[00:00:42] I recall a few shareware games that used models of the madcat and timberwolf... [00:01:01] They're the most iconic 'Mechs after the Atlas and Marauder. [00:04:33] The Marauder is a very nice looking mech. [00:05:35] <<---setting up a wireless bridge with my old modem...yeeee [00:11:23] Should work. [00:12:41] UmbralRaptop: It was popular among the tabletop crowd because of its decent vanilla weapon layout, 2 PPCs, 2 medium lasers and a AC-6 [00:12:50] Er, AC-5 [00:14:56] or all energy version.. SL, ML, PPC.. or LL [00:15:16] though in regards to the AC.. how it had to be stuffed into one torso, paperwork wise [00:16:19] The reseen versions sort of have it mounted flush with the torso sans a turret. [00:16:33] Ala http://cfw.sarna.net/wiki/images/a/a3/MWO_Marauder.png?timestamp=20180121154024 [00:17:17] Action: Scolar_Visari could see more use for the AC-5 if a future MW game included anti-infantry and bunker-busting work. [00:18:26] Like the BMP-3, deciding what weapon to use on a BattleMech can be a time consuming process. [00:18:52] "Hm, I could use a gun fired missile, but it's only one infantryman and I have three machine guns." [00:24:12] muh chromehounds though. [00:24:27] MW is meh... chromehounds 2 please. [00:26:58] You can take your Chromehounds and take them to the Deep Periphery where the Sun literally does not shine. [00:27:15] Because Sol is a G dwarf. [00:28:07] Action: UmbralRaptop yoinks the LBT. [00:29:38] Go O class or go sub-stellar mass. [00:40:22] Eh, I'd rather not get hit with a Type II supernovy [00:50:11] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders if O types last long enough for developed planetary systems. [00:52:55] Jupiters, maybe. Also, the radiation environment (and tendency to be in multiple star systems) would make them, uh, hostile. [00:53:20] Heh, I just had an idea: TNOs documented in anti-Planet Nine orbits are only that way because of stellar perturbations. [00:56:00] Quite possibly. [00:57:21] I've only seen a couple of papers which seriously doubt the Planet Nine hypothesis, but none conclusively dismiss it and they're all from last year. [01:13:16] Action: Scolar_Visari goes off to find unseen planets in KSP. [01:14:31] off to find food myself.. lates [01:37:58] Regarding weather balloons & their like: Do they pop due to pressure differential or material breakdown/thermal stress (lack of heat transfer/localized heat buildup on the balloon's surface)? O.o [01:39:30] both? [01:41:11] in that case, couldn't you release gas from within the balloon guided by pressure sensors outside/within the balloon & find a happy median altitude? [01:42:09] no idea [01:52:44] https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/05/nasas-em-drive-is-a-magnetic-wtf-thruster/?&comments=1 - turns out MAGNETIC fields are responsible, but that throws a whole knot of turtles into the works....how does THAT work? [02:09:42] eh it's kinda what a lot of people suspected [02:13:56] Is it not still possibly useful even if it works via earth's magnetic field? [02:14:21] could be used to maneuver satellites? O.o [02:15:28] iplop: AFAIK, magnetotorquers work on similar principles. Not sure about linear thrust, though. [05:41:19] http://twistedsifter.com/videos/dropping-ice-down-90m-borehole-in-antarctica/ [05:53:40] haha, forgot to bring the card https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0IMmHUADmw [05:53:41] YouTube - NASA Astronaut Left Camera SD Card at Home [05:57:28] https://www.boredpanda.com/marvel-avengers-actors-stunt-doubles/ [09:11:44] https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/05/nasas-em-drive-is-a-magnetic-wtf-thruster/ [09:12:02] oh already linked to. sorry lol [09:19:58] but we knew that already [09:20:07] I've had a constant headache for three hours now [09:20:24] supposedly the power supply current had enough magnetic field to interact with it [09:20:41] Althego: yeah it was likely outcome. though it may be still useful at and aropund any planet with mgnetic field [09:20:53] must be because I ran out of a subway station too fast to adjust for the pressure difference [09:20:58] hmm, we have something similar [09:21:07] but that was not thrust but torque [09:21:26] GlassYuri: try depressure/pressure procure [09:21:34] basically a huge yawn [09:21:53] I was joking [09:23:02] but me running from school down to the lowest circle of hell, taking a train for two stations, then running up until just below the surface, taking another train, then running through the heat may have caused it [09:25:31] Althego: the comment about mu metal and annealing... dang [09:28:42] hehe, space unicorns are not your friend [09:29:43] besides mass and its related factors, there is no real limition to size in space. [09:29:58] there could be things that make whale like minnow [09:30:13] yes there is, the chandrasekhar limit [09:30:23] or something like that [09:30:31] so dont be so big that you become a black hole [09:30:45] ah depends on if it could balance masses but yeah essentally I guess lol [09:31:08] imnge size of species so big it skates edge of being black hole [09:31:48] they may well make EARTH look like minnow lol [09:31:51] in whipping star and dosadi experiments at least some stars are intelligent beings [09:32:00] so they are that big [09:32:13] first one I have read, second im not sure [09:34:54] didnt know whipping star was part of series. nice [09:36:22] 4 book series [09:36:35] https://www.librarything.com/series/ConSentiency+Series [09:36:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:38:28] Althego: you may enjoy World out of time, by Niven [09:38:34] I was just thinking the other day that we hadn't heard anything about EM-drive in a while [09:39:07] its... kinda dead now for intersellar. but then it may be useful for magnetic