[00:36:21] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:16:24] https://twitter.com/DSLauretta/status/1033056705255366661 [01:16:24] Here it is - the first image of Bennu. This milestone is incredibly important to the @OSIRISREx team. Let the scien& https://t.co/rp0xlxxRXh [02:24:22] You can visually tell the difference between DVD and Blu-Ray, DVD has a LOT more visual artifact rainbows than Blu-Ray has. [04:05:25] hehe i just noticed that gif in the topic [04:22:59] i never understood why that is even a discussion to be had [04:23:27] because you speak a phonetic language [04:23:32] to me and you it is obvious it is a hard g [04:23:40] for english speakers it is not obvious [04:25:49] well, here there are still like 5 different ways to pronounce "g", depending in dialect :p [04:26:32] but it is never a j :) [04:27:58] if you're around berlin, g is often pronounced as j (well, more like english y) [04:28:19] then it is just sad [04:28:41] i have heard jut [04:28:48] yes [04:29:47] or i should have said: "jenau" :p [04:29:59] sick [04:30:47] often also in combination: "janz jut" [04:31:33] "jibts doch jarnich" [04:31:39] hehe [04:33:42] "jenuch" [that's a second "g" in there) [04:34:34] (compare with english "enough") [04:39:10] hehe [04:39:52] lol, "the van allen belts are rad" [04:40:32] probably adjustable by allen wrench [04:45:14] Action: UmbralRaptor hopes that that wrench is magnetized [04:46:15] just for the purpose of making it more difficult to lose it while operating in space :p [04:46:22] the bakery doesnt open today. until the 30th. have to go to the spar instead [04:54:06] about the only thing that bakery does well are bread rolls, but those are good. now i have to eat the ones from the spar, which are unknown quality [04:58:16] i haven't seen a spar in like 20 years [05:15:45] http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2018/0824-hayabusa2-team-announces-landing-site.html [05:16:15] still no sign of the base that should be there (ryugu haven) [05:16:25] therefore these are fake cgi nasa pictures [05:18:31] one day i'll make an attempt at the Ryukyu achievement [05:19:25] Althego: JAXA, so a conspiracy would have to be international. [05:19:32] i know [05:19:36] Action: UmbralRaptor stares at the illuminati [05:19:38] but that is what they always say [05:19:58] ibn typical american fashion, as if there was no other space agency [05:20:05] what good conspiracy ISN'T international? [05:20:53] yes, the whole universe is in it [05:21:18] if they can keep up a conspiracy to make the people believe the world is round, they certainly can manage THAT [05:21:45] https://xkcd.com/1274/ [05:25:10] there are some really great conspiracy theories that later turned out to be true [05:26:07] true [05:26:24] but most of them are just conspiracy theories [05:26:36] or rather they were true by accident [05:28:24] TheKosmonaut WHADDUP [05:28:37] stupid_chris: you live [05:28:44] I live [05:28:52] wanna get jelly my dude [05:29:00] Depends [05:29:04] and then there was snowden, who published truths that were even more dire than most of the conspiracy theories [05:29:11] TheKosmonaut https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/b/HbdXsY [05:29:32] and therefore the us government hates him [05:29:34] >no pictures [05:29:53] theres like 25 pics bruh [05:29:56] stupid_chris: Boi you know I can't read [05:29:57] 23 [05:29:58] on top [05:30:06] LOL [05:30:12] theere are pics [05:30:13] so is this through a text to speach? [05:30:16] are you on mobile? [05:30:23] stupid_chris: yeah [05:30:29] I'll switch to laptop in a min [05:30:30] p sure mobile also shows the pics [05:30:59] Not that I can see [05:31:11] TheKosmonaut, click the picture top left [05:31:16] Are they in your wallotext? [05:31:24] probably because your brain blocks them as ads [05:31:33] they are on top [05:31:36] nah, there should be a tiny one up top, then you can go through them [05:31:51] first i ignored them too, because surely those are only ads [05:31:52] /kick stupid_chris we don't allow NSFW content here. [05:32:01] if only [05:32:26] been rocking this big boy for the past two months [05:32:28] its fun [05:32:38] The Witcher 3 in 4k is one hell of a ride [05:32:57] Action: TheKosmonaut didn't enjoy TW3 [05:33:04] HERESY [05:33:17] ¯\_(Ä)_/¯ [05:33:29] Good looking game tho [05:33:38] Just I ain't got time no more [05:33:49] yeah, my full playthrough took me 155h [05:33:57] my summer was lit [05:34:59] hehe [05:35:13] I overpaid my 1080ti though [05:35:22] not mad that I didnt wait for Turing though... [05:35:41] also praise Ryzen [05:35:54] which is completely useless