[04:55:19] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/251822595723362306/437476296063320064/Screenshot_20180422-005408.png is this legit? He's done crazier things. [05:05:29] I just noticed that's the upper stage. this is the craziest thing he's done so far. [08:48:52] Blaank: why shouldn't it be not? :D [08:50:25] Blaank: a big baloon will slow down the second stage pretty fast in the upper atmosphere. If it's designed right it will also act as a (steerable) parachute. And then everything get's catched by an air filled cushion [08:50:34] *caught [08:50:35] Someone could photoshop or fake tweet stuff by him and I'd have no way of knowing but stumbling around and going through twitter's horrid website to find the actual post. Easier to ask here. [08:50:55] he realy tweeted this [08:51:20] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/985654333860601856 [08:51:20] <elonmusk> This is gonna sound crazy, but & [08:53:17] quite old [09:00:21] yes, but Blaank wanted the source [09:00:31] I hope this will be streamed live :) [09:00:44] probably far from happening [09:01:11] they couldnt yet catch the fairing [09:01:41] and this should be a lot harder [09:02:12] probably no prpulsion on the way down like the first stage, because of the very little fuel remaining and vacuum optimized engine [09:14:50] Also the whole screaming along at 7 km/s problem. [09:16:42] It'll be a very slow breaking manouver, no real reentry. They probably will fly for a long time through the upper atmosphere [09:16:58] i doubt that helps much [09:17:12] once it gets lower it starts to slow down really fast [09:17:22] so it doesnt really matter if it is 7 km/s or 6.5 [09:18:47] If KSP is anything to do with IRL then a "slow braking maenuver" quickly turns into a re-entry. [09:19:04] in real life too, see tiangong [09:19:08] Even using lifting body you lose orbital velocity you start falling. [09:19:35] you just have to bite the bullet and survivet he heat [09:19:40] And depending on starting altitude you could easily pick up a km/s of velocity on the way down. [09:19:43] no other way [09:21:55] re-entry is not pretty. [09:23:02] it's all a matter of lifting body size and weight [09:23:13] if you're light and have a huge lifting body you will not burn [09:23:27] but slow down enough [09:24:43] Do we have anything similar as an example? Orbiter fuel tank? [09:29:08] I think nobody has ever tried what they're going to try... [09:29:38] I'm thinking about RSS and a huge ball of wings to try it... [09:29:58] the nasa ldsd may be something similar [09:30:13] a balloon that slows the craft down [09:31:52] but that's no party balloon [09:32:27] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaGyD7gKAaw that in much much bigger could work [09:32:48] heh septerra core is a slideshow on win10 [09:33:07] i guess i have to break out the laptop again for it. rathr not [09:33:15] at least this keeps me from playing it again [09:42:35] RIP Septera Core. [09:43:12] What's going on is it's rendering on your CPU cause it can't find a GPU. I'm pretty sure that's what's going on. Unreal Gold did that till I installed an unofficial patch. [09:43:32] ehmm, there were not really any gpus around at that time [09:43:39] it is even 2d [09:43:53] A modern CPU should crush that render load. [09:44:00] But they seem to really suffer from it. [09:44:18] i7-7700k running at 5 fps. [09:45:18] Unreal was designed for the Voodoo and "GeForce" graphics cards. [09:45:35] GeForce and GeForce 2 were listed in the install instructions. [09:47:06] Septerra Core probably just needs to be updated to support modern GPU interfaces. [09:47:28] worked on win7 [09:56:18] hehe they say they delete quicktime and then it works [09:56:23] but then no cutscenes [09:56:31] ok, those havent aged well [10:05:19] They don't play worth a damn anyway. [10:17:23] hi guys [10:17:58] is there any way to put part options as a stage? [10:18:25] like, fold out landing struts on stage instead of using a hotkey. [10:19:07] you can put anything on stage, however that is used in a silly way, they trigger every time you press pace, which is not what anybody wants [10:21:10] i don't really understand such questions - it is much faster just to slap that on in VAB and hit launch to see for yourself [10:21:44] generally you cant put stuff on a specific stage, unless the part supports it [10:21:45] also you can set them the SAS/RCS activation [10:21:55] like decouplers, heatshields, etc [10:25:50] for example i usually want to deploy solar panels on a specific stage [10:25:54] but they