field areas [09:40:45] I guess the EM Drive /was/ trash, after all [09:41:45] its mostly is now [09:41:47] I mean, you can't magically get momentum for free, can you? [09:42:18] I was thinking that it was pushing on "empty space" (virtual paracles) but guess not [09:42:38] That's not how physics work, even if it would be awesome to find such a "loophole" [09:46:08] well em-drive may still be useful like I menioned earlier [09:46:28] I mean, sats with it can't run out of propellant [09:50:50] Rolf: sats with photon drive cant run out of propellant either [09:51:25] also what are talking about, it does not work anyway and never worked [09:51:25] indeed but then it must be concerned with where to shoot photons at [09:51:33] kanzi lession indeed [09:52:29] The Kzinti lesson is, "a reaction drive's efficiency as a weapon is in direct proportion to its efficiency as a drive." [10:44:09] Howdy yall [10:57:23] anyway, jorj x mckie was good befor dosadi, but he became op after it :) [10:57:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:01:14] Althego: can you repeat that in english [11:04:03] jorj x mckie is a character in certain books. he was a sabouteur extraordinary before, thus alread ya kind of special agent before he visited the planet dosadi. but just to survive there he had to become even better, so basically too good, thus overpowered [13:30:41] hello world [13:31:03] ahoy [13:31:07] i play ksp since 1.3.1 but now i will try 1.2.2 RSS [13:31:55] whichs mods i need to have realistic ? [13:32:00] what happened to 1.4.3? [13:32:07] clouds etc [13:32:08] too new for mods? [13:32:40] Nervenkobold_GER: I have a similar setup to what you want [13:32:42] which mods u looking for @althego? [13:33:32] how can i get ur setup? APlayer [13:34:06] You may go for really full-realism with RO, but that's rather difficult to install and in some aspects I simply don't like it. However, the setup I have is a hassle too, because you have to maintain a lot of mods and they are not in a single package. Also, it's a 1.3 install. [13:34:33] In contrast, RO is only available for 1.2 as of now [13:34:36] 1.3 with RSS? [13:34:55] i always red its only in 1.2.2 [13:35:01] Yes, there is an unofficial RSS patch for 1.3 [13:35:15] oh...really? very good ;) [13:36:14] Long story short, I may have a look at my mod list and give you the most essential mods. Be warned, however, the full list is something between 50 and 100 mods. Also, some of them are custom MM patches which you can't just download and install. [13:36:22] my problem sometimes with RO my engines dont start in vacuum :) [13:36:41] oh ok [13:37:21] That's intended. It's called ullage. Basically, imagine a tank full of fuel. If it sits on Earth, the fuel pools in the bottom, where a pipe leads it to the engines. In zero g, however, the fuel floats around your tank and it does not pool at the pipe [13:38:41] You can solve it with RO by firing small solid rockets (the fuel does not float around there) shortly before igniting your real engines, to make the fuel settle in one place. Instead of solid rockets you may also use RCS thrusters, because those have their fuel in bladder tanks, which don't have this problem. [13:39:05] yes right...i used lil engines to press the fuel down but sometimes it doesnt work [13:39:22] Then you had to press the fuel harder ;-) [13:39:34] good plan :) [13:40:02] i will try next time [13:40:15] but first i want realistic view [13:40:30] clouds and star etc...u know what i mean? [13:41:48] i had a mentor at twitch but he isnt online since 1 year [13:44:22] Ah, I see [13:46:09] This kind of mod goes really hard on your GPU, so you should not do this unless your GPU is either really well tuned or a proper gaming model. I'd recommend RSSVE as a visual mod, it adds clouds, atmospheric effects and a bunch of other things [13:46:49] all the mods u will write now are for 1.3? [13:46:51] It requires scatterer and EVE, but I think those are at least linked to in the RSSVE thread [13:46:52] RSS [13:47:03] Yes, RSSVE is 1.3 compatible [13:47:41] ok [13:47:51] how about smurf? [13:48:24] I run all those mods in my 1.3 install, at least. Some of them might not be supported officially but they work for me, and some might require some special installation procedure with 1.3 patches, but they all work for me [13:49:35] I do use SMURFF, IIRC it's a balance mod. If that is so, then it makes your engines a bit better, tanks a bit lighter, ... Those are all pretty much required for RSS [13:50:27] Stock KSP engines and tanks are a bit more difficult than real world ones, because the solar system is much easier to play with. With RSS, you want to rebalance them [13:50:50] oh yes :) i saw [13:52:09] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:39:52] hehe. mail: get your wikipedia page 85% off. this message may be a scam. you dont say [14:46:09] Like, you know, when you look through eBay or similar, and you see a listing where the seller clearly put all the words they could think of in the first five seconds into the article name. Something like a "Graphing Calculator Instruments Plus Ti New Ce Nspire Edition Silver Sealed 84" and the image is one of a calculator which was not even remotely listed in the article name [14:48:29] spacex in 5 hours? cant watch it [14:49:05] Link? [14:49:14] probably not yet [14:49:48] I just want to confirm time for me, and have the link on hand to put into the topic ;-) Or do you mean there is not even a YouTube page yet? [14:50:03] probably [14:50:11] the streams are always unlisted [14:50:17] Ah, found it [14:50:18] and there is a separate spacex space that links the stream [14:50:27] *page [14:51:13] http://www.spacex.com/webcast [14:51:28] yes that is it [14:51:42] why do they do this i dont know [14:51:59] Anyway, the time's perfect