[00:16:31] Now that E.L. is defunct, what mods can Iuse to build ships in orbit? [00:54:02] Is EL defunct? [00:54:07] I missed that [00:54:16] taniwha? [00:54:19] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:56:13] https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/54284-140-142-extraplanetary-launchpads-v600/&page=209 doesn't look defunct to me Azander [01:29:59] EL is not defunct [01:30:16] Azander: what makes you think EL is defunct? [01:32:10] Sorry.. wrong mod. I went and re-looked. Glad to see that one still being maintained :) [01:32:21] :) [01:32:34] I'm looking for a mod that allows me to build ships in orbit [01:32:44] That's EL? [01:32:48] EL will do that [01:32:51] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:33:09] Azander: last used EL before ksp 0.22? [01:33:52] No... 1.2 [01:34:21] heh, EL's orbital construction must have slipped your notice [01:35:22] probably [01:35:34] I've been using one that linuxgamer inherited, then discontinues [01:37:23] *Discontinued [01:39:26] EL now has effectively 4 modes of construction: landed with pad, landed via survey, orbital, and extension. Though really 3 as orbital and landed with pad are really the same [01:39:59] :) [01:40:12] extension uses a one-shot pad that gets replaced by the build, and the build becomes a permanent part of the parent vessel [01:41:01] hmmm. Loading now. 74 mods takes a while to load :/ [01:41:09] yeah [01:47:01] expandable runway.. that's interesting. [02:18:54] Action: UmbralRaptop misread that as expendable runway. [02:20:23] "50,000 people used to live here, now it's a ghost town." [02:29:14] KrazyKrl: DON'T. MOVE. A. MUSCLE. [04:03:40] Boba Fett movie <-- what's next then? admiral akbar movie? [04:05:30] Eddi|zuHause: i would watch that [04:05:40] Naval space warmovie [04:07:57] Cantina Band movie! [04:09:50] it's just the same song over and over for 2.5h [04:28:00] Eddi|zuHause: oh, they pipe in commercial radio? [04:56:50] https://hackaday.com/2018/05/23/spacexs-next-giant-leap-second-stage-recovery/ [05:34:25] taniwha: it's disney, do they do anything that is NOT "commercial"? [06:27:59] Eddi|zuHause: im sad. the initial speculation was that it would be an obi wan movie [06:28:08] y'know an actual major character [06:28:18] not some side character that people love for no reason [06:33:46] what is this about? [06:34:13] would be interesting to see what happened to obi wan between the 2 trilogies [06:34:27] or not, he tried to hide [06:36:16] Rokker: HOW DARE YOU [06:36:33] Boba Fett survived the Sarlacc pit, a feat accomplished by nobody else [06:36:36] not even a Jedi [06:37:01] in robot chicken at least [06:37:15] dont know about the real lore [06:38:09] but if this is about sidney star wars movies, with the last jedi i gave up on the frenchise [06:38:25] i have no intention to suport them going down this road [06:39:07] Althego: You mean to say, they're going down a path that you cannot follow? [06:43:38] boba fett died and im glad he did [06:46:56] i mean they are destroying star wars [06:47:31] we thoght the prequel trilogies were bad. they are nowhere near as bad as the disney movies [07:02:02] Althego: i wholly disagree [07:02:06] very much so [07:02:23] star wars is better than it ever was when lucas' grubby little hands were on it [07:10:24] "...collision likelihood in GEO is as much as 4 orders of magnitude higher than previously published by other researchers.... collision likely to occur every 4 years for one satellite out of the entire GEO active satellite population against a 1 cm RSO catalogue...#spacejunk https://t.co/Hwo4F3Adjs https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/999910195793772546 [07:10:25] "...collision likelihood in GEO is as much as 4 orders of magnitude higher than previously published by other resea& https://t.co/PIY6ibPvBf [07:10:33] jesu cristo [08:46:27] So, you all heard about Tajmar's latest paper about the EM drive and that it doesn't work? Well, some experts on EM drives hold against it that Tajmar didn't have a working EM drive at all [08:47:59] Mat2ch: orrrrr [08:48:07] Mat2ch: EM drive doesnt work at all [08:49:30] https://twitter.com/FxPhilW/status/999561793381920768 [08:49:31] @Franck_McBecker @VAXHeadroom @fcain @Redshift42 @arstechnica Paul March (head EW engineer) did a scan of the cavit& https://t.co/XWrQbYo5tW [08:49:53] Rokker: then tell me why Eagleworks did see something [08:50:59] something that was 50 times greater than Tajmar [08:55:02] Mat2ch: because eagleworks needs to try to justify their existence [08:57:35] Mat2ch: might i remind you that up til that point Eagleworks most notable thing was a highly conceptual interstellar warp ship [08:57:42] fan art of it at that [08:58:22] now im not saying anything, but i wouldnt be surprised if they are seeing the numbers they want and not the mistakes [09:02:57] Suprising very