[00:04:40] i've had multiple planes jump in the air in 1.4 [00:05:16] now, with all the science from my mun landing, do i research 3x300 or 2x550 techs? [00:05:34] (about 1100 science) [00:12:39] Eddi|zuHause: Depends what you want to do? Go for a research lab on Minmus? [00:13:05] I like the Dawn :). [00:33:21] i went for 3x300 [00:33:44] now i need to figure out how to get a satellite into geostationary orbit of duna... [00:35:07] Land it on the Duna facing side of Ike? [00:35:40] Aerobrake till your Ap is right, then raise Pe. [00:36:42] The map will show you the orbit. [00:36:49] target orbit [00:38:03] it's not like i have any experience aerobraking on duna [00:38:36] or going to duna in the first place [00:39:00] Duna is aerobraking paradise. [00:39:35] try 22 km [00:40:46] or 25 [00:41:34] Your antenna or solar panels may even survive without retracting. [00:42:34] it's not the aerobraking that will kill you... [00:42:38] it's the lithobreaking. [00:43:09] Aerobraking can be quite deadly. [00:43:14] i don't think that is universally correct :p [00:58:54] 65d to duna launch window, i can probably fit a minimus training mission in there [01:04:21] Eddi|zuHause: There's generally little reason to use time efficiently. [01:05:08] Other than not expiring your contracts. [02:09:20] UmbralRaptop: hey do you have +S? [02:13:47] TheKosmonaut: just +AO [02:14:14] It seems I inherited F [02:14:51] congratudolences [02:14:52] UmbralRaptop: apparently youre not registered. [02:14:56] uh [02:15:08] Raptop isnt grouped with Raptor(?) [02:17:15] Would help if I used proper syntax. Hang on [02:17:23] UmbralRaptop and UmbralRaptor look grouped to me o_O [02:17:40] Ok fixed [02:19:34] Deddly and I will have F and you have S. I havent seen Supernovy in a while :/ [02:19:39] ;seen supernovy [02:19:40] TheKosmonaut: supernovy (supernovy!~Supernovy@202.36.179.100) was last seen quitting in somewhere at 2018-09-16 21:48:54 +0000 [02:23:28] Yeah, full month [03:21:42] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:21:52] that's like a century in internet ages... he could be long dead [03:26:45] damn, I must be thousands of years old then [03:29:36] time is relative.. [03:33:11] icefire: Greetings, let us tell you about metalworking [04:35:14] "[Mariner 9] is expected to crash onto the Martian surface sometime around 2020." [04:41:02] ... that think still up there huh? [04:41:06] *thing [04:43:33] Apparently! [06:12:09] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1053390822991790083 [06:12:09] <elonmusk> Had to been done ur welcome https://t.co/7jT0f9lqIS [06:12:10] lol [07:29:45] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:42:21] right wing moron tweets that 'a single american started the pacific war which killed 1 in 20 Japanese' with a pic of a B-52 and the parodies are in full force [07:42:47] this is a real picture of the doolittle raid https://twitter.com/paramilipic/status/1053539759425875968?s=19 [07:42:48] à~;ƒ’×Qf¢áê«Lå,,zrn_kzÍK‰ƒ_’z2U[_noB~Šk‚ https://t.co/La5gsxIhgW [07:50:47] Please be careful throwing political words like "right wing" around in here. [08:03:35] swept wing? [08:03:44] folding wing? [08:06:12] Deddly, kubi: 'starboard wing' [08:06:40] :) [08:09:53] properly functional left and right wing help to lift bird up [08:17:09] what is this 1.5.1? [08:18:14] ah, it updated in steam too quickly [08:52:44] kubi: updated too quickly? did new update have bugs? [08:53:03] kubi, 1.5.1 fixed an aero bug that made body lift work in the wrong direction [08:54:07] lol [08:54:16] so planes couldnt fly? [08:54:27] or is it just body and not wings? [08:59:54] Wings were OK, but planes had a lot of trouble, yeah :) [09:00:21] lol funny [09:00:35] talking about flying [09:00:47] I just had idea of mod that just adds ability to start off on eve [09:01:08] its like hard mode [09:01:34] Interesting idea [09:01:50] Career mode starting on EVE... yeah [09:02:05] I'd like to see that [09:02:08] choose your planet [09:02:15] kerbin, eve, duna [09:02:23] Sun [09:02:26] Jool [09:02:36] lol jool'd be weird one [09:02:40] :P [09:03:06] Kerb I doubt there would be any discovery of star based lifeforms [09:03:11] far too energric [09:03:20] Sun: "you died". "You