for me to watch :D [14:52:11] i could probably squeeze it in [14:52:20] increasing the sleepiness [14:52:34] but tomorrow i dont go to the bakery [14:52:57] so there is a bit od a reserve there [14:53:09] Anyway, thanks for mentioning the launch :-) [14:53:10] hello [14:53:18] useless bot [14:53:25] Hello, Althego [14:53:33] another one :) [14:53:41] Althego: damn, beat me to it :-D [14:53:49] how is everyone? [14:54:06] that reminds me. what is brown and sticky? a stick [14:54:07] As nice as a small roll for breakfast. ;-) [14:54:28] Althego: A banhammer made of sticks, too ;-) [14:54:41] (because bot means stick) [14:54:58] (if you choose the language correctly) [14:57:38] Guest74909: doing good [14:58:11] engines nominal :) [14:58:30] whats everyone doing? [14:58:30] Go for launch [14:59:06] Floating around on a big ball in space :P [14:59:30] Writing some project report, chatting on IRC and doing a bunch of other things [14:59:40] And what about you? [14:59:41] you mean on the flat plane :) [15:00:26] you dont want floats. imagine if there is a glitch in the universe and earth just rockets off into interstellar space [15:01:40] im not doing much should do some homework then after maby try to build something in ksp (whith infinate fuel because i dont know how to have a good amount of fuel) [15:02:48] Feel free to ask, we will be here to help you with fuel and rocket design. :-) [15:03:00] delta v calculation (or mechjeb or kerbal engineer redux does it for you) [15:04:42] and 1 thing i need help is to get a rover to a diferent platet or just on kerbin kos almost any rover dosent fit in a plane's cargo area [15:07:00] what, i fit submarines in the cargo bay. ok. the biggest one [15:08:28] also how do you build a submarine or a boat [15:10:46] boat is simple, almost everything floats, even with the revised buoyancy [15:11:18] a submarine must have those black ore containers full of ore, those are heavy enough to pull the other parts down [15:11:31] ok [15:11:45] but as you use up fuel it becomes lighter and lighter [15:11:50] now how do i make the boat or submarine go forward? [15:11:56] yets [15:11:59] jets [15:12:06] or electric props [15:12:40] ok [15:12:46] jets are not really efficient, you can go up to say 30 m/s with ful thrust which would take you above the speed of sound in air [15:13:03] apparently wate is liquid oxygen :) [15:13:32] but otherwise yes, the mk2 cargo bay is really small for anything but probes [15:14:08] probes and really small rovers [15:15:32] also what mod is it that adds turning things [15:15:48] infernal robotics? [15:16:53] ill check later :) and ill be back in a bit cya later [15:19:19] haha, these truth seekers. havent seen a lightning going up. it exists since tesla and powers keep it secret :) [15:21:41] conceptually all lightning strikes up, but currentwise of course it can go in both directions (one is more often than the others). to see it, you need to have a slow mo camera. the rest is just usual conspiracy [15:33:17] hah, new scott video on the em drive [15:39:28] still the modified i want to believe thumbnail (i guess x files reference) [15:39:53] basically based on the same article that was linked here hours ago [15:40:41] Althego: saw that yesterday [15:41:35] EM Drive is dead! Long live the MagnetDrive! [15:42:04] you mean the lorentz force? [15:42:48] It need a catchy name for 'thing that push against the earth Magnetic field' [15:43:15] The Lorentz-O-Matic? [15:43:52] there is this already https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetorquer [15:44:05] magnepusher? [15:45:36] The Lorentz Oriented reaction enhanced neomagnet trans-Zenith Overdrive: The L.O.R.E.N.T.Z.O. [15:46:02] you must know a backronym generator [15:46:12] I don't [15:47:22] hello [15:47:33] Hello Mod9000 [15:47:39] lol [15:47:42] ... [15:47:49] as i said, the useless bot [15:47:53] Things are [15:47:59] ....things [15:49:15] https://i.imgur.com/Xysvf5Z.gifv [15:49:27] lol [15:50:08] Seriously, Things are great. I just came out of a depression to find that Xcom2: War of the chosen, KSP: Making history, Surviving Mars and Cities:Skyline was on sale...... and that the new Stellaris update is today [15:51:13] So, I shall hide in my home for a few days while the sun is out and my foot is sending pain messages to my brain [15:52:50] maybe you could patch your foot to send no computed data instead [15:53:37] Althego: it's not broken. I have to wait for it to heal using ice to manage the inflammation [15:56:42] Between those 4 games, Octopath traveller (which comes out in a month or 2) and FF12:Zodiac Age, i think I have enough for most rainy days this summer [15:56:49] If not, I also got Factorio [16:06:40] hehe, i am careful to never go near that one [16:15:09] I heard a very good decription of 'why' it is addictive: Nothing is ever finished. There is always somethign to do [16:15:57] One of the ways it does that is having outputs slightly higher then input for the next step [16:17:07] Say: produces 11 per sec, but the next in line can only consume 10.5/sec [16:17:59] that is a typical factory [16:18:05] or software development [16:18:22] i mean the nothing is finished [16:18:49] the key is probably that they used relative primes as source and drain processes for the subproducts [16:18:53] so you can never balance it [16:19:08] I know, but it's designed so that EVERY part is always unfinshed [16:19:17] in reality it is continuous anyway, but still you can get close to normal utilization [16:32:42] the bigger problem are the human errors and random failures [16:33:11] not to mention other setup or retooling needed for different products [16:39:22] hehe, forgot the check you staging shirt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPJtUEdaDxY [16:39:22] YouTube - No Nukes! Eve return