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[00:52:01] <Neal> my computer JUST got the windows october update
[00:52:05] <Neal> took forever to install
[00:53:34] <UmbralRaptor> uh
[00:57:11] <darsie> Did you make that update, or was it forced on you?
[01:00:49] <Neal> just clicked "update and shutdown"
[01:09:24] <suclearnub> microsoft can pry win 7 from my cold dead hands.
[01:09:31] <suclearnub> (this is not an invitation.)
[01:09:54] <darsie> They don't charge for it, then, right?
[01:16:39] <Neal> now they do
[01:17:19] <Neal> the only time you could get win10 for free was if you upgraded from an older windows version, within a year from the win10 release date
[01:19:26] <KrazyKrl> If it's free, you're the product being sold.
[01:20:00] <KrazyKrl> And i keep hearing a bunch of dumb stuff about win10 to even consider getting it.
[01:21:13] <KrazyKrl> things like "windows randomly disabled my mic/headset/misc setting after an update" or the fact that you need to do a bunch of hacky stuff like regedit to disable user data collection (which may get reenabled after updates)
[01:29:12] <Neal> KrazyKrl, linux??
[01:30:11] <Neal> gnu is free as in freedom
[01:38:58] Action: UmbralRaptor pokes qš with a stick. https://photos.app.goo.gl/aYUkw7ucJQDKvVp6A
[01:39:28] <UmbralRaptor> KrazyKrl: if they can find a way to monetize you, you're the product. 
[01:41:36] <Neal> UmbralRaptor, wowza, wrong text encoding?
[01:43:25] <UmbralRaptor> Neal: yeah, SHIFT-JIS I think. 
[01:48:03] <darsie> Neal: So M$ can upgrade Win 7 to 10 without user consent and charge them for it?
[01:48:10] <Neal> no?
[01:48:44] <darsie> Ohh, <suclearnub> just sayd "microsoft can pry win 7 from my cold dead hands." Didn't mention upgrade.
[03:12:12] <Ezko> darsie: < and > aren't part of the nick and you should try typing for example "sucl" and pressing tab
[03:12:39] <darsie> ik
[03:12:54] <darsie> Also I didn't mean to ping suclearnub.
[03:12:57] <darsie> gn
[03:30:21] <Kalpa> UmbralRaptor: Looks like a problem with the pist00.wav 
[04:24:04] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think that was the point he was trying to make :p
[04:59:52] <UmbralRaptor> So, they don't run on my machine, and even if they did&
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[05:10:32] <Althego> we can look forward to launch wednesday now
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[08:18:10] <Eddi|zuHause> what happens to this channel when there are a dozen launches each hour?
[08:45:17] <Althego> then we are going to be on them
[08:46:50] <Fluburtur> baby giraffes are weird
[08:52:39] <Gasher[work]> then it should be a bot announcer of launches
[08:53:04] <Althego> no, it would be pointless to watch them. just as we dont watch airplanes
[09:00:20] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/e26e4c9823737d4bcc2ba0421496375d/tumblr_pjspxigbCx1sm2zm6o1_540.jpg
[09:00:41] <Althego> lol i dont even know it now
[09:02:33] <Fluburtur> snake in my boot and free real estate
[09:10:23] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/34e96de625a188cb2a6d19813eb2da6f/tumblr_inline_pjszfeYCGS1rjpvtz_540.png
[09:10:41] <Althego> vsauce?
[09:11:00] <Fluburtur> the caption of the post is
[09:11:01] <Fluburtur> vsauce.
[09:11:01] <Fluburtur> michael here.
[09:11:01] <Fluburtur> you cant contain me forever.