dont support it [10:26:53] as some parts do, it wouldnt be so hard to generalize this to all parts that have kind of mechanism [10:31:43] yes, that's what im on about [10:33:31] for instance, i want to limit the debris spacex-style when i launch stuff, so it would be cool to put landing strunts, fins and parachutes on boosters. on that specific stage, it would be cool to deflect them from the space craft with fins, and then land them with the parachutes [10:33:36] and so on [10:33:37] dgvoodoo fixes the framerate [10:34:06] supposedly they started a collaboration with gog, so maybe some later i can have an official version [10:49:38] heh it leaves a dgvoodoo watermark in the lower right corner [10:50:16] ok needs to be disabled manually [10:50:32] it is not for spoiling the fun but for indicating that it works [12:02:13] dammit my KSP install keeps crashing and I don't know why.... [12:03:07] The KSP.log and outpu_log.txt are mostly useless [12:08:48] KSP_x64.exe caused an Access Violation (0xc0000005) [12:27:48] I kinda want to get this and make it rc https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Air-Hogs-Titan/282915056936?hash=item41df0d2d28:g:z1YAAOSwFHNayFJv [12:53:36] uh why don't I have some nice rapid plaster [14:09:12] I cooked a new rocket but i really need to get decent plaster for the nozzles [14:10:37] Dessert Airfield [14:12:41] Fluburtur: that's just a glider? [14:12:52] yes but it's big and cheap [14:13:07] and I wanted to turn a toy glider into a proper rc plane for a while [14:13:12] who still buys and flies gliders? RC stuff is so cheap [14:13:43] I have a friend who often gets cheap and bad plane rc toys and makes them proper [14:13:55] hehe [14:14:22] they are actually somewhat good, just need better electronics [14:14:29] like old rc models [14:14:51] the wing I got that was made in 2005 flies very well on modern electronics [14:18:10] They did make good rc planes in the past and some are still in production, but yeah, electronics are getting better and better [14:18:47] when I started 2.4 GHz was already available, but very very expensive. Try to find some 35 MHz gear nowadays [14:19:07] yeah [14:19:14] and I remember how they were talking about how bad 2.4 GHz is, with all the other users on the frequency [14:19:21] you can get 5GHz now too [14:19:26] nice [14:19:31] how's the range? [14:19:33] lower frequencies are still used on boats and submarines [14:19:44] but those guys are complaining about it being hard to find too [14:19:48] I dunno, I'm not really knowlegable on radios [14:19:54] It's good enough? [14:19:58] yeah, especially subs need a long wave to get their signals [14:20:15] or cna do like real subs and have the antenna drift on the surface [14:20:16] I only know because my grandpa was a dealer for DJI and some of their quads use a 5GHz signal [14:20:32] yeah dji uses their own thing [14:20:38] It's still sad that they didn't let us use digital signals on the 16 MHz band. That would be epic :D [14:20:44] 5.8ghz is used for fpv video signal but it's analog [14:21:27] I still need to come get your plane and boats [14:21:40] unless you come here first heh [14:21:59] well I planned on going to germany for flite fest europe but not much news on that [14:38:34] I think I will try epoxy glue to hold the nozzle in the rocket [14:38:43] I only have metal epoxy but it should work [14:38:44] any rocket test? [14:38:50] soon [14:38:58] sooner than falcon heavy at least [14:39:05] hehe [14:41:03] why don't I have solid vaseline [14:41:15] that stuff is great to lubricate molds to have an easy release [14:42:05] guess I could put some sort of oil on the 3d printed mold [14:43:03] i think what you are talking about is mould [14:43:14] mold is something that grows under humid conditions :) [14:43:24] that sounds backward [14:44:25] mold is the fungus that turns food green [14:44:42] guess I need to make up some word then [14:45:03] and agent moulder had some ancestor who worked with moulds :) [14:52:15] mhhh epoxy glue smells nice [14:53:32] cant imagine that [14:55:38] I think tis one has a good chance of not ejecting the nozzle [14:55:52] will still put screws to retain the nozzle if the glue fails [14:55:57] hmm, smell of fresh hydrazine in the morning :) [14:58:46] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/413109312802521098/437628300404195329/DSC_2488.JPG [15:04:33] apparently EPP and EPO foam aren't resings that foam up but rather pellets you need to heat up with moisture [15:04:59] Hello there [15:05:08] yo [15:05:12] are you a foam expert [15:06:07] I'm