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[14:29:38] <Samario> q: is there a specific channel that i should be asking in for help w/ mods
[15:20:03] <UmbralRaptop> If the mod in question has its own channel, maybe (eg: #principia) 
[17:45:02] <SDS200> hmm is there a way to use 4x symmetry on top of a 8x symmetry part?
[17:45:12] <SDS200> e.g. for placing RCS thrusters..
[17:45:27] <Althego> there is one
[17:45:33] <Althego> first take a part
[17:45:39] <Althego> then put it on top
[17:45:48] <Althego> use symmetry on it and put the stuff you want on it
[17:46:09] <Althego> then take this part with all the parts on it, activate desired symmetry and put it somewhere
[17:46:19] <Althego> after tyhis you cant move the sub parts because they lose their symmetry
[17:49:07] <UmbralRaptop> There's also that switching off symmetry option I think? 
[17:49:25] <Althego> yes but you have to do that individually
[17:49:37] <Althego> it is there since the last update
[17:50:59] <SDS200> hmm not sure if I get what you mean
[20:41:00] <darsie> My friend landed on Duna at 16-17 m/s on a chute without landing burn. No damage. Spark made first contact.
[20:41:12] <darsie> Slope, but not very steep.
[20:41:41] <darsie> The rocket did slide a bit, so the chute cut 30-60 s later.
[20:41:44] <darsie> that steep
[20:42:24] <UmbralRaptop> eep
[20:44:05] <darsie> Does EVA fuel have mass?
[20:53:54] <SDS200> darsie, apparently it doesn't
[20:54:04] <SDS200> but the post I found is fairly old so that might've been changed
[20:59:27] <darsie> I'm getting fairly constant 128 m/s/EVA fuel, no matter how much fuel is left. So no mass. That would give them 640 m/s total.
[20:59:47] <darsie> KER says 94 kg all the time.
[21:02:29] <SDS200> yeah that's the mass of a Kerbal I think
[21:02:39] <SDS200> that sounds about right
[21:03:27] <darsie> using their personal RCS jetpacks, which have a Δv of 600 m/s RCS https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Extra-Vehicular_Activity
[21:11:10] <SDS200> darsie, very useful if you have to get out and push
[21:15:00] <darsie> 640 m/s. The wiki is wrong, if you ask me.
[21:15:32] <darsie> Just burned 4.99 EVA fuel and extrapolated to 5. 640.08 m/s.
[21:16:14] <darsie> 10 Gm circular solar orbit, facing radial out, burning left/prograde.
[21:17:05] <darsie> 10827.4 m/s --> 11466.2 m/s
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[21:23:07] <darsie> https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com is slow.
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[21:39:50] <darsie> https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com keeps dropping my session.
[21:46:09] <darsie> Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. 
[21:46:13] <darsie> I give up.
[22:25:35] <lordcirth> Hasn't the wiki been broken for over 5 years now?
[22:26:39] <UmbralRaptop> hit or miss. time to complain to someone with proper admin access? 
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