[04:32:21] heyo [04:33:04] does it usually take 3 daysn, not in game but real days, to refill a small ore tank? [04:33:17] or is something going terribly wrong [04:35:00] lol [04:35:13] no, why would it take that long [04:43:48] idk [04:44:20] i've been drilling for an entire day and i've..actually lost fuel in the process [04:44:38] ah you mean isru [04:44:44] almost a year in-game [04:44:54] the place matters [04:45:01] no I don't not yet [04:45:20] I can't isru cos I haven't got any ore at all [04:46:05] i'm in eve highlands and scanners say ore 8.33 percent [04:46:10] 2 things influence this. the place on the planet and heat [04:46:52] thankfully I can scoot along eve's surface at 60m/s with this vehicle [04:47:17] so I can easily relocate but i'm running low on fueal [04:47:19] ah eve [04:47:29] there are places on eve that dont even have minable ore [04:47:31] down is easy, up, not so much [04:47:38] oh what [04:47:52] it says ore 8.33% [04:48:31] there is a small flat island close to the shore of one of the seas. once i landed there to see if i can go back to orbit from that low altitude. there was no ore there at all [04:49:03] then the other thing is heat [04:49:29] i am not sure the heat on eve is taken into account. but for mining and isru radiators are a must [04:49:36] do you have radiators? [04:49:45] the bigger the better [04:49:48] two large [04:50:02] that should be doing something [04:51:09] together with the 8.33% it should be ok [04:51:23] are the drills reaching the ground? it is not enough that they are touching [04:51:34] they have to go deep enough [04:52:42] yes, right through thye surface [04:53:01] I can adjust camera view and see them below the rendered ground [04:53:12] also scanning arms hate me' [04:53:41] did you start them in surface harvester mode? [04:55:32] yes [04:58:01] what does the drill action window say about its status? [04:58:06] harvesting? [05:02:54] harvesting then switching between harvest and inactivity [05:04:12] strange [05:05:21] that should stay in harvesting constantly [05:08:54] 0.007 a second [05:09:34] also do you have an engineer? [05:09:49] ugh now it's refusing to go activve [05:10:06] an engineer is piloting [05:11:00] must be some not too apparent issue then. these are he usual things we went through [05:15:05] insufficient power [05:15:11] the whole time [05:15:25] Hi [05:15:33] Action: minas_tirith Mod9000 [05:17:19] nice name [05:17:24] lol [05:17:25] uwu [05:17:36] ;3 [05:18:57] krb, meow : [05:18:59] ;3 [05:23:00] hehe didnt expect that [05:23:17] i pack two large solar panels for each large drill [05:23:25] にゃあ！ [05:23:35] raptop, hewwo [05:23:35] nyaa [05:23:37] uwu [05:23:48] Action: raptop should probably mess around more with my current campaign [05:24:20] Action: minas_tirith messes around with raptop [05:24:24] How are you [05:24:28] surviving [05:24:58] how is the research going? [05:25:03] probably not doing enough studying or research calcs/writing, but *gestures vaguely at the uncontained pandemic* [05:25:24] I have 10 panels [05:25:34] i forgot to bother with them [05:25:35] life is an uncontained pandemic. or contained, but by earth [05:25:59] unless [05:26:07] uwu [05:26:12] there's life on maaaaaaaarrrs, [05:26:17] supposedly the heat on eve decreases solar panel efficiency [05:26:24] there probably is [05:26:39] *crappy bowie reference intensifies* [05:26:41] some chemosynthesizing microbes many km underground [05:27:49] lol someone asked me over my shoulder what chemosynthesising meant: I said "smol bug et rock" [05:27:56] x3 [05:28:22] hehe [05:28:48] so [05:28:53] bad joke [05:29:05] Althego: IIRC, yeah, post-1.0 solar panels have a heat component [05:29:06] has anyone got a kersona [05:29:09] nyehehehe [05:29:34] ker-sona [05:29:59] i may be more amused with myself than I should be [05:30:13] minas_tirith mewo [05:30:20] krb, nuzzles [05:30:47] minas_tirith yo necky wecky? [05:30:50] x3 [05:31:03] Action: minas_tirith pounces on krb [05:31:32] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6DNdop6pD8&list=PLN64NKtKce4dbtGr0OQIv3OsDOywS9hjh&index=382 [05:32:30] felt