mission in Kerbal Space Program - KSP 1.4.3 [16:39:36] https://youtu.be/z2Jm3z8TUD0 [16:39:36] YouTube - LIghtSaber Theremin, Star Wars Musical Machine. [16:43:11] this was the guy with the furby organ [16:43:17] yes [16:43:23] he makes cool music stuff [16:46:15] but this is not a theremin [16:46:46] similar concept [16:46:52] theremins are a bit more complicated [16:47:41] more of a performance than music [16:47:55] well that's what live music is about [16:48:26] for that it is enough to play the instrument [16:48:42] no need for strange poses [16:49:14] yeah but that's punk synth music, it needs strange poses [16:53:52] https://78.media.tumblr.com/8eb06144ca50f1f42eddeb620184963d/tumblr_p887ro9WJj1ukxxj7o1_500.gif [16:54:08] hehe that face [16:56:58] https://78.media.tumblr.com/576736a4da703a4899311fe75dbb65a5/tumblr_p9320jSPK51xoyw8po1_400.gif [16:57:19] hehe [16:57:43] magic belt [16:57:52] bending the laws of physics to its own will [16:58:08] :P [16:58:09] or rather momentum [16:58:29] any tips on making a boat? [16:58:38] you cant [16:58:42] everything is a plane [16:58:57] I have tips on submarines [16:59:06] any tips on making a flowting plane? [16:59:08] https://78.media.tumblr.com/4448dada2a2fcc53bd63ea1c38643f21/tumblr_o0l20hofk91v18034o1_540.jpg [16:59:18] there was a video with similarly strange behavior of moving loops [16:59:23] you can ask Deddly, he has been making race boats [16:59:34] link the sword video again [16:59:59] https://youtu.be/d58RRpUe74o?t=61 [17:00:21] there can be only one (lighting strikes in the background) [17:01:08] heh [17:01:18] I have another plane I need to kill as well [17:01:22] but I will do with fireworks [17:03:52] https://78.media.tumblr.com/f58d59d468cc388de097691ce3db223e/tumblr_p6x3rpF6lg1rujxwko1_540.jpg [17:06:10] hah i found it [17:06:11] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rffAjZPmkuU [17:06:12] YouTube - String shooter-String launcher- physics of toys //// Homemade Science with Bruce Yeany [17:06:19] this guy has other cool videos too [17:07:00] probably the same effect stabilizes the belt too [17:07:05] https://youtu.be/E311VRQO7UI?t=15 [17:07:13] wait you saw this one already [17:09:39] and this is why a launch loop is a bad idea [17:09:58] launch loop? [17:10:36] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launch_loop [17:11:02] ooo nice [17:11:12] even more complicated than a space elevator [17:11:29] and lot worse when it fails [17:12:18] yeah [17:19:46] "french people talk english like they lost all their teeth and self respect" [17:20:06] well I kinda stopped trying by now, I speak a bit liek Stephane Isreal [17:20:08] what would happen if they spoke german? earth vanishes into a black hole? [17:20:12] Israel* [17:20:23] "american and english people cant talk french at all. who sucks toes now huh" [17:20:43] "im from quebec osti de tabarnak " [17:20:59] what [17:21:09] I kinda do some sort of german/russian ugly accent sometimes because it's a bit easier to understand [17:21:21] what does ve2dmn say on this matteR? [17:21:41] zis is german coastguard [17:21:48] btw I might go to montreal next year so I could meet some peoples there [17:21:56] will be going for my uncle's bday [17:23:37] say on what matter? [17:23:56] "im from quebec osti de tabarnak " [17:24:17] Action: ve2dmn shrugs [17:24:45] It's close enough I guess [17:26:42] I've done extra work to have as little accent as I could... Misproniciation makes me cringe a tiny bit [17:30:36] I tend to do the minimum of work to get as little an ascent as possible. Missappropriation won't make me change any bit. [17:32:44] Missappropriation ? [17:35:13] How much ”V is expended on a typical accent? [17:35:31] like about 3k? [17:35:31] hehe [17:35:34] a bit less maybe [17:35:48] UmbralRaptop: 'ze right amount' [17:36:01] get to da choppa [17:36:39] :D [17:42:15] Speaking of Miss-pronoun-ciation, Tom Scott got a new video [17:45:06] Miss Pronoun Citation looks down on your grammatically incorrect existence. [17:46:50] (It's a good video. You should watch it.) [17:46:54] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMR44wJY89c [17:46:54] YouTube - Star Wars Chewbacca Sound Effects [17:47:05] can you say these? :) [17:47:25] No, but I have a friend who could :D [17:49:25] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB3LJdMYzrQ [17:49:26] YouTube - A Town Called Asbestos [17:50:19] He forgot to mention that 'Asbestos' isn't called that in french... [17:51:34] And he can't say 'Quebec' properly... but I can't blame him. Most anglophones make the same mistake [18:17:16] Draconiator https://imgur.com/ivX0wkk [18:17:17] https://i.imgur.com/ivX0wkk.gifv [18:27:40] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFTToTsJuY0 [18:27:40] YouTube - The Robots Roaming the High Seas [18:29:39] they dont need charging or fuel, completely autonomous [18:29:56] ok, probably the battery dies after a few years [18:34:50] Althego: nothing is eternal [18:35:27] Except maybe Nothingness... but we are not even sure how the universe dies so... [18:36:55] but kind of cool that they are more of a living thing than a machine as they are creating their own power [18:38:47] +1 [18:45:18] am I seeing this right? is there a rocket launch in 1h? [18:45:36] if it happens [18:45:38] as usual [18:45:50] better safe then sorry [18:45:56] Fluburtur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyQBPB1wnyk [18:45:57] YouTube - Giant Scale SR-71 Blackbird (Scratch-Built) -- Top Gun Invitational 2018 [18:46:31] Althego: soon there'll be more robots out on the High Seas, but they will collect plastics, which is great [18:47:16] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_0GgKfwCSk [18:47:16] YouTube - Iridium-6/GRACE-FO Mission [18:48:44] next step is to make them build offaspring from the