[01:12:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:42:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Althego' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:11:17] shut up [04:42:09] :) [05:13:01] Last message repeated 4 time(s). [05:13:01] lithobraking? [05:26:04] anyways im outta here [05:26:11] time to have infinite fun [07:34:15] wow [07:34:26] place really changed since the forum migration [07:41:44] what changed? [07:54:56] pretty dang empty [07:55:26] :) [07:55:47] lol its lready pretty empty here [07:56:00] i first joined when this channel was over 800 people and text never stops [08:07:34] well, it's IRC. pretty much unknown today [08:08:04] the Reddit KSP Discord Thingy is quite active [08:12:03] try talking KSP on Usenet... ;) [08:13:54] hehe [08:17:18] services die when they are murdered [08:18:25] but they aren't [08:19:38] we're still here. and my NNTP server apparently still transfers Usenet articles between its peers. I just don't read them [08:20:44] was mostly talking about certain ... competitors acting hostile towards IRC, the zombie state of many channels makes me sad [08:25:38] well, it's not what $people expect from their chat services nowadays [08:25:51] [08:27:39] irssi doesn't even have a quick emoji selector [08:28:30] 🤔 [08:34:33] my terminal can't even render whatever that is :D [08:34:54] thinking face emoji [08:35:01] the terminal can render it [08:35:07] you just need the font [08:35:14] sure, it could, if I had any fonts with that glyph installed :p [08:35:38] it's standard since 2015 [08:36:33] I just install fonts that look nice for text, emoji don't tend to express anything important or interesting anyway [08:37:03] I'd disagree [08:37:23] not used much in irc [08:44:55] Fun is infinite! [08:50:18] セガエンタープライズの楽しさは無限大です。 -マジン。 [09:02:21] why does this website give out your ip address [09:02:39] isn't that kinda illegal [09:02:53] how else would you expect the packets to find you? [09:03:06] Which website? [09:03:12] i guess webchat [09:03:22] darsie: this website, dingus [09:03:30] I'm not using a website [09:03:31] it is not a website [09:03:34] don't even have a web browser open [09:03:38] idk what website you're talkind about? [09:03:42] darsie: this webchat** dingus [09:03:44] you are using a web client [09:03:58] You're in an IRC chat. IRC is not web, just as email is not a web site. [09:04:17] but for most people it is, because they use gmail through a browser [09:04:28] . [09:04:40] . [09:04:45] what if i change my ip [09:04:46] , [09:05:03] Then your packets will be routed another way. [09:05:03] right now? [09:05:09] sure [09:05:17] the packets wouldnt find you and you would be disconnected [09:05:24] o [09:05:42] what packets [09:05:45] poor lost packets [09:06:03] If you send an email, the headers may tell the recipient your IP. [09:06:22] is that bad [09:06:26] idk [09:06:30] not usually [09:06:48] o ok [09:07:27] HIDE AND SEEK - ACT 1 [09:07:30] an IP address alone only really tells you which ISP that IP is currently controlled by [09:07:51] and in many cases approximate location on earth [09:08:02] https://www.iplocation.net/ip-lookup says you're from Lynnwood Lilliwaup Shelton Union [09:08:06] too late [09:08:37] approximate?? [09:08:42] https://www.iplocation.net/ip-lookup says you're from Lynnwood Lilliwaup Shelton Union [09:08:52] me? [09:08:56] yes [09:08:57] an IP address is considered private data under GDPR rules, though [09:09:02] there are geoip databases that try to correlate you location with ip [09:09:19] AHHHHHH [09:09:24] I HATE IT [09:09:31] so usually you could get a city, maybe a district [09:09:33] IT'S ACTUALLY CLOSE [09:09:36] Maybe IRC is not for you. [09:09:47] Try discord or so. [09:09:52] hehe [09:09:58] does that help? [09:10:01] idk [09:10:04] i dont know how it works [09:10:16] Also avoid email. [09:10:19] sooner or later there has to be an ip somewhere for bidirectional communication [09:10:22] it used to not proxy media requests [09:10:34] so you could post an image URL and get all the clients that fetch it [09:10:46] oh ok [09:10:55] discord doesn't disclose your IP to all the channel members. and mail servers