[09:13:42] <Althego> i dont get that containment
[09:14:06] <Fluburtur> the scp foundation got him
[09:14:16] <Althego> hehe
[09:14:41] <Althego> just pops his head up randomly in some youtuber's camera view
[09:37:32] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236563751401160704/524882852064526346/JPEG_20181219_103657.jpg
[09:38:20] <Gasher[work]> lol
[09:38:27] <Gasher[work]> finnish swastikas also
[09:38:43] <Althego> what is that
[09:38:45] <Fluburtur> it is important to put finnish markings on planes
[09:39:17] <Gasher[work]> it's He-152 and something horrible happened to it
[09:39:29] <Fluburtur> he-162
[09:39:34] <Gasher[work]> * 162
[09:39:44] <Fluburtur> like, HG 4 or something
[09:39:48] <Althego> but it is an x-wing
[09:39:55] <Fluburtur> il2 has the HG 2 and 3 I think
[09:40:46] <Gasher[work]> the one with inverted wings 
[09:41:09] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236563751401160704/524883082889920532/JPEG_20181219_103754.jpg
[09:41:17] <Fluburtur> my friend is installing mods
[09:41:33] <Gasher[work]> lol weapon convergence on this
[09:45:12] <Gasher[work]> Fluburtur, https://i.imgur.com/FQW3ipd.jpg
[09:45:42] <Althego> bit like v-1
[09:45:47] <Fluburtur> I made myself a pretty decent volksjager in ksp as well
[09:46:54] <Eddi|zuHause> does it hunt the people, or do the people do the hunting?
[09:50:25] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k9yJI1i5UM
[09:50:26] <kmath> YouTube - Launch of GSLV- F11 / GSAT-7A Mission  Live from Satish Dhawan Space Centre (SHAR), Sriharikota
[10:04:45] <Althego> https://i.imgur.com/blNU8XM.jpg
[10:05:00] <Fluburtur> why
[10:05:09] <Althego> for the greater glory of satan?
[10:05:30] <Althego> https://imgur.com/gallery/uBok4Ha
[10:05:57] <Fluburtur> im pretty sure satan has better tastes
[10:08:43] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm pretty sure the official explanation for the fire is to burn witches on it
[10:09:13] <Althego> https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/kumamon
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[10:22:16] <Althego> hehe action lab. i demand redesign of the mugs so that their resonant frequency is not in walking
[10:40:06] <Althego> launch in 10 sec
[10:43:06] <Fluburtur> who needs telemetry
[11:48:42] <Althego> heh spacex delayed again
[11:53:36] <Eddi|zuHause> maybe you should redesign your walking so it's not in resonant frequency with the mug?
[11:53:56] <Althego> the issue is the mug size
[12:11:48] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/524921696046546944/48375585_1234265786711751_3950240675223568384_n.png
[12:12:00] <Althego> hehe, old
[12:46:19] <Eddi|zuHause> Fluburtur: and now solve it? :p
[12:48:20] <Gasher[work]> with gastric juice
[12:52:01] <Althego> garlic?
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[14:14:17] <Althego> 90 minutes
[14:35:27] <Althego> seems like 2020 will be a bit crowded around mars
[14:35:58] <darsie> Will they crash into each other?
[14:54:20] <Eddi|zuHause> you still believe that mars 2020 will actually launch in 2020?
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[15:03:30] <UmbralRaptor> Unless they have Insight style problems? 
[15:04:04] <Althego> they didnt even give it a name
[15:04:21] <Althego> which makes it doubtful
[15:04:55] <Althego> however we know that at least the descent module or whatever we call it is quite in a good shape already, and the rover is built on curiosity chassis
[15:04:56] <Eddi|zuHause> they should make an internet poll
[15:05:14] <Eddi|zuHause> and then not go with rover mcroveface
[15:05:23] <Althego> currently there are 5 missions that supposedly go there in 2020
[15:06:29] <Eddi|zuHause> statistically 50% of mars landings fail
[15:06:38] <Althego> most are orbiters
[15:07:26] <Eddi|zuHause> orbiters are boring
[15:07:53] <Eddi|zuHause> why would they go through the trouble of faking those?