here also right concerning mod quenstions? [15:06:23] just ask [15:08:13] ckan doesn't let me add certain mods, how can I fix this? [15:09:41] idk [15:09:45] someone else might help you [15:10:16] Althego entropy 7 test fire in 1 or 2 hours [15:11:10] will 7 be the lucky number [15:11:34] what is with those eyepieces [15:11:45] it is pieces of pvc tube [15:11:48] Thank you anyways.. [15:14:31] What KSP version do you use, if I may ask? @ Flubutur [15:19:20] 1.3.1 and 1.4.2 [15:21:12] Anotgoodastronaut: is it possible that the mod does not support your KSP version? [15:21:57] I'm trying to get run RSS but it doesn't start after game launch. I've just the stock system [15:22:51] You need KSP 1.3.1 for RSS/RO, what's your KSP version? [15:23:09] I've 1.3.1 installed yet. [15:31:20] so you've got two problems? [15:31:28] Doesn't start and you can't add certain mods? [15:32:28] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:35:59] Anotgoodastronaut: I installed RSS via ckan and the game runs fine [15:38:00] When RSS is installed the game hangs a bit after load [15:38:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/437637743208562690/20180422171908_1.jpg [15:39:43] so, what's the nozzle doing? Still drying? [15:39:55] is done [15:39:59] im preparing the test rig [15:41:28] So you we're going to see a test firing today? :D [15:41:37] You should live stream them. ;) [15:42:13] eh I would need to put a whole electrical system to my garden [15:42:20] and wouldn't be very impressive [15:43:29] it's all about the show ;) [15:43:39] You need an announcer, a countdown, etc :D [15:47:47] Hey guys [15:49:32] soo any ping timeouts [15:49:39] use a client guys [15:49:44] many* [15:49:50] ... [15:50:17] has someome made multiple accounts? [15:51:06] Thank you, Olympic1 :) [15:51:15] Hiiiii [15:54:27] Esper had at least one server drop so people are slowly dropping of the network, and connecting to different servers. [15:55:26] I guess 4gb Ram is not enough for RSS? Its still loading [15:58:02] depending on your computer it can take up to 10 minutes... [15:58:31] but 4 GB Ram is very low [15:59:21] sounds like an old computer? [15:59:54] Its a laptop [16:00:14] with almost real solar system it worked pretty fine... [16:02:40] well that test wasn't a success [16:02:52] nozzle too large, not enough back presure this time [16:05:06] I will keep the current design but make the nozzle smaller [16:05:22] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:06:13] Fluburtur: but no explosion? [16:06:27] not enough presure for explosions [16:06:34] Sad :/ [16:06:39] the rocket even stopped burning and I had to restart it [16:07:23] I have another mk3 nozzle ready so I will try to make a full hollow core design [16:07:25] might work [16:08:37] yeah this one generated a whole 11 grams of thrust at peak [16:08:50] and that was probably from the ignition charge [16:09:13] hey [16:09:37] someone took my name [16:10:38] Hi Fluburtur [16:11:33] Oh oool, Anotgoodastronaut has a commparable pc to mine [16:11:44] cool* [16:11:54] just a bit stronger [16:12:01] mine? [16:12:02] :D [16:12:06] yeah [16:12:37] An I thought I am the only 'insane' who tries to play big mods on such a rig [16:12:55] mine is 3 gb ram with a AMD-Amptrom proccesor [16:13:00] yeah [16:13:11] once tried OPM [16:13:17] it wont load [16:13:29] then i saw... Out of Memory [16:13:38] :O [16:13:52] celeron N3060^^ [16:14:16] let me check [16:14:47] yeah [16:14:53] Its 1.60GHZ max. rate is 2.48 [16:15:10] rip my pc gets dwarfed again [16:16:21] uhm, I got a five year old FX-8350 and KSP runs painfully slow sometimes [16:16:44] I really need some new customers so I can upgrade to a Ryzen 2 :P [16:16:50] Does it still run on 32bit? [16:16:55] yes [16:17:12] It still runs on 32-bit [16:17:30] but i use 1.3.1 since i'm stuck [16:17:51] Maybe it will be fixed... [16:17:54] hopefully [16:18:49] 2.8 GHz [16:19:00] a bit stronger [16:19:09] Mat2ch look at this https://youtu.be/xUB4R9J7Iq0 [16:19:10] YouTube - entropy 7 test fire [16:20:50] Thats akward, almost real solarsystem works so nice, but RSS not [16:20:56] I don't get it [16:21:59] it is not burning so well [16:22:16] Wait [16:22:26] ARSS works for you? [16:22:32] Yes. [16:22:33] if I revert to the 7mm nozzle it might work better [16:22:47] Action: GurrenLagannTSS downloads the ARSS mod [16:22:56] although I fail to get into orbit with ARSS [16:23:06] because Kerbin is slightly bigger [16:23:49] HyperEdit for life [16:23:53] the lowest periapsis was -500,000 metres, sooo close.. [16:23:57] :D [16:24:25] -0 [16:25:26] https://youtu.be/-wyGxI7L2xQ [16:25:26] YouTube - entropy 7 high speed [16:25:36] look how dirty that burn is [16:25:38] any Idea how I can edit the atmospheres? [16:26:06] would like to set the atmo in ARSS a litlebit deeper than 70kms [16:35:54] https://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1ivopfHIe1r2q0z9o1_540.jpg [16:38:20] Gurren, does work ARSS also for you? [16:39:04] Not tested yet [16:39:26] Still downloading [16:42:51] damm CKAN [16:44:10] is there a stock sized Real Solar System? [16:44:39] it wouldnt be real solar system at that size [16:45:12] I think there is, but the size is an important difference, so& [16:51:33] There is, its called SSRSS [16:55:29] One question about the SSRSS version [16:56:06] ckan tells me that its made for 1.3.3, but steam only offers 1.3.1, will it work? [16:56:34] Yes, because 1.3.3 doesnt exist [16:57:13] Thats weird, I can't select it [16:57:33] SSRSS continued [16:57:47] I can [16:58:02] IDK why you cant [16:58:11] SSRSS continued its called [17:01:09] Weird, i can select it... [17:01:22] Yeesh, any of you have a cat and have to clean the litter box? I think you can weaponize that stuff......worst smell ever [17:05:38] can apparently pick up some parasite that they're starting to think changes behaviour a bit too [17:29:21] Notagoodastronaut, ARSS works for me [17:36:33] Nice! [17:37:40] Is it possible to edit the names of the celestial bodies without messing everything up? [17:46:00] Maybe [17:46:30] Hey Ezriilc! [17:47:29] Hey! [17:47:40] Greetz, ya'all. [17:47:53] How are you and HyperEdit doing? [17:48:23] We are well, thanks. Howz you? [17:48:49] Great! [17:49:08] I think I'm almost ready to publish our current BETA-3 as a final release. [17:49:59] Yaaay! [17:50:23] Hype! [17:50:35] hehe, I'm glad you're excited. ;) [17:52:56] I downloaded the ARSS mod [17:53:20] Time to have some more fun [17:54:06] I'm sort-of pretending to be a real boy today, so ping me if you need anything. [17:55:52] Ok! [18:04:58] Trying OPM + ARSS [18:12:08] what is OPM? [18:14:41] outer planets mod [18:14:46] also one punch man :) [18:17:08] I'll give a try [18:20:56] Fluburtur: yeah, looks good, but no force... [18:25:53] nah it doesn't even look or sound good [18:28:47] at least I think gluing the nozzle with epoxy is a viable idea [18:30:09] I kinda want to cut this one in half [18:32:33] do it for the research points! :D [18:37:07] well I destroyed the nozzle [18:37:14] but I found out why it didn't work very well [18:37:18] fuel was wet [18:37:30] need to cook it more next time [18:42:41] https://youtu.be/38aFKc7Y3EY?t=79 that looks like a fairing? [18:42:59] yeah [18:43:32] also the robot is under the F9 [18:43:40] and somehow securing it [18:45:32] well I didn't see the video but I guess automated leg welder [18:48:23] you really thing it's welding itself to the ship? [18:48:38] well the dudes had to weld the legs to the ship before [18:48:45] then unbolt the legs and lift the rocket [18:49:13] if i can get a probe to orbit and return from mun.. safe to say can easily do same thing with the same craft around minmus? [18:50:10] yeah [18:50:24] I suggest KER and a dV map. But since Minmus has much lower gravity it should be possible to use the same craft [18:50:41] minmus usually requires less dv than mun [18:51:36] I know about the landing part... but ... [18:52:00] sorta skipping over the landing part. [18:52:43] doing a stupid challenge with myself... seeing how far along I can go before I /have/ to upgrade VAB... [18:52:49] there's a dV map in the topic, let me see :D [18:53:09] yup, it's less to orbit [18:53:41] I had to laugh, trying to get to the mun, without upgraded anything, not even patch conics.. don't know if you actually going to hit mun SOI till you actually there. [18:55:35] minmus... well considering its so far out, takes quite a bit of time, almost have to get the 'flight planning' part.. [18:56:17] ok well that extra DV, I can use for slowing down, don't wanna burn up on re-entry last minute [18:57:00] I made a nice ion rock hopper for low gravity bodies such as the mun and lighter [18:57:10] I tested it so I should do an actual mission with it [18:58:32] ... one of the early versions, I launched and landed a 1 person ion sail ship on the mun... [18:58:54] mind you... think I had like 12 ion engines c_c; [19:20:51] mine has 6 and two solar panels [19:21:09] one good thing about weather being warm, I can open the window of my room and blast music [19:21:27] hope the neighbors like listening to RATM at midnight [19:23:11] I