plastics, and those would collect more plastics :) [18:49:02] and then mutation strikes sometimes :) [18:49:47] is this block 5 or 4? [19:03:39] Althego: with the right incentives, they might try and compete for the most offspring and the most plastic [19:04:10] Soon, they will get closer and closer to the shore to get the plastic RAW at the source [19:04:17] hehe [19:04:23] attack humans to eat their clothes :) [19:04:29] climb out of the sea [19:04:30] pretty much [19:04:45] that is why we must never make nanobots [19:05:04] We already did. They are called 'molecules' [19:06:41] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-QSux_LU2U [19:06:41] YouTube - Kerbal Space Program - Main Theme: 8-bit Style [19:06:46] too bad it is not longer [19:25:50] is the countdown until the start of stream or the launch? [19:26:18] seems to be the launch [19:26:42] usually they are already talking about something at this point [19:28:54] Like what Elon had for breakfast and what startup he made to change breakfast. [19:30:37] our new company Saltrr has invented an internet-connected appliance that will disrupt the world of food-making by allowing you to apply your condiments directly onto the food itself [19:30:56] what [19:31:14] *5 minutes later* we regret to inform you that apparently there's something called a "saltshaker" and we are now bankrupt and we're just gonna leave with all your money, thanks for kickstarting us tho [19:32:45] Action: snow invokes Kickstarter's Terms of Use 2012 at tawny [19:32:58] SpaceX iridium launch, i cant watch it damn it [19:33:22] you can watch it tomorrow [19:33:30] the video will wait for you [19:34:02] Tank2333: thanks for reminding me [19:34:58] what is wrong with his voice [19:34:59] so it is block 5 [19:35:06] it sounds like he swallowed a whistle [19:36:38] no, that is more like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQujUmfFc4w [19:36:38] YouTube - Farmer whistles and his chickens fly down for the feast [19:38:08] note the 8 bit sunglasses and the 8 bit tie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBCb4JLl09M [19:38:08] YouTube - A-Bit of Memes [19:39:46] why does this commentator guy sound like he is sending from the 60s? [19:39:48] Falcon 9 at T-9 Min [19:40:03] a 1s launch window wow [19:40:13] Also, where is this launch site? I don't remember seeing this [19:40:38] Vandenberg, according to the webcast site [19:40:39] you have 2 choices [19:40:57] Ah [19:41:50] vanderberg always looks so desolate [19:43:13] that shape explains why the iridium flares happen [19:43:24] Hehe [19:44:45] wow there are 2 camersa [19:45:02] One is without comments but essentially the same [19:45:35] there is a brown thing in it for me, and nothing changes [19:46:04] Polar orbit? [19:46:46] i always found it strange how they can have a 1 second window when the engines start up way slower than that [19:47:01] The launch window must wait [19:47:09] 1 min [19:47:09] No other explanation [19:47:23] Oh, there comes the cheering [19:47:39] it's SpaceX. there's always cheering [19:47:51] but i guess they dont have peanuts [19:48:47] it's block 4? [19:48:55] looks like 5 [19:49:03] because of the blacks [19:49:17] focus man [19:49:20] but they are not landing it back? [19:49:28] camera guy is not doing it right [19:49:36] probably a 4 [19:49:46] that would be more logical [19:49:49] they will need time to inspect the 5 of last time [19:50:37] finally the stream from the rocket [19:50:44] that is what we are missing from all other launches [19:51:30] i never understand what makes that foil move all the time [19:52:02] crap inside I guess [19:52:07] or probably gas from the engine [19:52:16] but only on one side [19:52:51] it's video artifacts [19:52:52] what is this grace fo [19:52:55] Uh, the whole this is vibrating [19:53:01] as all launches [19:53:05] Of course the foil moves [19:53:28] yes, but it is characteristic, it has one movement in every few seconds [19:53:43] one bigger [19:53:51] Lizard people, I guess [19:54:00] hah take that flat earthers [19:54:08] They try to penetrate the rocket's tin foil hat and can't [19:54:15] this image [19:54:19] still curved [19:54:23] tiny imps or gnomes inside the foil that are shoveling coal down the engine [19:54:31] hehe coal [19:54:42] poor guys die when the stage come back [19:55:06] nah... they have a tiny parachute [19:55:20] you dont think they might be kerbals [19:55:28] who else would do such a thing [19:55:36] !!! [19:55:48] Kerbals would shovel Plutonium in the engine, not coal [19:55:49] hmm it is high up [19:56:22] Yes, by the way. They usually end up at 150 km, IIRC [19:57:11] grace is earth science tracing water and ice movements [19:59:10] stay with us. as a tv channel [19:59:17] there are veen ads lol [19:59:36] 'Drink Space Cola!' [19:59:52] no, rocket fuel for beer as the robots in zed [20:00:05] everything says #autoLOC_ what do i do [20:00:38] Guest28833: can you provide more context? [20:00:46] Does anyone know how to reduce lag when dragging parts in the VAB? [20:01:13] better cpu? :) [20:01:33] senray: hold the button that force the nearest node [20:01:36] but you can really go up to even 1000 parts without getting angry [20:01:39] like everything the start game thing is #autoLOC_ [20:01:40] (shift?) [20:01:57] @Althego it's not physics lag, it's lag when dragging something in the VAB [20:02:08] @ve2dmn I'll try that [20:02:26] yes, and the editor used to get slower when moving lot of parts in one drah [20:02:35] senray: you might have other computer issues if adding new parts lags [20:02:39] It happens if I'm moving a single part [20:02:49] that doesnt happen normally [20:02:50] It's not adding new parts [20:02:55] It's dragging a part [20:03:32] Guest28833: can you provide a screenshot? [20:03:51] im on laptop how do i do