[00:12:59] <Eddi|zuHause> the first thing i did in cities skylines was download a mod that let me disable left turns
[00:13:49] <Eddi|zuHause> also, i generally hate roundabouts
[00:16:10] <Azander> my city has 2... and they are horrid.  poorly setup mostly
[00:18:15] <Azander> figure simple 4 way stop.  normal 2 lane roads.  They pulled out the intersection and replaced it with the roundabout, but didn't expand the intersection any.
[00:19:15] <Phantom_Hoover> they're extremely common in britain and they're fantastic
[00:19:25] <Phantom_Hoover> cheap, simple and they keep traffic flowing
[00:19:53] <Phantom_Hoover> they're not even hard to drive around, i don't understand how people struggle
[00:21:43] <Azander> THis one is so tight it is like making a left turn
[00:22:13] <tawny> roundabouts are good for paradoxical reasons mostly
[00:22:26] <tawny> the harder you make it to drive, the more attention drivers have to pay to the road
[00:22:32] <tawny> and so you have fewer accidents
[00:22:52] <Azander> true, but there has been an increase of 10-20% in accidents at this one
[00:23:07] <tawny> yeah, I'm not too surprised
[00:23:24] <tawny> places like america do poorly with them because nobody's familiar with them
[00:23:26] <Phantom_Hoover> if people aren't familiar with them that's not too surprising
[00:23:29] <Azander> the other one, they expanded, and accidents have dropped off
[00:25:16] <Mathuin> Different states have different rules on how to handle roundabouts (also called rotaries here) -- there's one about two miles from the border between two states with different rules and there are a *lot* of accidents there.
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[00:45:51] <Flub_ugh> electron soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K9PVmjjI_c
[00:45:51] <kmath> YouTube - Rocket Lab - Still Testing Launch
[00:57:45] <Mathuin> If anyone here has played with GUI stuff in kOS, I'd love to see some simple demos.  The only example I've seen is from RAMP's "fly" program which is helpful but more examples are more helpful.
[01:05:14] <Draconiator> Holy crap those Rutherford engines are TINYYYYYYYYYYYYYY  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngvow6egisg
[01:05:14] <kmath> YouTube - Rocket Labs Rutherford Engine Qualified for Flight
[01:06:02] <Flub_ugh> about the next size as the ones made by copenhagen suborbitals
[01:08:43] <Draconiator> hmmm.  maybe I can try to make a version of the Electron on KSP...I think I know how to as well.  
[01:54:55] <esspapier> you can do it ULA
[01:56:44] <Flub_ugh> im trying to find the pins of my flyback transfo
[01:56:52] <Flub_ugh> I decided that I want to make a driver for it
[02:56:13] <Flub_ugh> any rocket nerd here knows how to calculate nozzles?
[03:02:00] <Flub_ugh> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K9PVmjjI_c
[03:02:01] <kmath> YouTube - Rocket Lab - Still Testing Launch
[03:09:36] <Flub_ugh> launch soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K9PVmjjI_c
[03:09:36] <kmath> YouTube - Rocket Lab - Still Testing Launch
[06:38:21] <Althego> https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/imaginativeobedientgermanwirehairedpointer
[06:39:34] <Althego> hmm engine cluster support. i dont have to use cubic... for that anymore (in 1.4)
[06:44:53] <Rolf> looks like rainbow colored background
[07:22:31] <mib_64ze0d> Do the location of ore deposits change from game to game?
[07:23:10] <Supercheese> I believe they are randomized yeah
[07:24:31] <mib_64ze0d> I just started my second career game and they seem different. Not a huge difference but definitely differnt
[07:25:07] <mib_64ze0d> I actually found a place on minmus that had close to 16% which is 50% more than the max I had ever seen before
[07:49:02] <FTSF> Hi
[07:49:44] <FTSF> May I ask some questions in this chat?
[07:50:57] <RandomJeb> did you just ask a question without permission?
[07:51:29] <FTSF> well I don't know the rules for this chat
[07:52:14] <RandomJeb> seems like it was fine though you didn't even get kicked
[07:52:22] <RandomJeb> try another one
[07:52:25] <FTSF> Thats nice.
[07:52:59] <FTSF> I'm having trouble mining mun. reserves of ore on mun is too low
[07:53:51] <FTSF> the overall percentage of ore 0.2% and I spot on most highlighted place
[07:54:02] <mib_64ze0d> thats a problem....