[15:08:01] <Althego> hehe
[15:09:21] <Eddi|zuHause> guess they need to do _something_ with those 24% of the US annual budget
[15:09:54] <Althego> what 24%?
[15:10:07] <Althego> nasa has around 0.5%
[15:10:23] <Eddi|zuHause> i read an article that said that's how the average american guesses what the budget is
[15:10:31] <Althego> hehe
[15:11:32] <Althego> i hate conspiracy people who say nasa steals their money. and they forget about the worlds biggest military
[15:12:40] <Eddi|zuHause> but the military does defend their country
[15:12:45] <Althego> hehe, no
[15:12:52] <Althego> from what, the canadians?
[15:12:53] <Eddi|zuHause> (usually by defensively invading other countries)
[15:13:04] <Althego> but this is too political
[15:14:04] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, maybe we should discuss a less political part of the US budget?
[15:14:31] <Althego> but you know, it is not my tax money. neither is it yours
[15:15:16] <Eddi|zuHause> but the US military "defends" "my" country, too...
[15:16:09] <Althego> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_Mars#Future_missions
[15:16:31] <Althego> terahertz microsatellite, are we going to pollute the orbit of mars too? :)
[15:17:55] <Althego> 27 minutes until stream start
[15:21:57] <Ezko> i wonder when someone's going to send some commsats to increase bandwith to earth
[15:22:07] <Althego> there are already comsats there
[15:22:14] <Althego> several in fact
[15:22:51] <Ezko> yeah but i remember hearing multiple times that bandwith is running out pretty soon
[15:23:11] <Althego> yes with this kind of spamming of satellites
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[15:45:52] <Althego> stream is not starting
[15:46:10] <Althego> hehe, so this doesnt happen...
[15:50:28] <Althego> ok just 30 minutes delay
[15:50:35] <Althego> for now
[16:04:02] <Althego> gsomething is starting
[16:17:52] <Althego> stream really starting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpHJoo0h8GQ
[16:17:52] <kmath> YouTube - Arianespace Flight VS20  CSO-1 (EN)
[16:37:30] <Althego> here it comes
[16:39:59] <Althego> lol superb images
[16:40:02] <Althego> narely visible
[16:42:50] <Gasher> hm, so it seems that it was not the mass launch day yesterday, but the mass scrubble?
[16:43:12] <Althego> yes even scott changed the title of the video
[16:44:35] <Althego> but why do russians launch spy satellites for the french?
[17:00:35] <VanDisaster> um what?
[17:00:48] <VanDisaster> that's just a russian rocket, not a russian launch
[17:00:59] <Althego> but they did sell the rocket for the launch
[17:01:48] <VanDisaster> arianespace buys soyuz for stuff that's too small for A5
[17:04:15] <VanDisaster> and vega isn't much more than an a-5 SRB with an upper stage ( it isn't, but that was the original idea )
[17:06:53] <VanDisaster> given ariane 6 is due to fly in 18 months its been a bit quiet
[17:07:17] <Althego> the launchpad is still under construction
[17:09:58] <VanDisaster> "France - european leaders in spy satellites"
[17:10:04] <VanDisaster> that's not the best recommendation
[17:11:25] <Althego> at least thgey are not low orbit ion cannons
[17:12:23] <VanDisaster> I'm kinda amused how they're selling it like a commercial sat
[17:12:27] <VanDisaster> can't imagine the NRO doing that
[17:39:15] <Althego> separation
[17:50:14] <VanDisaster> hm, well ariane was talking about laying people off recently because the project is close to finishing, so I guess little news is good news
[17:54:06] <Fluburtur> uh im never gonna progress on the trumpet if I dont have a good motivation for it, and that means playing with peoples
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[19:09:54] <Althego> what the... https://twitter.com/KerbalSpaceP/status/1075467184133017600
[19:09:54] <kmath> <KerbalSpaceP> Don't miss @rocketpcgaming  preview stream of #KSP 1.6 #ToVeeOrNotToVee, and take a deep look into this update! 😎🚀 https://t.co/ejbbiLyxhm
[19:10:00] <Althego> preview stream?