can be configured to strip that information, too [09:10:58] I'm told that's been fixed, but I've never used it [09:10:59] you could use a vpn. if you dont feel sick instantly on the mention, because of all the youtube channels advertising vpns [09:11:15] Worry about pics in emails, even 1x1 pixel pics. They may be loaded from a web server telling the email sender your IP. [09:11:22] I've got some Perfect Privacy coupons somewhere... [09:11:39] I use simple HTML view for emails. [09:11:46] https://drive.google.com/file/d/12X3qWiCMCQNvZdvr2-F7DBXtQETCIYkw/view?usp=sharing [09:11:58] darsie: those servers also fall under GDPR [09:12:13] If they're in the EU. [09:12:17] IRC flies deep enough under the radar so that nobody really cares [09:12:18] it's kind of neat how every youtube video that advertises a VPN mildly degrades the trustworthiness of the whole enterprise [09:12:23] Or operated by an EU entity, I guess. [09:12:42] but before we continue this video... [09:12:51] A WORD FROM OUR SPONSOR [09:12:56] video killed the radio star [09:13:06] N O R D V P N [09:13:08] BTW, I and others log chat, including the IPs. [09:13:12] friendly reminder that sponsorblock exists [09:13:20] I have 4 GB of logs. [09:13:21] and that you should use it, because advertising rots your brain [09:13:34] i hate grammarly [09:13:38] yeah, I worked for PP and we could never figure out how NSAVPN could run with those small fees (and they give 100% to the affiliate) [09:13:44] Some logs are public. [09:13:46] it is literally 70% of my ads on youtube [09:14:07] darsie: I did not give you permission to store my chat texts :P [09:14:14] true [09:14:18] *calls lawyer* [09:14:21] THATS ILLEGAL [09:14:31] indeed, it probably would be [09:14:33] In what jurisdiction? [09:14:40] yours [09:14:41] #downwithdarsieparty on twitter [09:14:51] I don't do twitter. [09:14:53] or fb [09:14:57] or ig [09:15:07] nor jz? [09:15:11] what's that? [09:15:13] fedi or bust [09:15:18] nonexistant site lol [09:15:28] I don't do whatsapp [09:15:29] jz sounds like asm mnemonic [09:15:38] Jump if Zero [09:15:38] jump if zero [09:15:39] jump if zero [09:15:40] : [09:15:41] :) [09:15:49] jz sounds like a soundcloud rapper name [09:15:52] iz is winner, what wioth caps and all [09:15:55] but how did we get there? [09:16:06] through a call [09:16:51] Action: packbart pops the stack [09:16:52] calli [09:16:53] iret [09:17:00] There's a public log of an IRC channel with IPs: https://gnusha.org/logs/2008-03-27.log 21:23 -!- fenn_ [n=pz@adsl-76-252-191-250.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap [09:17:38] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [09:17:38] https://gnusha.org/logs/ [09:17:56] here, take a random non-suspicious google drive file of mine https://drive.google.com/file/d/13aONsPMLBZsj4VkfvDz0kaI3pGPEQOPl/view?usp=sharing [09:18:45] I had malware I received via email on my web server when it was still online. GPG encrypted. [09:19:08] lmao maybe you should've been smart [09:20:33] Do you play KSP? [09:20:42] ye? [09:20:46] do you even lift? :) [09:21:04] when you have fun, you don't need to lift [09:21:22] Action: darsie rides bike and climbs stairs. [09:21:30] what a drag [09:21:58] Sometimes I ruin my spine by lifting stuff. [09:22:19] i ruin my spine by existing [09:22:46] We're supposed to be quadpods. [09:23:15] Majin: Maybe a dedicated IRC client doesn't cut out that often. [09:23:21] a what [09:23:22] Majin: Maybe a dedicated IRC client doesn't cut out that often. [09:23:46] shut up [09:24:02] my device keeps trying to close the tab itself [09:24:06] Action: darsie hugs Majin. [09:24:09] silently [09:24:17] Action: packbart slaps darsie around a bit with a large trout [09:24:27] That's not vegan! [09:24:31] T R O U T S L A P [09:25:56] i am an official animal rights activist [09:26:06] hehe the classic trout [09:26:07] official. Got a badge? [09:26:17] People Eat Tasty Animals? [09:26:29] peta [09:26:30] Action: Majin flips out his Animal Activist bage [09:26:36] verified on twitter [09:26:45] Action: darsie has a lifetime v-card. [09:27:12] wow [09:27:13] Vegan society of Austria membership card [09:27:30] lmao imagine living in