relevant [05:32:56] boops minas_tirith [05:33:03] Action: minas_tirith licks krb [05:33:08] r e p e a t e d l y [05:33:10] always relevant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LjN3UclYzU [05:34:12] why is there a 10 hour remix? [05:34:20] because [05:34:22] (because internet I guess) [05:34:40] they're doing Dog's work out there [05:36:43] krb, happiness comes in many forms [05:38:07] minas_tirith so happiness comes in snoot form [05:38:13] in theory [05:38:22] Action: minas_tirith presses snout against krb [05:40:58] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PayvWj2piKg&bpctr=1605679604 [05:58:49] i can't figure out how to do golden letters [05:59:09] ? [05:59:28] like minas_tirith was [05:59:29] probably use the structural elements with the gold color scheme from making history [05:59:34] ah [05:59:43] in irc, there are no gold letters :) [05:59:50] yellow [05:59:53] krb, ists your client colors [06:00:01] Its not controlled by server [06:00:06] o [06:00:07] Just what colors your client chooses [06:00:09] it wasnt yellow for me [06:00:17] Yours is probably coloring the /me messages yellow [06:00:49] you're teal, i'm pink, when you rp you're in yellow [06:01:04] krb, type /me then a message [06:01:08] Must be the webchat client [06:01:36] Action: krb hi [06:01:40] ohh [06:01:57] 8,2test [06:02:08] well, still not yellow [06:02:28] the drill disappeared [06:02:33] off of the craft [06:02:36] lol [06:02:41] f3? [06:02:44] idk where go [06:03:00] ah [06:03:06] crashed into terrain [06:03:25] well duh it was in the terrain what's the dealio [06:04:14] Is this /me kraken? [06:04:27] fug no highlight [06:05:16] the actuall drill part is not colliding with the ground, the main body is [06:05:24] 5 hewwo [06:05:26] [06:05:43] so if the ship is shaking because of the drilling and the body is close to the ground, it can collide [06:05:48] heyo [06:05:54] hm [06:06:06] should be 5m above the ground [06:06:20] then it is random base kraken thing [06:06:53] things can reposition and explode upon changing to that location [06:09:13] a a a a [06:09:22] changing to what location [06:09:39] proper collision physics hard [06:09:41] the thing rests at 5m [06:10:25] when there is a scene change, for example from tracking station to something on a planetary surface. physics start up and probably the game also wants to put things on the ground [06:10:32] now I can't find a place to sit still now I've landed [06:10:43] you cant :) [06:10:50] Action: raptop wonders if the mimus flats are safer [06:10:58] i keep rolling [06:11:08] with brakes on [06:11:09] on landing legs? [06:11:26] no it's got landing geaar [06:11:42] how steep is the slop? [06:11:43] e [06:12:01] picture a plane/hourglass with fuel tanks in place of wings and a whole lot of wheels [06:12:24] and rockets on the back [06:12:32] for pushing it [06:12:43] like 20 degrees [06:12:54] that is quite steep for eve [06:13:19] sort of [06:13:22] you could try to rotate the plane so that the wheel direction is perpendicular to the slope [06:13:27] but probably doesnt help [06:15:00] it is already [06:15:11] 0.2m/s slide [06:15:24] but there isn't anywhere flat [06:15:39] the flat bits are too small for the whole roverhing [06:15:44] there must be a local minimum somewhere :) [06:15:44] roverthing [06:16:24] i'm impressed with this design though, heavy, but it can travel realy infinitely on duna [06:16:34] *nearly [06:17:12] @raptop minmus is poorly suited for this craft [06:17:29] ins tant bouncing and flipping [06:17:49] goes over a bump and wheee [06:17:55] hehe [06:17:59] buggered [06:18:07] x3 [06:18:09] so anyway doing wheels correctly is also hard [06:18:28] you can experiance sliding in ksp randomly on any surface [06:18:32] they're on evenly [06:18:52] no problems on a 35 degree hill on kerbin [06:19:01] no turning problems [06:19:40] can drift 180 degrees to stop quickly, from 80m/s [06:20:13] it's just hard keeping it on the ground, anywhere but eve [06:20:27] and dres is too hard [06:21:02] i keep landing in an enormous crack with no sunlight [06:21:07] xD [06:21:38] hehe [06:21:54] the only mildly interesting place there [06:22:05] if you assume that dres exists :) [06:22:36] the ksp version of the bielefeld conspiracy [06:24:33] Dres is inhabited by birds [06:24:45] blunderbirds? [06:25:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:25:51] Dres isn't real, birds aren't real [06:26:30] i havent heard that [06:27:07] ...q u e? [06:27:34] raptop isn't real [06:27:58] dres is working for the bourgeoisie [06:27:58] but complex :) [06:28:25] well, yes, I have imaginary components [06:28:39] don't we all [06:30:13] m odcall [06:30:21] why [06:30:46] "chanlog" is not doing [06:31:11] that, but why are there spaces in the m odcall [06:31:51] i could try to implement the chanlog, but i am not sure how fast it actually updates [06:31:55] eh [06:32:15] I dunno where the spaces came from [06:32:41] at least it doesnt react to the topic [06:32:57] That would be amusing [06:33:28] Eggdrop is pretty robust. It shouldn't even get into a loop with another bot [06:34:02] It's not infallible, but it's about as mature as software gets [06:34:20] not much development going on there [06:34:36] It was updated just a few months ago [06:35:12] How much development do you need on something that's been working mostly flawlessly since the '90s? [06:35:12] now the isru won't work [06:36:36] stable release 1.8.4 2018 [06:37:17] i dont consider it as update if there was no release [06:38:19] Late December though [06:38:20] there are some commits though, from few days ago [06:38:44] i've spent 20 mins for 4 units of fuel [06:38:49] is that typical [06:39:16] it never was fast but i dont know its exact speed [06:39:17] Seriously though, the first release was in 1993. I think they have ironed out most of the vulnerabilities since then [06:39:30] it can have heat issues too [06:39:45] krb, it depends on how much ore there is at the location you have the ISRU set up. [06:39:46] it hits 100k in 30s [06:40:22] Have you done the scan? [06:46:55] have you tried turning it off and on again? :) [06:47:57] Looks like that's what he's doing right now [06:52:43] Clearly lacks an SSD [06:52:51] webchat [06:53:00] Yeah I know. Just kidding [06:53:19] So I missed the crew mission in its entirety :( [06:53:31] cloning lxc 4 times. the host clearly lacks an ssd too [06:53:49] not really, they will be up there for half a year [06:55:03] Deddly: yeah, have to watch out for all those resources IRC consumes [06:55:20] mostly human reasoure :) [06:55:26] resource [07:05:19] I always loved IRC for its simplicity [07:27:12] http://online.anyflip.com/qnac/rskc/mobile/index.html [07:28:05] heh, you can drag the pages with the cursor, and they bend as real paper would [07:43:27] And yet you can't bend the hard cover. Nice touch [07:46:26] That's a really well put together report [08:18:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:57:03] .oO( what is going on here, while I'm sleeping? So much backlog! ) [09:01:33] not important [09:04:04] no road closures scheduled yet. That's important [09:04:08] means: No flight this week :/ [09:08:16] all your rovers belong to china uwu [09:11:54] This could be interpreted as political expression/discussion. But since this is a real possibility, I file it under "possible threats that need discussion". [09:11:56] :P [09:34:59] this week in virology podcast. calls to iss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qon6j-7PJz0 [11:07:43] https://i.redd.it/fb3vscazfmj41.jpg [11:52:57] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:56:32] Yay, someone downloaded my 'Second flight to Kerbin orbit' video :). [13:00:54] darsie: a torrent is an interesting way to distribut those videos, but most people would have to set up a client for it first. :D [13:01:10] Is there a torrent client for a webbrowser? [13:01:56] idk [13:02:31] Normal ppl would upload to youtube, but I don't want to stay away from google as much as possible. [13:02:47] 220 MB is a bit much. [13:03:00] in this day and age? not really [13:03:03] for some ppl [13:03:16] on a phone [13:03:35] it's probably not easy. Non-HTTP connections with Javascript in Browsers