[19:10:09] <Althego> does that mean 1.6 is before christmas?
[19:10:31] <raptop> Watch it slip to January 3rd, or something.
[19:11:52] <Althego> these transforming planes always seem impossible to me https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/a7kx2v/we_really_need_a_sequel_to_the_kerbin_city_mod/
[19:13:18] <Eddi|zuHause> who in his right mind works between christmas and 3rd january?
[19:13:28] <Althego> hehe
[19:13:33] <Althego> i start on 2nd
[19:13:45] <Althego> and it is also my birthday
[19:14:09] <raptop> ;8ball Does CCC count as work?
[19:14:10] <kmath> raptop: Yeah
[19:14:13] <Althego> this really looks like 1.6 before end of year. actually preview streams are usually 1 day before
[19:14:14] <Eddi|zuHause> i've never in my life started before the 7th (as 6th is a holiday)
[19:14:23] <raptop> ;8ball Are CCC attendees in their right minds?
[19:14:23] <kmath> raptop: Most likely
[19:14:45] <Althego> ok, but my last workday this year was the 23rd of november
[19:14:53] <Eddi|zuHause> raptop: i'm afraid 8ball is wrong on at least one of those
[19:15:13] <Althego> eh i got bogged down with these useless contracts
[19:15:38] <Althego> random measurements on the other side of the planet
[19:15:43] <Althego> high g idiots
[19:16:35] <Fluburtur> diamond tester https://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Portable-Gemstone-Diamond-Selector-V2-Jewelry-Gem-Tester-p-27124.html?rmmds=flashdeals&cur_warehouse=CN
[19:17:37] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't remember having dismised a contract so far
[19:17:50] <Althego> nmeither do i
[19:18:00] <Althego> but if i dont get useful ones there is nothing to do
[19:18:16] <Althego> usually there are at least 2-3
[19:18:22] <Althego> or even many
[19:18:41] <Althego> diamond tester?
[19:26:33] <Eddi|zuHause> how can anyone live without a diamond tester?
[19:26:41] <Althego> hehe
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[19:28:52] <Althego> that guy is annoying me. reading the fixes list. since forever. show us something man
[19:34:10] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm currently annoyed by a HDD being louder than before
[19:34:30] <Althego> normally they should be almost silent
[19:35:06] <Eddi|zuHause> they are, but there's different levels of "almost"ness, especially when they get older
[19:37:20] <Eddi|zuHause> so, i just tried issuing a few "hdparm -y" and i think it's /dev/sdd
[19:38:25] <Eddi|zuHause> that's one of my raid disks
[19:38:38] <Eddi|zuHause> WD Red
[19:40:14] <Eddi|zuHause>  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   049   049   000    Old_age   Always       -       37825
[19:41:29] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa 37825/24/365
[19:41:33] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: (37825/24)/365 = 7565/1752
[19:41:46] <Eddi|zuHause> uhm, sure.
[19:41:53] <Eddi|zuHause> that's the answer i wanted
[19:42:10] <Althego> hehehe
[19:42:20] <Althego> abiur 4?
[19:42:22] <Althego> about
[19:42:46] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, 4.3
[19:43:02] <Althego> anyway squad managed to overhaul the parts i never use
[19:43:23] <Althego> but at least a few common parts slipped in
[19:43:30] <Eddi|zuHause> like last time with the stayputnik that isn't ever useful?
