[01:12:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:42:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Althego' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:11:17] <TwistenX> shut up [04:42:09] <TwistenX> :) [05:13:01] Last message repeated 4 time(s). [05:13:01] <TwistenX> lithobraking? [05:26:04] <TwistenX> anyways im outta here [05:26:11] <TwistenX> time to have infinite fun [07:34:15] <Guest43039> wow [07:34:26] <Guest43039> place really changed since the forum migration [07:41:44] <packbart> what changed? [07:54:56] <Guest43039> pretty dang empty [07:55:26] <Guest43039> :) [07:55:47] <XXCoder> lol its lready pretty empty here [07:56:00] <XXCoder> i first joined when this channel was over 800 people and text never stops [08:07:34] <packbart> well, it's IRC. pretty much unknown today [08:08:04] <packbart> the Reddit KSP Discord Thingy is quite active [08:12:03] <packbart> try talking KSP on Usenet... ;) [08:13:54] <Althego> hehe [08:17:18] <Izaya> services die when they are murdered [08:18:25] <packbart> but they aren't [08:19:38] <packbart> we're still here. and my NNTP server apparently still transfers Usenet articles between its peers. I just don't read them [08:20:44] <Izaya> was mostly talking about certain ... competitors acting hostile towards IRC, the zombie state of many channels makes me sad [08:25:38] <packbart> well, it's not what $people expect from their chat services nowadays [08:25:51] <packbart> <insert reaction.gif> [08:27:39] <packbart> irssi doesn't even have a quick emoji selector [08:28:30] <packbart> 🤔 [08:34:33] <Izaya> my terminal can't even render whatever that is :D [08:34:54] <Althego> thinking face emoji [08:35:01] <Althego> the terminal can render it [08:35:07] <Althego> you just need the font [08:35:14] <Izaya> sure, it could, if I had any fonts with that glyph installed :p [08:35:38] <packbart> it's standard since 2015 [08:36:33] <Izaya> I just install fonts that look nice for text, emoji don't tend to express anything important or interesting anyway [08:37:03] <packbart> I'd disagree [08:37:23] <Althego> not used much in irc [08:44:55] <Majin> Fun is infinite! [08:50:18] <Majin> ã‚»ã‚¬ã‚¨ãƒ³ã‚¿ãƒ¼ãƒ—ãƒ©ã‚¤ã‚ºã®æ¥½ã—ã•ã¯ç„¡é™å¤§ã§ã™ã€‚ -マジン。 [09:02:21] <Majin> why does this website give out your ip address [09:02:39] <Majin> isn't that kinda illegal [09:02:53] <Althego> how else would you expect the packets to find you? [09:03:06] <darsie> Which website? [09:03:12] <Althego> i guess webchat [09:03:22] <Majin> darsie: this website, dingus [09:03:30] <Izaya> I'm not using a website [09:03:31] <Althego> it is not a website [09:03:34] <Izaya> don't even have a web browser open [09:03:38] <darsie> idk what website you're talkind about? [09:03:42] <Majin> darsie: this webchat** dingus [09:03:44] <Althego> you are using a web client [09:03:58] <darsie> You're in an IRC chat. IRC is not web, just as email is not a web site. [09:04:17] <Althego> but for most people it is, because they use gmail through a browser [09:04:28] <Majin> . [09:04:40] <darsie> . [09:04:45] <Majin> what if i change my ip [09:04:46] <Izaya> , [09:05:03] <darsie> Then your packets will be routed another way. [09:05:03] <Althego> right now? [09:05:09] <Majin> sure [09:05:17] <Althego> the packets wouldnt find you and you would be disconnected [09:05:24] <Majin> o [09:05:42] <Majin> what packets [09:05:45] <Izaya> poor lost packets [09:06:03] <darsie> If you send an email, the headers may tell the recipient your IP. [09:06:22] <Majin> is that bad [09:06:26] <darsie> idk [09:06:30] <Izaya> not usually [09:06:48] <Majin> o ok [09:07:27] <Majin> HIDE AND SEEK - ACT 1 [09:07:30] <Izaya> an IP address alone only really tells you which ISP that IP is currently controlled by [09:07:51] <Althego> and in many cases approximate location on earth [09:08:02] <darsie> https://www.iplocation.net/ip-lookup says you're from Lynnwood Lilliwaup Shelton Union [09:08:06] <Althego> too late [09:08:37] <Majin> approximate?? [09:08:42] <darsie> https://www.iplocation.net/ip-lookup says you're from Lynnwood Lilliwaup Shelton Union [09:08:52] <Majin> me? [09:08:56] <darsie> yes [09:08:57] <packbart> an IP address is considered private data under GDPR rules, though [09:09:02] <Althego> there are geoip databases that try to correlate you location with ip [09:09:19] <Majin> AHHHHHH [09:09:24] <Majin> I HATE IT [09:09:31] <Althego> so usually you could get a city, maybe a district [09:09:33] <Majin> IT'S ACTUALLY CLOSE [09:09:36] <darsie> Maybe IRC is not for you. [09:09:47] <darsie> Try discord or so. [09:09:52] <Althego> hehe [09:09:58] <Althego> does that help? [09:10:01] <darsie> idk [09:10:04] <Althego> i dont know how it works [09:10:16] <darsie> Also avoid email. [09:10:19] <Althego> sooner or later there has to be an ip somewhere for bidirectional communication [09:10:22] <Izaya> it used to not proxy media requests [09:10:34] <Izaya> so you could post an image URL and get all the clients that fetch it [09:10:46] <Majin> oh ok [09:10:55] <packbart> discord doesn't disclose your IP to all the channel members. and mail servers can be configured to strip that information, too [09:10:58] <Izaya> I'm told that's been fixed, but I've never used it [09:10:59] <Althego> you could use a vpn. if you dont feel sick instantly on the mention, because of all the youtube channels advertising vpns [09:11:15] <darsie> Worry about pics in emails, even 1x1 pixel pics. They may be loaded from a web server telling the email sender your IP. [09:11:22] <packbart> I've got some Perfect Privacy coupons somewhere... [09:11:39] <darsie> I use simple HTML view for emails. [09:11:46] <Majin> https://drive.google.com/file/d/12X3qWiCMCQNvZdvr2-F7DBXtQETCIYkw/view?usp=sharing [09:11:58] <packbart> darsie: those servers also fall under GDPR [09:12:13] <darsie> If they're in the EU. [09:12:17] <packbart> IRC flies deep enough under the radar so that nobody really cares [09:12:18] <Izaya> it's kind of neat how every youtube video that advertises a VPN mildly degrades the trustworthiness of the whole enterprise [09:12:23] <darsie> Or operated by an EU entity, I guess. [09:12:42] <Majin> but before we continue this video... [09:12:51] <Majin> A WORD FROM OUR SPONSOR [09:12:56] <Althego> video killed the radio star [09:13:06] <Majin> N O R D V P N [09:13:08] <darsie> BTW, I and others log chat, including the IPs. [09:13:12] <Izaya> friendly reminder that sponsorblock exists [09:13:20] <darsie> I have 4 GB of logs. [09:13:21] <Izaya> and that you should use it, because advertising rots your brain [09:13:34] <Majin> i hate grammarly [09:13:38] <packbart> yeah, I worked for PP and we could never figure out how NSAVPN could run with those small fees (and they give 100% to the affiliate) [09:13:44] <darsie> Some logs are public. [09:13:46] <Majin> it is literally 70% of my ads on youtube [09:14:07] <packbart> darsie: I did not give you permission to store my chat texts :P [09:14:14] <darsie> true [09:14:18] <packbart> *calls lawyer* [09:14:21] <Majin> THATS ILLEGAL [09:14:31] <packbart> indeed, it probably would be [09:14:33] <darsie> In what jurisdiction? [09:14:40] <packbart> yours [09:14:41] <Majin> #downwithdarsieparty on twitter [09:14:51] <darsie> I don't do twitter. [09:14:53] <darsie> or fb [09:14:57] <darsie> or ig [09:15:07] <XXCoder> nor jz? [09:15:11] <darsie> what's that? [09:15:13] <Izaya> fedi or bust [09:15:18] <XXCoder> nonexistant site lol [09:15:28] <darsie> I don't do whatsapp [09:15:29] <Althego> jz sounds like asm mnemonic [09:15:38] <Izaya> Jump if Zero [09:15:38] <darsie> jump if zero [09:15:39] <XXCoder> jump if zero [09:15:40] <darsie> : [09:15:41] <darsie> :) [09:15:49] <Majin> jz sounds like a soundcloud rapper name [09:15:52] <XXCoder> iz is winner, what wioth caps and all [09:15:55] <Althego> but how did we get there? [09:16:06] <packbart> through a call [09:16:51] Action: packbart pops the stack [09:16:52] <Althego> calli [09:16:53] <packbart> iret [09:17:00] <darsie> There's a public log of an IRC channel with IPs: https://gnusha.org/logs/2008-03-27.log 21:23 -!- fenn_ [n=pz@adsl-76-252-191-250.