Austria [09:27:35] cringe [09:27:38] I got that for paying money, not being vegan. [09:27:49] that's cheating [09:27:59] It's easy to imagen for me. [09:28:01] I'm gonna have to revoke that card from you [09:28:03] imagine* [09:28:33] I'd give it to you for 400 EUR. [09:28:40] Action: Majin grabs darsie's v-card and rides away in his motorized shopping cart [09:29:26] speed [09:29:46] also i dont have any european money [09:29:57] I accept bitcoin and monero. [09:30:17] lmao bitcoin is so bad compared to what's being invested in right now [09:32:25] i would say what it is but nah [09:44:19] dumb client [09:44:46] DANG IT [09:44:52] マジン [09:46:04] ya'll remember Sunky.mpeg? [09:48:02] no [09:50:07] oh [09:50:17] well then [09:50:25] do you remember sonic.exe? [09:51:19] Are you TwistenX? [09:52:12] yep [09:52:30] should have known [09:52:48] you guys are so unsmart [09:53:05] everytime i change my identity it somehow confuses you [09:53:23] stop [09:53:29] no [09:53:43] you physically cannot make me [09:54:38] Action: darsie votes to quiet Majin for a minute. [09:55:12] your vote is not counted in this capitalistic land of infinite fun [09:55:37] For insulting me. [09:55:43] us [09:55:50] Althego: do it. [09:55:56] no [09:56:06] please [09:56:27] i don't regret it but please don't mute me again [09:56:31] hahaha [09:56:58] shut [09:57:44] Action: darsie jetpack deorbits Majin without a parachute. [09:57:55] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQRW0RM4V0k [09:57:57] but no [09:58:27] if this were a discord call i'd be screaming into my mic [09:59:04] the problem is, there is no hostmask, just ip [09:59:19] Majin: Try this: https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Jetpack_deorbit [09:59:22] or rather no host, and cant make a hostmask [09:59:27] me when the fun is infinite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHX6IBFXyzA [10:00:06] I like how some networks show a hash of the IP/host and a server-side salt instead of the actual host [10:01:31] yes [10:01:59] Majin: Or if you want a real challenge, try to jetpack to orbit from the surface of the Mun. [10:02:27] im not good enough at the game [10:02:37] git gud [10:03:02] i've never finished a mission (successfully) outside of the Kerbin-Mun-Minmus System. [10:03:15] Why not? [10:03:24] attention span too short [10:03:38] Izaya: ADHD gets you good as a teenager [10:04:32] Building a space station in Kerbol orbit is easy. [10:04:43] I'm usually never inspired enough and I don't finish missions [10:05:12] darsie: ehhhh... [10:06:33] an IR telescope in Kerbol orbit can give you all the money you need, but it requires some tech. [10:07:04] the Gigastructural Engineering mod for Stellaris adds a Kerbol system with a "Rogue Weaponised Eeloo" [10:07:31] there's a lot more space outside of any planetary systems and you gotta be moving fast to catch up with the core [10:08:39] a gilly space station sounds interesting [10:08:44] tera, peta, exa, (yocto?), (zepto?) [10:08:59] yocta, zepta* [10:09:10] Action: Majin dies by colliding with Kerbin's oceans at the speed of sound [10:09:19] the base game has megastructures [10:09:27] zetta, yotta [10:09:28] so gigastructural engineering also adds gigastructures and kilostructures [10:09:53] you can make extreme gigastructures with the infinite symmetry glitch [10:11:25] Wow, these KSP flash animations are cool [10:12:30] flash. which is not used by anything anymore [10:12:44] rip [10:12:48] :( [10:13:08] no, i hope it is in digital hell [10:13:16] screaming up at us [10:13:33] why [10:13:45] along with activex [10:13:49] wait im gonna go draw that [10:14:02] brb in about 10 minutes [10:14:59] birb in about 3 hours :) [10:15:07] (with a rat) [10:31:02] done [10:31:56] https://drive.google.com/file/d/149qScWcyizmeephAfrSH__T7rm2PGI4y/view?usp=sharing [10:32:34] adobe flash in digital hell (feat. Izaya, darsie, Majin, Althego, and raptop) [10:36:32] macromedia flash [10:37:31] yes [10:37:46] i am not going to log in unless absolutely necessary [10:37:49] which is about never [10:38:13] inside of Majin's mind: (what is he talking about?) (what's macromedia flash?) (where am i?) (im