died". "You died..." [09:04:00] now jool is interesting, you'd have to have a floating space base, and beings would be kind thats basically gasbags [09:04:14] so very low acceration tolence maybe [09:04:46] Or microscopic? [09:05:11] Intelligent dust particles [09:05:16] yeah though I wonder how tiny lifeforms would build larger projects [09:05:28] in old game star control 2 there were fungus based lifeform [09:05:31] have you ever wondered if a rock is intelligent? [09:05:43] they lived on well pig-analog in spaceship [09:05:44] we are just firelies to them [09:06:31] screen initially showed pig. then "oh wait adjusting your view" zooms way in into pig skin with talking intelegent fungus on it talking [09:06:46] lol, nice [09:08:56] drat cant find video [09:09:08] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:10:53] there is already a mod that lets you start on eve and duna [09:11:04] there were scott videos of it [09:11:32] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asHniOZVFGw found it [09:11:36] Althego: oh lol ok [09:25:48] aha nice, i have that on legit CD [09:26:05] I liked the Dak Tak Lak Pak or whatever they were called [09:26:48] epi yeah too bad about their ending [09:27:06] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:27:49] ha yeah, well at least they got them selves off however a robot does [09:29:13] I wonder what would happen if I just waited around [09:29:32] would they get too hard to stop, or too annoying to transit to other places [09:38:57] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:12:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:36:50] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:03:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:44:38] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:44:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:52:09] Could a mod implement a mute key? [13:17:21] power button on the speaker :) [13:22:47] My amp is diagonally across the 5x7 m room and the Kappa infinity speakers are at the wall at the perpendicular diagonal. The amp doesn't have a power button, but it maybe a switch when I turn the volume all the way down, but I don't want to change the volume there. [13:23:04] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:23:16] btw ... [13:23:44] we are a week away from insight landing <-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InSight is expected to land on the surface of Mars at Elysium Planitia on 26 November 2018. [13:29:12] oh wait, i thought it was in october [13:29:22] ok then 1 week and 1 month away :) [13:48:02] That's my wonderful amp: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/M510-TDA7498-high-power-digital-100W-100W-DC-14-34V-amplifier-board-D-type-B3-007/32857483259.html [13:48:17] bbl ... cooking ... [13:57:57] hm, how does the survey scanner work? the wiki mentions it needs a polar orbit, but it never says that ingame? [14:08:56] it does [14:09:09] once you activate it it says what orbit it needs if it is not correct [14:09:16] polar orbit with some altitude [14:15:03] so it's a bad idea to just slap it on some random "put a satellite in this random orbit" mission? [14:15:53] not exactly, it needs a reasonable altitude polar orbit, and it doesnt need to be exactly polar [14:16:31] well, this mission is for a 18° mun orbit [14:16:59] no that is not ok [14:20:08] ok, then i skip the scanner and make it a relay satellite [14:22:33] Eddi|zuHause: Why not make it a latent asteroid tug, rescue vessel or similar? [14:24:00] 1500dv for mun orbit seems plenty? [14:25:11] I don't remember, unfortunately [14:25:36] IIRC you need 1100 dv or so, but absolutely no warranty [14:40:25] i'm sure i missed something important :/ [14:44:44] i wish i could add maneuver nodes while standing still, so i could figure out the right time to launch [14:54:07] hm, usually i have problems with rockets flipping over on launch, this time i can't get it to turn at all [14:54:15] hehe [14:54:21] usual com-col problem [15:11:31] it's fine, i can wait till i leave the atmosphere [15:13:13] That statement is mildly disturbing when read out of context [15:14:18] isn't that true for most statements? [15:15:39] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/503224762059980830/DSC_0008.JPG [15:16:15] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:17:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/503225077781889024/DSC_0052.JPG [15:17:25] "Deliciousss" [15:17:53] 90% of all the kitties were sleeping today [15:17:58] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/503225337665028126/DSC_0085.JPG [15:18:14] Where is that? [15:18:25] near where I live [15:18:50] called "parc des felins" [15:18:53] does what it says [15:19:01] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/503225612811370496/DSC_0101.JPG [15:19:10] Hehe [15:19:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/503225759133859840/DSC_0119.JPG [15:20:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/503225977724338181/DSC_0143.JPG [15:21:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/503226269568204840/DSC_9746.JPG [15:22:52] this one wanted to eat me https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/503226573269237760/DSC_9791.JPG [15:24:27] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/503226962404179969/DSC_9836.JPG [15:25:33] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/503227246795030538/DSC_9850.JPG [15:26:22] they had lemurs too https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/503227443772129290/DSC_9867.JPG [15:26:56] Nice, but I think it would make more sense to paste all those links somewhere, at this point. :-) [15:27:08] yeah I will make an imgur album as well [15:27:58] Lemurs are not felines, are they? [15:28:10] no but they had some because hwy not [15:31:23] Welp, I broke my mouse [15:31:34] Soft-broke, but nevertheless [15:32:15] I shouldn't have unplugged the wireless receiver from the PCs front USB port because I needed to free one up. Won't find a driver for it now :/ [15:32:16] hard broke is when you set it on fire and lawnmower it [15:32:34] also this cat was 15 meters high in the tree https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/503228943164375065/DSC_0036.JPG [15:32:56] "This cat was 15 meters high" - Okay, I don't have to read any more [15:33:10] lmao [15:33:14] it is a big cat tho [15:33:45] BRB, I will try to reboot. [15:37:37] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:38:21] Well, it didn't want to at first, but I managed to convince the mouse to work again [15:38:57] Also, thank you Fluburtur, for being the direct cause of the lemur image that popped up when I opened Chrome [15:39:30] heh [15:39:50] & did a lemur attack your mouse? [15:41:00] Rather, my computer having some sort of USB dementia. Perhaps lemurs cause that. [15:43:03] boah i hate this last temperature reading node... last time i missed it by 9km in one orbit and 12km in the next orbit (radius is about 7.5km or so), and now i missed it by 12km in one orbit and 9km in the next... [15:46:13] The careful reader will notice a small token of German culture in the preceding message [15:46:19] ;-) [15:47:56] The radius / altitude typo? [15:48:13] The "boah" ;-) [15:48:40] hm [15:48:51] Or is that English too? [15:51:06] It is not, but looked like a random exclamation. [15:51:26] it is... [15:52:53] It might be equivalent to "Grrr" [15:54:25] there is no radius/altitude typo [15:54:40] i would have said altitude if i meant altitude [15:56:08] maybe i should delete some of this debris? [15:56:28] Launch deorbit missions! :-) [16:03:55] hm, something doesn't feel right with this IFS tank having mass of 0 and impact tolerance of 100m/s [16:04:26] Probably some mod incompatibility [16:06:04] o_O [16:08:00] https://moon.nasa.gov/observe-the-moon/annual-event/overview/ [16:08:20] two mods that i installed: Interstellar Fuel Switch (+Core) and Fuel Tank Expansion Rebuilt [16:11:14] Remove one of them and see if it helps? [17:12:44] Ariane 5 is one of the "smaller" launch vehicles right? [17:13:22] Falcon Heavy is one of the smaller LVs too [17:13:28] So is Delta Heavy [17:13:44] Saturn V and SLS would be some of the larger ones. :P [17:13:54] Electron and Pegasus are toys. [17:14:08] Those are model rockets [17:14:45] are you one of those "models are not toys", and "graphic novels are not comics" guys? [17:14:49] Pegasus is small enough so you can take it on an airplane