is tricky, bordering on impossible [13:04:16] websockets and stuff [13:04:40] but that is black magic i dont need to know yet [13:05:21] that still relies on an initial HTTP request. UDP DHT probably won't work, either [13:05:32] I had a meal at a supermarket restaurant and tried to IRC, but it didn't work. They just opened some essential ports. IRC? We don't open that. Hackers use it. [13:06:15] Hotels aren't better. The more expensive the hotel, the worse is their Internet for anything but browsing [13:06:45] hehe [13:06:58] if ssh works, then it solves every problem [13:09:18] All those other orbit Kerbin tutorial videos use needlessly complex or overengineered rockets. I just used 16 FL100 tanks and a swivel. [13:10:11] remember the song "go west" and do the exact opposite :) [13:10:19] :) [13:32:30] The internal name for the small Klaw is smallClaw! [13:33:00] I will always find something to complain :). [13:33:16] where is the problem? [13:33:27] Should be smallKlaw! [13:34:10] it could be "part546761" [13:35:03] at least you don't have to type "persistant" like them modders do [13:35:20] hehe [13:35:36] what is "persistant"? [13:35:38] used for [13:36:11] it's an attribute for a field in a mod that should be saved in the persistent.sfs [13:36:22] hehe [13:37:32] "isPersistant = true" [13:38:18] I blame modern IDEs. they'll happily complete and change typos throughout the whole source code [13:38:42] nano never does that [13:38:45] yes curse of autocomplete [13:38:50] Action: umaxtu looks at emacs [13:45:58] this is my friday of the year [13:46:21] how so? [13:46:33] next workdat: 4th of january [13:46:42] nice! [13:48:34] looks like some spacewalk started https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg [13:49:36] preparing for new module [13:49:42] kind of a late addition [13:50:31] or is this the axiom thing that will be its own station? [13:50:38] Nauka? [13:53:55] ah it seems so [13:54:04] didnt find it in the first article [13:58:43] watch its Proton launch vehicle fail [13:58:57] lol [14:02:52] my angle snap key us broken :( [14:02:57] EER [14:03:01] again [14:03:08] Can't remember how to fix it. [14:03:23] I click c and nothing happens. [14:03:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Mostly_Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:04:05] reset mode and snap keys worked :) [14:04:12] maybe you selected an other editor mode? 1-4 [14:04:39] what? [14:04:48] I used mirror mode [14:12:13] Action: darsie 's new rescue Klaw: https://i.ibb.co/zVMSSXQ/screenshot238.png [14:13:22] Refuels in LKO and at Minmus orbit. Docking port balanced by rotating the mirror chutes and shifting the port. [14:14:19] darsie: yeah, the keys sometimes just stop what working. I guess the reason for the prominent "reset" option is that nobody knows how to fix it :) [14:14:37] :) [14:15:35] Oh, forgot an antenna ... [14:16:10] Action: darsie does the checklist ... Staging, electric, comms, crew, engineer. [14:16:11] "stop what working" wot. I don't even know what I meant [14:18:05] if keys stop working [14:18:21] i usually go int the locks menu and just kill that lock [14:18:29] "There is nothing concerning about this vessle." :) [14:18:35] this tarted to happen in 1.10 and i think in 1.9 too [14:18:43] locks? [14:19:25] Althego: the problem seems to be with the Editor Extensions mod, not in stock [14:19:32] imgur now requires me to disable ad blocking. [14:20:20] there is a submenu i the cheat menu for input locks [14:20:35] sometimes something stops keys from working [14:20:39] i think i cant even click [14:21:01] and then i just go into that input locks menu there is something with a button [14:21:07] i click on the button [14:21:11] and everything works gain [14:21:32] Console/Input locks [14:21:44] yeah, that's seems to be another common problem. there's even a mod with a "clear locks" toolbar button now [14:22:24] can't remember having that problem myself, though [14:47:45] Action: darsie refuels his rescue craft in LKO: https://i.ibb.co/HFYJ8SZ/screenshot239.png [14:49:06] How often do you want to be able to refill