hungry) [10:39:57] Valentina eliminates coronavirus with an imperial star destroyer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH4XoFT8zqI [10:40:05] before adobe it was macromedia. but i didnt know that even before that it was futurewave [10:41:45] im not old enough to know that [10:43:15] even until its last day it was in the macromedia dir on windows [10:44:16] i want to see how ksp looked when it was 2d [10:44:29] it was never 2d [10:44:33] but there is a joke about it [10:44:44] GAHHHHHHH [10:44:49] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_16eZks21U [10:44:52] what is the joke [10:45:01] this video [10:45:16] ohh, that video [10:45:32] the chiptune is still better then the actual menu music [10:46:44] I told VAOS to sing the KSP theme and he didn't know which song i was talking about [10:47:15] he said that he thought KSP was just a bunch of copyright-free music stacked on top of each other (which is partly true) [10:47:26] most of it [10:47:46] the menu music is original. and i think the credits too [10:47:52] but nobody clicks on that :) [10:48:14] in my opinion, the main theme is one of the best tracks in-game [10:49:14] yes, but chip version is better [10:49:24] no [10:49:31] orchestral version [10:52:00] i also want an orchestral version of all the space tracks [11:04:34] HIDE AND SEEK [11:05:08] hidnseek.mid [11:05:34] 10 [11:05:36] 9 [11:05:37] 8 [11:05:39] 7 [11:05:39] 6 [11:05:41] 5 [11:05:42] 4 [11:05:43] 3 [11:05:44] 2 [11:05:45] 1 [11:05:56] foUnD yOu [11:16:50] give me your liver for free infinite fun [11:17:27] Adobe Gordon [11:17:44] what [11:18:04] flash, a-aaaa [11:18:26] (every time somebody mentions flash, i think of this) [11:18:57] Althego: now I want 8-bit KSP that's actually playable :-( [11:19:29] It's kind of cheating in that video when the rocket rotates and the pixels rotate with it [11:19:34] yes [11:19:37] that isn't a feature of real displays [11:19:47] fake news smh [11:19:49] there was also the 8bit starcraft [11:20:27] Flesh Gordon was a funny movie, too. Probably would be illegal today [11:21:10] [11:26:04] im going to drive over the speed limit [11:29:31] im going to be offline for a few days [11:29:34] dont ask why [11:29:45] why [11:31:24] i did something illegal [11:35:00] let me into your home, althego [13:06:13] kikkerikii [13:06:53] lol, who would put a chaos rat in a kitchen [14:10:55] "This page has been requested to be moved to Tutorials/Jetpack deorbit." Is this requested to be done by me? [14:13:14] I don't know. can you move pages in the wiki? [14:15:14] idk, is this a special privilege? [14:15:26] I can sure make a new one. [14:15:42] But not delete the old one. [14:16:39] I think it's a thing for a wiki admin to do [14:16:49] I don't see how I can move it. [14:42:16] hrm [14:45:46] "i like to move it move it" :) [14:48:36] I think it works better as Tutorials:Jetpack deorbit? [14:50:56] Was that a question? [14:51:20] well, it's been moved [14:51:56] "UmbralRaptor moved page Jetpack deorbit to Tutorial:Jetpack deorbit: requested" :) [14:52:14] only partially a question [14:53:16] hm. either Tutorial or Tutorial_s_ probably works [14:53:36] ( https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Tutorial redirects to Tutorials ) [14:53:59] ah, I see. the others also use singular [14:54:07] never mind me rambling. carry on [14:58:12] the only question that remains... "farther" or "further"? [15:02:03] Action: darsie added https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Tutorial:Low_tech_Duna_sample_return to https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Tutorials#Duna . [15:02:31] yay [15:02:37] no, the question is, if we have robot arms, why ant we have sample return without kerbals? [15:04:57] Well, it's possible for a kerbal to walk on the mun before they figure out basic radio-controlled rockets [15:05:08] or ladders [15:05:12] heh [15:05:20] and besides, there's a mod for that ;) [15:05:38] kerbals inveted the jepack before the ladder, like they're a TF2 meme [15:05:54] they invented rockets before wheels [15:06:24] it happens [15:25:01] raptop: given that ladder is a reactionless thruster with planet-exterminating