[00:32:51] question: if I had some graphical mods, like the clouds one, would it mess with an already in-progress game? [00:33:25] well, more I've been playing, not adding it while its actually running on the computer thing.. [00:33:45] it's probably fine [00:35:05] k... for as much as I've been trying to keep to stock, I wanna do some recording but starting to crave a little extra 'niceties'. [00:35:45] the only real problems are when you modify or remove a part that is already used by a mission in flight [00:36:28] the next lower issue is when you add certain mods that change the physics, previously successful designs might not work anymore [00:37:02] not sure I'm going to add parts.. yet. [00:37:14] although KIS.. could pose some problems [00:37:34] Action: JVFoxy currently making a copy of game.. this'll take a bit [00:39:22] I'll run a test later.. don't think I'm ready for KIS anyways. I'd like to use the Surface exerpiments pack/mod but sorta need pilot(to get there) mechanic(to set things up) and scientist(to run things) [00:43:12] or... CKAN can just got wonky and say I don't have premission to access it any more. :\ [00:59:09] uuf... that was seriously annoying [01:02:55] which gives clouds? Seems the one I'm looking at, astronomer's visual pack isn't compatible.. or won't let me install [01:14:58] CKAN is definitely one of the wonkiest programs i've ever used [01:23:17] also my OS doesn't like playing nice sometimes [01:32:54] cross my fingers this works... [01:37:29] well.. works, but slow. suppose I picked too high texture :P [02:19:19] JVFoxy: EVE + config gives clouds. I have used https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/151190-16sci-fi-visual-enchancements-v-15-high-performance-alt-to-sve/ in the past but there are other packs [02:19:46] my GPU cooling isn't up to the task, though, so I disabled most enhancements [02:26:02] packbart oop.. sorry taking so long. Found out something I did made game slow pretty badly.. [02:28:33] I have EvE.. but config? [02:28:46] turns out there are some other dependancies... [02:31:21] ya... scatterer and EVE really chewing out my game speed it seems [02:34:01] Scatterer probably more than EVE [02:34:42] I wish I knew how to run KSP in a profiler thingy so I could see how much time it spends in each mod [02:36:47] you just had Eve? [02:36:53] not sure I get this cfg thing [02:37:18] I looked into scatterer, seems its not compatible with current ksp.. or even 1.7. so maybe thats whats messing things [02:39:59] I had EVE + the SciFi Visual Enhancements textures and configs. gives Minmus some nice colored dust [02:40:24] had astronomor's visual pack... just ripped out out again [02:40:35] along with scatterer [02:41:14] ok nope... [02:45:24] and one day I'll figure out how to use Kopernicus' "debris field". that might be a way to put fishies into the oceans. let Kopernicus materialise fish meshes "orbiting" near the active vessel, from center to sea level [02:45:45] hmm... first I thought you could just get clouds.. but it also has some ground texture alla like an old version of flight sim.. egh [02:47:32] that's probably configurable. everything is [02:49:36] you mentioned cfg.... [02:49:54] not exactly sure where to find? Or is that already built into the AVP zip? [02:55:23] well, I downloaded the ZIP from https://www.dropbox.com/s/zr7e0gwpesctzho/SiFiVE-1.5.zip?dl=1 and there's a directory SciFiVE-1.5/GameData/ScifiVisualEnchancements_Dust/ in there with a .cfg file for EVE and textures [02:56:41] I meant SciFiVE-1.5/GameData/ScifiVisualEnchancements_Clouds/, not _Dust/. D'oh [02:57:18] whoops.. I whiped out terrain texture.. everything's white now [02:59:58] ok now not sure how to revert it [03:02:09] maybe some texture file not in the expected location? the log might help [03:02:33] alt+f4.. restart, its back [03:02:55] you need to put the files exactly where the modder intended them to be or it won't work. texture paths are all relative to the GameData directory [03:04:07] zip files just has a gamedata folder [03:05:00] I mostly wanted to remove the city texture and lights that came with AVP/EVE [03:05:26] scatterer would have been nice but some reason it causes the game to choke on it badly [03:15:32] uff.. ok need a break from messing with things [09:50:31] this is annoying, what is the new name? https://2007or10.name/ [10:01:05] They want to formally submit it first. [10:01:53] but what is the result of the vote [10:02:04] at least they could have updated it [11:29:39] maybe it's planet mcplanetface and they're trying to suppress it? [11:35:56] imagine they make a presidential election, but then don't announce the results until inauguration [11:46:06] no, there were predefined choices [11:53:43] (pfffft, wimps!) [12:37:48] third week of working at an online game company: I found the chat word filter list [12:54:11] ouh, now it's getting interessting. ;) [12:54:19] Any weird stuff on it that doesn't belong there? [12:57:13] hehe [13:34:18] Mat2ch, what's funnier is to see what's commented out [13:36:30] ...I just realized that these lines are commented out because they are "stuff that doesn't belong there" [13:38:03] for example talking about killing is apparently okay after all in a game where you defeat hundreds of NPCs every hour [13:41:47] the game never actually asks you to kill anything, but if animals can drop their fur, they probably don't always survive the encounters (they are explicitely shown to sometimes survive however) [14:34:16] wait, what? They drop their fur, but survive? Doesn't sound healthy... [14:36:42] Mat2ch, I assume in that case they don't [14:43:02] Ah, I thought they did some weird game logic there ;) [17:48:44] i've no clue what game this is about, but i'm faily sure they have some weird game logic going on :p [17:49:37] undead fur [17:59:18] https://twitter.com/KerbalSpaceP/status/1130615555663302658 [18:03:47] well... still wont buy, because I'm mad that they now bring the robotic parts and we only asked for them since forever. :| [18:08:54] where are my tourist contracts [18:09:05] there was one, but then it magically vanished, and none since then [18:10:11] In the accepted folder? [18:10:41] no, among the offered [18:11:04] Maybe expired. [18:11:14] no, all were hours away [18:11:49] You can get new ones. [18:12:01] it just doesnt give me new ones, thsoe are easy money [18:12:34] wait till tehy expire and check again. [18:18:24] this whole situation is crazy [18:18:46] there was one game where i never got rescue contracts [18:19:46] sadness [18:23:16] I get enough money with First Record Society contracts till I wait for multimillion contracts with IR telescope. [18:25:08] but I loved rescue contracts. Easy, fulfilling. [18:27:40] not with hard mode settings, money is always short because of the building upgrades and the part unlocks [18:28:36] ok [18:50:50] conduct observational surveys of kerbin near bobak's doom [18:53:47] that's it i am going to skew the weights to get a tourist contract [18:56:08] sell out... [18:56:25] normally it start to appear in like the first hour [18:56:34] and i am almost in the 3rd now [18:57:33] i still have to fulfill some contract to get a new one [18:57:34] spaceflight for the peasant? not on my watch [18:57:52] i would very much like to go to space [18:58:02] :) [18:58:05] maybe the prices go down in a few decades enough so that i can afford a suborbital hop [18:58:08] before i de [18:58:10] die [18:58:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:59:09] Yo [18:59:56] by that time i would rather invest in uploading my mind to the super hive Mind [19:04:37] Mindvest [19:51:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v Hikaru' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:53:24] and i got 6 survey contracts (not feasable), 2 polar orbits far away (not instant money), 1 escape trajectory (no other choice) [19:53:41] even with the increased weight on tourists [19:55:08] and i have less than 3 hours remaining from the first day. and i usually launch my first manned moon orbiter and lander at the end of the first day [19:55:22] impossible this way because the 30 parts limit is still there [19:55:35] and no way to make money. what would be the tourists [20:07:07] in a bit of a rush? [20:14:56] Althego: escape trajectory contracts are fun. You have to leave barely the system, then you can burn backwards, let yourself get caught and return ;) [20:15:10] i dont do that [20:15:13] probe, abandon [20:15:22] it will crash back after a while to kerbin [20:18:49] at least with escape from mun or minmus, can bring it back [20:19:33] I usually don't take oribital satellite contracts unless if it'll be use to me, (read: to place a relay) [20:21:38] i always repurpose all satellites contracts to relays [20:22:44] lol.. still remember the one contract, told me to return a mun relay.. I had two in orbit.. [20:22:57] 'those things are expensive!' part of it said [20:24:08] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:26:30] I'm finding cash isn't such a big concern for me when it comes to building and launching stuff. though does dictact when I can upgrade certain things.. [20:27:56] finally 4 tourists [20:28:36] i tell you wen you get half the contract money and you also have to pay more for the building upgrades, and there is fee on activating parts, money is a concern [20:29:14] especially if i want to upgrade 3 buildings in the first day, launch a guy with full science towards the mun (polar orbit, all science and land) [20:29:57] I'm also not trying to cram everything done into one day [20:30:47] I'll fly something from tier0 SPH out to each the poles for a little science [20:34:11] other objective objectives catch the end fof eve launch window before day 5, and launch a fully equipped probe to duna out of window so t hat it arrives there around the window (day 230) [20:34:50] requires huge delta v and launches perpendicular to the orbit of kerbin [20:36:01] ouch [20:36:07] probably why I never seen that window before [20:36:30] sounds like you basically shooting at eve, using a ton of DV [20:36:40] the eve one is easy [20:36:53] the problem is that the tech is just not really there yet [20:37:04] the duna one is harder [20:37:17] I tend to be on the conservative side [20:38:51] one of my 'true spaceships', I launched to orbit with partial fuel. it have been too much weight for the pad at the time. The booster was already pretty crazy, by my standards [20:50:20] and another survey contract [20:51:41] maybe if i reload and complete it again :) [20:53:32] ok i have collected enough science to get the airplane parts, so i can at least roll to one of the survey contracts. [20:53:43] but that again takes a lot of money, those parts are expensive [20:54:01] but i didnt want to spend science on the airplane parts yet [20:54:20] usually i buy them late, because almost no use [20:54:26] and the survey contracts take a lot of time [20:55:58] don't know.. I've used two Mk1 command pods, set of mk0 fuel tanks, junos and intakes. Built a crazy thing that lets me get to the mountain tops for science. Trouble is.. its a challenge to keep from just slamming into the ground sometimes [20:56:25] get up there, the other nearby biomes are a cakewalk to get to [20:56:53] i have a pre built plane for this purpose [20:57:07] but needs those plane parts [20:57:47] curious to see a pic.. compare to what I've been using [20:58:20] have to copy it there not useful yet [20:58:39] and it contains a few parts that are not available, remove those, etc [20:58:41] so not now [21:02:37] i should go to bed now, but some isekai mangas were updated [21:04:46] oh.. [21:04:49] k lates then [23:33:37] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net