[00:05:03] <UmbralRaptor> Dust. Dust everywhere. https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=7164
[00:36:51] <Guest55635> what version do I install on a student chromebook?  1.4.3 Away with words MK2 or 1.3.1 Away with words....thanks for your help!
[00:37:19] <Azander> 1.4.3
[00:37:43] <Guest55635> okay...thank you so very much!!
[00:46:59] <Zarthus> a chromebook can run ksp?
[00:49:10] <Azander> beats me
[00:49:24] Action: UmbralRaptor is confused, but apparently. 
[01:41:22] <Draconiator> well the newest Chromebook has these specs...Intel Dual-Core N3060 1.6 GHz, Up to 2.48GHz, 4GB DDR3L 1600 MHz; 16GB eMMC storage. SD card reader, No Optical drive 
[01:41:25] <Draconiator> so maybe..
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[02:05:02] <Neal> here's some very interesting info about the x15 flights as well as the lifting body concepts tested on the b52 mothership http://www.air-and-space.com/nb52/Balls%20Eight%20History%20of%20the%20Boeing%20NB-52B%20Stratofortress%20Mothership%20eBook.html
[02:06:13] <Draconiator> https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/4ad6d92c-851e-3002-a6ed-9d27f2677363/ss_silver-airways-passengers.html - This is on my bucket list lol...never be able to check that off.
[03:28:34] <Draconiator> Trying to hack into my own xBox...I forgot the name I used for the profile I accidentally deleted.
[03:44:11] <Draconiator> PHEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW....I had an old backup on my computer and my old profile was in it...that's a relief...
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[05:33:16] <Draconiator> http://www.nskmicro.co.jp/english/products/products04.html - Holy cow look how tiny this thing is.
[09:45:41] <Rolf> I found something faster than light.
[09:46:16] <Rolf> it was surprising simple. 1: get a flashlight, turn it on and stand it so light shines upwards.
[09:46:34] <Rolf> 2: videotape it. 3: play it on tv, then go fast forward.
[09:47:00] <Rolf> done.
[09:56:29] <darsie> You can also move your finger on a solar system map from the Sun to Earth in 1 s.
[09:57:07] <Truga> wat
[09:57:52] <Truga> https://i.imgur.com/PRE3rLz.gifv
[09:58:54] <Rolf> gifs that require players suck
[09:59:06] <Truga> players?
[09:59:08] <Rolf> dar yep lol
[09:59:10] <JCB> what the.... coulda just shot the door directly..
[09:59:18] <Truga> rip yellow girls legs, too
[10:00:19] <JCB> how to contain a beam of light in easy steps... first: mess with phsyics
[10:38:25] <Althego> https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/1009014925493075969
[10:38:25] <kmath> <marcan42> I thought this was a joke. Î  Î It wasn't a joke. Î  Î https://t.co/5CKhMOBTSK https://t.co/M0MJIIlm4Y
[11:58:19] <sandbox> take a look at the steam reviews
[12:03:13] <sandbox> must've been a temporary glitch
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[14:26:10] <UmbralRaptor> Asteroid https://twitter.com/haya2e_jaxa/status/1009771333465432064
[14:26:12] <kmath> <haya2e_jaxa> Ryugu seen from between 220 ~ 100 km. Are we seeing the history of the asteroid etched on its surface?& https://t.co/AxSb5x7mUZ
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[14:30:30] <ve2dmn> it's a CUBE!
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[15:07:44] <UmbralRaptor> Small asteroids/comets are weird. 
[15:08:43] <ve2dmn> Weird to us. They don't care
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[15:13:07] <Fluburtur> I started using mercury today
[15:13:11] <Fluburtur> this stuff is nice
[15:13:18] <Fluburtur> feels like a gel because it is so dense
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[15:32:39] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/a95d540453be63a66ff1e4fe0ed7ddce/tumblr_o9fvrzKv7k1qgh75xo1_540.jpg
[15:33:41] <Althego> hehe
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[15:39:53] <Fluburtur> also is no one about to say anything about me playing with mercury?
[15:40:28] <ve2dmn> No
[15:40:38] <Althego> did you link a new video?
[15:40:46] <Fluburtur> you are just so used to me doing weird stuff
[15:41:02] <Fluburtur> btw tomorrow I will grab a bottle of nice toxic stuff used in high voltage transformers
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[15:41:14] <Althego> hehe
[15:41:18] <Fluburtur> can resist to up to 1100°c and used as isolator
[15:41:22] <Althego> oil?