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap [09:17:38] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [09:17:38] <darsie> https://gnusha.org/logs/ [09:17:56] <Majin> here, take a random non-suspicious google drive file of mine https://drive.google.com/file/d/13aONsPMLBZsj4VkfvDz0kaI3pGPEQOPl/view?usp=sharing [09:18:45] <darsie> I had malware I received via email on my web server when it was still online. GPG encrypted. [09:19:08] <Majin> lmao maybe you should've been smart [09:20:33] <darsie> Do you play KSP? [09:20:42] <Majin> ye? [09:20:46] <Althego> do you even lift? :) [09:21:04] <Majin> when you have fun, you don't need to lift [09:21:22] Action: darsie rides bike and climbs stairs. [09:21:30] <packbart> what a drag [09:21:58] <darsie> Sometimes I ruin my spine by lifting stuff. [09:22:19] <Majin> i ruin my spine by existing [09:22:46] <darsie> We're supposed to be quadpods. [09:23:15] <darsie> Majin: Maybe a dedicated IRC client doesn't cut out that often. [09:23:21] <Majin> a what [09:23:22] <darsie> Majin: Maybe a dedicated IRC client doesn't cut out that often. [09:23:46] <Majin> shut up [09:24:02] <Majin> my device keeps trying to close the tab itself [09:24:06] Action: darsie hugs Majin. [09:24:09] <darsie> silently [09:24:17] Action: packbart slaps darsie around a bit with a large trout [09:24:27] <darsie> That's not vegan! [09:24:31] <Majin> T R O U T S L A P [09:25:56] <Majin> i am an official animal rights activist [09:26:06] <Althego> hehe the classic trout [09:26:07] <darsie> official. Got a badge? [09:26:17] <packbart> People Eat Tasty Animals? [09:26:29] <Althego> peta [09:26:30] Action: Majin flips out his Animal Activist bage [09:26:36] <Majin> verified on twitter [09:26:45] Action: darsie has a lifetime v-card. [09:27:12] <Majin> wow [09:27:13] <darsie> Vegan society of Austria membership card [09:27:30] <Majin> lmao imagine living in Austria [09:27:35] <Majin> cringe [09:27:38] <darsie> I got that for paying money, not being vegan. [09:27:49] <Majin> that's cheating [09:27:59] <darsie> It's easy to imagen for me. [09:28:01] <Majin> I'm gonna have to revoke that card from you [09:28:03] <darsie> imagine* [09:28:33] <darsie> I'd give it to you for 400 EUR. [09:28:40] Action: Majin grabs darsie's v-card and rides away in his motorized shopping cart [09:29:26] <Majin> speed [09:29:46] <Majin> also i dont have any european money [09:29:57] <darsie> I accept bitcoin and monero. [09:30:17] <Majin> lmao bitcoin is so bad compared to what's being invested in right now [09:32:25] <Majin> i would say what it is but nah [09:44:19] <Majin> dumb client [09:44:46] <Majin> DANG IT [09:44:52] <Majin> マジン [09:46:04] <Majin> ya'll remember Sunky.mpeg? [09:48:02] <Althego> no [09:50:07] <Majin> oh [09:50:17] <Majin> well then [09:50:25] <Majin> do you remember sonic.exe? [09:51:19] <darsie> Are you TwistenX? [09:52:12] <Majin> yep [09:52:30] <Althego> should have known [09:52:48] <Majin> you guys are so unsmart [09:53:05] <Majin> everytime i change my identity it somehow confuses you [09:53:23] <Izaya> stop [09:53:29] <Majin> no [09:53:43] <Majin> you physically cannot make me [09:54:38] Action: darsie votes to quiet Majin for a minute. [09:55:12] <Majin> your vote is not counted in this capitalistic land of infinite fun [09:55:37] <darsie> For insulting me. [09:55:43] <darsie> us [09:55:50] <darsie> Althego: do it. [09:55:56] <Majin> no [09:56:06] <Majin> please [09:56:27] <Majin> i don't regret it but please don't mute me again [09:56:31] <darsie> hahaha [09:56:58] <Majin> shut [09:57:44] Action: darsie jetpack deorbits Majin without a parachute. [09:57:55] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQRW0RM4V0k [09:57:57] <Althego> but no [09:58:27] <Majin> if this were a discord call i'd be screaming into my mic [09:59:04] <Althego> the problem is, there is no hostmask, just ip [09:59:19] <darsie> Majin: Try this: https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Jetpack_deorbit [09:59:22] <Althego> or rather no host, and cant make a hostmask [09:59:27] <Majin> me when the fun is infinite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHX6IBFXyzA [10:00:06] <Izaya> I like how some networks show a hash of the IP/host and a server-side salt instead of the actual host [10:01:31] <Majin> yes [10:01:59] <darsie> Majin: Or if you want a real challenge, try to jetpack to orbit from the surface of the Mun. [10:02:27] <Majin> im not good enough at the game [10:02:37] <Althego> git gud [10:03:02] <Majin> i've never finished a mission (successfully) outside of the Kerbin-Mun-Minmus System. [10:03:15] <darsie> Why not? [10:03:24] <Izaya> attention span too short [10:03:38] <Majin> Izaya: ADHD gets you good as a teenager [10:04:32] <darsie> Building