[00:51:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:52:01] <Neal> my computer JUST got the windows october update [00:52:05] <Neal> took forever to install [00:53:34] <UmbralRaptor> uh [00:57:11] <darsie> Did you make that update, or was it forced on you? [01:00:49] <Neal> just clicked "update and shutdown" [01:09:24] <suclearnub> microsoft can pry win 7 from my cold dead hands. [01:09:31] <suclearnub> (this is not an invitation.) [01:09:54] <darsie> They don't charge for it, then, right? [01:16:39] <Neal> now they do [01:17:19] <Neal> the only time you could get win10 for free was if you upgraded from an older windows version, within a year from the win10 release date [01:19:26] <KrazyKrl> If it's free, you're the product being sold. [01:20:00] <KrazyKrl> And i keep hearing a bunch of dumb stuff about win10 to even consider getting it. [01:21:13] <KrazyKrl> things like "windows randomly disabled my mic/headset/misc setting after an update" or the fact that you need to do a bunch of hacky stuff like regedit to disable user data collection (which may get reenabled after updates) [01:29:12] <Neal> KrazyKrl, linux?? [01:30:11] <Neal> gnu is free as in freedom [01:38:58] Action: UmbralRaptor pokes qš with a stick. https://photos.app.goo.gl/aYUkw7ucJQDKvVp6A [01:39:28] <UmbralRaptor> KrazyKrl: if they can find a way to monetize you, you're the product. [01:41:36] <Neal> UmbralRaptor, wowza, wrong text encoding? [01:43:25] <UmbralRaptor> Neal: yeah, SHIFT-JIS I think. [01:48:03] <darsie> Neal: So M$ can upgrade Win 7 to 10 without user consent and charge them for it? [01:48:10] <Neal> no? [01:48:44] <darsie> Ohh, <suclearnub> just sayd "microsoft can pry win 7 from my cold dead hands." Didn't mention upgrade. [03:12:12] <Ezko> darsie: < and > aren't part of the nick and you should try typing for example "sucl" and pressing tab [03:12:39] <darsie> ik [03:12:54] <darsie> Also I didn't mean to ping suclearnub. [03:12:57] <darsie> gn [03:30:21] <Kalpa> UmbralRaptor: Looks like a problem with the pist00.wav [04:24:04] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think that was the point he was trying to make :p [04:59:52] <UmbralRaptor> So, they don't run on my machine, and even if they did& [05:00:05] Action: UmbralRaptor gestures at the mojibake. [05:10:32] <Althego> we can look forward to launch wednesday now [05:23:23] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:18:10] Last message repeated 3 time(s). [08:18:10] <Eddi|zuHause> what happens to this channel when there are a dozen launches each hour? [08:45:17] <Althego> then we are going to be on them [08:46:50] <Fluburtur> baby giraffes are weird [08:52:39] <Gasher[work]> then it should be a bot announcer of launches [08:53:04] <Althego> no, it would be pointless to watch them. just as we dont watch airplanes [09:00:20] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/e26e4c9823737d4bcc2ba0421496375d/tumblr_pjspxigbCx1sm2zm6o1_540.jpg [09:00:41] <Althego> lol i dont even know it now [09:02:33] <Fluburtur> snake in my boot and free real estate [09:10:23] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/34e96de625a188cb2a6d19813eb2da6f/tumblr_inline_pjszfeYCGS1rjpvtz_540.png [09:10:41] <Althego> vsauce? [09:11:00] <Fluburtur> the caption of the post is [09:11:01] <Fluburtur> vsauce. [09:11:01] <Fluburtur> michael here. [09:11:01] <Fluburtur> you cant contain me forever. [09:13:42] <Althego> i dont get that containment [09:14:06] <Fluburtur> the scp foundation got him [09:14:16] <Althego> hehe [09:14:41] <Althego> just pops his head up randomly in some youtuber's camera view [09:37:32] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236563751401160704/524882852064526346/JPEG_20181219_103657.jpg [09:38:20] <Gasher[work]> lol [09:38:27] <Gasher[work]> finnish swastikas also [09:38:43] <Althego> what is that [09:38:45] <Fluburtur> it is important to put finnish markings on planes [09:39:17] <Gasher[work]> it's He-152 and something horrible happened to it [09:39:29] <Fluburtur> he-162 [09:39:34] <Gasher[work]> * 162 [09:39:44] <Fluburtur> like, HG 4 or something [09:39:48] <Althego> but it is an x-wing [09:39:55] <Fluburtur> il2 has the HG 2 and 3 I think [09:40:46] <Gasher[work]> the one with inverted wings [09:41:09] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236563751401160704/524883082889920532/JPEG_20181219_103754.jpg [09:41:17] <Fluburtur> my friend is installing mods [09:41:33] <Gasher[work]> lol weapon convergence on this [09:45:12] <Gasher[work]> Fluburtur, https://i.imgur.com/FQW3ipd.jpg [09:45:42] <Althego> bit like v-1 [09:45:47] <Fluburtur> I made myself a pretty decent volksjager in ksp as well [09:46:54] <Eddi|zuHause> does it hunt the people, or do the people do the