capacities... [15:25:17] totally justified. [15:25:19] aaaaa [15:25:31] heh [15:26:32] raptop, hey prissy [15:26:38] danny can destroy planets in his 5 minute break with random parts [15:28:04] often klaws are involved [16:46:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:41:42] h [17:48:20] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBFCA48fUqE [17:48:34] WOOOOOOOO [17:48:39] HELL YEAH [17:49:27] (now i just need to get my hands on an Xbox Series XS for a reasonable price) [18:01:42] apparently you can launch yourself out of the solar system with only a velocity of ~5000 m/s at an altitude above Kerbin of 100-200km, and burning at Kerbin's prograde relative to Kerbol... [18:01:53] I wonder if this can be exploited :) [18:02:12] "only" [18:03:15] it's not that hard, nor expensive in funds [18:03:48] I did it with a Bobcat Engine, 5 Shrimp SRBs, and a Mite SRB [18:04:18] however, the satellite i launched is only ~3t [18:05:45] like your mom? [18:06:09] my mom is dead [18:06:28] just like the satellite isn't a living organism [18:07:21] who says? [18:08:15] you don't know what's inside the parts [18:16:34] kindergarden? [18:16:39] no [18:22:11] I loved Kindergarten :( [18:24:20] That was weird, flayer [18:28:27] "aerodynamics" is just a funny way to spell "more boosters" [18:30:03] is it better to use 4 KS-25 Engines with a fuel tank or to just use the Mammoth Engine? [18:30:11] yay I guess [18:30:16] THANK YOU DEDDLY I'M SO HAPPY [18:30:22] WOOOOOOOO [18:30:25] :) [18:30:56] (now i just need a Xbox Series XS, that's a reasonable and fitting price for what it's worth) [18:31:14] huh, same Isp, same overall thrust, but the Mammoth is 1 tonne lighter [18:31:14] How much are they? [18:31:30] expensive [18:31:34] (So I guess it's that 1 tonne vs which has the best drag characteristics) [18:31:43] not as much as the PS5 tho [18:32:27] How much is a PS5? [18:32:37] Don't make me Google it, man [18:32:48] it's very unreasonable [18:33:04] crackheads on ebay tryna sell it for $3000 USD [18:33:09] also less part count [18:33:18] Deddly: links https:// are clickable with KVIrc. [18:33:56] part count only usually matters with frame rates and the kraken [18:34:03] in practically all clients. unless you are in irssi via putty, then the terminal is too dumb [18:34:05] darsie, hmm? What link? [18:34:16] in the topic [18:34:28] bit.ly/ksp112update [18:34:30] I'm on Hexchat [18:34:34] Oh right [18:34:36] tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules [18:35:27] yeah, the links without an https:// aren't clickable for me (irssi+LXTerm) though the ones with are [18:36:28] Does that work, or does it have to be https? [18:36:33] that works [18:37:54] OK thera ya go. Links galore [18:38:07] wow [18:38:20] I can recommend Hexchat, by the way. Links work ;) [18:38:40] even without protocol part [18:38:41] Action: raptop slaps hexchat around with unicode (especially characters off the BMP) [18:38:59] undertale 3 [18:38:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:39:10] 6 MODS WOOOOOOOO [18:39:17] but sometimes it just doesnt want to open them, it knows they are links, but nothing happens. then i must right click [18:39:22] Ooh Dman979, hey :) [18:39:24] Behold! It is I, your Mod! [18:39:36] Hilight/copy/paste always works at least [18:39:46] Dman979: graphite? light water? heavy water? [18:39:52] Behold! I don't care. [18:40:07] lol [18:40:10] the moderator [18:40:47] How do I ban someone again? Asking for a friend who doesn't care [18:40:48] Whatever happened to Aplayer? [18:40:54] AAAAAAAHH [18:41:02] They became Aformerplayer [18:41:14] Action: raptop has no real idea. College maybe? [18:41:24] Dman979, you type /ban *!*c-98-235-164-132.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [18:41:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '-b TwistenX!*@*' by raptop!