[00:00:26] Two of them flew out of bounds...and the other two crashed into the water. [00:00:42] weirdest competition ever o_O [00:06:06] your tiny plane is huge compared to smallest I ever made [00:06:50] your tiny plane could stow my plane in it probably lol assembly needed of course lol [00:21:14] so, how do i build a rover that fits in the K&K garage? [00:22:50] Kaiser und koenigliche? [00:27:30] those too [00:27:50] habsburgs can into space [00:30:55] also, if i put a garage-to-base-adapter on the garage, the resulting attachment point is off-center :( [00:41:20] i probably need to assemble the rover on site :( [00:47:25] thats sounds like a krakenfest [00:58:42] Hey ya'll [00:58:45] Long time no see [00:59:00] how are you? [01:00:07] good. you? [01:00:09] i finally released kerbalism 2.0... what a long road [01:00:41] I've got to drop a class. working 25-30 hours a week and taking four classes is too much [01:01:15] oof [01:01:36] I don't know what I was thinking [01:04:10] ow [01:06:25] I finally setup a Matrix server [01:12:37] hm, there's flow priorities, but i can't seem to set them up so when i dock the one battery empties and the other one fills, only which one to drain first [01:13:57] also, there's no way i get around minimus safely with this rover, i barely manage to test drive it on the runway [02:10:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:26:07] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:20:17] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [10:20:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:34:17] https://www.instagram.com/p/BpFyBD2hmL5/ cat cannon in the face [10:54:13] aha awesome [11:15:45] this elevator I just used goes up to 8, and then R [11:16:37] and because I'm stupid, I actually went directly from 8 to R [11:16:53] however, nothing exploded [14:59:03] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCDoeCZgAfY [14:59:03] YouTube - Planet Formation as Told by Kepler [15:14:57] ooh, CfA& [15:17:07] hehe superpuffs, funny name [15:48:17] oh.. they meant Kepler the space telescope. i was wondering what a guy 400 years ago would have said about planet formation [15:48:34] hehe [15:49:01] i thought the title was obvious, because of all the exoplanets by kepler [15:49:32] this type of stuff gets less obvious the broader your target audience is [15:52:08] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VGZ8DGkiyc [15:52:08] YouTube - Exclusive look inside the world's newest rocket factory! [15:52:56] they still didnt make their first commercial launch [15:53:15] "it's business time" still does not have a date [16:03:44] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFC71rFejvo [16:03:44] YouTube - Moonlight (Clair de Lune) 4K Version - Moon Images from Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter [16:26:19] I noticed a rocket to get some angular momentum when the power ran out. Is that a bug or a feature? So it has a chance to get some light on the solar panels? [16:29:51] why should it do that? [16:30:21] remember when asymmetric flameout was a thing? turned out to be a bug, but i liked it because it produced some realism [16:48:11] btw stayputnik is so shiny. i always wanted more shiny parts but they just didnt make them that way [16:56:07] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-53kaP6dZeI [16:56:07] YouTube - STRAPPED INTO A SINKING HELICOPTER (with U.S. Marines) - Smarter Every Day 201 [16:56:49] i knew helicopter in water is kind of bad, but this looks worse than that [17:28:23] hi [17:28:41] great juujuu on the mountain? [17:30:00] what do you mean when you say on the mountain ha? [17:30:23] https://youtu.be/rWtuTrHSPfY [17:30:23] YouTube - jaguar startup sound [17:31:13] it was a reference to dawkins, but i cant link it because of the theme involved [17:41:04] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hShHaGxQUt4 [17:41:05] YouTube - TeV Gamma-ray Astrophysics [17:51:52] thought so [17:56:19] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKR1JamvqA [17:56:19] YouTube - Hybrid Jet Engine - Update 2.0 [18:18:13] is there exploding airsoft BBs [18:18:18] or metal ones [18:18:29] ... that would be so wrong [18:18:34] lol [18:18:43] it is for shooting one rc plane with another [18:18:58] you are not supposed to seriously hurt people in those jobbies [18:19:05] h [18:19:17] I just want to shoot down a rc plane using another [18:19:18] I still wouldn't want either.. problem with metal is, it carries momentum more than plastic [18:19:42] the planes in question won't be damaged enough for plastic ones [18:19:46] I sorta doubt you'd be sniping planes from long range ;P [18:19:56] or maybe some that act like paintball so I can see the impacts [18:20:04] just use paintballs instead [18:20:09] too big [18:20:21] guys at flitetest did it [18:20:23] I want to put a airsoft mg that fires throught he propeller shaft [18:20:29] even rigged up a romote camera [18:20:30] like real WWII planes [18:20:43] motorkanone [18:21:07] I've seen scale model navel battles.. they use something akin to airsoft stuff [18:21:35] could always build planes from balsa and tissue paper [18:21:44] go old school [18:22:30] it is for using with my foam planes [18:22:33] like the VG [18:22:41] foam wings and plastic fuselage [18:22:50] metal ones could punch nice holes in there [18:23:03] and exploding ones, not sure how hard they explode but could do nice stuff [18:23:31] I also wanted to cook some nitrocellulose for stuff [18:23:37] let's say, big fireworks [18:25:52] I don't think it is illegal to make [18:25:58] otherwise you would have to ban battery acid [18:25:59] then i'd rather see you use metal... just be sure to keep the combat off out of the way, even small metal balls can carry a good distance. Lot heavier. [18:26:20] exploding ones... run the risk of it exploding in the barrel.. [18:26:28] yes metal generally doesnt set the surroundings on fire [18:26:46] eh, probably won't have enough energy to pop once they touch the ground [18:27:03] guess I will order some metal, some explosive and some paintball BBs [18:27:08] plus... given the amount of force you hit the ammo with, you usually hit the target with slightly less force due to friction [18:27:13] the madmen flying rc planes shooting exploding bullets around, that would get the police involved [18:27:25] there is no police here [18:27:47] there will be after you set everything on fire [18:27:54] nah [18:27:56] is winter soon [18:28:20] are we talk'n exploding bullets or exploding balls? [18:28:31] exploding airsoft BBs [18:28:42] that are meant to be used for actual airsoft stuff [18:28:45] so they can't be that bad [18:29:50] may as well be trying to shoot off missles.. [18:30:09] missile threat missile [18:30:21] I'd say... just try it out with regular stuff. You might actually find its pretty hard to hit something [18:30:33] yeah [18:30:37] they already did that [18:30:53] but I have some training already doing dive attacks on the plane my friend is flying [18:31:25] air combat can be something of a mess at times [18:32:35] I know [18:32:49] (han solo) [18:33:01] we don't plan on doing something complicated at first, just him flying a straight line and me trying to line him up [18:37:43] also I borrowed an arduino joystick from my friend so I can make a gimbal for the fpv camera [18:37:50] so I can look around while flying [18:44:43] i don't know, but "exploding BB projectiles" sounds too close to real weapons for me [18:46:00] what happened to the paint idea? surely if regular paint balls are too big, you can put less paint in smaller projectiles [18:46:21] yeah those exist too, just need to find good ones [18:50:05] also, aren't modern anti-aircraft wepons not anymore about hitting the plane directly, but scattering a cloud of debris in front of it, like with the MH17 shootdown? [18:50:20] yeah but im flying WWII planes [18:50:32] and the best for those is high explosive rounds or incendiary [18:50:43] HE being the fastest way to remove wings [18:50:48] but I jsut want visible hits [18:50:58] high explosives, drunken explosives :) [18:51:16] heh [19:01:02] so are there not-even-once explosives? [19:01:37] There are low explosives. Does that count? [19:01:47] nitrocellulose is one [19:15:44] sounds like exploding paper :p [19:16:19] it pretty much is [19:16:36] explodes to gaseous products [19:16:42] vanishes completely [19:16:43] as I understand, mix equal parts nitric and sulfuric acid and stir cotton or paper or anything cellulose in it [19:16:57] but it degrades over time [19:17:03] that is why magicians like it [19:17:06] I don't plan on storing htat for a long time anyways [19:23:49] Hi - I need help, could you help me remove some of my craft? The part is: EVAMechjeb, is attached to the SN-01 portable container. This part must out, cause the craft don't open DD: [19:23:53] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aU5X9e-9xy3x1PwYrb5RnaZ01MK06F_w/view?usp=sharing [19:59:21] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:12:40] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [20:12:40] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7D62nEjw8A [20:12:40] YouTube - TAP Speaker: Konstantin Batygin October 1, 2018 [20:15:28] !!! [20:19:51] ummm https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/7lc39nWu/Screenshot_20181021-161858_Chrome.jpg [20:22:20] ya-10 [20:22:41] i fail to see the "ummm" part [20:22:42] ya rly :) [20:22:53] I