[00:06:33] Back [00:08:30] I named my Tyche analouge Hychul [01:00:37] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:05:03] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:05:10] Evening, Gentlemen. [01:30:15] https://imgur.com/a/WiRkXu7 [01:32:56] oren: I give that image 1 star. [02:24:09] Hmm, after several failed attempts, er, i mean, simulations to land on duna, it appears that additional equipment is needed [02:25:46] I will need to arrange an express delivery [04:38:31] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [05:06:15] ... so... anyone awake, or everyone just zombies tonight? [05:06:58] in the office [05:07:31] just wondering what to do with Val after getting a docking contract done. quite a bit of fuel left, even while in 250km orbit [05:08:32] sorta ala single crew type gemini mission.. shame no long duration mission contracts [05:12:00] blurg... [05:12:40] anyways.. [05:17:43] .. sigh, net here being burping tonight it seems [05:23:57] maybe a free return around the mun? [05:40:18] mm.... [05:40:45] may have to check the delta V. though since I can't transfer fuel between the two parts.. [05:41:08] send up more :) [05:50:08] I had considered launching a crew mk1 pod docking it on... [05:50:25] get that crew transfer achievement.. [06:04:17] figuring out delta V long way.. wee [06:04:22] i have found an abomiantion https://www.micromark.com/Fractional-Digital-Caliper [06:18:27] hmm... [06:18:50] 973dv.. only needs 762dv for free return from 250km orbit up... [06:19:57] though.. mental checklist says, lack of heatshield kills that idea [07:33:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:18:15] ...is there any risk in using a free vpn if I only use it to access sites over https? [09:22:10] well, they could still track you [09:22:24] if you just want to get around some local firewall: no [09:23:50] I want to upload some files to a file hoster but cloudflare is giving me the authentic china experience [09:24:39] check the SSL certificate, but your browser should warn you, if somebody tries to interfere with that [09:46:34] GlassYuri: what's the authentic china experience? [09:47:45] being blocked by the country's firewall i guess [09:47:49] Triffid_Hunter_, being blocked from accessing the site I need to just because someone in power hates me [09:48:16] hmm, I just checked and either my IP changed or I was unbanned [09:48:32] heh was just wondering as I'm in china at the moment [09:48:53] GlassYuri: if your internet does not shut off for half an hour after trying to access google, you are not getting authentic china experience [09:50:27] they never banned my account, just my IP, so I guess it was just your usual dynamic IP address BS [09:50:55] bees: heh they don't do it like that, they DNS-poison the domain to black-hole IPs [09:51:10] and block the proper IPs in case you sneak past the DNS poisoning [09:51:54] I do think I have heard the cutting out access somewhere before though [09:52:18] also that they MitM you for a while after accessing certain sites or using certain keywords [09:53:27] well https makes that kinda troublesome [09:53:44] supposedly they discourage https [09:54:31] as in not having your site protected may help avoid being banned [09:54:36] not that I've noticed, just lots of chinese website operators seem to be too inept to set it up properly [09:55:07] I mean, if they really want to check all your users, they'll just come check your server since all sites that interact with chinese people are supposed to be hosted in china [10:49:53] https://78.media.tumblr.com/19606fce9dbe9aa850ca9fdd39ab45d5/tumblr_inline_p4as6sCpwM1s7enj9_500.jpg [10:55:43] https://78.media.tumblr.com/230400678f943cd0629bba024c2e256e/tumblr_p7m4w2ZBvy1qjnhqgo1_540.jpg [11:10:07] I don't get it [11:10:41] http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/204/482/14c.jpg [11:11:01] I don't know who that is [11:11:31] you know I had to do it to em [11:11:37] I also don't know who the other person is [11:11:42] I don't know who anyone is [11:29:30] Eclipser: do you know who you are? [11:31:02] not sure [11:34:16] who do you think you are? [11:36:53] um [11:36:57] I need some help [11:47:45] another cry for help goes unanswered [11:53:49] hehe [11:55:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/438306858277666836/31230557_1938687999495220_6401082338695970816_n.png [11:57:04] what i a brogle [12:01:50] Action: UmbralRaptop should complain on the forum about people who stay ~45 seconds. [12:03:19] Albert R. Brogle [12:12:43] I have some fuel mix left [12:12:47] might make a smoke [12:13:16] or cook it and keep it for later [12:13:28] I kinda want to cook fuel, turn it to powder an pack it in stuff [12:13:42] UmbralRaptop: oh yes, please [12:13:45] :D [12:39:01] yeah only had like 17g of fuel left [14:15:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:22:04] mk4 nozzle