few... it turns out that not being able to put megawatts into practically a broadcaster tends to be a poor source of thrust. [09:14:09] so my new phone screen seems to finally arrive this evening, and I absolutely need my phone tomorrow, so now I'm wondering if it's better to install it right away or to not mess with the phone [09:14:43] KrazyKrl: The real question is: If it works, why does it work. If we know the why, we might be able to amplify it [09:15:42] Well... there's this thing called reaction mass and this guy named einstien that postulated this other thing... [09:16:29] turns out you need lots of energy to get any reasonable force. [09:16:35] well, Einstein couldn't figure out parts of quantum physics [09:17:44] Mat2ch: mostly because he didn't want to for religious reasons [09:19:34] TheKosmonaut: so ive been doing some thinking [09:20:43] Mat2ch: thats not so bad when you realize Tesla didnt believe in the electron [09:21:36] I mean... even now it's a "best guess" [09:21:38] Einstein might not have been able to figure out some quantum mechanics but he still knew what he was talking about [09:21:51] KrazyKrl: what, electrons? [09:22:50] TheKosmonaut: oi [09:22:52] lol. science is no more than "best guess" anyway [09:24:11] im so tired of that mindset [09:24:16] is it technically true, sure [09:24:18] gravity is only a best guess. it could be an omnipotent invisible cat throwing everything off the edge for all we know. [09:24:27] It's all voodoo clouds. [09:24:30] but if those best guesses werent true, then most of our crap wouldnt work [09:24:31] And magnets. [09:24:34] so shove it [09:24:58] Why's Earth? Magnets. [09:25:46] KrazyKrl, then how do polar bears and penguin go to the right pole without having a sense of magnetism [09:25:56] checkmate, magnetists [09:26:04] Because of the monkey thing. [09:26:05] Rokker, yeah it's kinda implied that these best guesses were made by people who are both smarter and more knowledgeable by those who use the results of their work [09:26:07] TheKosmonaut: OI [09:26:16] TheKosmonaut: IVE BEEN DOING SOME THINKING [09:26:30] where is he [09:30:18] Maybe cutting stick figures out of generic sliced ham, and recreating the German advance through Belgium. [09:30:47] I mean... that's totally not my weekend plans or anything. [09:32:22] TheKosmonaut: quit having a life [09:44:19] all scientific theories are the current best guesses [09:45:24] most accurate guesses* [09:45:29] the difference is that they tried as hard as they could to show they dont work [09:45:34] and they failed to do that [10:03:43] [...] and recreating the German advance through Belgium. <-- in real time? wasn't that like 18 days or so? [10:17:22] TheKosmonaut: fdfdshfsd [10:18:07] is that english? [10:19:51] it's a rokkerism [10:29:18] hehe [10:29:33] Rokker, damn, now I have something to tell him too [10:30:05] TheKosmonaut: where are you, i want to complain about the Battlefield V trailer [10:30:48] have you ever had a deliveryman ring your doorbell just for them to notice that they didn't bring the package [10:31:26] "is this you?" "...yes" apologizes and runs back to van [10:31:41] lolwut [10:31:50] must be new [10:32:13] hehe [10:33:54] Rokker, I'm not actually sure if I heard a van, there was other traffic as well. there's a rumour that yamato assigns people who screw up to bicycles [10:34:41] or you must have been a scary gaijin [10:35:25] and delivery drivers appear to be overworked pretty badly, can't blame them for a mistake like that [10:36:30] or you must have been a scary gaijin <-- they all look alike? [10:36:53] maybe, i dont know [10:37:35] TheKosmonaut: god dammit I wanna complain about BF V to you so i can go to bed [10:38:01] complain with highlight and he can rad back later [10:38:05] read [10:38:15] (that's actually not a racist stereotype, it's that your brain is not trained with "foreign" faces from a very early age on, so their defining features are more difficult to learn) [10:38:26] ...they packaged this up so well that the packaging smashed the smaller packages inside [10:38:36] (it's basically like learning a foreign language) [10:39:23] i can imagine that. but i was talking about the fact that he is not japanese can cause problems for some people [10:40:05] insecurities, what if he doesnt speak japanese, have to use english, better not talk to him [10:40:49] Althego, he actually said he forgot the package when he started running [10:42:10] Althego: it's so bad [10:42:18] why battlefield [10:42:19] why [10:42:25] you were the chosen one [10:42:39] I've gotta say whoever packaged this originally knew that it would get smashed by shipping [10:42:40] dont complain to me. i didnt make it and never cared for the series [10:42:49] you were supposed to bring balance to historical FPSs not destroy them [10:42:54] lol [10:43:07] you were the chosen one [10:43:47] historical