[15:41:26] <Fluburtur> not exactly
[15:41:30] <Fluburtur> lemme link you
[15:41:39] <ve2dmn> I don't remember the name of that stuff, but once it explodes it's spectacualr
[15:41:44] <Fluburtur> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polychlorinated_biphenyl
[15:41:46] <Althego> zelda me? :)
[15:42:15] <Fluburtur> this thing is forbiden since 1987 so I need to grab some while I can
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[15:43:35] <ve2dmn> BPC / PCB... I should have known
[15:44:19] <Fluburtur> I think it should be safe in a regular plastic bottle
[15:44:49] <Althego> your next goal must be udmh
[15:45:01] <ve2dmn> or RP-1
[15:45:10] <Althego> no, that is not toxic
[15:45:23] <ve2dmn> Devil's venom then?
[15:45:25] <Fluburtur> they had acid that could melt glass at work but they don't use that anymore sadly
[15:46:06] <Fluburtur> they also have that for low temperature thermometers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toluene
[15:46:55] <Fluburtur> up to -200°c I think
[15:47:06] <Fluburtur> mercury can't go that low because it freeze before
[15:47:23] <Althego> in a video some guy made a mercury bell
[15:47:30] <Althego> it doesnt sound very good
[15:47:48] <Althego> because apparently temperature changes how object sound
[15:47:56] <Althego> and for it to be solid it had to be cold
[15:48:02] <Fluburtur> yeah
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[15:59:31] <Fluburtur> wow apparently I can make TNT with toluene
[15:59:50] <Fluburtur> just need to mix with nitric acid and heat it up
[16:02:06] <UmbralRaptor> Don't blow yourself up. 
[16:02:14] <ve2dmn> ^
[16:03:13] <ve2dmn> And try to stop making weird stuff before you get to 'Very Fast Death Factor (VFDF)'
[16:03:32] <ve2dmn> Or the Devil's Venom
[16:03:35] <Fluburtur> nah the police will knock on my door before then
[16:04:02] <Fluburtur> the french wiki article doesn't talk about the use in thermometers
[16:14:36] <ve2dmn> Cloud saves!
[16:14:38] <ve2dmn> https://steamcommunity.com/games/220200/announcements/detail/1707309779221658486
[16:14:52] <ve2dmn> Changelog: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/176077-kerbal-space-program-144-and-making-history-13-launching-today/
[16:15:11] <ve2dmn> * Added Steam cloud support for saves (Career, Science and Sandbox) and craft files, as well as helper files.
[16:15:29] <Fluburtur> willt his make sharing crafts easier?
[16:15:32] <ve2dmn> It's missing mods, but it's a start!
[16:16:01] <ve2dmn> sharing? no. It's just for things that you move from one computer to the next
[16:17:09] <Fluburtur> I prefet keeping all my crap on my computer
[16:17:14] <Fluburtur> so I can edit saves and stuff
[16:19:33] <ve2dmn> I have KSP on 3 computers: Linux, Win10, TVPC 
[16:19:45] <ve2dmn> In each case for different reasons...
[16:22:10] <Pakaran> Morning
[16:44:56] <Althego> what, today?
[16:56:51] <UmbralRaptor> gaah
[16:57:25] <Althego> hehe
[16:57:34] <Althego> now look at what you did
[16:57:43] <Pakaran> ok, it's afternoon, even here
[16:57:51] <Pakaran> but it's morning somewhere.
[16:58:21] <UmbralRaptor> So, the topic is missing from my scrollback& 
[16:58:37] <Althego> Topic for #KSPOfficial is: Kerbal Space Program 1.4.3 official channel | Rules: http://archive.is/5bp8u | PM ops as needed | ”V map: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png | Making History expansion on sale: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/kerbal-space-program-making-history-expansion
[16:58:45] <UmbralRaptor> thanks 
[16:59:43] <Mat2ch> yay, no more RedShell! :)
[16:59:57] <Althego> do you think so?
[17:00:04] <Althego> probably no change in that
[17:00:14] <Pakaran> anyone care to sanity-check this for first in space/first in orbit?  I'm planning to launch with the first (swivel) stage throttled very low, for more like a 90 sec total burn time, so the listed delta-V is conservative
[17:00:15] <Pakaran> https://imgur.com/a/zKSmphE
[17:00:15] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/h56RyOI.png
[17:00:21] <UmbralRaptor> Wait, why is it 1.4.3 in the store? 
