:13] tcp/hat :) [02:47:19] ve2dmn: it better be called Taught [02:47:28] Nope [02:47:40] I've sorta slipped a bit on the social media side.. never got into a lot of things. I still only sorta keep in touch with a few local friends.. sigh [02:47:50] TheKosmonaut: not taut? [02:47:58] Autocorrect... taut [02:48:14] Wrong again [02:48:24] Wrong again, Ordis [02:49:16] Taut is correct unless you wanna right in Middle English [02:49:52] no, taught is past tense of teach [02:50:03] taniwha: I mean Slack>Taut [02:50:15] But then I got autocorrected by my phone and it switched to Taught [02:50:29] your phone is illiterate [02:50:37] It seems to be [02:50:45] I keep giving the dictation a chance [02:50:53] It does well in Japanese but is terrible at English [02:51:03] doh [02:51:58] JCB: dough* [02:52:06] it's https://about.mattermost.com/ [02:52:15] ... doh! (homer simpson like) [02:52:16] doe [02:52:18] :) [02:52:28] Doh [02:53:14] alternately.. "blegh!" [02:54:29] lately been sensing a little ksp burnout at times...hmm.. [03:25:04] I wish ckan let you install old mods. [03:25:15] Will a 1.3.0 mod work on 1.3.1? [03:25:34] Blaank: ... sometimes. [03:25:39] 1.3.0 mods can be finicky in 1.3.1 [03:25:42] some don't work at all [03:25:44] some are crash-happy [03:25:46] some work just fine [03:25:48] It all depends [03:25:56] https://spacedock.info/mod/663/Mk3%20Stockalike%20Expansion [03:25:59] My advice would be "proceed with caution" [03:26:55] Well I'm not bothered if it blows up. [03:27:03] They updated the mk2 one. [03:27:12] Mhm [03:27:13] Haven't updated the mk3 one but I guess they are working on it? [03:28:20] Probably [03:41:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:42:07] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:42:33] Evening, Gentlemen. [03:43:18] o7 mr Supernovy [03:45:11] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:50:51] How are you gentlemen !! [03:51:39] building a Duna ship with Kerbalism [03:52:29] it's a biiiit more challenging than I had imagined, sending my fourth ship to fuel it and stock it with food now [03:52:42] You have no chance to survive make your time. [03:52:51] ha ha ha [03:53:23] what you say !! [03:53:27] apparently accurate translaion is " I would like to thank you for your cooperation. Treasure what remains of your lives." [03:53:56] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Zero_Wing [03:55:24] <3 engrish [03:58:41] by the way, i recommend taking a look at https://github.com/ChrisAdderley/StationPartsExpansionRedux [03:59:28] Nertea is remaking his station parts mod [03:59:43] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:59:57] pics? [04:00:18] pics or it didnt happen! [04:00:47] https://i.imgur.com/jaUCvKK.png [04:01:19] https://i.imgur.com/wdkCEQ7.png [04:02:03] nice looking minmun base [04:02:14] It's... different to last time. I like it [04:02:19] so much chocute mint ice cream [04:02:47] i'll post my deep space gateway clone in a sec [04:05:19] 8.3 km/s good enough for most stuff? [04:07:46] if you launch within a window, yep [04:07:56] and if you're not returning [04:08:21] and if you're not using OPM or similar [04:08:50] Crap [04:09:01] I mean from orbit. [04:09:07] And I don't plan to land ..... this thing .... anywhere [04:09:09] Oh. Yeah, that should be good. [04:09:19] Just utilize windows. [04:20:12] https://i.imgur.com/Qiq3m3a.jpg [04:20:25] https://i.imgur.com/nANUpRt.jpg [04:20:47] ve2dmn, Rolf [04:23:11] may or may not be based on the Deep Space Gateway *cough* [04:23:14] https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/lockheed-martin-nextstep-2-concept-artwork.jpg [04:30:00] 408k cost, paaaaain geting it into orbit. [04:30:14] Some dumb science station with a mk3 mod nuke. [04:31:19] Action: Blaank pushes 3 mk3 long fuel tanks with a single dawn [04:31:23] 2 [04:32:31] 557 m/s dV with 3 of the largest xenon tanks [04:33:00] TWR 0.00 (it rounded down) [04:33:11] ouch [04:33:22] how long will it take to ionize? [04:33:25] 9 hour burn time for 557 m/s [04:33:29] xD [04:33:38] get near future ion engines [04:33:44] and some huge solar arrays [04:33:45] Longest handbrake turn in history? [04:33:45] Ion is already OP [04:34:03] it's fairly balanced with the