a space station in Kerbol orbit is easy. [10:04:43] <Majin> I'm usually never inspired enough and I don't finish missions [10:05:12] <Majin> darsie: ehhhh... [10:06:33] <darsie> an IR telescope in Kerbol orbit can give you all the money you need, but it requires some tech. [10:07:04] <Izaya> the Gigastructural Engineering mod for Stellaris adds a Kerbol system with a "Rogue Weaponised Eeloo" [10:07:31] <Majin> there's a lot more space outside of any planetary systems and you gotta be moving fast to catch up with the core [10:08:39] <Majin> a gilly space station sounds interesting [10:08:44] <darsie> tera, peta, exa, (yocto?), (zepto?) [10:08:59] <darsie> yocta, zepta* [10:09:10] Action: Majin dies by colliding with Kerbin's oceans at the speed of sound [10:09:19] <Izaya> the base game has megastructures [10:09:27] <darsie> zetta, yotta [10:09:28] <Izaya> so gigastructural engineering also adds gigastructures and kilostructures [10:09:53] <Majin> you can make extreme gigastructures with the infinite symmetry glitch [10:11:25] <Majin> Wow, these KSP flash animations are cool [10:12:30] <Althego> flash. which is not used by anything anymore [10:12:44] <Majin> rip [10:12:48] <Majin> :( [10:13:08] <Althego> no, i hope it is in digital hell [10:13:16] <Althego> screaming up at us [10:13:33] <Majin> why [10:13:45] <Althego> along with activex [10:13:49] <Majin> wait im gonna go draw that [10:14:02] <Majin> brb in about 10 minutes [10:14:59] <Althego> birb in about 3 hours :) [10:15:07] <Althego> (with a rat) [10:31:02] <Majin> done [10:31:56] <Majin> https://drive.google.com/file/d/149qScWcyizmeephAfrSH__T7rm2PGI4y/view?usp=sharing [10:32:34] <Majin> adobe flash in digital hell (feat. Izaya, darsie, Majin, Althego, and raptop) [10:36:32] <Althego> macromedia flash [10:37:31] <Majin> yes [10:37:46] <Althego> i am not going to log in unless absolutely necessary [10:37:49] <Althego> which is about never [10:38:13] <Majin> inside of Majin's mind: (what is he talking about?) (what's macromedia flash?) (where am i?) (im hungry) [10:39:57] <Majin> Valentina eliminates coronavirus with an imperial star destroyer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH4XoFT8zqI [10:40:05] <Althego> before adobe it was macromedia. but i didnt know that even before that it was futurewave [10:41:45] <Majin> im not old enough to know that [10:43:15] <Althego> even until its last day it was in the macromedia dir on windows [10:44:16] <Majin> i want to see how ksp looked when it was 2d [10:44:29] <Althego> it was never 2d [10:44:33] <Althego> but there is a joke about it [10:44:44] <Majin> GAHHHHHHH [10:44:49] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_16eZks21U [10:44:52] <Majin> what is the joke [10:45:01] <Althego> this video [10:45:16] <Majin> ohh, that video [10:45:32] <Althego> the chiptune is still better then the actual menu music [10:46:44] <Majin> I told VAOS to sing the KSP theme and he didn't know which song i was talking about [10:47:15] <Majin> he said that he thought KSP was just a bunch of copyright-free music stacked on top of each other (which is partly true) [10:47:26] <Althego> most of it [10:47:46] <Althego> the menu music is original. and i think the credits too [10:47:52] <Althego> but nobody clicks on that :) [10:48:14] <Majin> in my opinion, the main theme is one of the best tracks in-game [10:49:14] <Althego> yes, but chip version is better [10:49:24] <Majin> no [10:49:31] <Majin> orchestral version [10:52:00] <Majin> i also want an orchestral version of all the space tracks [11:04:34] <Majin> HIDE AND SEEK [11:05:08] <Althego> hidnseek.mid [11:05:34] <Majin> 10 [11:05:36] <Majin> 9 [11:05:37] <Majin> 8 [11:05:39] <Majin> 7 [11:05:39] <Majin> 6 [11:05:41] <Majin> 5 [11:05:42] <Majin> 4 [11:05:43] <Majin> 3 [11:05:44] <Majin> 2 [11:05:45] <Majin> 1 [11:05:56] <Majin> foUnD yOu [11:16:50] <Majin> give me your liver for free infinite fun [11:17:27] <packbart> Adobe Gordon [11:17:44] <Majin> what [11:18:04] <Althego> flash, a-aaaa [11:18:26] <Althego> (every time somebody mentions flash, i think of this) [11:18:57] <FLHerne> Althego: now I want 8-bit KSP that's actually playable :-( [11:19:29] <FLHerne> It's kind of cheating in that video when the rocket rotates and the pixels rotate with it [11:19:34] <Althego> yes [11:19:37] <FLHerne> that isn't a feature of real displays [11:19:47] <Majin> fake news smh [11:19:49] <Althego> there was also the 8bit starcraft [11:20:27] <packbart> Flesh Gordon was a funny movie, too. Probably would be illegal today [11:21:10] <Majin> [11:26:04] <Majin> im going to drive over the speed limit [11:29:31] <Majin> im going to be offline for a few days [11:29:34] <Majin> dont ask why [11:29:45] <Izaya> why [11:31:24] <Majin> i did something illegal [11:35:00] <Majin> let me into your home, althego [13:06:13] <Althego> kikkerikii [13:06:53] <Althego> lol, who would put a chaos rat in a kitchen [14:10:55] <darsie> "This page has been requested to be moved to Tutorials/Jetpack deorbit." Is this requested to be done by me? [14:13:14] <packbart> I don't know. can you move pages in the wiki? [14:15:14] <darsie> idk, is this a special privilege? [14:15:26] <darsie> I can sure make a new one. [14:15:42] <darsie> But not delete the old one. [14:16:39] <packbart> I think it's a thing for a wiki admin to do [14:16:49] <darsie> I don't see how I can move it. [14:42:16] <raptop> hrm [14:45:46] <Althego> "i like to move it move it" :) [14:48:36] <raptop> I think it works better as Tutorials:Jetpack deorbit? [14:50:56] <darsie> Was that a question? [14:51:20] <packbart> well, it's been moved [14:51:56] <packbart> "UmbralRaptor moved page Jetpack deorbit to Tutorial:Jetpack deorbit: requested" :) [14:52:14] <raptop> only partially a question [14:53:16] <packbart> hm. either Tutorial or Tutorial_s_ probably works [14:53:36] <packbart> ( https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Tutorial redirects to Tutorials ) [14:53:59] <packbart> ah, I see. the others also use singular [14:54:07] <packbart> never mind me rambling. carry on [14:58:12] <packbart> the only question that remains... "farther" or "further"? [15:02:03] Action: darsie added https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Tutorial:Low_tech_Duna_sample_return to https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Tutorials#Duna . [15:02:31] <raptop> yay [15:02:37] <Althego> no, the question is, if we have robot arms, why ant we have sample return without kerbals? [15:04:57] <raptop> Well, it's possible for a kerbal to walk on the mun before they figure out basic radio-controlled rockets [15:05:08] <packbart> or ladders [15:05:12] <raptop> heh [15:05:20] <packbart> and besides, there's a mod for that ;) [15:05:38] <raptop> kerbals inveted the jepack before the ladder, like they're a TF2 meme [15:05:54] <Althego> they invented rockets before wheels [15:06:24] <packbart> it happens [15:25:01] <bees> raptop: given that ladder is a reactionless thruster with planet-exterminating capacities... [15:25:17] <bees> totally justified. [15:25:19] <raptop> aaaaa [15:25:31] <Althego> heh [15:26:32] <flayer> raptop, hey prissy [15:26:38] <Althego> danny can destroy planets in his 5 minute break with random parts [15:28:04] <raptop> often klaws are involved [16:46:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:41:42] <Majin> h [17:48:20] <Majin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBFCA48fUqE [17:48:34] <Majin> WOOOOOOOO [17:48:39] <Majin> HELL YEAH [17:49:27] <Majin> (now i just need to get my hands on an Xbox Series XS for a reasonable price) [18:01:42] <Majin> apparently you can launch yourself out of the solar system with only a velocity of ~5000 m/s at an altitude above Kerbin of 100-200km, and burning at Kerbin's prograde relative to Kerbol... [18:01:53] <Majin> I wonder if this can be exploited :) [18:02:12] <flayer> "only" [18:03:15] <Majin> it's not that hard, nor expensive in funds [18:03:48] <Majin> I did it with a Bobcat Engine, 5 Shrimp SRBs, and a Mite SRB [18:04:18] <Majin> however, the satellite i launched is only ~3t [18:05:45] <flayer> like your mom? [18:06:09] <Majin> my mom is dead [18:06:28] <flayer> just like the satellite isn't a living organism [18:07:21] <Majin> who says? [18:08:15] <Majin> you don't know what's inside the parts [18:16:34] <kubi> kindergarden? [18:16:39] <TwistenX2> no [18:22:11] <Mat2ch> I loved Kindergarten :( [18:24:20] <Deddly> That was weird, flayer [18:28:27] <TwistenX> "aerodynamics" is just a funny way to spell "more boosters" [18:30:03] <TwistenX> is it better to use 4 