[07:54:05] <FTSF> only 1.2% of ore there
[07:54:26] <mib_64ze0d> mining the moon is terrible compared to mining minmus
[07:54:51] <FTSF> oh then this is not just for me
[07:55:18] <FTSF> I thought amounts of rescources are random
[07:55:23] <mib_64ze0d> minmus mining is much much easier - especially getting the product to orbit part
[07:55:43] <FTSF> I got this contract of mining ore from mun, amount of 2950
[07:55:59] <FTSF> I must cancel it
[07:56:02] <RandomJeb> ore deposits are somewhat randomized from game to game but 1.2% isn't uncommon
[07:56:05] <mib_64ze0d> I never took that one. There is supposidly some trick around it
[07:56:22] <RandomJeb> you can easily mine 2950 ore at a 1.2% location
[07:56:45] <mib_64ze0d> I've read that if you take the contract then mine ore. Then give any ore as credit it will count
[07:57:24] <FTSF> overall amount 0.2%, and I spot most highlighted place but scanner says only 1.2% of ore there
[07:57:33] <mib_64ze0d> idk if they've fixed that though
[07:59:11] <FTSF> maybe too much mods made this
[07:59:16] <RandomJeb> you're lucky to find anything over 3% really
[07:59:19] <RandomJeb> I don't see the problem
[08:01:05] <FTSF> need to sniff around every corner in that site
[08:01:08] <FTSF> thx guys
[08:01:39] <RandomJeb> this isn't like a percentage of your contract, this is a percentage of material extracted from the ground being ore, basically just an extraction speed modifier
[08:02:06] <RandomJeb> your contract should last years so time shouldn't be an issue
[08:03:10] <FTSF> yes, only I can find the right spot
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[08:24:45] <Althego> opportunity reached 45 km. and getting close to sol 5000
[09:45:18] <Althego> https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9116559616/hAEC2E579/
[09:50:08] <Blaank> Is China dropping hypergolic booster stages on random towns?   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1wMn8g7lW8
[09:50:09] <kmath> YouTube - What Happens To Discarded Rocket Boosters And Old Satellites?
[09:52:17] <bees> totally calculated towns
[09:53:33] <TheKosmonaut> Blaank: China has a... History with that
[09:57:28] <TheKosmonaut> ;g Long March 3 1996
[09:57:43] <TheKosmonaut> ... do you do anything kmath
[09:58:51] <TheKosmonaut> !g Long March 3 China 1996
[09:58:52] <Qboid> TheKosmonaut: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_March_3 [Long March 3 - Wikipedia] (3710000 results found, took 0.62s)
[10:00:21] <TheKosmonaut> Wait...
[10:00:31] <TheKosmonaut> Why is that launch not there
[10:00:47] <TheKosmonaut> !g Long March failure February 14 1996
[10:00:48] <Qboid> TheKosmonaut: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelsat_708 [Intelsat 708 - Wikipedia] (1670000 results found, took 0.58s)
[10:01:44] <TheKosmonaut> That'd be it
[10:01:49] <TheKosmonaut> Blaank: ^
[10:01:53] <TheKosmonaut> !leave
[10:01:53] <Qboid> TheKosmonaut: I will leave this channel now.
[10:02:03] <Blaank> whu?
[10:02:15] <Blaank> That's when the whole rocket came down.
[10:02:25] <Blaank> They normally chuck 4 boosters at a time at towns.
[10:14:24] <GlassYuri> somewhat related, chinese missile train: https://twitter.com/s_transer/status/648057344161529856
[10:14:24] <kmath> <s_transer> j“KäÐDn®caƒc_L... http://t.co/0p8cqxo1gA
[10:44:28] <Mat2ch> the problems with trains is: No rail, no train. ;)
[10:45:55] <Mat2ch> FH hold down test probably on Monday
[10:46:07] <Mat2ch> This sounds so SpaceX. ;)
[10:48:13] <Blaank> Yeah, it's too freaking cold to be driving to florida where it is just as freaking cold.
[10:48:15] <Blaank> So I'm not going.