insane EC/s requirements [04:34:10] in Nerteas mod at least [04:34:19] How many RTGs per dawn? [04:35:02] lol [04:35:56] I'm not good at this game. I want to watch someone good at spaceplanes stream them screwing around with the Mk2 and Mk3 stockalike expansion [04:36:21] Doing nuclear thermal pigyback launches of air breathing SRB assisted scramjets to inertplanetary orbits. [04:36:46] 30km up and still gaining thrust while your nosecones explode in series. [04:45:22] And I can't get this darn thing into orbit. [04:46:04] 60 tons dry, I should not be having this much of a problem with it. [04:46:31] welp [04:46:52] I mean, this is why I mainly play with mechjeb, stations and "small" boosters [04:47:32] I personally prefer assembling things in space, adds a bit realism to it as well [04:48:50] Blaank: spaceplanes are the hardest thing in KSP [04:49:11] I also have to express my frustration with KSP 1.3.1 [04:49:14] and they really depend on what you like to do in the game, i think [04:49:21] This is a big dumb rocket [04:49:29] there's no 1776x1000 screen resolution option anymore [04:49:32] I don't like flying and landing planes, i like the space bit [04:49:42] Arynnia: can't you config it in? [04:49:47] I do not like spaceplanes. [04:49:54] mrcus: It resets to 1024x768 every other loadup [04:50:05] I have a 0.5 ton SSTO and that's all I've ever come up with that works well. [04:50:11] I mean 0.5 ton payload [04:50:52] 2 rapier, 2 shock cone intake, 2 mk2 bicouplers, 1 small payload bay, 1 mk2 probe core. [04:51:12] Can get something like 500kg to LKO, might manage one ton. [04:51:24] Takes off like a bat out of hell. [04:51:38] Flies really well, too. [04:52:11] It's the dumbest little thing that actually worked. [04:54:41] Now one super fun thing you can do with orbital shipyards is build a scramjet in orbit, then give it a little kick to deorbit it and while it's screaming through atmos at 2.6 km/s you turn on the engines and get another km/s out of it. [04:55:08] Action: Arynnia scrams Blaank's jet [05:21:21] -ChanServ:#KSPOfficial- Supernovy set flags +S on TheKosmonaut. [05:23:03] 3 tons to orbit, barely makes it back. [05:23:16] Really crappy for an SSTO but it's small and really easy to fly. [05:23:19] Sadly it's high tech. [05:23:53] Action: TheKosmonaut sees yet another piece of his master plan fall into place [05:27:09] hello I am looking into getting KSP for my son for christmas. I heard they are coming out with the an update for the xbox one. will it be the same as the desktop verso or is the desktop version still better? [05:27:23] Guest89425: hi there [05:27:28] hi [05:27:47] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [05:27:47] I don't think modding is possible on consoles. [05:27:57] Well, it depends on what you are looking for. You see, if you have a decently powerful computer then the PC version is the way to go [05:28:09] i don't really know what that means [05:28:15] Iwe have a mac [05:28:17] As you will also be able to add mods over time (or not) that can change (or enhance) your game. [05:28:26] Guest89425: ok, what Mac do you have? I have one too [05:28:30] Mods are modifications made by fans. [05:28:40] They can add parts or gameplay elements. [05:28:44] we have a mac mini [05:28:59] Guest89425: the recent one? [05:29:12] I think we got it in 2012 [05:29:18] I think [05:29:52] Thats what the about my mac button says--late 2012 [05:30:54] I might go for the Xbox version in that case. However I dont think the new version comes out until January [05:31:10] I wouldnt advise getting the current Console version of KSP (if its even for sale currently) [05:31:28] will he not be able to add these "Mods" [05:31:37] ever [05:31:40] Not if he plays the console version. [05:32:05] I'm guessing this is a pretty popular feature. [05:32:34] I don't want him to be dissappointed if he get the other version. [05:32:41] Some would credit mods for making KSP what it is today. As many of the talented people that have worked on KSP were and are modders [05:33:13] Guest89425: in the About this Mac screen, can you tell me the specs of your Mac mini [05:33:51] I'm just debating wether or not to get an xbox one--we have a 360-- [05:33:54] If you click the