there? [14:49:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:50:00] Till the next big bang :) [14:52:29] Ohh, the refill was automatic :). All tanks were full and the refinery was active, automatically refilling whenever something docked. [14:56:39] what is the mass conversion ratio of ore to fuel + oxidizer? [14:57:43] 1 [14:58:53] hmm [14:59:02] but it is denser, isnt it? [14:59:25] so basically it is valid solution to launch ore, then convert it in orbit [14:59:25] The fuel station Ap is aligned with Minmus AN. I don't think I did that intentionally, but it's great :). [14:59:31] Ore is denser. [14:59:38] mhm [15:00:05] And it's more flexible. Make LF/Ox/monoprop as needed. [15:00:37] I didn't launch ore, I think. I flew to get it from Minmus. [15:15:13] it seems space people never hurry [15:17:06] I use time warp :). [15:17:24] in reality it only works for events in the past [15:32:22] are they out yet? I wasn't watching for a while [15:32:32] no [15:32:40] that is why i said they never hurry [15:33:04] well, airlocks are large holes if handled in a hurry [15:33:05] because of some leak check they went down to vacuum, and then partially repressurized [15:33:34] supposedly this is the first usage of this module as an airlcock [15:33:39] so that is understandable [15:33:41] we really need those force fields [15:33:57] anly if you have an antimatter energy source :) [15:34:02] the Enterprise's shuttle bay never had to wait so long [15:35:48] Althego: it's probably also the last use of this airlock if I heard that correctly. they're going to unplug and deorbit it next month, then supposedly replace it with a new module [15:35:57] err, next year [15:36:21] isnt that the module on the other side? [15:38:31] so they exit the poisk [15:38:40] but they want to get rid of pirs [15:38:45] to get nauka [15:39:10] ah. I thought they were using Pirs today. makes sense though [15:39:44] pirs is towards the bottom, poisk is on the top [16:00:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v Hikaru' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:07:48] they are out [16:31:19] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:42:53] they conduct repair in orbit: the orbital mechanics :) [17:00:32] mission accomplished [18:04:18] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:04:47] *unintelligible* [19:43:54] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:32:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:34:56] somewhat better here [20:35:11] that split never ended [20:35:41] works [20:35:43] well, well, well [20:35:46] yeah [20:35:55] and I found out that the IRC channel isn't even linked on the website anymore [20:36:03] I wonder how people still find to us here [20:36:26] nothing really happened here based on the ogs [20:36:39] probably random link on forum [20:37:16] but Scotts tutorial videos are linked [20:37:29] We're still listed in the wiki [20:37:41] Even on the main page of it [20:37:45] But still... [20:40:49] !nela [20:40:51] Althego => Electron - "Return to Sender" - Fri Nov 20, 2020 01:44:00 UTC (L-1 days, 05:02:46) - https://rocketlaunch.live/launch/electron-16 for info/stream [20:41:02] what, it moved again [20:42:09] https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1329134676070387722 [20:52:43] paper towel jettison [20:53:08] what [20:53:37] cubesat deployment still looks hilariously like firing photon torpedoes [20:54:18] "just throw it towards the horizon [20:54:18] but photon torpedoes somehow emit light, mostly red [20:56:31] well, yes [20:57:27] Althego: or maybe blue - we never see it from the receiving side ;) [20:57:33] hehe [20:57:45] excess photons cooking off [20:57:48] i remember quantum torpedoes to be blue [20:58:04] Action: raptop wants to say more white than blue [20:58:53] in contrast to star wars, where you have proton torpedoes [20:59:02] i hate how similar they sound [21:00:30] If I ever get a chance for a throwaway weapon name in a space opera setting, I'm making phonon torpedoes [21:00:41] hehe [21:01:25] do they launch in stereo? [21:01:50] (optical or acoustic phonons? Yes) [21:02:05]