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[09:25:18] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/94da09e28256a1ded8e91c4db4ffa280/tumblr_oew0igiOPu1qzhjh2o1_540.jpg
[09:26:38] <Althego> what
[09:26:43] <Althego> did it explode?
[09:27:52] <Althego> and all that is the printing poweder?
[09:28:07] <Fluburtur> looks like it
[09:28:15] <Fluburtur> also, I need a laser cutter
[09:31:37] <Althego> plasma cutter. for dismembering necromorphs
[10:23:26] Action: darsie 's Moon flyby/impact rockets don't work.
[10:24:01] <darsie> Not enough dv, explode in atmosphere.
[10:27:32] Action: darsie makes the rocket slower by adding 2 m tank.
[10:36:44] <darsie> That worked.
[10:54:10] <Mat2ch> Oh, Eve, so beautiful, so deadly
[10:54:36] <Mat2ch> darsie: uh, uncontrolled flights?
[11:02:56] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485427078964183070/537587540392148992/parts_cad.jpg
[11:23:15] <darsie> Mat2ch: Rocket too fast.
[11:23:44] <Epppi> anyone remember what height a satelite will start to degrade at?
[11:23:53] <darsie> irl?
[11:24:01] <darsie> 70 km for Kerbin.
[11:25:16] <Epppi> nice thanks.  irl is much more complicated is it not?
[11:25:43] <Epppi> like they debate over what when space starts
[11:25:44] <darsie> The atmosphere fades away, there's solar wind and light pressure ...
[11:25:57] <UmbralRaptop> ^
[11:25:58] <packbart> which reminds me. I wanted to try the "Realistic Atmospheres" mod if it's still supported
[11:26:40] <UmbralRaptop> Also orbits get yanked around by Earth being nonspherical. 
[11:26:55] <UmbralRaptop> And GEO sats by the moon(!) 
[11:26:56] <darsie> sun synchronous orbits :)
[11:30:26] <UmbralRaptop> Those are a clever use of nonspherical gravity. 
[11:33:04] Action: darsie lacks 119 m/s to impact the Moon. I doubt I could get that by flying better.
[11:42:22] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485427078964183070/537597881968885760/DSC_0361.JPG
[11:42:56] <Althego> stencil
[11:43:02] <Althego> i havent seen one for a long time
[11:43:18] <Althego> manual printing
[11:43:31] <Fluburtur> and I got my solder paste as well
[11:43:39] <Althego> dont eat it :)
[11:43:49] <Fluburtur> it doesnt have lead, should be safe to eat
[11:44:20] <Althego> hehe i wonder how you want to make good solder joints with a lead free solder
[11:44:49] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: do you wanna learn a neat trick for the stencil?
[11:45:01] <Mat2ch> Cut the outline of the PCB into the cardboard
[11:45:04] <Fluburtur> I planned to solder that in the food oven, didnt want to poison everyone
[11:45:12] <Epi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS8Q9LUIKA8 sorta related, but not really
[11:45:19] <Mat2ch> then align the stencil and make tape on one side, so you can flip it. (Like you did)
[11:45:19] <Fluburtur> but then I got a dedicated oven
[11:45:39] <Mat2ch> this way you don't have to tape the PCB to the cardboard
[11:45:45] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch I put several layers of paper tape, holds the pcb in place
[11:46:06] <Mat2ch> I guess you're doing this only for one PCB. :D
[11:46:06] <Fluburtur> it slots in of sorts, kinda like cutting a pocket in the cardboard
[11:46:14] <Fluburtur> I have 10 of them
[11:46:19] <Fluburtur> might order more 
[11:46:33] <Mat2ch> If you have to do 10 or more then you want to have something where you don't have to tape the PCB in all the time ;)
[11:46:43] <Fluburtur> well it isnt taped it
[11:46:48] <Fluburtur> the tape is around it
[11:47:16] <Fluburtur> Epi we had screen printing stuff where I worked before
[11:47:34] <Fluburtur> a manual machine and an automatic one
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[13:52:37] <Rokker> new shepard launch in an hour
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[13:55:13] <Althego> ah is this the launch that didnt happen last year?
