[02:53:51] Boy, CKAN is convenient... when it works [02:53:55] too bad it's buggy as heck [02:55:31] i find as long as i'm not trying to play the week of a new update, it works pretty fine [02:55:52] my mod sets are so much simpler than what i see you guys using though [02:56:16] yeah I have.... a lotta mods [02:56:28] 100+ [02:56:44] hence why CKAN is convenient for managing them all [04:42:04] https://imgur.com/p0YkYsw [04:48:27] If I can somehow make an SSTO in this form factor it will be much easier to have reattachable wing surfaces [04:48:43] not with this engine [04:49:30] if it was 3-4 times longer and had a rapier [04:50:33] well yeah [04:51:07] but the point is, only one docking to attach the wing, instead of one on each side [04:52:20] the wing is unnecessary mass, dont need it :) [04:52:57] don't need it while maneuvering outside kerbin's atmosphere [05:22:45] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/251822595723362306/480605052193472514/image0.jpg In case you didn't know fake speakers were a thing. [05:24:33] lol [05:27:00] i knew [05:27:13] i have seen fake tweeters before [05:27:40] ingenious chinese invention isnt it? [05:28:26] You think they lose future sales after people figure it out? [05:28:37] no [05:28:38] and for my next trick, I will dock a space craft I forgot RCS on, to a space station with no control at all! [05:31:40] use a kerbal and push it in place [05:34:35] I have valentina already suited up and watching the docking [05:38:28] actuall, due to some incredible flying (luck), the ship came in perfectly straight and docked! [05:39:04] https://imgur.com/xJTqsjg [05:46:04] Given that the docking port is off centre and the space station was uncontrollable, this was incredibly lucky flying [05:47:32] TIL the space station contract requirement to have an antenna and generate power, does not imply that there is an actual control pod on it [06:41:24] my station contracts usually also contain a clause "must have a cupola" [06:42:33] however, i'm mostly annoyed at the requirement "must be a new craft", so you can't rely on support from existing craft [06:42:39] or extend an existing station [08:14:35] Eddi|zuHause: you're German right? [08:15:18] oh no! Is that contagious? [08:15:30] Hypothetically, if a British citizen was visiting Germany and had a 24in imac with them, perhaps being given to a friend that currently lives in Germany, does this hypothetical person need to pay duty on it? [08:15:59] oh wow, you're asking the hard questions... [08:16:11] Crazy right? [08:16:34] first... as long as nobody knows, nobody will care. ;) [08:17:09] My mom is visiting a family friend in Germany. That friend's family said "HEY can you bring something to them for us?" And my mom said yeah, expecting it to be some small junk. [08:17:16] second, did you think about the different power things? Like Schuko vs. the UK plug? [08:17:21] Then they show up at our house with an imac [08:17:33] A new one? [08:17:36] Mat2ch: that's not her problem. Lol. We aren't the ones that bought it. [08:17:47] 2017 I suppose. I didn't see it in person. [08:17:56] afaik that could be considered a gift, so... [08:18:25] I mean, she doesn't care. If they charge her then she will tell the people she's visiting to pay up. Haha [08:18:45] Who should charge her? [08:19:26] I dunno. I just remember a dummy friend of mine bought an iPhone and kept the new box with them when they went back to Germany. [08:19:34] They had to pay a % [08:20:06] There are only few custom checks between the UK and the rest of the EU. And if you don't fly there zero to no checks at all [08:20:17] She's flying from Asia [08:20:19] well, with Brexit this will change a lot. [08:20:27] That's different. :) [08:20:28] She's a UK citizen, but lives in Singapore. [08:20:31] UK is still in the EU [08:21:16] When your device is too new they may ask. Like buying a phone in asia before it's even on the market here [08:22:55] let me find the taric number, then I can tell you more [08:23:03] (between UK and DE) [08:27:33] TheKosmonaut: ah, finally. [08:27:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469779331564961804/480654032017424385/20180819102009_1.jpg [08:27:52] TheKosmonaut: We've got something called "Free movement of goods" in the European Union. [08:28:26] We can buy and sell stuff to where we want and don't pay any customs [08:28:34] Huh [08:28:36] I knew that, but forgot... [08:28:55] A few weeks ago I ordered something in Austria [08:29:11] was cheaper than buying it in Germany. ;P [08:29:46] I can buy stuff off Flub2 and he can buy my stuff. No customs inbetween [08:30:39] And that's the funny part with Brexit. There's Northern Ireland and many people from there work in Ireland. They drive over the border every day. [08:31:20] With Brexit they need customs at the border... [08:31:55] TheKosmonaut: you seem confused? [08:32:16] Austrians, making