[00:00:15] <packbart> (yeah, I should register my nick with NickServ so I could bore #kspmodders instead - but meh, another password to forget :)
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[04:15:33] <JVFoxy> any adventures lately or we all burnt out?
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[09:48:47] <Althego> maybe mars launch in 12 hours 10 minutes
[09:49:06] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6pHLJY4Tbo
[09:49:06] <kmath> YouTube - Live streaming for the launch of H-IIA Launch Vehicle No.42
[09:49:17] <Althego> hehe 42
[09:49:41] <Rolf> hope it finds the question
[10:14:48] <flayer> ah, midnight launch isn't going to work for me
[11:53:35] <Althego> yes, that is my problem too. have to watch it next morning
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[14:21:53] <darsie> Ships on the Mun surface "move" in circles at 1000x time warp. Watch the screenshots as a movie.
[14:21:54] <darsie> http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot49.png
[14:21:54] <darsie> http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot50.png
[14:21:54] <darsie> http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot51.png
[14:21:54] <darsie> http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot52.png
[14:21:54] <darsie> http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot53.png
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[14:22:31] <darsie> Load them in separate tabs and cycle through the tabs.
[14:42:55] <flayer> i've seen that too
[14:42:57] <flayer> on minmus
[14:44:32] <Mat2ch> The last time I got so close with a ship to a planet the game swallowed that ship
[14:47:01] <flayer> you mean you crashed into some mountains
[15:32:28] <Mat2ch> flayer: no, I was above the highest point
[15:33:16] <darsie> Maybe the map was wrong.
[15:34:16] <Mat2ch> I don't know
[15:43:15] <Mat2ch> I was in an equatorial orbit, I did several orbits without problems (and without getting into physics warp), then I took my lander and landed, had too few fuel to get back up, started a rescue mission and when that got there my huge space tug was gone.
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[17:54:14] <Plaid> packbart: I've done some digging into that code, it's rough.
[18:18:18] <packbart> yeah, I think I might look at that stability thing some more. sometimes it just doesn't roll. https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/foo4.mp4 (the rover also shouldn't tip over so much, could use some CoM-adjustment)
[18:18:54] <packbart> also, KER's impact predictor suddenly stopped working. the problem with mods is that you might spend more time testing bugs than playing, if you're not careful ;)
[19:56:25] <darsie> 1.10 crashed. It just disappeared.
[19:56:28] <darsie> linux
[20:33:57] <JVFoxy> disappeared as in ... deleted?
[20:39:37] <raptop> darsie's hard drive splashed down hard, and was destroyed
[20:49:35] <JVFoxy> kerbal hard drive... seem to recall a part that looks a bit like a reel-to-reel tape machine
[20:52:20] <Alanonzander> yep
[20:52:48] <JVFoxy> aahyup
[21:07:56] <Althego> i should be sleeping now. but since i am still up because of kerbal, i think i should watch the mars launch too
[21:08:04] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6pHLJY4Tbo
[21:08:05] <kmath> YouTube - Live streaming for the launch of H-IIA Launch Vehicle No.42
[21:20:12] <deadmind> darsie I've had an elevated number of crashes with 1.10 on Windows as well.
[21:21:24] <deadmind> that said, there were performance improvements, which means I have had to restart KSP fewer times per gameplay hour, so maybe I'm just doing longer sessions at a time :)
[21:26:33] <packbart> many live streams for this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLcRd_RZ3Eg
[21:26:34] <kmath> YouTube - Hope Mars Mission: Live Launch
[21:30:47] <packbart> deadmind: I noticed more crashes on Windows than Linux. otoh, I use lots more mods and higher graphics settings on Windows. I think quite a few crashes are caused by mods like Scatterer
[21:37:32] <Althego> didnt notice more crashes, but lately the video card usage is increased, now i can hear fan noise, previously it was around zero
[21:41:36] <umaxtu> could just be dust if your fans are audible more
[21:42:45] <Althego> no, it started when the planet surface revamp happened
[21:42:54] <umaxtu> ah
[21:44:51] <JVFoxy> oof... scatterer. I had massive slow down issues with that in earlier versions of KSP, much sadness
[21:44:55] <darsie> JVFoxy: The KSP window/screen disappeared.
[21:45:16] <JVFoxy> darsie ah ok.. ya hate that. Now crash report
[21:45:21] <JVFoxy> *no
[21:45:33] <umaxtu> is it just me or is the dish painted black?
[21:46:35] <Althego> that's a pleasant japanese voice :)
[21:47:08] <darsie> I keep failing my 'bring 450 units of ore from the surface of The Mun and land it on Kerbin' mission. This time I got through the atmosmphere, but one chute wasn't enough.
[21:47:35] <darsie> Hmm, maybe crashing on land is more benign than splashing down.