trip. [17:15:12] does it have less than 200ml of liquids? [17:15:24] LOL [17:15:24] I'm not sure. [17:15:43] It has nitrogen RCS [17:15:55] that's not liquid. [17:17:36] anyway, i would have some doubts that if you showed up at the airport they would let you board with one :p [17:18:07] Also, I'm sure it has hydraulic fluids [17:18:18] it used to be.. you didn't know if you were blacklisted for flights till you tried to go flying [17:18:23] But I don't know why the nitrogen wouldn't be liquid [17:18:47] Under high pressure it doesn't have to be 70K [17:18:49] nitrogen would have to be pretty cold and compressed [17:19:36] dunno, i haven't been on an airplane since 2000, and back then i doubt i was blacklisted :p [17:20:24] some people, who never done anything, were simply black listed because of similarities to names found on some database. [17:20:46] that is "normal" [17:22:06] also normal.. once you got on the list, even if you never done anything, getting off it was next to impossible. It also meant you were put on other black lists as well [17:22:53] US and Canada had their on lists... far as I remember, there was no means to fight it, but also know means to know if you were on it [17:24:16] APlayer: Nitrogen Critical point 126.192 K. above that it can't be liquid. [17:24:52] Makes sense [17:25:05] Requires 34 bar at that temp to be liquid. [17:25:11] fluids on a rocket? Well, I know water has been used for a few things. One of them being cooling control systems [17:25:49] Liquid fuel rockets are a thing. [17:26:04] Gases are fluids, too. [17:26:26] only for aaerodynamics people under the speed of sound :) [17:26:35] :) [17:27:37] Can you break supersonic air? [17:29:03] Fluids, not liquids [17:29:11] There's a difference. :-) [17:29:19] sand can act like a fluid [17:29:32] its not a liquid though [17:29:56] So, we should extend the definition for airplanes: "No more than 200 ml of liquid, newtonian fluids" [17:30:16] Bonus: Oobleck is allowed on airplanes [17:30:18] oldtonian [17:30:41] I know, right? Almost as nice as the past tense of William Shakespeare [17:30:42] Is tar allowed on airplanes? [17:30:56] (= Wouldiwas Shookspeared) [17:31:18] ;-) [17:31:39] :) [17:37:15] just don't ask if that includes the fluids in your own body. they may just ban you outright for life [17:38:06] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:39:24] How much water fits in my mouth? [17:42:04] 105 ml [17:42:39] Did you stand on a scale with and without water? [17:43:02] I weight a glass of water before and after filling my mouth. [17:43:04] umm.. ml is volume... [17:43:06] massed [17:43:19] Water has volume. [17:43:36] also mass... mass&volume makes density [17:43:37] 5.83 mol [17:44:06] oh right.. then there is mol.. curses [17:45:01] Mass depends on temperature and speed and gravity. [17:46:45] I already knew about mass vs weight [17:47:30] 1 ml of water ^= 1 g [17:47:42] Action: UmbralRaptop blinks at the scrollback. Are we using blood for RCS propellant? [17:48:49] mass vs weight thing.. made me realize... we going to build base on the moon. You seen how they bounce around on the surface in suits. I wonder how it'll be like, walking in a station, no suit on. Is it going to be like long slow stries? [17:48:52] *strides [17:49:24] or you going to have handrails all over the place, you have to hold on to something to walk quickly [17:49:30] It'll be like that time when you stand up in your bed suddenly and hit your head against the ceiling, but much worse [17:49:43] head through the ceiling? [17:49:54] magnetic boots [17:49:56] Worst case, yes [17:50:27] the base can have a matching Ska soundtrack [17:50:35] But I was thinking of the extra momentum you get / do not lose in the low gravity. Also, pretty sure nobody would give you more than a few 10s of cm of room above your head [17:50:57] honey on the ground. [17:51:07] oddly enough, I sleep in a loft bed... ceiling just above my head when I sit up [17:51:31] I guess I keep forgetting when you say 'bed'.. its way down on the floor [17:52:49] my camper though is worse... roof right there nearly. Yet, I never had problems getting up. Mind you.. I'm fairly small.. 