mold ready [14:22:11] and I put some grease to make it easier to release [14:22:46] rhyme is ok, now work on the rhythm [14:23:05] lel [14:26:53] Fluburtur: do you visit Richard Nakkas page [14:27:08] add more boosters [14:28:52] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:29:51] who is that [14:31:16] Fluburtur: homemade model rocket engine nerd [14:31:27] mainly sugar rockets [14:31:40] oh yeah I have seen his website [14:31:55] Fluburtur: http://www.nakka-rocketry.net/ [14:33:17] could be a ksp mod name :)Ö [14:45:42] also I started making race boats to beat deddly but I don't think I have a chance [14:45:58] my first one can get to 60m/s easily but flips if I try to steer it [14:46:03] speaking of mods [14:46:11] Dman979: yo, can I talk to you in pm [15:11:25] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulCdoCfw-bY [15:38:08] well this is interesting.....N64 emulation works with the keyboard if you set it up right. A bit clunky though but it works. [15:38:45] Draconiator: wasn't there a modem/ethernet thingy for the N64 ? [15:39:49] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_64_accessories#Keyboard [15:40:04] 64DD keybaord was made it seems [15:40:23] Draconiator: So, I looked up the distances between Sol and the stars of Cassiopeia [15:41:04] The observed parallax corresponds roughly proportionally to the distance according to Wikipedia [15:41:18] Experiment successful, I'd say. :-) [15:42:11] APlayer: The measure is good for how long? 100k years? [15:42:12] Althego: they miss the part about Hawking Raditation, which in fact means that black holes also loose mass and someday may loose their event horizon as well [15:43:58] ve2dmn: From the numbers I've seen, it's less. Sirius apparently moved 30 arcsecs since it was first precisely measured and described by astronomers 1800 years ago [15:44:23] Nothing is static :/ [15:44:49] Except maybe light-speed [15:46:26] (3 years later: Scientists discovered the speed of light varies as the universe ages - dark energy explained) [15:46:56] hehe [15:46:57] So then the only constant... is change [15:47:09] hawking radiation is really slow [15:47:38] The decay of radioactive Caesium stays true to your expectations, though [15:48:34] im reheating some of my old cooked fuel in an empty can using a hair drier [15:48:36] can only go well [15:48:59] Flub_ugh: make a video, for science [15:48:59] Looks like you're building a flamethrower... [15:49:06] :D [15:49:08] yes! [15:49:10] I just want to make the fuel dry [15:49:18] Oh no! Be careful with that hair drier, you might burn yourself! [15:49:47] Also, the can might have sharp metal parts [15:50:27] uh the hair drier can make the can go to 130°c [15:50:31] along with the fuel inside [15:50:36] APlayer: don't forget the papercut from taking notes [15:51:23] ve2dmn: Oh-oh. No, this is a dangerous experiment and should not be done at home. [15:53:46] I should get back in hardware hacking [15:56:49] apparently I need to wait until my fuel is half caramelized to put it i the rocket motor [15:57:01] but I thought it was bad [15:58:19] Replace KNO3 with NH4NO3 [16:03:52] wait [16:03:58] you need a license to get that here :P [16:04:28] one strong explosion would be to spray fine dust of flammable material on the air around the target, then just need a little flame [16:25:12] Flub_ugh: https://i.redd.it/s1fgz23ugrt01.jpg [16:43:42] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:07:46] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Technicalfool' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:13:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:31:00] scott about super earths [17:35:32] I wonder what is the limit of g on lifeforms [17:36:08] like, above 10g, how buy can it be? [17:37:37] plants would be ok with 10g, bo trees probably [17:37:57] single celled wouldnt care much [17:40:52] I know some single-cell live inside nuclear reactors, so extremophiles can be impressive [17:45:10] ve2dmn: i wonder if it is possible for multi-cellular organisms to evolve the kind of error correction that would be needed to survive long-term exposure to ionizing radiation [17:45:41] probably a really good protein [17:47:52] I think the little things can do that [17:47:54] repair dna [17:48:49] to fix it you need to know what it should say, though [17:49:06] humans can repair DNA to a certain extent, but not foolproof [17:49:16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinococcus_radiodurans [17:49:41] it's in the name :D [17:51:26] it's a name made-up from an ancient greek 'first name' and a Latin-based 'last name' [17:52:09] "As a consequence of its hardiness, it has been nicknamed Conan the Bacterium." [17:52:17] yes, as i thought, it has multiple copies of its genome [17:53:32] in the original game of fallout series (which is anything but scientific) Mutants had 4-strand Helix instead of 