[05:58:33] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIDytLL734A [05:58:34] YouTube - Boeing's Starliner Launch to the International Space Station [05:58:36] in a few hours [08:53:25] Althego: interesting [08:53:35] I thought they weren't that far in the process [08:54:46] because of the spacex explosion they are now head to head for the first humans to the iss [08:57:14] not really [08:57:38] but almost [08:57:45] I wonder when the inflight abort test is [08:57:55] also for Boeing everything has to work today [08:57:57] and tomorrow [09:06:19] i think nasa did not ask for an in flight abort test [09:06:23] spacex did it anyway [09:25:41] well, I'd rather fly in a capsule that has proven its abort capability [09:25:49] although launches got pretty safe lately [09:27:05] I watched the video about Starship not having an abort mechanism yesterday. Well, we got pretty safe airplanes now. But they don't have a rocket pushing them through max-q... [09:36:02] it doesnt have a separate abort mechanism. but it has its main engines [09:37:10] the question is if they're powerful enough to propell the ship fast enough away from the exploding booster... [09:37:16] according to elon, even if the booster is disintegrating, it cant do a fast explosion because the fuel and oxidizer is not mixed [09:37:30] well, ok [09:37:37] but what when the engines on starship fail? [09:37:41] still, i wouldnt want to be there when i explodes :) [09:37:43] or the tank breaks apart? [09:38:39] the top can't just break off and fall down on a parachute... [09:38:50] I mean, I'm all in for landing Crew Dragon under power [09:38:59] but it has a backup system... [09:39:47] that is a different thing [09:40:00] how and why? Both systems are falling from the sky... [09:40:20] the abort mechanism is to take the crew away from the faulty booster [09:40:32] having some kind of recovery for the crew part [09:40:35] that is different [09:40:58] for the soyuz that is the reentry part. but there is no such thing for the starship [09:41:27] they didnt even mention it [10:01:02] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:20:07] well [10:20:18] my ssto space plane is another masterpiece [10:20:21] but [10:20:33] is there a way to automatically restart the drills when power ran out? [10:20:37] it's annoying [10:20:58] I have to drill for weeks and I don't want to have to restart them all the time [10:21:00] :| [10:23:08] simple, turn on maximum time warp and power never runs out [10:23:16] uh, five minutes [10:23:43] which is kind of cheating, but that is what the game usually does [10:24:05] well, flying to a distant planet and refilling by mining ore is a bit cheaty, too ;) [10:24:16] I wonder why the drills have to stop [10:24:20] and turned back on [10:24:22] unless it is metallic hydrogen :) [10:24:29] and the resource converter doesn't [10:24:45] But where do you get the oxygene from? [10:31:10] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg [10:31:10] YouTube - NASA Live: Official Stream of NASA TV [10:32:52] ok, 1 hour until launch [10:34:54] had to refresh it lol [10:43:34] well, if the launch takes really 50 minutes I can take a shower in the meantime ;P [10:43:53] .oO( yeah, I'm on holiday already. :P ) [10:43:54] you can even have a nap :) [10:44:08] A nap in the shower doesn't sound safe. ;) [10:44:14] not at the same time [10:56:51] more batteries [10:59:01] more timewarp [10:59:47] btw the boeing capsule is already a failure, sending one person up with it is more expensive than a soyuz seat [11:16:59] Althego: it is? [11:17:09] What about Crew Dragon? [11:17:14] i am not sure [11:17:23] Fluburtur: more batteries means more weight which means less performance [11:17:33] probably cheaper, but by not much, because they want to milk it [11:17:36] which will drag me down in the add more fuel and power spiral... [11:17:58] well, they can at least milk it... [11:44:48] So, no onboard cams? [11:45:50] and why are there so many people watching and working? If you see the SpaceX facilities, they mostly look empty... [11:45:56] theres hould be [11:46:02] there is a test dummy and a floatyng snoopy [11:47:12] also everything in imperial units. Wow, such future, so modern [12:14:10] "orbital insertion delayed" - soooo, it's coming back down? [12:23:45] hehe [12:30:13] Everyday Astronaut also thinks it's coming back down. Let's see what the official euphemism is [12:48:44] KSP is still the go-to simulation software for Space Yotubers [12:48:50] ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K82CRHDT1wc ) [13:04:08] KSP players know that feeling. https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1208006636746330120 [13:04:09] Starliner was pointed at 90 degrees to prograde while they were trying to perform insertion. https://t.co/jNrgwQdnB7 [13:16:13] Even I know that's not how that works [13:21:54] they haven't played enough ksp [13:23:23] seems to have tumbled a bit: https://twitter.com/Mini_Elon/status/1208008983946170369 [13:23:23] @DJSnM Don't know if this was normal but it looked out to me. https://t.co/vEeNkKAOry [13:24:08] so either it's coming back down or it's in orbit but with the wrong inclination and phase to get to the ISS [13:24:14] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:24:47] Boeing clicks "Revert to launch" [13:28:37] ctrl-z [13:42:37] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:39:38] official press conference now. let's see where it's at [14:40:07] lnik? [14:40:32] oh the same [14:59:16] I just came back from eating, just in time for the launch [15:27:24] what launch [15:38:07] better than coming back from eating, just in time for lunch [15:49:47] anyway the launch is so much over that there was a debrief of the failure too [15:50:50] don't call it a failure. it was an off-nominal success [15:53:21] just some issue with the "Mission Chronometer Augmentation System" [16:26:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:29:20] lolsob [16:43:18] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:37:23] of course scott was going to make a video on that but it will be more interesting than planned [18:49:28] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:56:46] oh wow, china is planning on getting a sample from the moon next year [18:57:46] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:58:01] i really hope the west will include them for lunar base stuff [19:10:30] Does China want to be included? [19:11:48] actually nasa is not allowed to cooperate with the chinese. i guess it i the same on the other side too [19:11:57] Will China convert to pseudodemocracy to be included? Will China honor human rights? Will USA honor human rights? [19:14:59] they are not going to start with that in a few days [19:15:37] We need an alien invasion to unite. [19:17:04] we should just work together as much as possible and let each other alone otherwise [19:17:36] ah scott [19:46:26] so, they ran out of dV? that happens to me all the time [19:51:23] hehe [20:21:54] i'm going to have like 200 dv left at a 3600 km orbit [20:22:19] that is overengineered :) [20:22:43] def [20:25:19] im putting a bigger lifter underneath it otherwise i can't get back [20:29:59] i like how getting to the mun is easier than an orbit around kerbin lower than the mun [20:30:09] (orbit around the mun) [20:42:13] how so? [21:13:56] Is this an Oberth thing? [21:22:05] it may just be incompetence [21:23:01] i like saying random things just to make sure someone is there so. [21:23:02] test. [21:24:53] Action: raptop gives LushPineapple29 a D+ [21:25:29] huh. [21:25:32] (Perhaps the test shouldn't have involved so many Jackson problems) [21:27:05] vibe check [21:27:25] vibe slovak [21:27:38] Anyway, thoughts on the new SRBs? [21:28:50] If your talking to me, not much. [21:29:19] I think the SRBs are cool. [21:29:24] and thats really all. [21:30:10] Action: raptop was surprised that the larger ones can carry (tiny) payloads to kerbin escape [21:30:49] huh. [21:33:03] Action: raptop has sadly had limited time and interest in KSP lately. blame grad school and/or burnout after playing on and off since, er, 2011 [21:34:31] this is just my opinion, school is just a place where they eat up your free time and then you just sit in a chair and do work. [21:35:33] depending on how much homework you have, you can have 3 hours of free time [21:39:31] depends on how do you spen the time in school [21:39:50] growing like a cabbage or try to squeeze something in [21:41:50] huh. [21:42:41] Anyway, research can be fun. If, uh, occasionally involving scary amounts of responsibility [21:43:00] (You want me to operate a telescope that costs 3-4 decades of my current salary?) [21:47:35] i built this weird tiny lander in ksp minutes ago. [21:47:57] weird in what way? [21:48:14] weird in design [21:49:09] Landing on Mk55s, or something? [21:49:54] i'm terrible at communication and new to ksp, i need you to describe that. [21:53:12] Uh, probably it would be easiest if you posted pics [21:53:19] huh [21:53:21] i will [21:55:24] https://gyazo.com/0390eb43eb0c987cc927aa609f83688d [22:01:26] solar panel blast shield! [22:01:28] (or something) [22:02:56] How is it on ΔV and instruments? [22:18:39] back. [22:19:21] re [22:19:31] alright so [22:19:36] thats just the lander itself [22:20:49] it can burn for 31 seconds [22:23:53] Seems a bit limited, but not sure what that amounts to in m/s [22:24:03] 1022m/s [22:24:28] this is a small lander for a mun [22:24:39] Yeah, should be plenty for LMO to surface [22:24:47] yeah [22:24:56] maybe there could be some left to get back into orbit? [22:25:06] but mun orbit [22:25:20] its impossible to get itself back into kerbin orbit [22:26:24] imma create a little test of setting the lander into muns orbit with hyperedit and then land, and then try to get into mun orbit [22:26:25] Probably just barely short for getting back into orbit [22:26:54] (ignoring rotation and altitude, a circular orbit around the moon would be ~570 m/s) [22:27:42] i just realized [22:27:47] it can barely hold itself up [22:28:47] alright im conducting the test [22:31:21] i landed on the mun with 6.47 Oxidizer left and 5.30 Liquid fuel left [22:31:56] im going to try to head back into orbit [22:32:26] and im out of fuel [22:32:47] that was a weird test [22:32:54] but it worked [22:37:41] huh, what's your final ap/pe? [22:38:47] i reverted to the vab but if your talking about the max height i got around 55,110 [22:39:01] i wasn't paying attention and did full throttle [22:43:10] hm [22:43:15] huh [22:43:43] i've sent rovers to duna before but i really never payed attention to the mun [22:44:30] hah [22:44:33] i've also done one way trips to duna [22:44:50] which literally means sending kerbals to duna with no way back home [22:45:28] thats also what i like calling banishing kerbals [22:46:53] I guess that's one way to keep Jeb from sneaking into test craft [22:47:13] i have a save with around 20 kerbals stuck on duna [22:47:30] alll they have is a rover with a seat on it [22:47:59] Good thing kerbals don't need food. Or water. Or more air than a single large helmet can supply [22:49:34] yeah [22:50:00] Jeb has been stuck in a metal can for around 3 years now [22:50:22] by himself [22:50:28] on a giant red planet [22:50:31] alone [22:50:46] with his radio connection with home cut [22:50:52] aww [22:52:43] ow [22:53:58] huh [22:54:59] where should i launch a rocket to [22:59:57] i'm going to minmus next. one trip, ~3000 science if things go as planned [23:01:23] Eve skydiving? [23:01:47] ...extreme skydiving. Kerbal disembarks on Gilly, attempts to splashdown in the explodium sea [23:02:24] huh [23:02:31] that works well [23:02:36] Imma try it :D [23:05:50] yay [23:07:46] im in eve orbit and about to skydive :D [23:08:31] jeb is now skydiving [23:08:40] i turned on Ignore Max Tempature [23:08:52] so he's gonna not be cooked alive [23:46:22] Dres