KS-25 Engines with a fuel tank or to just use the Mammoth Engine? [18:30:11] <raptop> yay I guess [18:30:16] <TwistenX> THANK YOU DEDDLY I'M SO HAPPY [18:30:22] <TwistenX> WOOOOOOOO [18:30:25] <Deddly> :) [18:30:56] <TwistenX> (now i just need a Xbox Series XS, that's a reasonable and fitting price for what it's worth) [18:31:14] <raptop> huh, same Isp, same overall thrust, but the Mammoth is 1 tonne lighter [18:31:14] <Deddly> How much are they? [18:31:30] <TwistenX> expensive [18:31:34] <raptop> (So I guess it's that 1 tonne vs which has the best drag characteristics) [18:31:43] <TwistenX> not as much as the PS5 tho [18:32:27] <Deddly> How much is a PS5? [18:32:37] <Deddly> Don't make me Google it, man [18:32:48] <TwistenX> it's very unreasonable [18:33:04] <TwistenX> crackheads on ebay tryna sell it for $3000 USD [18:33:09] <Althego> also less part count [18:33:18] <darsie> Deddly: links https:// are clickable with KVIrc. [18:33:56] <TwistenX> part count only usually matters with frame rates and the kraken [18:34:03] <Althego> in practically all clients. unless you are in irssi via putty, then the terminal is too dumb [18:34:05] <Deddly> darsie, hmm? What link? [18:34:16] <darsie> in the topic [18:34:28] <darsie> bit.ly/ksp112update [18:34:30] <Deddly> I'm on Hexchat [18:34:34] <Deddly> Oh right [18:34:36] <darsie> tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules [18:35:27] <raptop> yeah, the links without an https:// aren't clickable for me (irssi+LXTerm) though the ones with are [18:36:28] <Deddly> Does that work, or does it have to be https? [18:36:33] <raptop> that works [18:37:54] <Deddly> OK thera ya go. Links galore [18:38:07] <TwistenX> wow [18:38:20] <Deddly> I can recommend Hexchat, by the way. Links work ;) [18:38:40] <Althego> even without protocol part [18:38:41] Action: raptop slaps hexchat around with unicode (especially characters off the BMP) [18:38:59] <TwistenX> undertale 3 [18:38:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:39:10] <TwistenX> 6 MODS WOOOOOOOO [18:39:17] <Althego> but sometimes it just doesnt want to open them, it knows they are links, but nothing happens. then i must right click [18:39:22] <Deddly> Ooh Dman979, hey :) [18:39:24] <Dman979> Behold! It is I, your Mod! [18:39:36] <raptop> Hilight/copy/paste always works at least [18:39:46] <raptop> Dman979: graphite? light water? heavy water? [18:39:52] <TwistenX> Behold! I don't care. [18:40:07] <Althego> lol [18:40:10] <Althego> the moderator [18:40:47] <Dman979> How do I ban someone again? Asking for a friend who doesn't care [18:40:48] <Deddly> Whatever happened to Aplayer? [18:40:54] <TwistenX> AAAAAAAHH [18:41:02] <Dman979> They became Aformerplayer [18:41:14] Action: raptop has no real idea. College maybe? [18:41:24] <Deddly> Dman979, you type /ban *!*c-98-235-164-132.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [18:41:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '-b TwistenX!*@*' by raptop!~Newpa_Has@ip98-169-16-17.dc.dc.cox.net [18:41:37] <TwistenX> :( [18:41:38] <raptop> wait, wrong sign [18:42:23] Action: TwistenX forces raptop to EVA outside of his capsule while entering Eve [18:42:44] Action: Dman979 rotates raptop to land on his helmet and survive [18:42:59] Action: raptop has apparently been kerbalized [18:43:01] <TwistenX> no [18:43:04] <TwistenX> stop [18:43:23] <Deddly> Stop what? [18:43:24] <TwistenX> he was supposed to burn in the hellscape of entering Eve's atmosphere [18:43:30] <Deddly> Ah [18:44:09] <Deddly> Apparently he was in the cold side of the air flow until the atmosphere slowed him down enough. [18:44:18] <TwistenX> darsie already tried to kill me yesterday by jetpack deorbiting [18:45:16] <TwistenX> however, using my insanely high iq, i was able to exploit the aerodynamics engine and slammed into the ocean at several times to speed of sound and freaking died [18:46:19] <Dman979> Should have *landed* on your helmet [18:47:18] <TwistenX> why does that save a kerbal?? [18:47:44] <Althego> because it is a kerbal [18:48:26] <Dman979> Because it's a *helmet* [18:48:32] <Dman979> It protects your *head* [18:48:53] <Dman979> And if you land head-first, the head protects the rest of you [18:49:18] <TwistenX> i dont think a spacesuit helmet would save you from smacking into the