2 strand helix [17:54:13] I can see a number of issues with such a system, but it uses the magic of 'suspension of disbelief' [17:55:36] "D. radiodurans is capable of withstanding an acute dose of 5,000 grays (Gy), or 500,000 rad, of ionizing radiation with almost no loss of viability, and an acute dose of 15,000 Gy with 37% viability." [17:55:38] "i wonder if it is possible for multi-cellular organisms to evolve the kind of error correction that would be needed to survive long-term exposure to ionizing radiation" <--- how much ionizing radiation? [17:55:51] "For comparison, a chest X-ray or Apollo mission involves about 1 mGy, 5 Gy can kill a human, 200-800 Gy will kill E. coli, and over 4,000 Gy will kill the radiation-resistant tardigrade." [17:56:02] like at a certain point even if you're super resistant the radiation can be enough to scour away all the material [17:56:41] RandomJeb: let's say, Tardigrade-level radiation survival [17:56:42] so if you mean all the ionizing radiation, then the answer is no [17:56:59] oh that would be way easy, tardigrades are multi-cellular [17:57:13] RandomJeb: like, interplanetary space travel [17:58:33] yeah tardigrades can do interplanetary space travel no problem [17:58:37] so... solved [17:58:40] "In 2003, U.S. scientists demonstrated D. radiodurans could be used as a means of information storage that might survive a nuclear catastrophe. They translated the song "It's a Small World" into a series of DNA segments 150 base pairs long, inserted these into the bacteria, and were able to retrieve them without errors 100 bacterial generations later." [17:59:29] so, if there is a nuclear war and civilization is wiped 100%, "It's a small world" might survive [18:03:15] how long did it take those bacteria to spawn 100 generations though? A few hours? A few days? [18:04:42] Source, according to Wikipedia: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3243 [18:09:58] So... how do you make sure that a Robot heading to Mars doesn't have one of these extremophile on board? [18:10:25] Let's see what this "southern gateway" is all about? Tune in! https://gaming.youtube.com/channel/UCZuDQkMA5GF3Jh29ElK3-uQ/live [18:15:35] ve2dmn: by being careful [18:17:15] but... how? [18:36:48] Pick them off with Q-tips [18:41:21] best job in the world, planetary protection officer [18:42:11] there are several levels of sterilization depending where the probe, rover, thingie goes, but uiltimately you cant make sure, probably some of the bacteria survives [18:42:49] Just blast it with radiation and chemicals until the electronics fail -> Probe is not going anywhere -> Mission accomplished [18:45:45] :D [18:47:00] "We were just stress testing it and it went 'poof!'" "I would not call using an oven at 2000C 'stress-testing'" [18:48:12] "It was just a hair drier" [18:52:25] "It's just minor damage, I'm sure the probe still works" "... it's a pile of ash on the floor" [18:52:30] whatever you do, dont put yout probe in the nasa arc jet facility [18:52:48] arc jet? [18:53:00] they test heatshield materials there [18:53:20] it is like a superheated wind tunnel [18:53:24] nice. I want one [18:53:29] NICE -> NASA Incinerator Calibration Experiment [18:53:35] no, I want TWO [18:53:35] hehe [18:54:02] https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/thermophysics-facilities/arcjet-complex [18:55:01] lol [18:55:16] reminds me of how my friend supervised satellite testing [18:56:16] Did the satellite testing supervise your friend? [19:08:53] APlayer: we are all supervised by satelittes [19:13:54] Deddly I tried to make a race boat [19:14:28] lol [19:15:03] it was like that, they were testing its behaviour under vibration load [19:15:27] and turns out taht the testing specified by standarts is brutal [19:16:18] does it involves frozne chicken getting thrown at it? [19:23:18] Frozen tardigrades. No, I mean living tardigrades. [19:27:48] https://youtu.be/iLBz3sFcBAg [19:29:11] living tardigrades blasted at satellites in the arcjet complex, that's how you sterilize them properly [19:31:08] hehe that video was made in budapest [19:31:11] If tardigrades were omnivores, that could actually work [19:31:28] what do they eat? [19:32:55] curious canadians :) [19:33:21] https://youtu.be/NwOtZnjqKGA [19:35:46] not a complicated shape [19:36:01] this would be better done with a mould [19:36:35] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHbI_B2sPA0 [19:38:22] painful [19:40:04] Althego: so Tardigrades are vampire-like being living off Coffee-and-maple infused-blood ? [19:40:42] since they are literally everywhere, that cant be the case [19:41:27] Then they probably live off left socks, because I seem to lose mine all the time [19:42:01] hehe, when al bundy's used socks saved the galaxy :) [19:42:09] ve2dmn, no, chicken was in the story about the other my friend lol [19:42:46] Gasher: you've seen that