[21:48:06] <darsie> I have a Terrier and FL400 tank as crumpling zone.
[21:48:22] <umaxtu> stage recovery gives a useful estimate of the landing speed of the different sections of a vehicle in the VAB
[21:49:45] <packbart> RCS Build Aid calulates touchdown speed with parachutes, too
[21:50:15] <darsie> I found a nice 0.1° landing site on The Mun.
[21:50:18] <JVFoxy> ... wait.. he said 500 million mile journy.. mars isn't quite /that/ far...
[21:50:35] <darsie> Marked by my ore mining/refining truck.
[21:51:01] <Althego> but the course is not straight either
[21:51:02] <darsie> 0.1° inclination.
[21:52:20] <JVFoxy> ok.. 500 million km.. still mars isn't quite that far. its like 1/10th
[21:52:36] <umaxtu> packbart, true, but Sr does it for each stage
[21:52:42] <Althego> hohmann transfer
[21:53:20] <JVFoxy> its about 105 at most.. 34 closest.. roughly
[21:56:06] <JVFoxy> sorry.. anyways
[21:57:54] <Mat2ch> Althego: uh, how far in the countdown are we?
[21:58:02] <Althego> minutes
[21:58:05] <Althego> i dont see a counter
[21:58:15] <Althego> maybe 1 minutes or less
[21:58:32] <umaxtu> i assume that the one voice has been counting down continuously for awhile now
[21:58:46] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6pHLJY4Tbo
[21:58:47] <kmath> YouTube - Live streaming for the launch of H-IIA Launch Vehicle No.42
[21:59:15] <Althego> sparks
[22:01:45] <deadmind> <darsie> Hmm, maybe crashing on land is more benign than splashing down.   < it 100% is. when you hit the water, parts just disappear, which means every part whose max impact speed is lower than your velocity will just disappear
[22:01:58] <deadmind> meaning above 10m/s most cockpits will die
[22:02:08] <deadmind> on land you have explosions acting as crumple zones
[22:02:53] <deadmind> I might do a video on this eventually - i've completely gone out of the habit of including parachutes in my return capsules for this reason, it's not necessary :D
[22:11:18] <Althego> ii forgot the parachutes from a recovery probe. but it is going to circularize and an other one is is going to take up the parachutes
[22:12:16] <deadmind> oh neat, that actually makes your mission more interesting instead of just having to revert
[22:12:31] <Althego> cant revert, too many other missions in parallel
[22:14:08] <JVFoxy> didn't save state?
[22:22:19] <Althego> one thing is for sure, i am not going towatch the spacex launch tomorrowű
[22:22:23] <Althego> that is too late too
[22:22:37] <deadmind> you mean the scrub? :D
[22:24:42] <JVFoxy> scrub a dub... er anyways
[22:51:19] <darsie> Landing my ore on land worked, just the FL10 adapter broke when the rocket fell over while held by the chute: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot61.png
[22:58:42] <darsie> deadmind: ^
[23:02:23] <deadmind> darsie: nice :)
[23:02:28] <deadmind> well done
[23:02:35] <darsie> :)
[23:03:08] <deadmind> it's also worth turning on the aero forces and finding an attitude that decreases your vertical speed just before impact
[23:03:41] <deadmind> with a slim rocket if you just point it prograde you will have a much higher terminal velocity than if you are slamming the air with the side of the rocket
[23:03:48] <deadmind> *retrograde
[23:03:57] <darsie> My only RWs were in the hecs. and I had 3 m/s left for the Terrier.
[23:04:52] <darsie> Hmm, I could have broken the symmetry of the airbrakes and opened only one. But they're not effective at 14 m/s.
[23:06:25] <deadmind> oh, if you were already down to 14m/s there's no point anyway :)
[23:08:03] <packbart> I think I'll put lgg
[23:08:11] <darsie> lgg?
[23:08:51] <packbart> wrong key ;) I meant, I think I'll put linuxgurugamer's twitch stream on in the background and head to bed. maybe
[23:09:30] <packbart> bearded man talking about KSP
[23:09:38] <deadmind> he has a twitch stream? :o
[23:09:40] <deadmind> wth
[23:10:45] <packbart> yeah, I sometime watch him fix mods (I think that's tomorrow's stream)
[23:10:57] <packbart> you can see your pull request being handled live
[23:11:25] <deadmind> lol wow
[23:11:31] <deadmind> can you paste a link?
[23:11:41] <packbart> https://www.twitch.tv/linuxgurugamer
[23:11:47] <deadmind> i always thought it's weird how little mention there seems to be of linuxgurugamer despite of all the work he does
[23:11:56] <deadmind> thanks!
[23:12:23] <packbart> yeah, 429 github respositories
[23:14:46] <packbart> huh, he did have a better screen layout on the stream once. letterboxed KSP...