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[14:09:57] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509458293538684939/537635045972770826/DSC_0373.JPG
[14:14:00] <Mat2ch> "NET Feb. 9Falcon 9 " Crew Dragon Demo 1" I believe this, when I see it.
[14:52:41] <packbart> ooh, a New Poodle engine at Blue Origin
[15:08:22] <Mat2ch> It still looks like a huge, uhm... like huge rocket
[15:09:06] <Mat2ch> also feet? MPH? What is this?
[15:10:59] <Fluburtur> link?
[15:11:18] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E-3Bk2wpxo
[15:11:19] <kmath> YouTube - Blue Origin NS-10 Live Webcast
[15:11:36] <Fluburtur> uh I missed it
[15:11:43] <Fluburtur> why did not one link it before the launch
[15:13:14] <packbart> hah, sorry ;) read it here, searched youtube, pasted the link to two other channels
[15:23:48] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509458293538684939/537653548318720020/DSC_0377.JPG
[15:26:36] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: Blue Origin is boring ;P
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[17:21:28] <Althego> https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/rockets/a25953663/elon-musk-spacex-bfr-stainless-steel/?utm_campaign=socialflowTWPOP&utm_medium=social-media&utm_source=twitter&src=socialflowTW&__twitter_impression=true
[17:23:43] <Althego> https://i.redd.it/u9erd4stoyb21.jpg
[17:23:45] <Althego> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dxd9hePUUAAgToL.jpg:large
[17:26:59] <Fluburtur> oooo wintergatan
[17:27:08] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOKg8aY2FRU
[17:27:08] <kmath> YouTube - Music Programming Plates Part 3 - Marble Machine X #65
[17:48:19] <Ded> Since when did putting stuff in quotes in Google not give exact search results anymore?
[17:48:56] <Ded> Oh wait... I had an extra quotation mark :P
[17:52:28] <Althego> oh wait i forgot about the suborbital launch, did it go off?
[17:53:44] <Althego> there is a video, so it probably worked
[17:56:06] <Althego> the shape of the rocket remains funny
[18:00:32] <Althego> over 100 km at least they went into space :)
[18:02:22] <Althego> about 3 minutes of weightlessness
[18:04:44] <Althego> they could have added some window view camras in the capsule
[18:08:15] <Ded> Blue Origin?
[18:08:21] <Althego> yes
[18:08:30] <Ded> Didn't know they were launching. Nice
[18:08:38] <Ded> Higher than Virgin
[18:08:45] <Ded> (So far)
[18:09:11] <Ded> I wonder which method will be cheaper in the long term
[18:09:22] <Althego> this rocket seems to be simpler
[18:09:24] <Althego> and faster
[18:09:33] <Althego> not wasting a lot of time with a slow jet ascent
[18:10:08] <Ded> But Virgin use a hybrid rocket, which is much cheaper, simpler and easier to maintain
[18:10:16] <Althego> but i would like to land on a landing strip very softly instead of hitting the desert with parachutes
[18:10:35] <Ded> Hang on... I thought BO were doing propulsive landings
[18:10:49] <Althego> for the booster
[18:10:56] <Althego> but as a pasenger i dont care about that
[18:11:02] <Althego> i care about my bones
[18:11:49] <Althego> and it looks pretty much soyuz style hit the dirt from 16 mph to 0 in a split second
[18:11:57] <Ded> I haven't followed their development closely, but I thought it was single stage
[18:11:59] <Althego> that is like a car crash
[18:12:17] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E-3Bk2wpxo
[18:12:18] <kmath> YouTube - Replay of NS-10 Webcast
[18:12:26] <Ded> Can't watch video right now, sorry
[18:12:36] <Althego> anyway th capsule lands on 3 parachutes
[18:12:51] <Deddly> So the capsule separates? Whatever for?
[18:12:51] <Althego> now imagine if only 2 deploy it is probably from 20 mph to 0
[18:13:07] <Althego> for safer landing i guess
[18:13:36] <Deddly> 16 mph to 0 without crumple zones is going to cause pretty nasty injuries 
[18:13:55] <Althego> probably they can solve it the same way as soyuz does
[18:14:15] <Althego> but the people who landed in a soyuz never enjoy it
[18:15:23] <Deddly> It's like a free fall from 2.5 metres/8ft
[18:16:00] <Deddly> Basically worse than getting thrown off a big horse
[18:16:55] <Deddly> Soyuz has retro thrusters that fire just before landing, right?