[17:00:33] <Althego> because 1.4.4 hasnt hit yet?
[17:00:37] <Pakaran> still need to add science, but if that increases mass significantly, I'll just add a couple tonnes of fuel to the swivel
[17:00:54] <Althego> they usually release around midnight utc +- few hours
[17:01:28] <Pakaran> Think I read that the Steam sale is starting today.
[17:05:17] <Althego> hehe curiosity is going to laser the dust in the air
[17:05:24] <Althego> or did already
[17:07:00] <Pakaran> looks good, did add one more FL-200 for my peace of mind.  
[17:08:01] <Pakaran> I feel like even with KEI, I'm jumping the gun a bit going for orbit on my second launch, but couldn't think of an actual reason not to.  I can always get some of the Gael (Kerbin analog from GPP) biome science opportunistically landing.
[17:08:29] <Althego> i usually have to hold back on the first to not orbit :)
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[17:09:47] <Pakaran> yeah, looks good.  if not, that's what reverting is for, lol
[17:13:51] <BenjaminK> Okay guys ,what is red shell and why did they remove it?
[17:14:55] <BenjaminK> holy shiy
[17:15:00] <BenjaminK> oh god
[17:15:15] <Althego> hehe, you are lucky, typo saved you
[17:15:32] <Fluburtur> the mb157 is so good in war thunder
[17:15:38] <Fluburtur> baguette planes good
[17:15:44] <BenjaminK> Red shell is spyware
[17:15:52] <BenjaminK> they had to remove spyware
[17:16:08] <BenjaminK> Why the hell was there spyware in the first place?
[17:17:10] <APlayer> May I drop a friendly reminder to avoid bad language here? Thanks. :-)
[17:17:45] <Althego> ever so vigilant
[17:17:55] <Fluburtur> yeah APlayer is good mod
[17:18:12] <Althego> you can almost hear some superhero music
[17:18:20] <Fluburtur> heh
[17:18:26] <Althego> as his cape is blown by the wind
[17:18:36] <APlayer> I have this on loop for the last few hours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2phMet-Gdhc
[17:18:36] <kmath> YouTube - Most Emotional Dramatic Music: The Call
[17:19:35] <UmbralRaptor> No capes! 
[17:19:41] <Althego> hehe
[17:19:52] <Althego> to avoid the rockets and jet engines and tornados
[17:20:23] <APlayer> Althego: Also, let me be honest here - most of the time, it's Mod9000 that alerts us of certain keywords being used in here. I just happened to drop by right now, though. ;-)
[17:20:23] <Althego> fly safe!
[17:22:15] <ve2dmn> Steam sale and stuff
[17:22:25] <ve2dmn> down for me right now
[17:22:44] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX8fGCCPcp0
[17:22:45] <kmath> YouTube - Predator On The Road
[17:33:16] <Draconiator> Steam just downloaded a KSP update.
[17:34:07] <Althego> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/176077-kerbal-space-program-144-and-making-history-13-launching-today/
[17:35:52] <Althego> still only 1.4.3 for me in the store
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[17:39:18] <Althego> hmm they really did remove redshell
[17:39:51] <ve2dmn> It wasn't worth it the value probably
[17:40:17] <ve2dmn> ^ I have trouble typing completed sentenses it seems
[17:40:17] <Althego> so it really did turn into spayware as people were afraid
[17:40:44] <Althego> sentences :)
[17:40:51] <ve2dmn> Althego: it involved a lot of games... I could find the list if you are curious
[17:41:44] <ve2dmn> Althego: wait... you are hungarian, right? Did I show you the video of the guy who makes the annoncement in 13 languages?
[17:44:49] <Althego> yes
[17:44:58] <Althego> didnt have time to look all the weay through
[17:45:30] <ve2dmn> I can't identify the last 4 languages (except Japanese)
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[18:00:23] <Althego> i cant help you there
[18:00:38] <Althego> i recognized the japanese
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[18:05:35] <ve2dmn> :/
[18:13:22] <Fluburtur> I got a bottle for my dangerous chemicals
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[18:24:34] <transitbiker> bwoop
[18:24:41] <Fluburtur> bwoop
[18:25:09] <Fluburtur> transitbiker it needs a name https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/413826781590716419/457978770213830687/DSC_9204.JPG
[18:25:10] <transitbiker> is 3 degrees below ambient temp good for cpu cooling?