hunting? [09:50:25] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k9yJI1i5UM [09:50:26] <kmath> YouTube - Launch of GSLV- F11 / GSAT-7A Mission Live from Satish Dhawan Space Centre (SHAR), Sriharikota [10:04:45] <Althego> https://i.imgur.com/blNU8XM.jpg [10:05:00] <Fluburtur> why [10:05:09] <Althego> for the greater glory of satan? [10:05:30] <Althego> https://imgur.com/gallery/uBok4Ha [10:05:57] <Fluburtur> im pretty sure satan has better tastes [10:08:43] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm pretty sure the official explanation for the fire is to burn witches on it [10:09:13] <Althego> https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/kumamon [10:13:50] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:22:16] <Althego> hehe action lab. i demand redesign of the mugs so that their resonant frequency is not in walking [10:40:06] <Althego> launch in 10 sec [10:43:06] <Fluburtur> who needs telemetry [11:48:42] <Althego> heh spacex delayed again [11:53:36] <Eddi|zuHause> maybe you should redesign your walking so it's not in resonant frequency with the mug? [11:53:56] <Althego> the issue is the mug size [12:11:48] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/524921696046546944/48375585_1234265786711751_3950240675223568384_n.png [12:12:00] <Althego> hehe, old [12:46:19] <Eddi|zuHause> Fluburtur: and now solve it? :p [12:48:20] <Gasher[work]> with gastric juice [12:52:01] <Althego> garlic? [12:54:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:34:57] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:35:12] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:14:17] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [14:14:17] <Althego> 90 minutes [14:35:27] <Althego> seems like 2020 will be a bit crowded around mars [14:35:58] <darsie> Will they crash into each other? [14:54:20] <Eddi|zuHause> you still believe that mars 2020 will actually launch in 2020? [14:55:57] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:03:30] <UmbralRaptor> Unless they have Insight style problems? [15:04:04] <Althego> they didnt even give it a name [15:04:21] <Althego> which makes it doubtful [15:04:55] <Althego> however we know that at least the descent module or whatever we call it is quite in a good shape already, and the rover is built on curiosity chassis [15:04:56] <Eddi|zuHause> they should make an internet poll [15:05:14] <Eddi|zuHause> and then not go with rover mcroveface [15:05:23] <Althego> currently there are 5 missions that supposedly go there in 2020 [15:06:29] <Eddi|zuHause> statistically 50% of mars landings fail [15:06:38] <Althego> most are orbiters [15:07:26] <Eddi|zuHause> orbiters are boring [15:07:53] <Eddi|zuHause> why would they go through the trouble of faking those? [15:08:01] <Althego> hehe [15:09:21] <Eddi|zuHause> guess they need to do _something_ with those 24% of the US annual budget [15:09:54] <Althego> what 24%? [15:10:07] <Althego> nasa has around 0.5% [15:10:23] <Eddi|zuHause> i read an article that said that's how the average american guesses what the budget is [15:10:31] <Althego> hehe [15:11:32] <Althego> i hate conspiracy people who say nasa steals their money. and they forget about the worlds biggest military [15:12:40] <Eddi|zuHause> but the military does defend their country [15:12:45] <Althego> hehe, no [15:12:52] <Althego> from what, the canadians? [15:12:53] <Eddi|zuHause> (usually by defensively invading other countries) [15:13:04] <Althego> but this is too political [15:14:04] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, maybe we should discuss a less political part of the US budget? [15:14:31] <Althego> but you know, it is not my tax money. neither is it yours [15:15:16] <Eddi|zuHause> but the US military "defends" "my" country, too... [15:16:09] <Althego> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_Mars#Future_missions [15:16:31] <Althego> terahertz microsatellite, are we going to pollute the orbit of mars too? :) [15:17:55] <Althego> 27 minutes until stream start [15:21:57] <Ezko> i wonder when someone's going to send some commsats to increase bandwith to earth [15:22:07] <Althego> there are already comsats there [15:22:14] <Althego> several in fact [15:22:51] <Ezko> yeah but i remember hearing multiple times that bandwith is running out pretty soon [15:23:11] <Althego> yes with this kind of spamming of satellites [15:26:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:45:52] <Althego> stream is not starting [15:46:10] <Althego> hehe, so this doesnt happen... [15:50:28] <Althego> ok just 30 minutes delay [15:50:35] <Althego> for now [16:04:02] <Althego> gsomething is starting [16:17:52] <Althego> stream really starting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpHJoo0h8GQ [16:17:52] <kmath> YouTube - Arianespace Flight VS20 CSO-1 (EN) [16:37:30] <Althego> here it comes [16:39:59] <Althego> lol superb images [16:40:02] <Althego> narely visible [16:42:50] <Gasher> hm, so it seems that it was not the mass launch day yesterday, but the mass scrubble? [16:43:12] <Althego> yes even scott changed the title of the video [16:44:35] <Althego> but why do russians launch spy satellites for the french? [17:00:35] <VanDisaster> um what? [17:00:48] <VanDisaster> that's just a russian rocket, not a russian launch [17:00:59] <Althego> but they did sell the rocket for the launch [17:01:48] <VanDisaster> arianespace buys soyuz for stuff that's too small for A5 [17:04:15] <VanDisaster> and vega isn't much more than an a-5 SRB with an upper stage ( it isn't, but that was the original idea ) [17:06:53] <VanDisaster> given ariane 6 is due to fly in 18 months its been a bit quiet [17:07:17] <Althego> the launchpad is still under construction [17:09:58] <VanDisaster> "France - european leaders in spy satellites" [17:10:04] <VanDisaster> that's not the best recommendation [17:11:25] <Althego> at least thgey are not low orbit ion cannons [17:12:23] <VanDisaster> I'm kinda amused how they're selling it like a commercial sat [17:12:27] <VanDisaster> can't imagine the NRO doing that [17:39:15] <Althego> separation [17:50:14] <VanDisaster> hm, well ariane was talking about laying people off recently because the project is close to finishing, so I guess little news is good news [17:54:06] <Fluburtur> uh im never gonna progress on the trumpet if I dont have a good motivation for it, and that means playing with peoples [17:58:51] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:08:46] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:13:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:09:54] <Althego> what the... https://twitter.com/KerbalSpaceP/status/1075467184133017600 [19:09:54] <kmath> <KerbalSpaceP> Don't miss @rocketpcgaming preview stream of #KSP 1.6 #ToVeeOrNotToVee, and take a deep look into this update! đđ https://t.co/ejbbiLyxhm [19:10:00] <Althego> preview stream? [19:10:09] <Althego> does that mean 1.6 is before christmas? [19:10:31] <raptop> Watch it slip to January 3rd, or something. [19:11:52] <Althego> these transforming planes always seem impossible to me https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/a7kx2v/we_really_need_a_sequel_to_the_kerbin_city_mod/ [19:13:18] <Eddi|zuHause> who in his right mind works between christmas and 3rd january? [19:13:28] <Althego> hehe [19:13:33] <Althego> i start on 2nd [19:13:45] <Althego> and it is also my birthday [19:14:09] <raptop> ;8ball Does CCC count as work? [19:14:10] <kmath> raptop: Yeah [19:14:13] <Althego> this really looks like 1.6 before end of year. actually preview streams are usually 1 day before [19:14:14] <Eddi|zuHause> i've never in my life started before the 7th (as 6th is a holiday) [19:14:23] <raptop> ;8ball Are CCC attendees in their right minds? [19:14:23] <kmath> raptop: Most likely [19:14:45] <Althego> ok, but my last workday this year was the 23rd of november [19:14:53] <Eddi|zuHause> raptop: i'm afraid 8ball is wrong on at least one of those [19:15:13] <Althego> eh i got bogged down with these useless contracts [19:15:38] <Althego> random measurements on the other side of the planet [19:15:43] <Althego> high g idiots [19:16:35] <Fluburtur> diamond tester https://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Portable-Gemstone-Diamond-Selector-V2-Jewelry-Gem-Tester-p-27124.html?rmmds=flashdeals&cur_warehouse=CN [19:17:37] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't remember having dismised a contract so far [19:17:50] <Althego> nmeither do i [19:18:00] <Althego> but if i dont get useful ones there is nothing to do [19:18:16] <Althego> usually there are at least 2-3 [19:18:22] <Althego> or even many [19:18:41] <Althego> diamond tester? [19:26:33] <Eddi|zuHause> how can anyone live without a diamond tester? [19:26:41] <Althego> hehe [19:26:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:28:52] <Althego> that guy is annoying me. reading the fixes list. since forever. show us something man [19:34:10] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm currently annoyed by a HDD being louder than before [19:34:30] <Althego> normally they should be almost silent [19:35:06] <Eddi|zuHause> they are, but there's different levels of "almost"ness, especially when they get older [19:37:20] <Eddi|zuHause> so, i just tried issuing a few "hdparm -y" and i think it's /dev/sdd [19:38:25] <Eddi|zuHause> that's one of my raid disks [19:38:38] <Eddi|zuHause> WD Red [19:40:14] <Eddi|zuHause> 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 