wonder how loud my big amp can actually get [19:23:30] it's a 2x 30watts with a pair of 10" speakers so probably very loud [19:23:49] running it at like 1/4 of the power is already apinfully loud in my room [19:33:59] 30 W? You will kill your speakers... [19:34:24] well for once this isn't something I built [19:34:48] but it's jensen speakers and those are supposed to be high quality so I trust the dudes make it so it doesn't explode [19:35:14] The problem with that low power from the amp and those huge speakers is that the signal from the amp will turn into DC if you turn it up to much [19:35:28] and there are only a few things speakers don't like. DC is one of them. [19:35:53] well dik what they did then [19:36:01] maybe the power amplifier has something for that [19:36:45] hopefully [19:37:12] anyways I have no need to turn it that high [19:37:37] I think the highest I used it with a guitar was like half power [19:37:48] the audio coming grom my computer turns out much louder [19:38:14] I also have my other amp which is 20w and it is rather loud too [19:38:26] with a homemade cabinet that shakes rather hard when I trn it up [19:38:36] it's a guitar amp but works very well for bass [19:58:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/437703699402457108/WP_20150130_14_29_22_Pro.jpg [20:04:39] uh I just found a random ksp save from 2015 in my computer [20:04:43] should try to play it [20:05:04] 1.0.4 [20:14:20] Anyone know what the simplest way to get 5m+ fairings is? I know proc fairings will do it [20:23:14] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:23:30] Evening, Gentlemen. [20:23:44] Hello everyone!! [20:24:24] I've got an issue trying to complete a polar orbit satellite contract. I can get everything except the most seemingly basic part of the contract completed. [20:24:40] I can't get "build a new unmanned satellite taht has an antenna and can generate power" [20:25:01] no kerbal in sat [20:25:27] I have batteries, solar panels, a remote guidance unit, and an antenna [20:25:42] weird [20:25:44] I don't have any kerbals in there, which I believe is correct [20:25:59] it's very odd, and I've tried this contract 5 times now [20:26:14] you can complete it with cheats [20:26:15] should that part of the contract go green in the hangar? I keep going all the way to the orbit to check [20:26:27] yeah, maybe it's a bug :( [20:27:20] it just feels so ... cheaty [20:27:25] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:27:34] Hi! [20:27:39] well you got the required conditions [20:28:05] take it like when you take a test and then rate it yourself [20:28:35] just wish I didn't have to go in to the cheat menu [20:28:45] thanks though [20:28:54] forgot that it was super easy to complete a contract [20:28:54] call it "debug" menu and it will feel better [20:29:28] haha [20:29:38] Hi APlayer [20:30:20] The debug menu is useful if your rocket has hardware bugs. :P [20:31:01] I often use it to allow clipping [20:31:10] most of my design use a lot of clipped parts [20:32:33] I tend to use the offset tool to move parts into each other, when it makes sense. For example radial monoprop tanks, I hate how much they stick out. [20:33:03] offset is really useful for planes [20:33:08] but rockets too [20:33:18] clip batteries and probe cores in them [20:39:03] Yeah, I often use it for batteries and other things too. I'd say the offset tool is the one I use by far the most. Aside from normal placement of parts. Though, I guess I use the two pretty comparably. [20:51:02] k123401 [21:04:19] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:35:10] Hey guys [21:37:47] Notagoodastronaut, OPM + ARSS broke again [21:39:29] Can you try it in your PC? [21:42:24] GurrenLaganTSS, still there? Sorry havent seen your message. I've already tryed it. It just messed up my instalation. [21:42:50] Expected [21:43:26] Also Jool looks AMAZING on ARSS [21:49:07] yea,I like the outer Neptunlike Planet [21:51:07] Neptunlike? are you running OPM with it [21:56:45] oh [21:56:52] Xylia [21:56:58] great easter egg [21:57:31] Yea, that I've meant. [21:58:28] You got me [21:59:25] Its a Planet 9 analouge i seems [22:02:29] kinda yes. [22:03:08] Did you managed it to get into the orbit wiht ARSS? [22:03:29] You'll need more dV then before. [22:03:30] Havent launched a rocket yet [22:03:57] After that, i will create new planets [22:07:23] great [22:07:33] VAB stoppeed working [22:07:59] Action: GurrenLagannTSS restarts KSP [22:13:14] Now its working [22:35:12] VAB? [22:38:39] Yes [22:38:57] Veichle Assembly Building [22:39:10]