[00:06:14] <UmbralRaptop> Anyway, consider the X-20 or МиГ-105?
[00:18:04] <Flayer> i'm using 'shuttle' in the loosest terms possible
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[00:26:33] <Flayer> basically just something that can fly through the atmosphere with wings after re-entry rather than plummet down.
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[00:55:22] <UmbralRaptop> https://twitter.com/CollinGrossWx/status/1218315989118484483
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[05:23:15] <Althego> dont forget https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhrkdHshb3E
[05:23:31] <Althego> almost 1600 people watchingthe nothing, i let my browser join them so i dont forget
[07:23:57] <estorado> Good morning, yesterday I saw a kind of "auto struts". How can I enable this function?
[07:36:51] <estorado> and I dont understand the function of fl c-1000
[07:39:35] <Flayer> five hours, nice
[08:06:08] <Althego> estorado: enable advanced tweakables in the options
[08:07:21] <estorado> thank you
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[10:15:15] <Althego> haha live in 26 hours
[10:15:28] <Althego> i guess the 90% chance was not enough
[10:50:10] <Flayer> maybe someone crucial slept in late
[10:51:00] <Flayer> hm i put my space plane on top of a rocket but now the rocket tips shortly after launching
[10:56:43] <UmbralRaptor> large fins at the base? 
[11:01:30] <Flayer> i've been adding them lol
[11:04:59] <Althego> fairing
[11:05:15] <Althego> could help somewhat, but it has a drag too
[11:23:36] <Flayer> taking off at 66% seems to have done it
[11:24:36] <Flayer> oh, lost control at 30 km, probably cause i'm playing too casually
[11:25:34] <Althego> if you dont lose control at 15 km, you should be able to all the way up
[11:28:48] <Flayer> yeah it was on staging
[11:29:04] <Flayer> let me try again
[12:19:06] <Mat2ch> Althego: :(
[12:19:10] <Mat2ch> I was looking forward to this
[12:20:17] <Althego> no boom today, my love is gone away, the rocket stands forlorn a symbol of the dawn
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[16:22:12] <Althego> i just realized what the perfect name for the band playing the song with the above lyrics. kerman's hermits :)
[17:04:49] <Flayer> see, my shuttle is really just a tourist transport shuttle
[17:05:02] <Flayer> unfortunately i need a bigger rocket to reach the mun with it
[18:48:35] <Guest50619> The game isn't launching from steam
[18:51:19] <Althego> omg, the red message is working
[18:51:34] <Althego> but unfortunately i dont have steam, so i cant help you with that
[18:56:09] <UmbralRaptor> Can you launch KSP.exe directly? 
[18:56:55] <Guest50619> It gives me an error sign when I click launch from steam
[18:57:11] <Mat2ch> What kind of error?
[18:57:22] <Althego> perilous peril
[18:57:41] <Guest50619> More of a crash than an error
[18:58:36] <UmbralRaptor> Directly as in going to the folder and double clicking on the KSP executable. 
[18:58:40] <Mat2ch> KSP writes a log
[18:58:57] <Mat2ch> you could copy the last few lines to a paste website, like pastebin and show us
[18:58:58] <UmbralRaptor> If not, try verifying the integrity? 
[18:59:39] <UmbralRaptor> I know at one point my download got corrupted, and I got a noninformative error w/ mono 
[19:07:44] Action: UmbralRaptor wonders if guest was eaten by a kraken 
[19:10:04] <Althego> failing despite all the effort
[19:10:33] <Althego> shaka, when the walls fell
[19:12:10] <UmbralRaptor> gah
[20:20:08] <sandbox> for some reason I had a dream you were talking about old Top Gear episodes in here
[20:35:29] <kubi> why would anyone launch a ame from steam?
[20:35:41] <kubi> why would anyone have steam running at all?
[20:36:04] <kubi> it does not help, it is just a spyware
[20:36:05] <packbart> to keep the playing time counter ticking
[20:36:10] <kubi> lol
[20:39:47] <Tank2333_> i had friends who did this
[20:39:56] <Tank2333_> for running time in games
[20:46:20] <UmbralRaptor> yeah, also to advertise that you're playing x game 
[20:46:48] Action: X advertises this intrinsically
[20:47:51] <packbart> discord scans the process list for known games. I'm not sure if I like that feature
[20:48:46] <X> You are afraid that discord will.... report on your illegal processes?
[20:59:52] <UmbralRaptor> eg: using Firefox on the good bird website? 
[21:05:52] <packbart> X: it's an irrational fear ;)
[21:06:15] <packbart> I don't really like discord, anyway
[22:34:05] <nate> packbart: You could always just use the desktop version
[22:34:27] <nate> Then nobody will know when you're playing one of those asian dating games on steam :P
[22:37:37] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/668090047374819328/DSC_3845.JPG
[22:37:39] <Fluburtur> friend let me borrow his telescope
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[22:52:06] <packbart> nate: I used the Linux desktop version. I might set up a discord-IRC-gateway to use with irssi ;)
[23:16:23] <NGC3982> what is more efficient - adjusting my normal/anti-normal trajectory while very close to my target orbit, or when my current orbit is much smaller than the target orbit?
[23:22:10] <packbart> it's more efficient at lower orbital velocity, so the "larger" orbit should cost you less dV
[23:22:39] <packbart> or maybe not. depends on where your AN/DN nodes are
[23:24:31] <packbart> it might even be mor efficient to get into a very large orbit first (or at least push the AN or DN far out) to adjust the plane
[23:32:49] <darsie> low speed is true.
[23:32:59] <darsie> Ap of highly elliptic orbit.
[23:33:49] <darsie> It even pays to make the inclination worse there to get AN/DN closer and turn to 0 then.
[23:40:03] <NGC3982> ok
[23:40:50] <darsie> Or launch when (slightly before) you're in the desired orbital plane and try to get into that plane.
[23:42:06] <darsie> Instead of going to high speed orbit first and then adjust the plane.