'ish... [18:09:29] https://66.media.tumblr.com/bbed6df557388ce0f642735d08c09589/tumblr_owkrosfohL1use6ffo2_540.jpg [18:17:39] the new season of the expanse is rather nice [18:18:39] the spaceship trickshot was amazing [18:18:58] almost did a mistake on "spaceship", that would have been bad [18:26:28] Fluburtur: oi you [18:27:16] Fluburtur: hon hon baguette Eiffel tower [18:27:52] lmao [18:28:09] Fluburtur: so I did some research on the new french plane in WT [18:28:44] you saw the germans are getting a french heli [18:29:32] yeah [18:29:35] not surprised [18:29:51] an alouette 2 even [18:29:54] Fluburtur: I expect the gazelle at some point too [18:30:03] for Brits and french [18:30:05] big nice un armored glass canopy, everything on the outside [18:30:08] no armor at all [18:30:15] I flew on one of those once, was nice [18:30:21] to be fair, heli armor doesnt do much [18:30:28] true [18:30:54] and it was a recon where they put guns for whatever reason too, not a gunship [18:31:15] Fluburtur: anyways, none of the armament etc on the MB. 175T is french and I find that funny [18:31:34] idk what guns is on it [18:31:39] hispanos I guess [18:31:43] Fluburtur: 151s [18:31:45] german [18:31:47] lel [18:31:58] the mg151 are very nice tho [18:32:13] german guns, german torpedo, american rockets, a british radar and if they gave it its depth charges, those would be british too [18:32:14] I got the ta152H and 109k4 recently [18:32:29] they are decent but still stock [18:32:31] Fluburtur: the 151s will be useless, too far apart [18:32:42] and I played the 151 a lot with the dora and the narval [18:32:43] the 151 tail gun wont hurt thi [18:32:45] tho [18:32:52] is there a telescope arm thingie that i could use to make a comm tower? [18:33:38] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/eu0Mmmxc/Screenshot_20181020-143319_YouTube.jpg [18:33:45] Fluburtur: that convergence tho [18:33:50] yeah [18:33:52] its gonna be insane [18:34:06] with the fock wulf with wing root guns I put no convergence [18:34:11] or 800m if anything [18:34:18] Fluburtur: imagine 50 meter convergence, it would look crosseyed [18:34:24] yeah [18:34:33] good for biplanes I guess [18:34:42] or when you have a mk108 because you can't aim beyond that [18:36:02] Fluburtur: I think it will be ok for ships. possibly if they implement radar for the world war mode or whatever [18:37:29] Fluburtur: did I ever link you the videos I shot of the WW2 era Le Rhône 9J engine firing [18:37:39] from that ww1 air show I went to [18:37:39] no [18:37:46] oh maybe yeah [18:38:41] Fluburtur: in a Fokker DR.I [18:38:44] https://youtu.be/mlk63J4W_Mo [18:38:44] YouTube - September 27, 2018 [18:40:03] it sounds like it wants to die but it's also a pretty cool and unique engine sound that you just dont hear these days [18:40:40] anyways, they made the engine for the MBs, because of course they did [18:53:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:44:41] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [19:44:41] Sup [22:34:56] hm. planning a minimus ground base, wondering how to get around collecting science [22:38:09] Valentina landed on the launchpad with a parachute. [22:38:13] from orbit. [22:41:19] Action: darsie does a 16 MVF contract. [22:42:29] val is a way better pilot than jeb! [22:45:11] Jeb sneaked into a rocket destined to a 4 billion year orbit around the Sun ... [22:45:42] Now he can prove how long he lasts without food, water, air, ... [22:45:55] that means he can safely watch it exploding [22:46:47] Yeah :) [22:47:15] Map 20 asteroids threatening Kerbin with an inclination greater than 39. 16 MVF reward. [22:48:15] what's mvf? [22:55:59] mega virtual funds [22:57:06] Now I have 38 MVF. [23:43:17] https://i.gyazo.com/ad89dd2247ff0a12eafd60e18b894993.png - Wanted to see how one of my largest fighters does against one of my smallest [23:45:04] How did it go? [23:46:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:46:58] Well first one was a scratch because the bigger one collided with each other before and one dunked the other one. [23:48:11] that sentence does not parse [23:50:32] Annnnnnd the AI sends one up to 15K+.....oy [23:51:15] i don't think we're even playing the same game [23:52:40] Is there a height limiter in BDarmory so they don't do that?