ground at mach 3 [18:49:27] <Dman979> Now, let's say you're not a Kerbal. [18:49:43] <TwistenX> you die [18:49:55] <Dman979> Let's say you're a tigger. In that case, you'd want to land on your tail. [18:50:06] <raptop> kitty! [18:50:09] <Althego> hehe [18:50:15] <Althego> i didnt expect that [18:50:17] <Dman979> Because tiggers are wonderful things. Their tops are made out of rubber, their bottoms are made out of springs! [18:50:54] Action: TwistenX shoots a tigger and turns them into the L-4 Landing Struts [18:50:58] <TwistenX> :) [18:51:18] <Dman979> You can't do that, they're an endangered species [18:51:20] <FLHerne> Does the helmet thing still exist? [18:51:37] <TwistenX> shut up it's not illegal if you don't get caught [18:52:01] <FLHerne> TwistenX: in older KSP versions at least, Kerbals could survive impacts at terminal velocity on Kerbin so long as they landed on their head [18:52:21] <Dman979> Still wouldn't work, TwistenX, because there's only one Tigger [18:52:21] <FLHerne> leading to fun demonstrations of falling out of orbit [18:52:37] <FLHerne> It would have made sense to remove that when they added parachutes [18:52:41] <TwistenX> welcome to physics class where ksp makes no sense [18:53:50] <TwistenX> and we can use these physics to ruin the game [18:53:58] <Dman979> *improve [18:56:56] <TwistenX> average normal ksp players vs average ksp kraken drive/exploit user [18:57:16] <TwistenX> https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi1.sndcdn.com%2Fartworks-BoVAwIzYSaFTvVVc-fS5P2w-t500x500.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fa-lefty%2Faverage-fan-vs-average-enjoyer&tbnid=X8WEHZnidUQ2fM&vet=12ahUKEwjXzOyrpZjzAhVrCjQIHWGvArgQMygJegUIARCNAQ..i&docid=gIUhUUpgy7UhAM&w=500&h=500&q=average%20fan&safe=active&ved=2ahUKEwjXzOyr [18:57:16] <TwistenX> pZjzAhVrCjQIHWGvArgQMygJegUIARCNAQ [18:57:29] <Althego> was the docking port drive fixed? [18:58:05] <TwistenX> idk [18:59:09] <TwistenX> i've honestly never made a kraken drive before [19:01:37] <TwistenX> hey do you guys like pudding [19:02:09] <Althego> not another one of deez jokes [19:02:44] <TwistenX> :troll: [19:04:27] Action: darsie escapes Kerbol [19:05:31] Action: TwistenX falls into Kerbol [19:05:45] <darsie> Try it. It's easier said than done. [19:06:40] <TwistenX> How fast is Kerbin's orbital velocity? [19:06:46] <TwistenX> Around Kerbol [19:07:21] <raptop> 9285 m/s https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Kerbin [19:07:44] <TwistenX> cool [19:08:04] <TwistenX> so you only need ~8500 m/s to fall into Kerbol [19:09:19] <raptop> !tell twistenx It's way easier if you exploit the Oberth effect and bi-elliptic transfers... [19:09:28] <raptop> dees: It's way easier if you exploit the Oberth effect and bi-elliptic transfers... [19:09:45] <dees> yeah [19:10:05] <dees> it's me, bees evil brother [19:10:31] <raptop> [X] doubt [19:11:08] <Althego> bee gees, not bee dees :) [19:11:17] Action: X doubts [19:11:43] <dees> dees nuts [19:11:55] Action: raptop ponders [19:11:59] <X> Lol [19:12:13] <X> I haven’t seen a troll in a long time. [19:12:39] <raptop> try something actually funny? [19:13:31] <TwistenX> never [19:14:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+q twistenx!*@*' by raptop!~Newpa_Has@ip98-169-16-17.dc.dc.cox.net [19:14:36] <Althego> doesnt help [19:14:49] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+b *!*@206.214.53.254' by raptop!~Newpa_Has@ip98-169-16-17.dc.dc.cox.net [19:14:58] <Althego> that does [19:15:00] <darsie> Why did I trust <Majin> apparently you can launch yourself out of the solar system with only a velocity of ~5000 m/s at an altitude above Kerbin of 100-200km [19:15:32] <raptop> It's accurate if you're going in the right direction (if the statement isn't 100% clear) [19:15:35] <darsie> I get a Kerbol escape trajectory at 2727.3 m/s from 71 km orbit. [19:16:00] <darsie> Is it really that much worse at 200 km? [19:16:15] <raptop> I don't think he means Δv [19:16:21] #KSPOfficial: mode change '-q TwistenX!*@*' by raptop!