mythbuster episode, right? [19:43:17] ve2dmn, i heard a story from aircraft engine testing by that friend and the chicken cannon [19:44:13] "Prepare to be served Chicken! Fire the Chicken Cannons!" [19:44:45] (this need to be added to BDA) [19:46:42] Fluburtur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TJA5vokRpE [19:48:19] lol coolant into the coffee [19:48:31] dont drink that [19:49:12] I think that's supposed to be fed with milk [19:49:32] Much rather, don't eat the apple out of the CNC machine [19:49:43] that too [19:50:07] o_O [19:51:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:51:11] Death by internet shock [19:51:16] Oh, no, not death [19:51:38] BRB, anyway [19:51:56] do not use the internet over the age limit [19:54:24] Peer agrees. [19:54:38] take one internet every 4h, repeat if necessary. Do not take more then 16 internets per day. [19:55:00] 64 hour days? [19:56:13] https://youtu.be/qJvaet-4T5k [19:57:51] TARGA? [19:58:19] TRIGA, maybe. [19:59:38] UmbralRaptop: targa [19:59:54] UmbralRaptop: you know what I love [20:00:25] nuclear reactors are so dangerous that they've only really killed 3 people in the entire US [20:00:38] and that's mainly cause of questionable reactor design [20:01:05] Only SL-1? Hm [20:01:17] yeah [20:01:47] UmbralRaptop: to be fair, some of that is luck [20:03:52] UmbralRaptop: hmm wait, there might have been one other accident [20:03:59] UmbralRaptop, what about TRIGA? [20:04:44] UmbralRaptop: most nuclear plant deaths seem to be pipe bursts or electrocution [20:06:07] SnoopJeDi: complaining that it looked mispelled in the video. [20:06:38] ah [20:08:01] im trying to land refueling rockets on minmus, but my struts keep breaking [20:08:06] in like 1m/s :(. [20:13:57] https://steamcommunity.com/app/220200/discussions/0/1697169163395439652/?ctp=2 [20:14:00] oh! [20:14:20] https://i.gyazo.com/3345501b9258d614649d6e8f77b6da85.jpg [20:14:57] Rokker, if you're still there, I'm a bit busy right now [20:15:15] I'll let you know when I can talk, though [20:16:39] ight [20:17:02] there have been very few radiological incidents with reactors [20:21:21] Mostly around fuel/waste handling, I think. [20:21:53] Action: UmbralRaptop stares at Kyshtym. [21:09:38] ahhh I founda video about correct handling of murikan planes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4CX-9lkRMQ [21:15:25] The battle of the egos continues... [21:15:33] heh [21:16:50] k time to watch a movie now [21:16:58] watched red tide yesterday, was pretty nice [21:24:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:30:57] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [21:30:57] does weezer use standard tuning like ever? [22:36:35] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:51:01] Hey Rokker, I can chat for a bit now. [22:52:35] cool [22:56:28] Dman979: I messaged you [22:57:21] I see it, I'm just typing a reply [22:57:41] :) [22:59:01] ðŸ‘ [23:15:20] Flub_ugh: ooooo [23:15:56] the air force as requested 200 million to change some planes into some other planes [23:16:27] like do magic and poof new plane? [23:16:55] if you call A&P magic... sure. [23:17:20] F-28.5? [23:17:50] "The aircraft literally brighter than the sun" [23:18:11] they should start making licence built su-35 [23:18:17] Flub_ugh: gonna convert some fuelybois into some sniffyboys [23:18:25] but I doubt you can get stalinium in the usa [23:18:29] Flub_ugh: we already produce target drones [23:18:55] that's the only thing the Su-35 is good for, target practice [23:19:13] you misspeled f-35 [23:19:23] anyways [23:19:27] then you see this and go nononononono: https://i.imgur.com/mNKnaP5.mp4 [23:19:48] KC-135Rs into WC-135(unknown letter) [23:23:19] huh [23:23:45] there's a BA-810 model near the flapjack at frontiers of flight museum https://www.google.com/search?q=beal+rocket+engine&client=ms-android-verizon&prmd=sniv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwicpI_N69PaAhUFT98KHcEpAAYQ_AUIEygD&biw=412&bih=766&dpr=2.63#imgrc=PuNvMM90s24syM: [23:41:52] https://youtu.be/JrH78bldJQc [23:41:52] YouTube - Slope flying a Heli [23:51:24] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: To preserve causality, the following messages are being charged to your accounts classically. [23:51:59] Scolar_Visari how well do helis glide? [23:53:14] Flub: autorotation works kinda I guess [23:53:23] https://youtu.be/JrH78bldJQc [23:53:23] YouTube - Slope flying a Heli [23:53:41] Action: Scolar_Visari Would still not like to be in a helicopter with no power to the rotating wing part [23:53:57] don't go on a autogyro ride then [23:54:55] I was thinking of a helicopter under fire. Typically , I avoid war zones [23:55:19] Except for that one incident dramatized in Blue Thunder and Airwolf [23:58:18] what kind of helis do you usualy fly? [23:59:11] The kind that transform into Decepticons [23:59:45] uh [23:59:49] that kinda makes sense