have a weird relationship with the ad-4 in war thunder [20:23:03] it works amazing but it is equally ugly as it is good [20:24:02] is it weird that the f4u7 is one of my fav high tier props in the french tree? [20:24:05] these A-10s look funny [20:24:07] other than the vb-10 [20:24:23] Fluburtur: it's not weird, you just like superior american power [20:24:29] 1 out of 3 is the real one :) [20:24:52] I must admit the an-m3 are good and it flies extremely well [20:25:07] but I have managed to get it into flat spins when doing snap rolls at low speed [20:25:08] The a-1 helped inspire the a-10,right? [20:25:56] maybe the heinkel 129 given they are the only two close ground support aircrafts [20:26:06] rugged and big gun [20:26:07] UmbralRaptop: they are in there because the wiki article talks about them and shows them because of the A-1 and Cheyenne's inspiration and effect on the design [20:26:37] Ah [20:28:25] UmbralRaptop: still weird that they are the first pictures appearing tho [20:28:30] Rokker give me one rare, unusual and unknown american airplane from WWII that would do a good rc model [20:28:55] oh god [20:29:25] Fluburtur: XP-75? [20:29:37] XP-55 or 56? [20:29:56] the 55 isn't that rare [20:30:12] but the 75 is something [20:30:26] kinda looks like the vb-10 [20:30:58] the XP-55 is rare [20:31:12] it is in war thunder tho, I need more rare [20:31:18] Fluburtur: the Airacuda? [20:31:29] Fluburtur: I want the XP-75 in WT [20:31:38] what even is this think [20:31:58] even more ridiculous than the turrets in the engine nacelles of the bv 238 [20:32:14] pre-war experimental design [20:32:16] I love it [20:32:17] you people are weird, you talk about planes like normal people talk about train engines... [20:32:36] heh [20:32:56] normal people dont talk about train engines [20:33:05] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:33:08] that's. the. joke. [20:33:26] I have known some train nerds [20:33:40] hehe [20:33:45] people who like trai s generally seem about as autistic as I am, except I focus on cool stuff [20:33:49] like rockets and planes [20:33:50] those are way worse than anything else [20:33:50] i've definitely been around train people more than plane people [20:33:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:34:21] trains. moving on tracks. at least get to ships, those are bigger and move freely [20:34:30] also i've been around trains more than planes [20:34:35] only two dimenssions tho [20:34:35] but obviously planes and rockets are way more awesomse [20:34:43] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:34:52] Fluburtur: trains are 1 dimensional really [20:35:11] I was talking about boats [20:35:28] ah [20:35:29] yes, thsoe are 1 dimension better than trains :9 [20:35:37] nothing more soothing than parallel lines [20:35:44] nah [20:35:47] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:35:53] UmbralRaptor: i [20:35:54] oi [20:36:58] io [20:37:08] yoyo? [20:37:26] despin [20:37:29] yoyos, the fidget spinners of the 80s and 90s [20:37:35] UmbralRaptop: why do you keep disconnecting [20:37:44] what is the rubik cube of today? [20:37:51] Eddi|zuHause: yoyos were actually cool [20:38:00] you can do lot of things with yoyos [20:38:07] UmbralRaptop: oi [20:38:07] rubik's cube is far too hard for today's market [20:38:08] not so much with fidget spinners [20:38:48] Rokker: was walking out of Wi-Fi range. [20:38:55] hehe [20:39:08] difference is that yoyos are skill-based, wheras fidget spinners are purely meditative [20:40:05] UmbralRaptop: try walking into it instead [20:40:26] i invented that more than 2 decades ago, when i was spinning a c64 floppy disk motor in school all day [20:41:00] and anything the rubiks cube filled that isn't about the hardcore nerds that still use them today was filled by mobile games [20:41:02] Althego: my equivalent was tearing open a dead hard drive [20:41:42] fortnite mobile is the new rubik's cube [20:41:48] oh how far we have fallen [20:42:05] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1053390822991790083 [20:42:05] <elonmusk> Had to been done ur welcome https://t.co/7jT0f9lqIS [20:42:09] this is just too funny [20:42:37] how is that not an april 1st tweet, anyway? [20:52:30] hehe accidentally ran into this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_zbL8A6_3Q [20:52:30] YouTube - Fortnite Sword in Real Life BURNS EVERYTHING! [20:55:56] i don't think i want to click on that [20:57:19] i really liked the working zarya gun they built [20:59:57] great... there goes /everything/ now... [21:02:34] i must say the stellaris soundtrack works well with KSP :) [21:03:03] I used to use QuakeII soundtrack for playing total Annihilation.. :P [21:03:21] you are an idiot [21:03:29] total annihilation has one of the best soundtracks ever [21:03:37] Great game [21:03:43] and yes, great soundtracks [21:04:20] too bad the same guy couldnt make an equally good soundtrack for supcom [21:04:32] probably wasn't allowed to [21:04:38] what [21:04:49] maybe for good music now he requires more money :) [21:05:20] lol [21:05:50] I still love TA.. listened to the ingame at times, ya. Other times I wanted something a little more hardcore [21:05:54] some companies 'decide' the sound/music long before they bring in somone to make them [21:06:06] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Soule [21:06:41] but i need to sleep [21:08:05] now, i got a ground base (some assembly required) and a rover (that probably won't work well in low-grav). how to put all that on minimus? [21:09:31] I set a relay sat in polar orbit... mostly because of a seperatron sub orbital test contract. only to end up reverting it after i done it.. ugh [21:11:57] sounds... wrong [21:12:38] hm, total mass of this payload is 40t, what kind of rocket do i need for that... [21:12:49] and maybe i should do two launches and combine in orbit? [21:18:58] hm, i might be able to do this in one go [21:25:42] I can do a 30-35 ton payload with a fairly simple rocket [21:26:58] my rockets don't ever seem to be "simple" [21:27:39] but my last (updated with new engines) rocket seems to be capable of that [21:31:22] Eddi|zuHause: You coud refuel in orbit. [21:31:25] could* [21:33:19] need to figure out the landing part now [21:33:50] Eddi|zuHause: Rule of thumb, you need about 3300 m/s dv to orbit. [21:34:28] KER says 3.9 with fuel in the last stage, 4.3 without [21:34:55] That is with vacuum Isp. [21:35:20] I mean 3300 m/s. [21:36:03] yes, 3900m/s [21:36:58] first stage loses about 200m/s if i flip to atmo [21:37:17] second stage should fire in space [21:38:33] optimal trajectory is very shallow. [21:39:21] So my first stage never makes it to space. [21:39:28] that's why i need more than 3300, i'm never really going that shallow [21:40:43] what i usually do is push my AP somewhere near 70000 and then turn sideways for the remainder of the first stage, usually after the boosters burnt out [21:41:15] sideways? [21:41:44] then i put a maneuver node at AP (which should be in space) for the second stage burn to enter orbit [21:47:42] http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot122.png has 3727 m/s dv "vacuum" and had 460 m/s left in orbit: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot121.png so it took 3267 m/s. I didn't fly very shallow, so it could have been better. [21:48:39] yes, but that is not a 40t payload :) [21:49:01] yes, but the dv you need to orbit does not depend on payload. [21:49:43] yes, but the rocket that reaches that dv does :) [21:49:50] So you can build a rocket in the VAB and if it has about 3300 m/s dv it may make orbit. [21:50:22] yes, and i have built a rocket, and it says 3900dv... so? [21:51:18] Should make orbit. Unless it has very low TWR and thus high gravity losses. [21:52:57] Doesn't mean it's enough to go to Minmus, insert orbit and land. [21:54:31] the nuke engine stage has about 1500m/s, and the landing stage i'm still building [21:56:26] Now I flew pretty shallow and have 571 m/s left in orbit, so it took 3156 m/s to orbit. [21:59:05] You can also fly too shallow, if the air drag is too high or important stuff explodes. I used rockets where the aluminium fins exploded and that was ok. They were no longer needed and it saved mass. [22:00:17] Sometimes not all of them exploded. That was bad as the rocket was not balanced any more, then. [22:01:18] anyone here seen venom yet? [22:02:55] i haven't seen a marvel movie since... thor 1? 2? [22:34:42] ok, there's no way this is going to work, but i do it anyway :) [22:37:13] sandbox mode, i hope [22:44:07] so tired of superhero movies [22:45:20] if 1500 m/s of your 3900 m/s rocket is nuclear [22:45:25] i can see why you might be having trouble getting to space [22:45:42] whats the twr on that nuclear stage [22:45:55] no, the 1500 is on top of that 3900 [22:46:01] oh ok [23:12:50] uhm, game acting up... (swapping?) [23:15:24] also, i have no sound anymore... [23:19:56] .. doh [23:32:14] btw, why does the game say "expansion loading complete" when i don't actually have the expansion? [23:36:37] glitch? [23:38:22] how can the startup screen glitch? [23:39:43] weirder things known to happen [23:39:50] beyond that.. got me.. no idea [23:40:09] Design flaw? [23:43:08] uhm, so this thing wobbles a bit too much for my taste :p [23:50:00] a shake and a shake... ermm.. [23:50:42] Eddi|zuHause: Maybe it loads all the expansions in a loop and after that says "expansion loading complete".