~Newpa_Has@ip98-169-16-17.dc.dc.cox.net [19:16:36] <raptop> hm [19:16:39] <darsie> Did he mean total delta-v? [19:17:00] <raptop> No, as in that's how fast you're going at that altitude [19:17:14] <raptop> ah, webchat's like *that* [19:17:17] <darsie> ah [19:17:26] <TwistenX> :( [19:17:32] <darsie> velocity, not delta v. [19:18:05] <TwistenX> what's the purpose of ion engines [19:18:14] <TwistenX> they're so ineffecient [19:18:22] Action: raptop headdesk [19:18:23] <darsie> Only 4200 Isp. [19:18:48] <TwistenX> and a low TWR even with small craft [19:18:54] <Dman979> Low thrust? Yes. Inefficient? Absolutely not. [19:19:14] <Althego> they are ridiculously overpowered if you compare them to real ones [19:19:24] <Althego> nevertheless i avoid using them [19:19:26] <darsie> 2000 N vs. 250 mN irl. [19:19:30] <TwistenX> you also can only recharge EC but not Xenon Gas [19:19:40] <raptop> Like 3 or 4 orders of magnitude higher TWR, so with clever design you can hover in Mun or lower gravity [19:20:18] <TwistenX> star wars logic [19:20:47] <darsie> Dawn orbited two asteroids, a firts due to ion engines. [19:20:51] <raptop> Star Wars logic is that old movies about WW2 and samurai are cool [19:21:02] <raptop> (And they are!) [19:21:37] <Althego> at least until ww3 [19:21:48] <darsie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn_(spacecraft) Dawn is a retired space probe that was launched by NASA in September 2007 with the mission of studying two of the three known protoplanets of the asteroid belt: Vesta and Ceres.[1] [19:22:02] <raptop> ^ [19:22:09] <raptop> Shame that they weren't able to pull off the Pallas flyby [19:23:32] <darsie> With the propellant it carried, Dawn was able to perform a velocity change of approximately 11 km/s over the course of its mission, far more than any previous spacecraft achieved with onboard propellant after separation from its launch rocket.[58] [19:25:10] <TwistenX> milk [19:25:33] <darsie> Dawn finally launched from pad 17-B at the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station on a Delta 7925-H rocket[76] at 07:34 EDT,[77][78][79] reaching escape velocity with the help of a spin-stabilized solid-fueled third stage.[80][81] Thereafter, Dawn's ion thrusters took over. [19:26:52] <TwistenX> ok [19:27:11] <raptop> Ah, the best Delta II [19:29:15] <TwistenX> there was a Titan rocket that had a bunch of SRBs [20:25:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:36:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:55:06] <XXCoder> ;mission [20:55:07] <LunchBot> XXCoder: You outsource the assembly of your rockets to Australia. You find the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow! [20:55:18] <XXCoder> thanks australia! [20:57:57] <TwistenX> plot twist; it's all stolen gold [20:59:58] <Dman979> ;mission [20:59:59] <LunchBot> Dman979: You try adding a mission with the ;mission command. You are swarmed by drones, but thankfully they are from Amazon and come bearing gifts. [21:00:06] <Dman979> ;mission [21:00:06] <LunchBot> Dman979: You attempt to drive your solar sail vessel with a flashlight. Unfortunately your Linux install lacks the Arial.ttf fonts so you have no idea what your outcome in KSP is. [21:00:22] <Dman979> ;mission [21:00:22] <LunchBot> Dman979: You build a ship for the stated purpose of outrunning its own mass. A boat is in the way, and everyone complains until its interference is dealt with. [21:00:29] <Dman979> ;mission [21:00:29] <LunchBot> Dman979: You attempt to aerobrake Jool in Eve's atmosphere. Your flightplan ends up being messed with by UmbralRaptor. [21:00:36] <Dman979> cool command [21:01:02] <UmbralRaptor> Dman979: you'll need more engines for the jool moving [21:04:23] Action: darsie sent a 3404 VF ship on Kerbol escape: https://i.postimg.cc/GLDcgD3n/screenshot356.png https://i.postimg.cc/knzJysmy/screenshot355.png [21:05:22] <FLHerne> ;mission add Dman979 keeps requesting new missions. [21:05:23] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Added mission: Dman979 keeps requesting new missions. [21:15:05] <TwistenX> name a yellow fruit [21:19:00] Action: darsie sent a 3404 VF ship on Kerbol escape: https://i.postimg.cc/GLDcgD3n/screenshot356.png https://i.postimg.cc/knzJysmy/screenshot355.png [21:21:14] <packbart> well, there's a friendship drive mod for KSP now [21:22:28] <packbart> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/204937-110x-112x-wip-kerbal-dangerous-ed-style-frame-shift-drive/ [22:09:34] <TwistenX> ÿ [23:10:12] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net