[18:17:07] <Althego> yes, and also the seats crumple
[18:17:16] <Deddly> Ah
[18:17:26] <Althego> still really uncomfortable
[18:17:55] <Deddly> So, again, Virgin's solution seems more practical for regular suborbital flights
[18:18:18] <Althego> except they are more complicated, since both are piloted airplanes
[18:18:49] <Althego> and getting into space for a few minutes of weightlessness takes forever
[18:20:55] <Deddly> The design and construction is more complicated, but reusability seems pretty straightforward. Also, flight time doesn't seem to be a big concern. People have been waiting decades for their flight, so the longer the better, probably.
[18:21:16] <Deddly> I mean, it's not a form of transport
[18:21:23] <Deddly> It's all about the rid
[18:21:24] <Deddly> e
[18:34:09] <Althego> didnt know about this kind of display, interesting https://hackaday.com/2019/01/17/sharpest-color-crt-display-is-monochrome-plus-a-trick/
[18:40:13] <VanDisaster> wonder what happened to that screen made of tiny mirrors someone was working on
[18:40:35] <Althego> i dont know about screen, but projectors use light processing
[19:16:59] <Deddly> That was pretty cool, Althego 
[19:17:20] <Deddly> VanDisaster, wasn't that the Miracast laser projector?
[19:17:58] <VanDisaster> was some years ago, I can't remember much about it...
[19:18:35] <Deddly> Not sure about the name
[19:19:20] <VanDisaster> https://www.economist.com/babbage/2011/10/25/pivoting-pixels
[19:19:23] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/533692229693210656/537712951671390223/zgzrgerzgz.jpg
[19:20:45] <Althego> hehe putting them there with tweezers
[19:20:59] <Fluburtur> what am I supposed to do
[19:21:08] <Althego> normally: byt the power of gr... vacuum
[19:21:10] <Fluburtur> the tiny resistors are 0.6 by 0.3mm
[19:21:54] <Deddly> Awesome, VanDisaster. 
[19:22:43] <Althego> wait, you used 0201 resistors for manual placement? could have just chosen bigger ines
[19:22:49] <Deddly> Power of vacuum? https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/vacuum.png
[19:23:16] <Fluburtur> I told my pcb designer to put some bigger ones next time
[19:23:36] <Fluburtur> also he messed up the programming pins
[19:23:52] <Althego> lol no brainer, even 0402s are annoying even with machines, going smaller is just asking for pain
[19:24:06] <Fluburtur> the silkscreen derped and it lacks mounting holes soit will require a re-design
[19:24:38] <Althego> prototype, happens
[19:24:58] <Fluburtur> at least I got to play with my macro lens
[19:33:42] <Althego> what does new horizons do now?
[19:33:48] <Althego> is it still behind the sun?
[19:44:40] <Deddly> https://theskylive.com/newhorizons-tracker
[19:45:59] <Althego> it is not downlinking now
[19:46:44] <Althego> oh wait there it is
[19:46:49] <Althego> somehow called nhpc
[19:57:51] <Althego> hehe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWgaQgpQr_c
[19:57:51] <kmath> YouTube - Lego Wintergatan: Marble Machine (Marble Machine Cover)
[19:57:53] <Althego> quite new
[21:26:36] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/533692229693210656/537744790456893460/tumblr_plq52yAF3d1r539hzo1_500.png
[22:02:08] <Rolf> whoa
[22:02:14] <Rolf> steel rocket was blown down
[22:02:34] <Fluburtur> rip shini tube
[22:09:01] <JVFoxy> ....
[22:10:04] <JVFoxy> the top half... uh.. oops?
[22:10:13] <Fluburtur> pictures?
[22:12:25] <JVFoxy> none that I can find... CNBC only reported an hour ago, based on a tweet?
[22:12:50] <JVFoxy> something about 50mph winds and top half coming loose of mooring blocks
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