[11:12:31] <ConductorCat> :3
[11:12:33] <Oneiros> hi
[11:12:46] <Oneiros> hi Mod9000 
[11:13:01] <Oneiros> excellent thanks. how about you
[11:14:33] <Oneiros> nice, sounds exciting.
[11:20:30] <Althego> lol
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[12:22:03] <APlayer> Hello there!
[12:22:11] <taniwha> hi, APlayer 
[12:26:37] <Fluburtur> yo
[12:29:43] <APlayer> So, what are you guys up to?
[12:30:42] <Fluburtur> I want to build a rocket engine again
[12:30:58] <Althego> liquid?
[12:31:00] <APlayer> IRL?
[12:31:04] <Fluburtur> hybrid
[12:31:19] <Althego> that is not too hard
[12:31:34] <Fluburtur> I want to power a plane with it
[12:31:48] <APlayer> Uh-oh
[12:31:50] <Althego> it would have less sustain than an electric
[12:32:24] <APlayer> "Hey, neighbour. Sorry for that explosion in your kitchen, I accidentally launched a rocket in there"
[12:32:37] <Fluburtur> but the plane in question will be a me 163
[12:32:44] <Althego> hehe
[12:32:51] <Althego> it has to be rocket powered then
[12:33:38] <APlayer> Fluburtur: Unless it goes sub-orbital, I will not be satisfied with the end result :P
[12:33:45] <Althego> hehe
[12:35:03] <Fluburtur> well
[12:35:13] <Fluburtur> we will see how powerful I can make an engine
[12:35:28] <Fluburtur> totally unrelated, does anyone here knows how to calculate nozzles?
[12:35:36] <Althego> measure its isp!
[12:36:17] <Fluburtur> because the actual engine will be deep inside the plane and there will be a tube and a nozzle at the end
[12:36:32] <Fluburtur> so im nut sure how that will work
[12:36:37] <APlayer> Fluburtur: No idea how related this is to aerodynamics, but it might be. So I'd suggest to ask Ferram4
[12:37:04] <APlayer> You may find him over at #kspacademia
[12:37:06] <Fluburtur> eh aerodynamics are already covered
[12:37:14] <Fluburtur> id by german dudes in the 40s
[12:37:15] <APlayer> I mean engine nozzles
[12:37:30] <APlayer> They might be related to aerodynamics
[12:37:48] <APlayer> If not, I am sure Ferram4 could direct you somewhere else
[12:37:56] <Fluburtur> yeah I guess
[12:38:03] <Althego> yes the nozzle seems to be iportantfor optimal performanc
[12:38:46] <Fluburtur> https://sketchboard.me/dARoOaseBldv#/
[12:39:40] <Althego> lol
[12:39:49] <Althego> professional
[12:39:59] <Fluburtur> yeah
[12:40:05] <Fluburtur> several peoples drew on it too
[14:44:29] <GlassYuri> https://twitter.com/betakuang/status/954343707746029570
[14:44:30] <kmath> <betakuang> Å”ÙûÑÀH< https://t.co/fv3rmeibco
[14:45:32] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBXV8lf1dcM&t=0s
[14:45:32] <kmath> YouTube - Longer hover test RC VTOL scale Harrier
[14:54:06] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: needs more stabilisation ;)
[14:55:15] <Fluburtur> I installed the new tail ont he canadair
[14:55:24] <Fluburtur> but it is heavier so I need to put more weight in the nose
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[17:44:08] <madmerlyn> 105 years in and the only war fought so far was started by me, ended up claiming 2 systems from it
[18:13:26] <Draconiator> Hmmm, trying to upgrade my VTOL so it's lighter and faster.  thinking I know how to do it.
[18:17:54] <JCB> go outside they said.... mm... https://twitter.com/AstroKomrade/status/937734856062185472
[18:17:55] <kmath> <AstroKomrade> Diving head-first into the vastness of space. How spectacular is that view? @Space_Station #spacewalk https://t.co/KeJQWanN1F
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[19:21:31] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/404349724930342912/20180120190849_1.jpg
[19:23:51] <Fluburtur> apparently air france is recruiting pilots
[19:23:58] <Fluburtur> and the requirements are very easy
[19:27:22] <Fluburtur> but I don't think I would like to be a airline pilot
[19:32:44] <Draconiator> Eeeeesh.  very easy airline pilot requirements?  Never flying with them like...ever now...