that [20:03:58] oh dear [20:04:07] f1 lol [20:04:11] im sooo noob [20:04:25] saves it in the screenshots dir in the game instal dir [20:05:09] I'll try videoing the lag, that may explain it better [20:05:39] Guest28833: I want to help, but I'll have to either provide so more complete explanation if you can provide an image :/ [20:05:48] how do i screenshot normaly do i use sniping tools [20:06:20] F1 [20:06:27] There is more then 1 way. [20:06:39] to skin a cat [20:07:00] do i hold it cause it goes to google help [20:07:27] Press F1, then navigate to YourKSPInstall/Screenshots/ to see all in-game screenshots [20:07:41] Also, why not use the snipping tool if you know how to do that? [20:08:39] go to the start page and see where it says start game it says #autoLOC_ [20:09:00] every thing does [20:09:16] lol [20:09:24] just start the game directly you dont need the launcher [20:09:53] ksp_x64.exe probably right next to the launcher [20:10:04] If you're using sniping tools, that could damage your monitor lol [20:10:06] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/448578124997722113/FB_IMG_1526959174433.jpg [20:10:24] what am i looking at [20:10:29] sniping tool: telescope [20:10:36] my next tattoo [20:10:46] you have some? [20:11:17] no [20:11:25] Guest28833: did you get the game through steam or GOG or the website? [20:11:29] next was implying [20:11:45] but it will be next [20:12:33] i'm 15 i don't have any ocounts on steam i got it from oceanofgames.com [20:12:48] Fluburtur->m_Tatto->Next() [20:13:00] what... [20:13:21] i didnt know that is a distributor [20:13:43] it's a game site google it [20:14:31] ve2dmn formulated the question the way he did because he also knew of only 3 distributors [20:14:36] sounds... fishy [20:16:05] If not, it could be a whale of a tale to learn how they fished out that name [20:16:16] so... if it is not legal there may have been something bundled to the game :) [20:16:48] https://media.giphy.com/media/2lfmstaBWomG5vDfqj/giphy.gif [20:16:51] This is the issue [20:16:51] Althego: I know of other distributors, but they almost always sells steam keys [20:17:18] senray: wow... I'm sorry [20:17:33] @ve2dmn huh? [20:17:34] hey guess what [20:17:34] looks like garbage collector [20:17:50] @Guest2833 did you pay for it? [20:17:56] that looks painful [20:18:00] changed the name [20:18:08] me no [20:18:16] wwell, there you go [20:18:19] here [20:18:21] Oh, so the problem is that you stole it [20:18:25] The game can only be legally downloaded if you buy it [20:18:38] Well, technically not stole [20:18:47] http://oceanofgames.com/ [20:19:00] If you get it anywhere from free, that's illegal. In fact, that's like going to the shop and stealing a CD [20:19:07] for free* [20:19:08] as that site id full of free downloads... [20:19:21] senray: your logs says anything? [20:19:23] Wow. Dude, how'd you get here from 1999? [20:19:29] who wold want a cd lol [20:19:38] Console peasants. [20:19:46] ocean of games is where i get all my games from [20:20:04] vergiledantefromDMC: You should delete the illegal copy of your game, because it might contain a virus and break your computer and/or steal your passwords [20:20:06] they are all free [20:20:15] Your computers must be full of viruses [20:20:16] The games are /not/ free. They are stolen. [20:20:26] pirated, not stolen [20:20:26] vergiledantefromDMC: just because a particular website marks something as available for download doesn't mean it's free. [20:20:40] those are the most expensive ones [20:20:45] nope my laptop is fit as a fiddle [20:20:53] you are probablyalready part of a botnet or something [20:21:04] Beware of free things. Nothing is ever free. There is always a price [20:21:07] I can assure you that site is completely illigitimate. [20:21:12] His computer is probably already rigging the midterm [20:21:18] Even if there are no viruses on your computer, which I highly doubt, you stole the game by downloading it [20:21:39] Just because you don't notice any viruses, it does not mean you don't have any [20:21:44] Nothing in the log [20:21:45] ok download something and see if you have to put a card number in [20:21:57] that's not how viruses work [20:22:01] Uh, no [20:22:13] im not talking about that [20:22:15] It's got things like C&C 3 and SC:Brood War on it, there's no way what you're doing is not considered malicious. [20:22:28] also frostpunk [20:22:43] Obviously, this site does not ask for payment. They want you to download the games which probably have a virus bundled with them [20:22:43] i bout that this weekend [20:22:56] i doubt he's going to change his mind anyways [20:23:03] I think he's a troll [20:23:10] regardless of what you do, without paying the toll you're not gonna get support in here. [20:23:23] look, people today dont even understand that facebook is not free [20:23:28] It's sort of against the rules [20:23:33] they just sell you [20:23:39] the same wey these sight do [20:23:46] or in case your computer [20:23:52] instead of you [20:23:52] Althego: would be OK with that if they gave me some of my own money :( [20:24:25] i must sleep because i cant even type anymore [20:25:05] At least, with Google Rewards they give you a few cents for your information [20:25:12] hehe [20:25:17] vergiledantefromDMC: I have to agree with Zarthus here. We are the official KSP channel, and you stole the game from this site. We do not support this sort of action and we will not support you doing this either. [20:25:32] Facebok gave me nothing but trouble [20:26:05] at least they dont spam my real world mailbox with paper to create an account [20:26:09] To quote John Oliver, life was horrible before facebook, you couldn't swipe peoples heads to make them go away [20:26:22] and now you can? [20:26:30] i thought swiping is for tinder [20:26:32] i dont