[18:25:16] <Fluburtur> yeah
[18:26:16] <transitbiker> what about 6 degrees? this is standard air cooling no modifications
[18:26:29] <Supercheese> >* Removed Red Shell.
[18:26:32] <Supercheese> oh good
[18:26:39] <transitbiker> hello cheese
[18:26:53] <transitbiker> a name... hmm
[18:27:26] <transitbiker> broken boomerang, because it has that mend but i only flies away from you
[18:27:30] <transitbiker> bend
[18:28:14] <transitbiker> or the triple f, flying foam + fins
[18:29:24] <transitbiker> let me look into something real quick
[18:31:54] <Fluburtur> actually not a name for this plane in particular but the whole series
[18:31:59] <Fluburtur> it's a new model im making
[18:32:11] <transitbiker> armstrong
[18:32:40] <transitbiker> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armstrong_Whitworth_A.W.52
[18:33:06] <Fluburtur> eh
[18:33:12] <Fluburtur> not weird enough
[18:35:30] <transitbiker> hmmm
[18:35:53] <transitbiker> well it was going to be an airliner but never got past the prototype scale model phase
[18:35:58] <transitbiker> -looks more-
[18:37:26] <transitbiker> YB49'er? :D
[18:37:44] <Fluburtur> idk a simple name is more nice
[18:38:03] <Fluburtur> like "oh yeah this is a _____"
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[18:38:18] <Althego> boomerang
[18:38:54] <Fluburtur> I guess
[18:39:08] <transitbiker> chevron
[18:39:18] <Supercheese> huh, $2.50 for a Steam Link
[18:39:26] <Supercheese> 95% discount
[18:39:56] <transitbiker> i got ya steam right here
[18:40:07] Action: transitbiker lifts lid off pot of boiling water
[18:40:26] <Fluburtur> hah
[18:40:31] <Althego> still only 1.4.3 for me
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[18:40:51] <Fluburtur> transitbiker this was the first flight of the plane btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSoZqwqtu50
[18:40:52] <kmath> YouTube - R 20 maiden
[18:41:09] <Fluburtur> I decided to resume the R series designation but I have no idea where I stopped so I started back at 20
[18:41:14] <Althego> i thought there would be some girl
[18:42:02] <transitbiker> what kinda motor is that
[18:42:23] <Fluburtur> electric
[18:42:28] <Althego> this r 20 has a faulty motivator :)
[18:42:29] <transitbiker> i mean model etc
[18:42:42] <Fluburtur> 2212 1400kv
[18:42:48] <Fluburtur> does that help?
[18:42:50] <transitbiker> brushed dc?
[18:42:54] <Fluburtur> brushless
[18:42:59] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqVNGSh-8Wo
[18:42:59] <kmath> YouTube - SW: Bad Motivator
[18:43:37] <transitbiker> how many poles does it have?
[18:44:09] <transitbiker> sounds liek 3
[18:44:11] <transitbiker> like*
[18:44:15] <Fluburtur> yeah
[18:44:20] <Fluburtur> they use 3 wires
[18:44:36] <transitbiker> the more poles, the smoother it runs
[18:44:53] <Fluburtur> then I think it is 11 or 14 poles
[18:45:08] <Fluburtur> 3 wires but different numbers of "electromagnets inside"
[18:45:17] <Fluburtur> but those are not made to run smooth but fast
[18:45:22] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255748182426910720/459428493877313536/DSC_9206.JPG
[18:45:25] <Fluburtur> also there was 
[18:45:30] <Fluburtur> 3d printed crap on it
[18:45:39] <Fluburtur> but it ran very smooth, more than I expected with that on it
[18:46:39] <transitbiker> hmmmm
[18:47:18] <Fluburtur> kinda gives it a golden era look with that sort of pod
[18:47:32] <transitbiker> the ones with a more fine tuned wiring and pole setup has more of a woooorrmmm sound vs a vreeee sound, if you know what i mean
[18:47:36] <transitbiker> yes
[18:47:41] <transitbiker> "streamlined"
[18:47:45] <transitbiker> brb
[18:49:16] <ve2dmn> 100% off: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/shadowrun-returns-deluxe
[18:53:29] <transitbiker> back
[18:53:39] <transitbiker> so i made a thing
[18:54:09] <Supercheese> Yay free game on Humble -- oh wait, Steam is dead so I can't redeem the key
[18:54:16] <Supercheese> bleh
[18:57:19] <transitbiker> its basically a flying engine
[18:57:43] <ve2dmn> At 95% discount it's really tempting
[18:57:52] <ve2dmn> (for the steam link)
[18:58:08] <ve2dmn> anyone has it?