[19:33:15] <Fluburtur> well they recruit basically anyone that can speak french and english then they pass test and egt a 2 years formation
[19:33:33] <Fluburtur> but only 100 free spots so they will take good ones
[19:37:21] <Mathuin> Does anyone use the JSI external cameras?  No matter where I put it, I get a view perpendicular to the axis of my craft looking straight out. :-(
[19:38:03] <Mat2ch> Mathuin: afaik you have to turn them in the direction you want to have them looking
[19:38:16] <Mathuin> Mat2ch: I did, and I used 'u' in the editor to confirm the direction, but no joy.
[19:43:23] <Mat2ch> then I cannot be of further help
[19:51:11] <Mathuin> Alas.  Thanks.
[19:56:39] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch did I tell you that I put the new tail on the canadair?
[20:03:59] <Fluburtur> I need to send that to my couzin https://youtu.be/DduIYV78b0c
[20:03:59] <kmath> YouTube - 1st Ever Through the Fire and Flames BRUTAL Pro Drums 100% FC
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[20:06:50] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: yeah, I saw that. And you made it too heavy ;)
[20:07:17] <Fluburtur> yeah
[20:07:33] <Fluburtur> but well, I can probably just move the weights that are laready inside more forward
[20:10:42] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/94c099ff89c14f2e75ef5bced86dab95.png - Internet speeds are so fast these days...and this is just our basic plan.
[20:43:10] <Althego> the all girl ship with happy pilot and tourists http://www.warpology.com/k/happy.png
[21:12:40] <sandbox> https://twitter.com/shoddycast/status/954579337621196800
[21:12:41] <kmath> <shoddycast> .@ElonMusk as Mister House in #Fallout New Vegas. You're welcome internet. https://t.co/SILCWQX1cR
[21:13:30] <Althego> hehe
[21:13:41] <Althego> what happened to the static firetest?
[21:24:03] <Mathuin> It was pushed back because of the Atlas launch delay, but that's all I know.
[21:35:02] <JCB> hm.... think we need to do some more science on this.. https://imgur.com/a/Hs6MQ
[21:35:05] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/FqSEXAN.jpg
[22:02:41] <oren> https://imgur.com/GYUiGB9 Ore for the Ore god! fuel for the fuel throne
[22:02:41] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/GYUiGB9.jpg
[22:06:17] <JCB> ok.. wow.. some wacky camera physics while going EVA directly over the north pole...
[22:09:53] <JCB> erm... mental note: avoid walking directly over the poles... kraken will just silly slap you over
[22:11:47] <JCB> ugh ok enough experimenting... brain feels like rocks still >.<
[22:13:50] <Fluburtur> uh
[22:13:57] <Fluburtur> im trying to find a movie to watch again
[22:15:27] <oren> JCB: try evaing across an SOI boundary back and forth repeatedly
[22:22:48] <oren> https://imgur.com/pDvUCu1 my favorite thing on the Mun is flying through these canyons at orbital speed
[22:22:48] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/pDvUCu1.jpg
[22:25:53] <JCB> oren don't have to, at least not repeatedly, sometimes the game will just mess up anyways
[22:26:07] <JCB> had a few times where I couldn't create maneuver nodes...
[22:26:31] <JCB> oh speaking of canyons...
[22:29:01] <JCB> not exactly going low through the big canyon... but you get the idea. Was during the shake down cruise of the Carter... flying over the 'Cut' as it were in the Lander (not sure if i named it yet) https://imgur.com/a/YD1o1
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[22:34:01] <JCB> ... aaaaaaanyways. c_c
[22:50:47] <KrazyKrl> I just physically twitched at the overlayed overlays in that UI.
[22:51:20] <JCB> ....
[22:51:24] <JCB> layer apon layers?
[23:17:23] <Fluburtur> I should try to build a heli swashplate out of lego
[23:17:33] <Fluburtur> I have the parts required
[23:26:45] <oren> KrazyKrl: What overlays
[23:46:53] <Mathuin> ve2dmn: https://gfycat.com/bighearteddisfigureddogwoodtwigborer -- someone made a lander test frame to debug their kOS scripts
[23:47:05] <Mathuin> https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/7rpheh/tried_to_write_a_kos_script_for_my_probe_lander/?utm_content=comments&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=frontpage -- the reddit discussion