apple then about this Mac, itll open a window that should give your processor and graphics specifications [05:34:03] I did it says late 2012 [05:35:11] Intel HD Graphics 4000 1536 MB [05:35:54] Memory 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 [05:36:00] Guest89425: does it also say you memory [05:36:04] Oops yeah thats it [05:36:32] Guest89425: well, the XboxOne will play KSP better. [05:37:00] the new version will be a separate game [05:37:06] with save incompatibility [05:37:09] Processor 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 [05:37:10] on consoles [05:37:14] How old is your son, if you dont mind me asking? Modding requires a bit of fiddling around online with the PC and if theyre younger then theyll need parental supervision [05:37:24] Althego: yeah. It should come out in January [05:37:29] According to TakeTwo [05:37:30] 15 [05:37:32] CKAN is nearly foolproof. [05:37:38] Blaank: not on Mac [05:37:40] Oh [05:37:58] Guest89425: and you have a 360 currently? [05:38:04] yes [05:38:22] but thinking about buy an xbox 0ne s for christmas [05:38:46] My son is 15 yrold [05:38:58] Guest89425: if I were you, I would honestly think about getting an Xbox for your son, at the very least, he will have plenty of games to choose from. And Xbox live Gold is fun too. [05:39:24] If youre not averse to shooting games then Xbox has plenty that are very popular with high schoolers now. [05:40:04] are you saying our current computer is too slow. He's not a big gamer but he does like this [05:40:55] He has a portal game and wants this [05:40:58] Guest89425: your Mac would definitely run KSP [05:41:18] well. Lemme look at my old MacBook specs real quick [05:41:31] Hmm... yeah your mini would probably run it pretty well [05:43:20] Guest89425: youre actually within the recommended specs for KSP [05:44:29] I just keep going back and forthe with wether to get it xbox or the desk top. I don't know enough about games to decode which he would like better. i don't want to have to rebuy the game if it doesn't have wha the want on the x box one [05:45:04] how sure are they that they are going to release it on the xbox [05:46:36] You can ask which he'd prefer. I know a lot of people like gifts to be surprises. Sometimes it's better to not surprise them but get something they will like. [05:47:15] is it better to wait a couple of years to get the xbox version. will there ever be mods on xbox [05:47:32] Guest89425: there likely will not be. But I cant say with 100% certainty. [05:47:45] Anyway, having reviewed the specs, I think the Mac version would be fine [05:47:55] Its definitely easier to play on computer [05:48:19] is it less frustrating [05:48:55] The Mac version will be updated alongside the PC version. With Xbox you may not always get updates at the same time because theres a lot more hoops to jump through [05:49:10] if for nothing else, the ker mod is worth of not going with consoles [05:49:19] also one last thing is a specific broweser better to play on? [05:49:32] Guest89425: browser? [05:49:44] not a browser game [05:49:45] Oh. I would buy KSP from steam if I were you [05:49:57] chrome safari [05:50:18] Guest89425: KSP is a stand-alone game and not browser based [05:50:29] If you got Portal, you likely have Steam as well. [05:50:36] based on unity engine, that is why it runs on many thigns [05:50:42] so it doesn't matter where i uplod the steam [05:51:05] portal is on the x box 360 [05:51:07] So on Steam if you search Kerbal Space Program youll find it on that. [05:51:09] Ohhhh [05:51:23] Guest89425: ok in that case. I will give you some steps to follow [05:51:36] If you wanna do this now? Otherwise just copy the steps following [05:51:58] I think I can get on steam to get it thanks [05:52:25] You have been very helpful [05:52:40] is it self expalnitory [05:52:44] on steam [05:52:45] No problem! KSP is a wonderfully educational game [05:53:15] I have spent hours upon hours studying physics and the like relating to spaceflight, but KSP helped it *click* in a way that I could not conceptualize before [05:53:40] You're always welcome to this IRC channel for advice, or on the forums as well [05:53:44] he's really into space and rocket currently--he want the