[18:58:23] <Fluburtur> can't they do that on the vive?
[18:58:34] <transitbiker> im going to livestream some ksp
[18:58:37] <transitbiker> been too long
[18:58:45] <Fluburtur> should send you stuff then
[18:59:53] <Althego> lazy squad, where is my 1.4.4
[19:01:33] <transitbiker> https://gaming.youtube.com/channel/UCZuDQkMA5GF3Jh29ElK3-uQ/live
[19:01:37] <Althego> hehe http://www.tested.com/art/makers/833769-hobby-rc-restoring-vintage-model-wright-flyer/
[19:02:02] <Althego> it has wings
[19:02:12] <Althego> you can build a star wars pod racer
[19:02:17] <Althego> two engines, no wings
[19:02:57] <Althego> hehe the winglets almost eexploded
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[19:15:37] <Althego> hah, here it is
[19:20:59] <Fluburtur> well there is a steam worksop for ksp now
[19:21:04] <Fluburtur> will have to send a few of my planes
[19:22:10] <transitbiker> you seeing the stream? o.o
[19:22:15] <Althego> hehe i accidentally downloaded the japanese expansion
[19:22:34] <Supercheese> Well, here's hoping the new update doesn't break mods...
[19:22:36] <Althego> i was watching it for like half a minute :)
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[21:23:07] <Pakaran> hi.
[21:33:52] <NGC3982> so, i have been playing surviving mars for a few days now
[21:33:56] <NGC3982> and i bare no more.
[21:34:33] <Supercheese> How is it?
[21:34:38] <Supercheese> Been seriously thinking about buying it
[21:35:39] <NGC3982> i would suggest you dont
[21:35:50] <Supercheese> ah, bummer
[21:35:52] <NGC3982> the game has so much potential, but none of that is used in the game
[21:36:05] <NGC3982> you build some water, some power, some oxygene
[21:36:17] <Supercheese> Needs some good mods to be developed, eh?
[21:36:19] <NGC3982> and a dome, and then eventually you either die or nothing changes
[21:36:23] <NGC3982> yes, it does
[21:46:15] <Draconiator> I'm starting to think most games are deliberately released unfinished so modders can get ahold of them.
[21:49:30] <NGC3982> im so bored
[21:49:56] <NGC3982> i cant play more oxygen not included stardew valley terraria factorio cities skylines kerbal space program.
[21:50:00] <NGC3982> i need something new
[21:50:36] <KrazyKrl> It's more like "Management did not care about the complexity of the project, and forced it out the door underbudget and unfinished."
[21:50:46] <NGC3982> yes.
[21:50:51] <KrazyKrl> 90% of the time, a problem with a project is a management problem :(
[21:55:57] Action: NGC3982 refuses but does not seem to be able to say no to openttd
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[22:19:29] <FLHerne> NGC3982: Why refuse OpenTTD?
[22:20:20] <NGC3982> it was some time ago, but i think i have like 2-3000 hours trough the years
[22:21:54] <FLHerne> Ah
[22:22:28] <FLHerne> FTL?
[22:22:47] <FLHerne> Although that does get quite repetitive after a while
[22:31:28] <NGC3982> i might try it
[22:38:13] <Pakaran> No nodes yet.  
[22:38:31] <Pakaran> When do I want to start my circularization burn?  I'm thinking 30 sec ahead, maybe 40 to be safe?  https://imgur.com/a/qSmNBBm
[22:38:32] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/y4QybxP.png
[22:42:18] <Pakaran> actually, never mind... looks like I put almost too much fuel in this stage, lol.  
[22:47:51] <NGC3982> FLHerne: doesnt look like my cup of tea.
[22:50:26] <NGC3982> i tried rimworld, and it was fun for a while..
[22:53:23] <FLHerne> Have you tried not-computer-games?