for a game that uses at best a few threads [05:36:02] 8c/16t@4.2GHz for 380$? sign me up boi [05:36:09] its not for gaming [05:36:11] but i am happy that amd is making a comeback [05:36:14] and intel is failing [05:36:29] because it means competition, and that results in lower prices [05:36:39] if I wanted to get a good gaming CPU I wouldnt have gone higher than 2600 [05:36:54] I need 8c for professional workloads [05:37:04] multiple VMs, threaded compilation, CPU rendering, etc [05:37:14] it's also the reason I went with 32Gb ram [05:37:22] it has a place there [05:37:24] VMs eat the crap out of RAM [05:37:45] that is why most of the time i stick with chroots and lxcs [05:37:49] like legit though, if you wanted 8c/16t back in 2016, we were talking i7-6900k [05:38:03] which was a 1200$ chip [05:38:22] the fact I have the same core count and same clock speed for less than 400$ is insane [05:38:49] yeah, but it's hard getting a good dev environment going on lightweight linux distros [05:39:11] they essentially packaged smaller chips together, that way yield is higher [05:39:21] you can never beat that in a sinlge chip design [05:39:27] opening some of my smallest C++ projects would anihilate my VM on my laptop [05:39:34] although certain workloads would suffer from it [05:39:58] yeah, but I don't do too heavy stuff [05:40:08] my OC actually crashes after 10mins of Prime95 [05:40:14] hehe [05:40:17] but I never actually push my chip that hard [05:40:42] if I want it to actually survive long runs of P95, I have to bump the voltage from 1.375V to 1.425 [05:40:54] not worth it considering it's stable for my workloads [05:41:14] there is not much to be gained by oc on modern processors [05:41:20] gettings pretty good temps, but I did slap a 360mm AIO on it lmao [05:41:21] they already doing that to themselves [05:41:32] well, not all cores [05:42:10] my TimeSpy CPU score went up like 40% after my OC [05:42:31] and my Cinebench score went up considerably as well [07:41:01] TheKosmonaut is Imgur album embedding broken on the forums? [08:05:29] Maybe [08:05:36] Or maybe not [08:05:46] Aladeen imgur does what it wants [08:06:04] do what you want 'cause a pirate is free [08:29:02] TheKosmonaut, I'm getting weird "the album will be posted when the post is submitted" shenanigans [08:29:11] like... the post is submitted [08:29:40] i.e. https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/167748-ksp-unofficial-official-computer-buildingbuying-megathread-all-questions-acceptable/&do=findComment&comment=3439509 [08:48:24] you should combine the satellite dish with an rc plane, and build a small awacs :) [08:48:47] "small" [08:49:25] bigger than the 8 cm one on my speakers [08:49:49] yeah but I would need a rather large plane to even fit the dish [08:49:56] not to mention the drag [08:49:56] i know [08:50:21] you could put it inside the body, would work through the plastic [08:50:34] yeah but is big [08:50:42] I could point it up or down but not much use then [08:50:46] exept for a ground radaer [09:12:47] then turn it into airborn deathray [09:16:56] give me the laser then [11:51:24] build an obelisk of light https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWz2x5Htpn0 [11:51:24] YouTube - Command & Conquer - Nod Obelisk of Light Sound effect [11:53:53] Bzzzzz zappp [11:55:33] but this was not the original effect [12:07:28] huh my friend is not home [12:07:46] guess I should fly the vg33 then, if I break it I will have another week to rebuild it [12:40:47] man, i played the original C&C so long ago, it feels like another lifetime [15:53:28] cant get the flay away from the screen with the mouse cursor [15:55:10] Anyone have a warp-capable craft using KSPI ? I can't seem to get the right power requirements to make it work [15:57:53] I can barely get a fully electric vehicle working [15:58:22] (ions or other such propulsion) [15:58:23] vehicle manufactured. robot manufactured. territory lost [15:58:58] ions are just painful. even if they are 1000 times more powerful than in reality [15:59:21] nasa has people to watch it burn for months, i dont have that kind of time [16:04:42] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/482943395321610255/snaproll.png [16:05:03] hah proof of concave earth [16:06:18] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/482943798050160640/dfhdh.png [16:27:23] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:19:09] I have been watching some videos about black holes [17:19:46] sicne the time dilation becomes infinite at the event horizon, that means stuff that falls in never actually falls in the black hole for a outside observer [17:20:04] but if you throw a car in a black hole and measure the mass, would it become greater? [17:20:40] but I guess from the viewpoint of the car it falls in just fine [17:21:02] so for an outside observer, does the car stop just before the event horizon but its mass gets added to the black hle? [17:21:13] Pretty much. [17:21:19] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:21:33] There is also something called the holographic principle [17:21:50] Where whatever falls into the Black becomes part of its surface [17:22:54] The object would unroll itself over the surface or some creepy shit like it [17:23:22] black holes are too complicated [17:23:26] Action: TheKosmonaut blows dust off of the laminated rule-sheet [17:23:27] remove them [17:23:43] in a way they are not, they have only a few properties [17:23:49] Action: TheKosmonaut obnoxiously taps on language rule line and thumbs nose at Medu [17:24:01] Ah yes I forgot the rules. [17:24:04] This has been your daily session of "annoying moderator" [17:24:13] Your cooperation is appr--- mandatory [17:24:22] Been a while since the last time. Sorry. xD [17:24:26] "thank you for your cooperation" [17:24:55] Action: TheKosmonaut stows PDCs [17:24:59] Action: TheKosmonaut returns to running dark [17:25:07] But honestly I doubt black holes are really singularities [17:25:20] /nick TheKosminante [17:25:23] Maybe from our viewpoint [17:25:39] But I wouldnt wonder if there is an entire universe going inside of them [17:25:43] that depends on what quantumgravity does [17:25:50] And if that is how universes come to be [17:27:32] If time grinds to a halt it will never reach the center of mass... ever... not within the scope of our universe. [17:29:44] And with that in mind it cant really be a singularity then. [17:33:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:34:59] But then again I think that general relativity is pretty much flawed anyway. [17:35:07] in what way? [17:35:14] it has to be incomplete at least [17:35:15] It was never developed with particle physics in mind. [17:35:20] exactly [17:35:35] Hence why it refuses to work with it. [17:35:43] it doesnt mean it is wrong [17:35:51] It probably is though [17:36:08] every last prediction of it was confirmed [17:36:26] It may abstractly describe what happens on a grand scale but it definitely lacks solutions in extreme situations [17:41:54] I need to finish my series of kerbal labelled maps [17:42:15] I only made the Mun and Minmus [17:42:21] yes we need those [17:42:24] The worst part about it is that we dont even know how the force is mediated... if it is a hypothetical particle like the graviton or if it is an attribute of spacetime itself. [17:42:49] and that is why gravity is the least understood force [17:43:54] and you have a point there that general relativity might be fundamentally incorrect, even if it gives correct results, because if it is not a distortion of space time but a particle it is a failure [17:44:11] Probably always be too... because from what I read once a hypothetical setup to measure the existence of gravitons would be so huge it would require such a huge shielding that it might even collapse to a black hole itself. [17:44:26] hehe [17:44:49] but there is gravitational waves measurement, at even that seemed to be impossible a few years ago [17:45:56] yeah humans are weird, they say a thing is impossible then they do it immediatly [17:46:02] well if gravity is quantized as particles then that should be visible as gaps in the spectrum of gravitational waves [17:46:36] maybe in a few decades [17:46:51] several instruments under constructin and these are just the crudest instruments [17:46:58] they are like the first telescopes [17:47:47] But honestly quantum gravity without gravitons sounds kinda un-scientific. [17:48:19] I mean would we really accept that spacetime bends itself magically just by the existence of mass? [17:48:53] all over the distance of entire solar systems, galaxies and the entire universe [17:49:15] Sounds like crap imho [17:53:01] i dont even know what mass is since the higgs [17:53:10] Some kind of force mediator has to be there or we can go back to ether world models. [17:54:11] xD [17:56:06] I think the weirdest finding in quantum stuff is that they found out that what you don't measure doesn't actually exist or something like that. [17:57:03] Which basically means we could be creating and at the same time experience the world all around us just by being sentient beings living inside of it. [17:57:12] Makes me think of Inception. [17:59:09] https://www.sciencealert.com/reality-doesn-t-exist-until-we-measure-it-quantum-experiment-confirms [17:59:11] That stuff. [18:01:05] i liked the quantum chesire cat better [18:01:28] where the property of the particles was separated from the particles [18:01:37] like the smile of the chesire cat [18:02:36] my screen on the right has much more saturation than my screen on the left but is fine because left is my main screen and right is for irc and discord and other stuff like that [18:02:46] The thought is weird but if taken to reality it would mean the wall behind me doesnt exist unless I look at it. oO [18:04:46] The universe is just a simulation and by that it is trying to save performance. xD [18:04:55] that can be [18:05:07] I wouldnt wonder about that either. [18:05:11] but i dont like that idea, so until there is some evidence for it i just ignore it [18:30:46] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:42:15] https://i.redd.it/820s4f823wh11.jpg [18:43:51] it is looking better, but i dont like the stripes or grooves or whatever they are https://gfycat.com/PerfumedDifferentGoldfinch [18:44:33] at least the window is a bit shiny [18:44:48] come on people, a shader is literally zero cpu, add soem shine [18:57:10] for the first time, my mun mission in a new save used a separate command module and lander [18:57:39] by doing that, I was able to land 3 times before going home [19:03:35] did a contact to hit 3 or 4 spots above the surface of the mun. Went out with a command ship and a drone. Got all the spots, nearly ran out of fuel getting the drone back. [19:14:48] wow, i just came home, and while glancing over the screen i had this weird 3D-effect. turns out it's not on the screen, but there's a spider hanging down a few cm in front of the screen [19:15:31] :-) [19:15:51] but really, it's hanging right in the center :p [19:15:58] https://imgur.com/jtwWAT7 spaceplane testing [19:15:58] https://i.imgur.com/jtwWAT7.jpg [19:17:00] i'm not entirely sure how such a thing can reach space... [19:17:28] or fly, for that matter :p [19:18:17] what huge engines [19:19:04] hrm [19:19:17] This is shown without the large external tanks [19:19:27] s'ok.. my cheetah is just a regular plane, stupid crazy big jet engines. [19:19:45] the huge engines are for lifting said tanks [19:19:49] Wait, does that have a butterfly tail for legit reasons? [19:20:07] V tail? ya looks it [19:21:05] Tail does pitch and yaw, wings do roll. [19:21:24] and the baker does the bread roll :) [19:21:41] v tail are great [19:21:45] I find V tails tend to cause a bit of roll if you not careful [19:21:55] not as much as regular ones, depends on placement [19:21:57] they are used in some racing airplanes because less drag [19:22:03] is there some sophisticated physics behind those? [19:22:11] same planes that only have a aileron on one wing and single blade props [19:22:25] Fluburtur: I'm used to seeing people in KSP use them where a conventional tail would be better. [19:22:34] sorta physics, in the real world, there is also some complications in the mechanics connecting them to the stick [19:23:09] well it has a v tail because a normal tail would be blasted off by exhaust [19:23:11] im not sure there is a hard rule to decide wether you need a regular or v tail [19:23:18] more like what is more convenient [19:23:29] but the best is inverted v tail because it makes the plane roll the right way [19:23:38] so, sort of a legit reason? [19:23:55] i've once seen some drone tube thing, which had a 1-wing propeller on each end of the tube, and some electrics and programming to control the propeller speed on a really fine level, to steer it [19:24:08] complexity, you do loose a bit of control because the surfaces aren't acting directly on the direction you want to go [19:25:42] you don't really lose that much [19:26:02] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-tail [19:26:13] I need to make another v tail aircraft [19:26:18] no but surfaces do end up having to be a little bit bigger [19:26:20] https://imgur.com/FjTXFEH [19:26:20] https://i.imgur.com/FjTXFEH.jpg [19:26:31] hehe interesting design [19:26:39] still smaller total area than a regular tail [19:26:47] Also, a normal tailfin would be sticking thru the external tanks [19:26:49] i would have just use one long tank [19:27:03] less drag, less mass [19:27:04] Oren huh... those tanks, you got the pointed facing up instead [19:28:01] matter of preferences.. [19:30:02] isn't "pointy end up" one of the kerbal beginner rules? [19:31:32] hmm tank separation needs work [19:31:37] https://imgur.com/uSY2YKf [19:31:37] https://i.imgur.com/uSY2YKf.jpg [19:32:29] ah, using fuel in part of the pointed section [19:33:24] Oh, semi-reusable spaceplane, capable of carrying 2 tourists or cadets. [19:33:42] hrm [19:39:07] I've done rocket planes as spaceplanes... some with drop tanks [19:39:38] tolerances are a little tight though, gotta get the launch path done jsut right or don't make it [19:42:42] kerbal engineer can't calculate this correctly [19:43:01] I need to be able to put an engine shutdown command in the stage diagram [19:50:51] well, not as if I'm actually flying this with the spacebar anyway [19:51:44] https://imgur.com/MP9Kjvb [19:51:44] https://i.imgur.com/MP9Kjvb.jpg [19:58:22] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:08:38] be nice if you could stage actions like you do decouplers rather than have it set to every time you hit spacebar [20:09:10] you can stage a lot of things [20:09:30] I've had a few things where I only need it done once during a staging section, be nice rather than having to hit or use up a number key.. or maybe I'm just lazy [20:10:36] like... one creation I only need the RCS ports on a injection stage going till a certain stage went off... [20:10:59] then having the crafts own internal RCS was needed [20:12:16] eh well.. weather today turned nasty, guess telling me to get my head in the game, work on recording stuff [20:22:23] https://imgur.com/Owk3gzd [20:22:23] https://i.imgur.com/Owk3gzd.png [20:23:33] lol I see they still havent fixed the north pole anomaly [20:23:44] why would they :) [20:23:46] ya... though my kerbals just faceplant [20:23:59] or at least camera snaps directly over top of them [20:24:22] you can jump over it.. watch camera go crazy.. just don't land on the four corners [20:24:26] https://imgur.com/ARW9cqH [20:24:26] https://i.imgur.com/ARW9cqH.png [20:24:55] trying to land near it is a pain... causes camera pan as you get closer [20:26:00] nice thing about the poles and no planet tilt.. sun.. all day every day :) [20:26:32] well ok.. more like morning or evening sun but still [20:26:53] Plant flag right on the pole :D [20:28:38] can you even pick up flag if you place it wrong or is it stuck there? [20:28:57] normally you can [20:30:06] just realized... any pics of kerbin map I can use in a video? [20:30:42] wiki? [20:30:52] or turn on the cheat [20:31:15] something of an idea came up, means I need to mark down locations for the video [20:31:22] map of kerbin? [20:32:33] looking over kerbin map.. still says its on temp server? [20:33:02] seeing a lot of small islands, then feeling a little sad the game makes the planet so baren [20:34:32] I guess this idea of a tour of kerbin... checking out the islands, rivers some other stuff. but without buildings or the likes, sorta.. eh.. [20:34:41] has heavy meteor bombardment [20:34:50] even if there are more kerbals they are underground [20:35:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:35:59] lol... so KSC has a hidden anti meteor protection system somewhere? Would it be heavy lasers or nuke missile launching? [20:40:21] ksc by itself is small [20:40:27] unlikely to be hit [20:42:38] but the planet is subject to the asteroid impacts [20:45:20] I do see the two big hits.. but they looked aged, one more than the toher [20:51:01] hoping 2t cargo vs 4.5t isn't going to take up the last of my fuel reserves for this flight test... [20:51:28] JVFoxy: that tells us that kerbals live underground if lands of grass and trees is a novelity.' [20:51:38] explains lack of everything besides rocket base [20:52:27] or they just live at the center... creating new ones on a whim [20:58:09] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:22:51] https://imgur.com/DDDNcHd [21:22:52] https://i.imgur.com/DDDNcHd.jpg [21:23:06] this will take awhile [21:27:47] hola [21:29:09] https://78.media.tumblr.com/6c26a42420b47a25e36e819b6f3a8620/tumblr_pddhotLUzQ1qgo9vko1_540.jpg [21:33:22] Unlike minmus and the Mun where all the unique areas have biomes and therefore official names, I have to come up with names for all these thingies [21:33:50] I have a better solution for names [21:34:11] send a bunch of suborbital rockets all across the planet and areas get the names of the kerbals that ended there [21:37:16] Hmm, yeah I can just get kerbal names from random kerbals [21:42:08] Eh, first I'll do the other planets [23:14:34] Apparently Eve's Foothills are higher than the Peaks [23:15:33] It can be inferred therefore that Evebals constantly walk on their hands [23:29:29] https://imgur.com/4cotiF7 [23:29:29] https://i.imgur.com/4cotiF7.jpg [23:45:49] german heavy tank defeated by car with potato gun https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/483057737769549836/20180826012328_1.jpg