lego saturn apollo V too [05:54:07] Yeah, I learned orbital mechanics from KSP [05:54:11] i heard those are hard to get [05:54:12] I think it's safe to say ... we ALL want that lego set [05:54:21] Ruined a lot of games and movies cause I see everything they are doing wrong now. [05:54:25] I don't, but I've already got it :) [05:54:29] it was always wrong [05:54:32] Blaank, same lol [05:54:35] taniwha: That giant one? [05:54:39] TheKosmonaut: yeah [05:54:41] yes!! [05:54:42] Nice. [05:54:45] i always hated the aliens planet drop scene [05:54:59] LOL you guys are great!!! [05:55:02] Even the Expanse got a lot of stuff wrong. [05:55:16] Blaank: They got a lot of stuff right too, except for M A G I C engines [05:55:30] Those are purely a plot device and no other reason they exist. [05:55:39] It's a means to an end and the end is a good story. [05:55:43] Guest89425: Thanks! We hope that you and your son have a great christmas and fun time in KSP [05:55:58] Even my 2.5 year old daughter loves KSP... she mostly says "boom" [05:56:05] hehe [05:56:11] Thank you Merry Christmas to you too!! [05:58:22] SSTOs are infuriating. [05:58:56] So.. that was like the 1 guest account that stayed in channel for more than 30 seconds [05:59:07] hehe [05:59:24] I hope you all enjoyed that, he was probably the last one for the rest of 2017-2018 [05:59:26] people do become wiser with age :) [05:59:32] Action: Blaank cries in kerbal. [05:59:59] Each orbit around the sun, you've probably made hundreds more mistakes and you learn from them. [06:00:11] What not to do is very easy to pick up. Just remember what doesn't work. [06:01:01] I really want this dinky SSTO to work. [06:01:06] But the performance keeps getting worse. [06:01:45] I had a thing that can get 3 tons to LKO but it's super unstable on reentry and likes to flip out. If aero destruction were on, it would have been shredded. [06:06:43] taniwha: You have the Vive right? [06:06:57] yeah [06:07:00] Do the hand controls vibrate or have any sort of feedback? [06:07:06] vibrate [06:07:14] hehe stall warning? :) [06:07:57] taniwha: Neat.. I just found out people have made Fallout 4 and Skyrim VR compatible [06:08:17] Made me realize that it'd be strange to fire a gun in that game or swing a sword only to have no vibration [06:09:37] i have seen what they did with skyrim vr and im not impressed [06:10:49] Both of them are extremly buggy and broken. [06:10:58] You can steal stuff in cases by sticking your hand through the lid. [06:13:28] 9,420 for an expendable 3 ton to orbit [06:13:37] I'm pretty sure my SSTO costs more than that in fuel. [06:13:46] lol [06:13:51] fuel is relatively cheap [06:14:10] and if you land at the space center you recover the ship cost [06:18:07] This thing can barely get 3 tons up to LKO [06:18:15] Costs 116k [06:18:44] Like 2k in fuel [06:25:39] what tech level is this? [06:28:38] sandbox [06:29:27] I am unable to make good SSTOs [06:31:44] unstable on reentry.. one way to avoid that is to put the payload bay around the com [06:32:02] so whatever the mass it doesnt upset its positin too much [06:35:45] 0.84 TWR. That's nice. [06:36:08] I want to watch someone good at SSTOs playing withe the MK2 and MK3 stockalike expansions. [06:36:33] Blaank: have you seen my SSTO plane? [06:36:45] I've seen a few [06:36:53] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99pJQKyFi6k [06:36:53] YouTube - Tobineko to Orbit [06:38:12] It's just so absurdly easy to screw up an SSTO design. [06:40:11] best sstos have under 0.5 twr on takeoff [06:41:20] doesn't stock KSP add drag for every wing part? [06:41:34] same surface area and tons more drag if it's more pieces? [06:42:12] I spent 5 hours and got something that gets 3 tons to LKO and then blows up on reentry [06:42:53] vs slapping together a 7 part thing in one minute that does the same and hardly costs anything either. [06:43:25] kickback and throw a terrier and FL-T800 on it [06:45:11] rockets are lot easier than planes. expendable vehicles are lot easier than sstos [06:45:33] combine and find that an ssto spaceplane is hard to do een in stock ksp [06:46:00] Blaank, It used to be like this a few updates ago [06:50:23] I can't even get a plane to take off without