049 049 000 Old_age Always - 37825 [19:41:29] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa 37825/24/365 [19:41:33] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: (37825/24)/365 = 7565/1752 [19:41:46] <Eddi|zuHause> uhm, sure. [19:41:53] <Eddi|zuHause> that's the answer i wanted [19:42:10] <Althego> hehehe [19:42:20] <Althego> abiur 4? [19:42:22] <Althego> about [19:42:46] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, 4.3 [19:43:02] <Althego> anyway squad managed to overhaul the parts i never use [19:43:23] <Althego> but at least a few common parts slipped in [19:43:30] <Eddi|zuHause> like last time with the stayputnik that isn't ever useful? [19:43:37] <Althego> hehe [19:43:43] <Althego> usually used only once [19:43:46] <Eddi|zuHause> "but now it's shiny" [19:43:48] <Althego> in the very beginning [19:43:55] <Althego> i like the sine on it [19:44:00] <Althego> more parts need that [19:44:16] <Althego> it could be switachble like the other color schemes [19:44:16] <Eddi|zuHause> that is true [19:44:43] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, more visual options would be nice [19:44:58] <Eddi|zuHause> not only colour scheme, but also pattern [19:45:26] <Althego> sooner than i think [19:45:33] <Althego> the relese date [19:45:40] <Althego> which might mean this year [19:46:09] <Eddi|zuHause> like with the rocomax black/grey colour scheme, the different size tanks have different patterns [19:46:22] <Eddi|zuHause> i want that, but as an option for each tank to select [19:47:07] <Althego> hah engine stats changed too [19:47:53] <Althego> yes they moved wolfhound to the top of tech tree, that is logical, it was way too op [19:48:30] <Althego> so i will see soon if the engine data extraction scripts still work :) [19:49:44] <Eddi|zuHause> never heard of that part [19:49:57] <Althego> that is probably drom the mod [19:50:34] <Althego> hehe the guy is called rocketology. good thing i already took warpology :) [19:51:56] <Althego> meanwhile on an other livestream louis has 0v cpu vcore :) [20:04:53] <Althego> wow the mk2 lander can has service bays [20:05:53] <raptop> Alternatively, you can melt the new version and butter your bread with it! [20:06:22] <Althego> thursday releases are not uncommon [20:06:25] <Althego> so it may be tomorrow [20:06:31] <Althego> which is friday for me as i know squad [20:10:11] <Althego> lol closing the door on a kerbal. evil [20:11:08] <Althego> heh can walk through the door [20:38:49] <Althego> https://twitter.com/Firefly_Space/status/1075480294294077440 [20:38:50] <kmath> <Firefly_Space> Engine qual involves testing excursion boundaries & hardware durability. Failures have positive connotation because& https://t.co/CZNGO3a5oF [20:39:07] <Althego> quite small explosion [21:03:07] <Althego> lol https://xkcd.com/2087/ [21:06:12] <raptop> Completely accurate [21:07:53] <Althego> the non glancing carebear hits caused the demise of many rockets. probably at least one spacex :) [21:08:41] <raptop> That was definitely what happened to CRS-7. [21:10:07] <Althego> so 1.6 is upon us. i just dont know if i should hold my breath [21:11:39] <Eddi|zuHause> i have no intention to get excited about the delta-vee-or-not-delta-vee update [21:11:41] <raptop> Breathing is usually mandatory. [21:12:24] <Eddi|zuHause> i mean, sure the delta v is nice [21:13:43] <Eddi|zuHause> but there's nothing in there that sparks any itch to play again [22:11:12] <Black_Eagle> usually my crafts have <1k dV in LKO but i just accidentally put together something with 4.5kdV in LKO [22:11:34] <Black_Eagle> that's SSTO space planes*, not just any craft [22:19:51] <Eddi|zuHause> where do you go with that kind of dV? [22:30:07] <Fluburtur> tomska became so fat [22:53:12] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm fairly sure i've seen him before, but i have no recollection of what he actually looks like [23:24:39] Action: darsie put a space station in orbit that can generate power, has an antenna and can support at least 5 Kerbals :) http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot137.png [23:24:46] <Black_Eagle> Eddi|zuHause wish i knew. i just tinkered around and figured i should try to build something cool [23:25:06] <darsie> and has a docking port [23:26:23] <raptop> darsie: wait, 5 kerbals how? [23:26:34] <darsie> 6 seats [23:26:34] <raptop> oh [23:26:37] <raptop> hah! [23:26:59] <raptop> So if it were occupied, would it be >50% kerbal by mass? [23:27:16] <darsie> Dunno if Kerbals have mass. [23:27:55] <raptop> They do when EVA'd, but with some ladder weirdness. Not sure with seats. [23:28:47] <darsie> Needed a thumper to get to orbit. [23:29:17] <darsie> I've done ant ships with a hammer, but 6 seats is too much.