~Newpa_Has@ip98-169-16-17.dc.dc.cox.net [18:41:37] :( [18:41:38] wait, wrong sign [18:42:23] Action: TwistenX forces raptop to EVA outside of his capsule while entering Eve [18:42:44] Action: Dman979 rotates raptop to land on his helmet and survive [18:42:59] Action: raptop has apparently been kerbalized [18:43:01] no [18:43:04] stop [18:43:23] Stop what? [18:43:24] he was supposed to burn in the hellscape of entering Eve's atmosphere [18:43:30] Ah [18:44:09] Apparently he was in the cold side of the air flow until the atmosphere slowed him down enough. [18:44:18] darsie already tried to kill me yesterday by jetpack deorbiting [18:45:16] however, using my insanely high iq, i was able to exploit the aerodynamics engine and slammed into the ocean at several times to speed of sound and freaking died [18:46:19] Should have *landed* on your helmet [18:47:18] why does that save a kerbal?? [18:47:44] because it is a kerbal [18:48:26] Because it's a *helmet* [18:48:32] It protects your *head* [18:48:53] And if you land head-first, the head protects the rest of you [18:49:18] i dont think a spacesuit helmet would save you from smacking into the ground at mach 3 [18:49:27] Now, let's say you're not a Kerbal. [18:49:43] you die [18:49:55] Let's say you're a tigger. In that case, you'd want to land on your tail. [18:50:06] kitty! [18:50:09] hehe [18:50:15] i didnt expect that [18:50:17] Because tiggers are wonderful things. Their tops are made out of rubber, their bottoms are made out of springs! [18:50:54] Action: TwistenX shoots a tigger and turns them into the L-4 Landing Struts [18:50:58] :) [18:51:18] You can't do that, they're an endangered species [18:51:20] Does the helmet thing still exist? [18:51:37] shut up it's not illegal if you don't get caught [18:52:01] TwistenX: in older KSP versions at least, Kerbals could survive impacts at terminal velocity on Kerbin so long as they landed on their head [18:52:21] Still wouldn't work, TwistenX, because there's only one Tigger [18:52:21] leading to fun demonstrations of falling out of orbit [18:52:37] It would have made sense to remove that when they added parachutes [18:52:41] welcome to physics class where ksp makes no sense [18:53:50] and we can use these physics to ruin the game [18:53:58] *improve [18:56:56] average normal ksp players vs average ksp kraken drive/exploit user [18:57:16] https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi1.sndcdn.com%2Fartworks-BoVAwIzYSaFTvVVc-fS5P2w-t500x500.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fa-lefty%2Faverage-fan-vs-average-enjoyer&tbnid=X8WEHZnidUQ2fM&vet=12ahUKEwjXzOyrpZjzAhVrCjQIHWGvArgQMygJegUIARCNAQ..i&docid=gIUhUUpgy7UhAM&w=500&h=500&q=average%20fan&safe=active&ved=2ahUKEwjXzOyr [18:57:16] pZjzAhVrCjQIHWGvArgQMygJegUIARCNAQ [18:57:29] was the docking port drive fixed? [18:58:05] idk [18:59:09] i've honestly never made a kraken drive before [19:01:37] hey do you guys like pudding [19:02:09] not another one of deez jokes [19:02:44] :troll: [19:04:27] Action: darsie escapes Kerbol [19:05:31] Action: TwistenX falls into Kerbol [19:05:45] Try it. It's easier said than done. [19:06:40] How fast is Kerbin's orbital velocity? [19:06:46] Around Kerbol [19:07:21] 9285 m/s https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Kerbin [19:07:44] cool [19:08:04] so you only need ~8500 m/s to fall into Kerbol [19:09:19] !tell twistenx It's way easier if you exploit the Oberth effect and bi-elliptic transfers... [19:09:28] dees: It's way easier if you exploit the Oberth effect and bi-elliptic transfers... [19:09:45] yeah [19:10:05] it's me, bees evil brother [19:10:31] [X] doubt [19:11:08] bee gees, not bee dees :) [19:11:17] Action: X doubts [19:11:43] dees nuts [19:11:55] Action: raptop ponders [19:11:59] Lol [19:12:13] I haven’t seen a troll in a long time. [19:12:39] try something actually funny? [19:13:31] never [19:14:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+q twistenx!*@*' by raptop!~Newpa_Has@ip98-169-16-17.dc.dc.cox.net [19:14:36] doesnt help [19:14:49] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+b *!*@206.214.53.254' by raptop!~Newpa_Has@ip98-169-16-17.dc.dc.cox.net [19:14:58] that does [19:15:00] Why did I trust apparently you can launch yourself out of the solar system with only a velocity of ~5000 m/s at an altitude above Kerbin of 100-200km [19:15:32] It's accurate if you're going in the right direction (if the statement isn't 100% clear) [19:15:35] I get a Kerbol escape trajectory at 2727.3 m/s from 71 km orbit. [19:16:00] Is it really that much worse at 200 km? [19:16:15] I don't think he means Δv [19:16:21] #KSPOfficial: mode change '-q TwistenX!