crashing. [06:50:32] Landing gear flipping out and it rocks left and right. [06:50:41] rolls over and explodes. [06:55:03] with the new wheel system you should watch for wheel load and change damping and spring strengh [06:59:02] >rapier has no alternator [06:59:07] Well I'm dead [07:01:44] ded [07:01:52] overheated mk1 inline cockpit [07:19:53] the mk1 parts easily overheat if you dont slow down quickly [07:21:55] Blaank: here, i put this together, it has 3t payload, handles everything easily http://warpology.com/k/Easy%20SSTO.craft [07:23:18] it is not perfect of course, maybe it ha a bit much oxidizer [07:30:57] lol joolshine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omtg5Kwv6Oc [07:30:57] YouTube - Jeb's Joolshine Adventure... [07:46:26] amazing. [07:51:32] cupcake landers lost a lot of appeal without the cupcake landers (because of atmo and engine changes) [07:52:48] EXPN cupcake lander [07:53:31] cupcake landers? [07:53:32] Cupcake lander with one "Trogdor Arm" [07:55:21] the channel i linked from preciously [07:55:37] still makes cinematic videos. but it is just not the same [07:55:46] Ah, the channel people, saw that. [07:55:53] Cinematic, musical, but that's enough for me. [07:58:44] here, an older video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE2wruNgce4 [07:58:45] YouTube - Bulldog SSTO - Duna Express/K-Prize Entry [07:58:54] the ships were typically shaped like this [07:59:00] lot of clipping [08:09:54] i think i go watch sw [08:17:50] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:52:37] Last message repeated 3 time(s). [08:52:37] http://kep.cdn.indexvas.hu/1/0/1903/19036/190360/19036067_62cf4efbb9ea2126fa12fa0bb070f1e9_x.jpg [09:06:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:13:06] >went afk while in orbit for 5 hours [10:13:21] wait, no, I just thought I did [10:13:35] That was when I blew up last. I came back to a death screen and thought I died afk. [10:21:41] Is there any way to keep a mk1 cockpit from blowing up during reentry? [10:28:04] I've never had any difficulty [10:28:25] shock cone > mk 1 inline cockpit [10:28:27] It blows up [11:17:45] ded on landing. [11:18:05] made it down by maintianing 30 degree angle of attack and burning hard to deorbit [11:18:20] bounced off a rock and cartwheeled before rollout. [11:20:46] Blaank: everything is supereasy on reentry if you have a very low ballistic coefficient [11:21:07] Depends on the craft [11:21:13] Blaank: in case of mk1 cockpit, something like mk1 + small tank + small engine + laaaaarge wings [11:21:48] Yeah, i'm using the big strakes, mk1 cockpit, shock cone intake, rapier, 4 elevron 1. [11:22:08] I have a liquid fuel fuselage that is going unused but I fear removing it will destroy the weight balance. [11:22:14] And FL-T800 [11:36:08] bwoop [11:36:27] i think i just made the fastest possible droppervator in minecraft [11:49:42] a what [11:51:08] its a column of droppers that activate in sequence, transporting items up or down, like an elevator [11:51:27] hence droppervator [11:51:50] bbl [12:33:44] 3.137 km/s expended to orbit. 535 m/s gravity losses. 519 m/s drag losses. SSTO, 1km/s dV remaining. https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/900022878180917823/6E409F57CBF6FFE8905EC993E7FB148814D2EE21/ [12:33:52] nice [12:37:05] That's a pretty SSTO you have there :) [12:37:24] Nearly roasted myself coming in at 40km at 3km/s [12:37:34] Came a few % from popping the crew cabin [12:40:49] holding 45 degrees AoA when nearly empty tanks is very stable. [12:41:05] Low mass, good drag when put fat side on. [12:41:17] Stable throughout fuel drain. [12:42:05] I need to get kerbinside so I have more landing strips. It's going to crash on landing attempt. Stalls at about 100m/s [12:45:46] time to go get a job again [12:46:04] at the local hardware store, im so overqualified they can't say no [12:49:46] Flew into a hill [12:50:12] Terrain warning. Pull up. Pull up. *crater* [12:52:42] https://youtu.be/JCL0_TTsHzo?t=147 [12:52:42] YouTube - The awesome Canadair CL 215 T [12:53:08] they make it look easy [12:53:26] Fluburtur: have fun there [12:54:00] Blaank: that's why I hate KSP. We need stock hinges! [12:54:16] hinges would not have saved me. [12:54:26]