[06:07:12] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [06:07:12] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v phroa' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:07:12] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [06:07:12] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v phroa' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:34:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:34:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:44:53] Anyone familiar with FAR or FAR continued? Ive got an odd situation I want to check to see if others have it. A Mk1 pod is low drag, the same pod with a parachute on top is 'normal' drag. Replace the parachute with a dmagic magnetometer and add radial chutes, and the drag is a fraction of the 'normal' drag. [07:44:53] Anyone familiar with FAR or FAR continued? Ive got an odd situation I want to check to see if others have it. A Mk1 pod is low drag, the same pod with a parachute on top is 'normal' drag. Replace the parachute with a dmagic magnetometer and add radial chutes, and the drag is a fraction of the 'normal' drag. [07:45:19] With the normal drag, I hit the water from a re-entry around 100 m/s. With the low drag, I hit the water between 500m/s and 1000 m/s [07:46:50] Checking FAR(c)'s windows, I see the Cd value is around 1.2 for the normal drag, and 0.06 for the low drag, so it makes sense - but it doesnt make sense that there is such a big drag difference. Lost two kerbals I care about in career mode to this, wondering if perhaps my understanding of drag isnt as adequate as I thought, or whether it could be a MFI issue or the part or something. [07:45:19] With the normal drag, I hit the water from a re-entry around 100 m/s. With the low drag, I hit the water between 500m/s and 1000 m/s [07:46:50] Checking FAR(c)'s windows, I see the Cd value is around 1.2 for the normal drag, and 0.06 for the low drag, so it makes sense - but it doesnt make sense that there is such a big drag difference. Lost two kerbals I care about in career mode to this, wondering if perhaps my understanding of drag isnt as adequate as I thought, or whether it could be a MFI issue or the part or something. [11:37:06] 1337 [11:37:59] this time i noticed it too [11:37:06] 1337 [11:37:59] this time i noticed it too [12:15:22] ? [12:17:13] Deddly: It's like saying Happy New Year. [12:17:54] What, 1337? [12:17:58] yes [12:18:01] How? [12:18:32] It's leetspeak for (e)leet (elite). You say it at 13:37. [12:18:43] Oh right. [12:18:45] If you're cool :). [12:19:23] I knew 1337 is leet, but I'm not cool enough to know you're supposed to say it at 13:37. Makes sense now. [12:15:22] ? [12:17:13] Deddly: It's like saying Happy New Year. [12:17:54] What, 1337? [12:17:58] yes [12:18:01] How? [12:18:32] It's leetspeak for (e)leet (elite). You say it at 13:37. [12:18:43] Oh right. [12:18:45] If you're cool :). [12:19:23] I knew 1337 is leet, but I'm not cool enough to know you're supposed to say it at 13:37. Makes sense now. [12:33:53] Youngling! [12:34:14] back in the days, we all talked l1k3 7h1s [12:34:17] (not really ;) [12:33:53] Youngling! [12:34:14] back in the days, we all talked l1k3 7h1s [12:34:17] (not really ;) [12:36:50] 1337 [12:37:59] only when sneaking into the Amiga-only BBS [12:36:50] 1337 [12:37:59] only when sneaking into the Amiga-only BBS [14:30:02] what's happening [14:30:18] sn5 is moved [14:30:23] nothing much, SN5 rolling out [14:30:46] https://spacelaunchnow.me/launch/starship-sn5-150m-hop/ says it might hop next week [14:30:53] hah [14:30:02] what's happening [14:30:18] sn5 is moved [14:30:23] nothing much, SN5 rolling out [14:30:46] https://spacelaunchnow.me/launch/starship-sn5-150m-hop/ says it might hop next week [14:30:53] hah [14:39:39] Depends how much of the SN4 testing they duplicate? [14:39:39] Depends how much of the SN4 testing they duplicate? [14:40:09] They could definitely do one static fire and then a hop in a week [14:41:24] i doubt they can skip static fire [14:41:57] and that also pressurizes the tank too, so if they are in a hurry, can skip tha tank test [14:40:09] They could definitely do one static fire and then a hop in a week [14:41:24] i doubt they can skip static fire [14:41:57] and that also pressurizes the tank too, so if they are in a hurry, can skip tha tank test [14:47:05] Before they were doing it separately to not risk the Raptor [14:47:24] But I don't *think* the structure is very different on SN5? [14:49:09] what about the material? or is that from sn7 onwards? [14:47:05] Before they were doing it separately to not risk the Raptor [14:47:24] But I don't *think* the structure is very different on SN5? [14:49:09] what about the material? or is that from sn7 onwards? [15:12:09] They probably are going to do pressure tests tomorrow, then install the engine and do static fire tests [15:12:26] oh and the quick release test, without the engine attached... [15:13:02] and they wont go over 7.5 bars, because that's enough for now and they need the flight data [15:12:09] They probably are going to do pressure tests tomorrow, then install the engine and do static fire tests [15:12:26] oh and the quick release test, without the engine attached... [15:13:02] and they wont go over 7.5 bars, because that's enough for now and they need the flight data [15:18:42] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:18:42] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:09:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:09:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:22:45] i was waiting for zeus to show up yesterday. but it was there, i just didnt notice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm5hrbLSH2k [17:22:45] YouTube - SpaceX's Zeus Sniffing SN7 After Test to Failure [17:22:45] i was waiting for zeus to show up yesterday. but it was there, i just didnt notice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm5hrbLSH2k [17:22:45] YouTube - SpaceX's Zeus Sniffing SN7 After Test to Failure [17:40:24] wintergatan [17:44:39] also hard brown box lol [17:40:24] wintergatan [17:44:39] also hard brown box lol [17:53:41] they still have fixed planes wanting to do a 180 after touchdown? [17:53:41] they still have fixed planes wanting to do a 180 after touchdown? [18:01:43] if you mean ksp, i havent noticed an issue with that. there were versions previously with that now not really [18:02:46] umaxtu: Tweaking the brake strengths can help with that [18:03:07] I had brakes set to 200 on the rear wheels and 50 in the front [18:03:37] Also, while rolling, it helps if the centre of wheel-drag is behind the centre of mass :p [18:04:15] But if it's too far, the rear wheels get unloaded... [18:04:47] so bring the rear-wheel brake strength down? [18:01:43] if you mean ksp, i havent noticed an issue with that. there were versions previously with that now not really [18:02:46] umaxtu: Tweaking the brake strengths can help with that [18:03:07] I had brakes set to 200 on the rear wheels and 50 in the front [18:03:37] Also, while rolling, it helps if the centre of wheel-drag is behind the centre of mass :p [18:04:15] But if it's too far, the rear wheels get unloaded... [18:04:47] so bring the rear-wheel brake strength down? [18:05:27] i would increase it on the rear wheels [18:05:52] it should have the same effect as adding fins for flight [18:06:30] ok thanks. is there any way to visualize the center of wheel drag? [18:06:50] i havent heard of anything like that [18:08:39] k [18:05:27] i would increase it on the rear wheels [18:05:52] it should have the same effect as adding fins for flight [18:06:30] ok thanks. is there any way to visualize the center of wheel drag? [18:06:50] i havent heard of anything like that [18:08:39] k [20:54:09] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:54:09] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net