need suport i need to know if i fucked up something in the debug menu [20:26:39] the chat bubble thingies [20:26:42] Also, language [20:26:50] Please keep it clean. [20:26:53] chat bubbles left and right? [20:26:54] Troll. Definitely a troll. [20:26:55] Yeah [20:26:56] i never understand that [20:27:07] they are annoying, take up unnecessary space [20:27:14] Maybe my RAM is filling up... [20:27:16] im an adult im aloud to cuss if i want [20:27:17] and make it harder to read [20:27:25] not here :) [20:27:28] Well, you are, but not in here [20:27:29] didn't you say you are 12? [20:27:33] Ninja'd by Althego [20:27:39] I think he's a hamster [20:28:03] note that two people have problems, that may have been the other one [20:28:24] senray, Fluburtur: It's okay. We give them another chance, and hopefully it turns out better this time [20:28:28] i'm keeping myself on the downlow when im online in my free time [20:29:00] im actualy sean [20:29:17] fair enough [20:29:59] vergiledantefromDMC: I don't want to cause trouble with this, but I have to repeat it - please buy the game legally. It can be found on sale for as low as $15, I think. Then we will be more than glad to help you with anything, provide support, teach you and chat with you about all sorts of things [20:30:33] my mom won't let me [20:30:56] In that case, I suggest you talk about the educational benefits of the game. It can teach you a lot. [20:31:12] your mother won't let you spend your own money, or her money? [20:31:35] if your mother won't teach you the basics of economics she's shielding you from an essential life skill [20:31:45] i don't have money [20:32:11] everyone starts that way [20:32:15] You might want to look at summer jobs, then. It's an easy and fun way to get to know new people and earn some money [20:32:15] im 15 i will be 16 in september [20:32:27] 15 bucks is not hard to come by [20:32:33] mow one or two lawns [20:32:47] Also, if you're 15 and want to get free software, don't pirate stuff! Become a copyleft activist [20:32:51] want: https://i.redditmedia.com/SQWiO7Gt_nx3xUeN6fBoXNv7Aa9XJiihFzvam2OygMc.png?s=43230f0fccea86e8e9581ed09fb167e5 [20:33:07] i am the laziest person you will ever meet [20:33:29] @ve2dmn I've yet to understand why gameboy games aren't on Android [20:33:30] copyleft activist... [20:33:34] sounds so bad [20:33:43] That's definitely a thing you should fight. Just get your lazy behind up and do some work. ;-) [20:33:43] It does? [20:34:26] my family is staying at a friends house because we are so poor [20:34:33] vergiledantefromDMC: Regardless of what you are or aren't, at some point you will (hopefully) create something you're proud of [20:34:35] in essence free software is what software should be. since the marginal price of one copy is 0 if you can sell infinite copies [20:34:39] vergiledantefromDMC: and lazy 16 year olds will get it for free. [20:34:44] vergiledantefromDMC: Won't make you very happy will it. [20:35:04] Althego https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/368835402431332365/448584520430649355/JPEG_20180522_100335.jpg [20:35:18] how big is that? [20:35:24] idk [20:35:27] gluten free [20:35:47] haha high fructose corn syrup. no thanks [20:35:48] The marginal cost is zero, but the initial cost can be enormous [20:36:02] do you know what that is? baasically poison [20:36:12] the idea behind it is sound but the word "copyleft" is a really dumb construction tbh [20:36:14] Isn't it just sugar? [20:36:34] and that is why i say hardcore free software enthusiasts are somewhat silly [20:36:47] vergiledantefromDMC: I'm afraid that's not something we can help with. You may, of course, message Squad and ask them if they could give you a free copy of the game considering your financial circumstances, but I highly doubt they would do it. However, if you are this poor, you should probably not be playing computer games, but helping your family. [20:36:48] sugar is glucose and fructose i think [20:36:59] ^ [20:37:01] it is fructose. metabolized through the liver in the same pathway as alcohol. just doesnt get tyou drunk [20:37:11] Really? [20:37:12] it gets you fat though, like alcohol [20:37:43] poor kid. I was that innocent once... [20:37:55] but it is a cheap byproduct of certain industries so they use it in foods [20:38:00] Fructose and Glucose are regular monosaccharides. Sucrose (regular sugar) is a disaccharide composed of one fructose and one glucose part. [20:38:03] ...of course back then I was stuck with a 2400 modem, so virus were different [20:38:10] I just looked it up, and discovered that I was indeed 15 during the pirate bay trial [20:38:18] And I was following it with interest at the time lol [20:38:35] since some guy decades ago came up with the idea that fats are bad for you. so they removed them from the food, but it turned out they are not eatable like that, so they put sugar in them isntead [20:39:06] I like zero calories stuff, no energy so you just die [20:39:06] Okay, so help me understand this: [20:39:09] Althego: which is why my new diet is sugar-free bacon [20:39:17] hehe [20:39:25] also gluten free [20:39:41] And nutrient free... but it taste real good [20:39:42] So, you have a fructose-tenside-fat solution and you eat that every day for calories [20:39:42] I'm loaded up and getting the part drag stuttering, my RAM is 16.332 gb total, with 2.6 available and 387 free [20:39:43] what is the other thing people are afraid of? [20:39:51] How is free different from available? [20:40:06] on linux? [20:40:12] free is unused [20:40:14] windows [20:40:24] senray: IIRC, "Available" is like, really free, and "Free" is if it was claimed by a program, but not occupied yet [20:40:27] but system uses unused parts for caching. those are available but not free [20:40:30] Hmm, so 2.3 is being cached [20:40:41] senray: when I'm working and don't have appointments, I'm not free, but I am available :-D [20:40:48] i dont know what windows dows [20:40:54] hmm... [20:41:09] It looks like it's putting some RAM into an HDD cache? [20:41:14] heh i wanted to sleep [20:41:21] senray: get this: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer [20:41:27] ok, now then watch the second burn [20:41:41] It's much better then the basic windows task manager thing [20:42:51] huh, TIL windows uses free RAM to cache things [20:43:06] as i said i dont know about windows, but linux does that [20:43:16] it is logical, why not use that rma if it is there [20:43:51] about fructose https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM [20:43:52] YouTube - Sugar: The Bitter Truth [20:44:03] explains it in depth [20:44:51] Well, obviously, too much sugar is not good [20:44:59] But sugar is sugar [20:45:03] hmm, it's not garbage collection [20:45:11] Fructose, for example, is common in all sorts of fruit [20:45:15] yes [20:45:20] Memhraph shows it happening at 7 second intervals [20:45:27] but you also eat the natural countermeasure to fructose [20:45:32] in the druit [20:45:46] Which is what? [20:46:02] Also, stage 2 camera looks pretty broken [20:46:33] Radiation this quickly? Or what happened to it? [20:46:43] fibers [20:46:54] new cameras are maybe bad [20:46:56] Fibers are not digested, are they? [20:47:17] i cant remember every part of a video i watched years ago [20:47:44] hmm....so what would cause stutterring when dragging with over a gig of ram left [20:48:09] are you running the 64 bit version? [20:48:13] I am not professionally educated about nutrients and how they are digested, but I am pretty sure that fibers and fructose are completely independent as far as your body is concerned [20:48:17] yup\ [20:48:19] yup [20:48:28] senray: Perhaps GPU VRAM? [20:48:43] it only occurs in the VAB [20:48:53] senray: weird [20:48:56] Are you running video or image editing software or something like that? [20:48:59] nope [20:49:12] Also, have you tried turning it off and on again? [20:49:14] but anway, if you dont eat the fruit, just the fructose, it will make you fat, while the body handles it exactly as a poson [20:49:17] either the player.log, the Ksp.log or the other log might have soemthing in there [20:49:18] yep [20:49:35] they moved player.log , where is it now? [20:49:53] Althego: I'm pretty sure that's not correct. Let me look it up [20:50:12] Althego, are you a vegan? [20:50:17] lol no [20:50:26] you sound exactly like my vegan friend [20:51:05] what, i say fructose is bad for you, which is in... fruits :) at least in nature [20:51:18] https://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM?t=4508 [20:51:24] Is this stuff normal: [LOG 16:49:52.392] ScaleModList: listSize 984 maxListSize 2043 [20:51:24] here, he explains it why [20:53:02] hehe the guy is named robert lustig. yet he is not very funny [20:53:49] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose#Fructose_digestion_and_absorption_in_humans [20:54:37] Man, something really destroyed that camera [20:54:42] I'd like to know what [20:54:44] they said it was sO2 [20:54:53] Sorry? [20:54:57] On the camera? [20:55:06] yeah [20:55:12] You mean the spacex launch, right? [20:55:18] Is that sulfur dioxide or solid oxygen? [20:55:23] Yes, the launch [20:55:31] solid oxygen, sorry [20:55:36] DHMO [20:55:41] Almost [20:55:47] how does that do that [20:55:54] In my defense, I'm about to get a sociology BA, so I'm not really qualified to talk about science [20:56:15] senray: Do you remember where they said it? I'd like to know more :D [20:56:16] senray: in what speciality? [20:56:25] ve2dmn: speciality? [20:56:29] senray: because I might have a ressource to share... [20:56:37] @aplayer just a second ago [20:56:45] resourcer under attack [20:56:53] I'm not sure what you mean by speciality [20:57:27] I'll tell you in PM [20:57:32] ok [20:57:32] (I don't want to promote my work here) [20:57:36] fair enough [20:59:17] why was it only 5? [20:59:35] maybe they were in a hexagon and the grace was in one position [21:00:37] They just want you to think that those are communication sats, but in fact, those are laser cannons. They now have a constellation covering the whole world. [21:00:58] if we are lucky at least some interplanetary communication will be using lasers [21:01:03] soon tm [21:01:22] hehe supposedly they removed the legs of the block 5 booster [21:01:38] one of its features is that it does not need that [21:01:46] Aren't lasers naturally somewhat wide angle for communication? [21:01:57] Would you still need a dish? [21:02:02] they are too narrow [21:02:14] tried to hit half of a continent from mars? [21:02:50] Too narrow? Aren't we talking like 0.1 degrees or so? [21:03:14] that is the point, the energy ins not dispersed but focused [21:04:05] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:04:14] Garr that router [21:05:28] Anyway, I'm off anyway, so perhaps the router wasn't too far off [21:05:32] See you! [21:27:43] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:46:44] y'all don't know how much nicer you are than the normal community [21:57:03] http://www.tachyum.com [21:59:19] Here a start-up that will rescue moors law and build a datatcenter to simullate the human brain by 2020 in realtime [21:59:20] ...what a marketing wank... [22:30:44] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuY0nIkt7lE [22:30:45] YouTube - Lincoln's Patent [22:49:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:07:30] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:18:53] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:58:39] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [23:58:39] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net