*@*' by raptop!~Newpa_Has@ip98-169-16-17.dc.dc.cox.net [19:16:36] hm [19:16:39] Did he mean total delta-v? [19:17:00] No, as in that's how fast you're going at that altitude [19:17:14] ah, webchat's like *that* [19:17:17] ah [19:17:26] :( [19:17:32] velocity, not delta v. [19:18:05] what's the purpose of ion engines [19:18:14] they're so ineffecient [19:18:22] Action: raptop headdesk [19:18:23] Only 4200 Isp. [19:18:48] and a low TWR even with small craft [19:18:54] Low thrust? Yes. Inefficient? Absolutely not. [19:19:14] they are ridiculously overpowered if you compare them to real ones [19:19:24] nevertheless i avoid using them [19:19:26] 2000 N vs. 250 mN irl. [19:19:30] you also can only recharge EC but not Xenon Gas [19:19:40] Like 3 or 4 orders of magnitude higher TWR, so with clever design you can hover in Mun or lower gravity [19:20:18] star wars logic [19:20:47] Dawn orbited two asteroids, a firts due to ion engines. [19:20:51] Star Wars logic is that old movies about WW2 and samurai are cool [19:21:02] (And they are!) [19:21:37] at least until ww3 [19:21:48] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn_(spacecraft) Dawn is a retired space probe that was launched by NASA in September 2007 with the mission of studying two of the three known protoplanets of the asteroid belt: Vesta and Ceres.[1] [19:22:02] ^ [19:22:09] Shame that they weren't able to pull off the Pallas flyby [19:23:32] With the propellant it carried, Dawn was able to perform a velocity change of approximately 11 km/s over the course of its mission, far more than any previous spacecraft achieved with onboard propellant after separation from its launch rocket.[58] [19:25:10] milk [19:25:33] Dawn finally launched from pad 17-B at the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station on a Delta 7925-H rocket[76] at 07:34 EDT,[77][78][79] reaching escape velocity with the help of a spin-stabilized solid-fueled third stage.[80][81] Thereafter, Dawn's ion thrusters took over. [19:26:52] ok [19:27:11] Ah, the best Delta II [19:29:15] there was a Titan rocket that had a bunch of SRBs [20:25:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:36:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:55:06] ;mission [20:55:07] XXCoder: You outsource the assembly of your rockets to Australia. You find the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow! [20:55:18] thanks australia! [20:57:57] plot twist; it's all stolen gold [20:59:58] ;mission [20:59:59] Dman979: You try adding a mission with the ;mission command. You are swarmed by drones, but thankfully they are from Amazon and come bearing gifts. [21:00:06] ;mission [21:00:06] Dman979: You attempt to drive your solar sail vessel with a flashlight. Unfortunately your Linux install lacks the Arial.ttf fonts so you have no idea what your outcome in KSP is. [21:00:22] ;mission [21:00:22] Dman979: You build a ship for the stated purpose of outrunning its own mass. A boat is in the way, and everyone complains until its interference is dealt with. [21:00:29] ;mission [21:00:29] Dman979: You attempt to aerobrake Jool in Eve's atmosphere. Your flightplan ends up being messed with by UmbralRaptor. [21:00:36] cool command [21:01:02] Dman979: you'll need more engines for the jool moving [21:04:23] Action: darsie sent a 3404 VF ship on Kerbol escape: https://i.postimg.cc/GLDcgD3n/screenshot356.png https://i.postimg.cc/knzJysmy/screenshot355.png [21:05:22] ;mission add Dman979 keeps requesting new missions. [21:05:23] FLHerne: Added mission: Dman979 keeps requesting new missions. [21:15:05] name a yellow fruit [21:19:00] Action: darsie sent a 3404 VF ship on Kerbol escape: https://i.postimg.cc/GLDcgD3n/screenshot356.png https://i.postimg.cc/knzJysmy/screenshot355.png [21:21:14] well, there's a friendship drive mod for KSP now [21:22:28] https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/204937-110x-112x-wip-kerbal-dangerous-ed-style-frame-shift-drive/ [22:09:34] ÿ [23:10:12] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net