Germany look bad since [08:32:27] No I was trying to find the first Austrian emperor of the HRE [08:32:31] But got lost in wiki [08:33:08] HRE? [08:33:59] Well, there are many things that are more expensive in Austria, so they drive over the border to Germany oder Czech Republic ;) [08:34:42] Holy Roman Empire [08:36:45] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/480656275278135297/DSC_9501.JPG [08:37:55] oh, don't get me started. I tried Crusader Kings 2 yesterday. Not my game. Also I hate kings and queens and all the aristocratic stuff [08:38:10] Eu4>CKII [08:38:27] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/a7FakY1P/Iroquois+Imperial+Influence.png [08:38:36] Behold! The mighty Iroquois [08:38:56] Can you rule the whole world in EU4? Otherwise it's boring ;) [08:40:13] CK2 as annoying. You have your small land there and that's it and you try to manage it somehow and then you die and play as your child and suddenly all the old pacts are gone... [08:40:34] The only way to do politics was by marriage [08:40:46] and that's lame somehow. [08:46:11] Mat2ch: I grew myself up from a tiny single irish duchy into the king of ireland and gwynedd (wales) in 3 generations. then my character died and due to irreconcilable succession law my lands were split up between my two children, meaning I lost wales [09:30:12] Rokker: yeah, that was annoying, too. With every new character you play to have to check the sucession rules [12:12:08] i tried getting into CK2, but i don't think i really understood how to play it [12:30:32] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v bathtub_shark' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:46:04] Eddi|zuHause: Paradox makes good games, but they love to make complicated interfaces [12:57:16] and even more complicated DLC schemes [12:57:22] i know that, i spent hundreds and thousands of hours trying to figure out EU4 halfway decently [12:57:30] but CK2 just didn't click the same way [12:57:40] I play EU4 decently as well [12:57:49] CK2 is like a whole nother level [12:58:32] The Leon "learning scenario" does explain the basics, but it's probably not a good setting to keep playing after the tutorial events are finished. [13:00:47] yeah, i stopped that right after the tutorial. i think i tried 3 serous games, once as a HRE minor, one as some ethiopian remote thing, and one as an eastern tribe [13:01:03] The various emirates can easily defend each other if you declare war with a religious cb, while Christian allies are scarce. [13:01:24] Why not go with an Ireland (aka "newbie island") game? [13:02:37] the HRE game was annoying, because the emperor kept taking away my lands, and i didn't know enough politics to stop that [13:03:14] the ethiopian game went nowhere because i got a split in the church that made everyone rebel [13:03:46] and the eastern game, i got repeatedly overrun by others, and ended up joining the next biggest empire [13:04:53] somehow everyone besides me manages offensive alliances, and i can't even get a defensive pact [13:11:10] That's why Ireland is a nice starting area. Multiple small independant petty kings and chiefs; the Scots and English are managable and have problems of their own. [14:55:55] https://78.media.tumblr.com/e41f2f028fa135a85e0fd69ba8d0d9ed/tumblr_inline_pd9qydTPZb1r8j632_540.jpg [15:01:24] magic gate? [15:08:51] To wonderland [15:09:00] look closer [15:11:04] that's no mirror [15:11:13] it cant be, because the road is not visible [15:11:18] yep [15:16:25] I have a hard aerodynamics question for you [15:17:01] air is soft :) [15:17:08] it is so soft it is gaseous :) [15:17:16] I have a 10" triblade prop, there is a 70mm spinner on top of that so I about 2cm of each blade is hideen behind the spinner [15:17:44] how much potential thrust do I lose and how large would I need to make the prop to have the same result as a 10" prop without spinner [15:17:56] make measurements, easier [15:19:16] yeah but I guess the speed at the tip of the prop will mean for a same rpm, another centimeter of propeller will produce much more torque [15:22:25] for example, if i take a propeller of a certain size and offset the blades from the center they will have the same area but at the same rpm they will be moving faster [15:58:55] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/336633245724573707/480767331061202944/tumblr_pd48836csB1w4teq4o1_500.png [16:14:13] lol [16:41:00] Olympic1: well the big problem isnt just the complicated interfaces, it's the bad tutorials [17:38:26] is that guy pumping air into the tyre, by hand? [17:39:52] probably joke [17:40:03] i mean even the original picture [17:40:27] well, i hope so :p [19:35:18] https://imgur.com/4wRkniN [22:41:56] https://imgur.com/PAnPrs8 [23:43:09] what is the maximum speed at which a kerbal can hang onto a ladder [23:44:26] er, while inside kerbin's atmoshpere I mean