[22:53:35] <FLHerne> I started ringing church bells, it ate all my free time
[22:56:53] <NGC3982> hehe
[22:58:37] <FLHerne> Like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvFaHdkmx44
[22:58:37] <kmath> YouTube - Plain Hunt on 6, Chesterton
[22:59:09] <FLHerne> (that's where I was three hours ago, and also seven years ago when we filmed it, but I was behind the camera then)
[23:00:07] <FLHerne> You can ring fun things like https://rsw.me.uk/blueline/methods/view/Wells_Surprise_Minor.png?scale=2&style=grid
[23:01:21] <NGC3982> oh my
[23:01:35] <NGC3982> how does one get that as a hobby
[23:01:55] <NGC3982> i mean, are the clock itself an interest, or is it a church thing? :)
[23:03:14] <FLHerne> Definitely for the interest, I stopped staying for the services years ago :P
[23:04:54] <FLHerne> It's a church thing in that churches have nearly all the bells
[23:05:25] <FLHerne> But really, the deal is that we ring before the services, and they let us ring strange things at other times
[23:05:59] <FLHerne> A few places insist that ringers must also attend the services, but they often have trouble finding enough
[23:08:49] <NGC3982> cool
[23:09:45] <FLHerne> Not an easy hobby to get into outside the UK, though :P
[23:10:24] <FLHerne> The US have a few dozen towers, a few in Australia and single-digits everywhere else
[23:10:32] <NGC3982> i know ive seen some posters about them trying to get together here in sweden
[23:10:36] <FLHerne> (at least, for this sort of ringing)
[23:12:27] <FLHerne> In that case, your nearest change-ringing tower is probably Dordrecht, Netherlands :P
[23:12:33] <FLHerne> And that's in someone's house... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgm_-olvSQM
[23:12:34] <kmath> YouTube - Change ringing in Dordrecht
[23:15:41] <FLHerne> But you could ring handbells https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-yI6j7QPMQ
[23:15:42] <kmath> YouTube - Change Ringing on Handbells - Double Helix Major
[23:18:51] <NGC3982> cool!
[23:19:36] <NGC3982> that last one is very beautiful
[23:19:42] <NGC3982> it reminds me of steve reich music
[23:23:05] <FLHerne> Hadn't heard of him
[23:23:10] <FLHerne> These are nice :-)
[23:24:35] <FLHerne> (listening to 'Electric Counterpoint' now)
[23:26:03] <NGC3982> drumming part 3
[23:27:03] <NGC3982> ah, there we go
[23:27:16] <NGC3982> the thing that reminded me was 'music for mallet instruments'
[23:27:41] <NGC3982> 'music for mallet instruments, voices and organ'
[23:29:01] <KrazyKrl> ThatOneGuyWithAGiganticWoodenMalletInAnOrchestra.gif
[23:33:08] <FLHerne> I can see why he called it that
[23:33:24] <FLHerne> It's also very nice
[23:33:25] <GurrenLagannCWP> Hey guys
[23:33:32] <FLHerne> Not sure about the voice part, though
[23:37:27] <Pakaran> going out on a limb and guessing that time to periapse going UP means that we are coming down on this pass, even if current deceleration is tiny?  https://imgur.com/a/Kx5sbhF
[23:37:27] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/JUMzhnh.png
[23:37:50] <Pakaran> incidentally, I have to remember the front-mounted supply containers for drag stabilization on reentry :)
[23:38:17] <GurrenLagannCWP> Now forum user The Minmus Derp recommended me a Mac - but they cost OVER 9000 of my currency
[23:39:13] <FLHerne> I wouldn't get a Mac these days
[23:40:16] <GurrenLagannCWP> Well now things in Brazil are 4 times as expensive as in the USA
[23:40:35] <GurrenLagannCWP> And 5 times more expensive than in the UK
[23:40:43] <FLHerne> Apple laptops used to be unbeatable, but they really aren't anymore - the other manufacturers have non-bendy-plastic models, and Apple keep compromising on important things in favour of thinness
[23:41:25] <FLHerne> Those numbers can't both be true, all tech stuff is more expensive in the UK than the US :;-)
[23:41:54] <Azander> Apple is no better (hardware wise) than about 3 years ago PC hardware
[23:41:57] <FLHerne> Oh, unless this is a joke about 'over 9000' and exchange rates
[23:43:21] <Azander> US apple system runs between 2000 and 4000 new
[23:43:35] <FLHerne> Well, literally; they haven't updated the Mini since 2014
[23:43:40] <Azander> yep
[23:43:58] <Azander> even the MacBook Air is 2-3 years out of date
[23:46:46] <GurrenLagannCWP> FLHerne, here: https://www.apple.com/br/macbook/ - its actually OVER 9000
[23:48:18] <Pakaran> what?  what?  
[23:57:34] <KrazyKrl> Apple has quite a few anti-competative practices going on (stuff that if it happens in the car industry now, are federal crimes).