[19:43:37] <Althego> hehe
[19:43:43] <Althego> usually used only once
[19:43:46] <Eddi|zuHause> "but now it's shiny"
[19:43:48] <Althego> in the very beginning
[19:43:55] <Althego> i like the sine on it
[19:44:00] <Althego> more parts need that
[19:44:16] <Althego> it could be switachble like the other color schemes
[19:44:16] <Eddi|zuHause> that is true
[19:44:43] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, more visual options would be nice
[19:44:58] <Eddi|zuHause> not only colour scheme, but also pattern
[19:45:26] <Althego> sooner than i think
[19:45:33] <Althego> the relese date
[19:45:40] <Althego> which might mean this year
[19:46:09] <Eddi|zuHause> like with the rocomax black/grey colour scheme, the different size tanks have different patterns
[19:46:22] <Eddi|zuHause> i want that, but as an option for each tank to select
[19:47:07] <Althego> hah engine stats changed too
[19:47:53] <Althego> yes they moved wolfhound to the top of tech tree, that is logical, it was way too op
[19:48:30] <Althego> so i will see soon if the engine data extraction scripts still work :)
[19:49:44] <Eddi|zuHause> never heard of that part
[19:49:57] <Althego> that is probably drom the mod
[19:50:34] <Althego> hehe the guy is called rocketology. good thing i already took warpology :)
[19:51:56] <Althego> meanwhile on an other livestream louis has 0v cpu vcore :)
[20:04:53] <Althego> wow the mk2 lander can has service bays
[20:05:53] <raptop> Alternatively, you can melt the new version and butter your bread with it!
[20:06:22] <Althego> thursday releases are not uncommon
[20:06:25] <Althego> so it may be tomorrow
[20:06:31] <Althego> which is friday for me as i know squad
[20:10:11] <Althego> lol closing the door on a kerbal. evil
[20:11:08] <Althego> heh can walk through the door
[20:38:49] <Althego> https://twitter.com/Firefly_Space/status/1075480294294077440
[20:38:50] <kmath> <Firefly_Space> Engine qual involves testing excursion boundaries & hardware durability. Failures have positive connotation because& https://t.co/CZNGO3a5oF
[20:39:07] <Althego> quite small explosion
[21:03:07] <Althego> lol https://xkcd.com/2087/
[21:06:12] <raptop> Completely accurate
[21:07:53] <Althego> the non glancing carebear hits caused the demise of many rockets. probably at least one spacex :)
[21:08:41] <raptop> That was definitely what happened to CRS-7.
[21:10:07] <Althego> so 1.6 is upon us. i just dont know if i should hold my breath
[21:11:39] <Eddi|zuHause> i have no intention to get excited about the delta-vee-or-not-delta-vee update
[21:11:41] <raptop> Breathing is usually mandatory.
[21:12:24] <Eddi|zuHause> i mean, sure the delta v is nice
[21:13:43] <Eddi|zuHause> but there's nothing in there that sparks any itch to play again
[22:11:12] <Black_Eagle> usually my crafts have <1k dV in LKO but i just accidentally put together something with 4.5kdV in LKO
[22:11:34] <Black_Eagle> that's SSTO space planes*, not just any craft
[22:19:51] <Eddi|zuHause> where do you go with that kind of dV?
[22:30:07] <Fluburtur> tomska became so fat
[22:53:12] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm fairly sure i've seen him before, but i have no recollection of what he actually looks like
[23:24:39] Action: darsie put a space station in orbit that can generate power, has an antenna and can support at least 5 Kerbals :) http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot137.png
[23:24:46] <Black_Eagle> Eddi|zuHause wish i knew. i just tinkered around and figured i should try to build something cool
[23:25:06] <darsie> and has a docking port
[23:26:23] <raptop> darsie: wait, 5 kerbals how?
[23:26:34] <darsie> 6 seats
[23:26:34] <raptop> oh
[23:26:37] <raptop> hah!
[23:26:59] <raptop> So if it were occupied, would it be >50% kerbal by mass?
[23:27:16] <darsie> Dunno if Kerbals have mass.
[23:27:55] <raptop> They do when EVA'd, but with some ladder weirdness. Not sure with seats.
[23:28:47] <darsie> Needed a thumper to get to orbit.
[23:29:17] <darsie> I've done ant ships with a hammer, but 6 seats is too much.