fps should be swords and arrows [10:43:58] because that was the weponry for thousands of years [10:44:05] >shooter [10:44:08] >swords [10:44:18] Althego, firearms have been around for a while as well [10:44:24] Action: Rokker stares at Althego [10:44:29] but coparatively short time [10:44:35] you can shoot arrows [10:44:38] first person SHOOTERS [10:44:41] SWORDS [10:44:47] but since it is not viable fro mclose range you have to have some other weapon [10:44:51] 2+2=5? [10:45:51] you can still throw swords? [10:46:05] also implying ww1 and ww2 aren't history [10:46:27] maybe they're a conspiracy theory? [10:46:36] i just said they are a small part of history. all the other parts are not covered [10:47:01] strategy games are better for older history [10:47:10] Rokker, "we didn't think the target audience would know there was a world war one" -EA exec [10:47:17] lol [10:47:18] also possibly a finely tuned historic mount and blade [10:47:22] all of EU4 happens in history not containing WWI or WWII [10:47:32] GlassYuri: the way they handled ww1 was cancer [10:47:40] but yet somehow people are fine with fantasy based things where you are in a first person view with swords and arrows [10:47:46] disgusting guns [10:48:02] too unrealistic [10:48:23] Althego: right but those aren't grand battles [10:50:16] so today I learned, after the zombie apocalypse dies down, try to get to a chinese online shopping warehouse [10:50:34] those are HUUUUUGE [10:50:38] they're so paranoid about shipping damage that most stuff in there will survive a direct bomb blast [10:50:44] hehe [10:50:54] unnecessary, zombies dont do that [10:51:02] well, i imagine everything in China is actually HUUUGE [10:51:22] yeah, your standard sheet metal hangar will do just fine [10:51:28] downside is: china will have a lot of zombies [10:51:35] hehe [10:51:38] in some parts [10:51:53] heh the most dense city of all would be so full of zombies [10:51:55] the peopulation is not evenly distributed [10:51:56] er, the parts that also have the huge warehouses :p [10:52:22] air force plant 4 best choice [10:52:24] india would be one of worse places for post-zombie living [10:52:30] mile long factory [10:52:31] mmmm [10:52:35] plane parts [10:52:39] mmmm [10:52:48] guns [10:52:49] mmmm [10:53:00] i imagine the best place would be some central asian steppe country [10:53:14] Kasachstan and the like [10:53:26] they wouldnt even get infected in the first place [10:53:33] Rokker, a near infinite amount of consumer goods would be pretty useful though [10:53:34] unless it infects animals too [10:54:01] they also probably wouldn't embrace a "refugees welcome" philosophy [10:54:03] GlassYuri: ok, sure, maybe [10:54:12] BUT [10:54:28] GlassYuri: plant 4 has more than enough food [10:54:49] not to mention a lot of bikes for transport to the local grocery stores [10:55:40] Rokker, I promise that if it remains possible for us to stay in touch after a zombie apocalypse, I will dig up random stuff worth a plane and trade it for a plane with you [10:55:43] https://alchetron.com/cdn/united-states-air-force-plant-4-0f9fd5f6-25c0-4058-a67e-db92e3aaa6a-resize-750.jpeg [10:57:07] ...so I worried about having to deal with instructions written in chinese, but it turns out, there are no instructions [10:57:37] well, n written ones, but some pictures and diagrams [10:59:01] the forwarding company gave me so much trouble because there was some glue in one package which they refused to ship, but turns out there was glue in another package as well which they just didn't notice [11:00:46] GlassYuri: the plant currently makes F-35s, but they have C-130s on base as well [11:00:53] and a 737 apparently [11:00:59] so my china fetish (TheKosmonaut's words) officially endangers aviation, I'm so proud of myself [11:01:38] Rokker, F-35 would probably be of limited value to me [11:03:05] GlassYuri: no strafing runs on zombies? [11:03:13] C-130 could work, assuming the chuo line goes out of service [11:04:10] Rokker, if my friends and me are in a situation where we can affort to operate an F-35 we probably don't have much to worry about [11:04:16] Also DFW is nearbish [11:04:17] *afford [11:04:28] so I could fly to there and grab a plane [11:04:40] why do you ned a c-130? [11:04:51] Althego: none of your business [11:05:13] if the chuo line goes out of service it could likely be used as a C-130 runway [11:05:34] in case of a zombie apocalypse i would go with russian planes, they canusually land on grass runways and generally more enduring [11:05:51] ... [11:06:05] Althego: I'm sorry but you can back your dumb comments up tyvm [11:06:07] it's long, almost perfectly straight, quadruple tracked giving some width, and generally elevated to at least the height of surrounding buildings [11:06:40] Althego: you are right that Russian FIGHTERS are much more battlefield runway friendly [11:06:57] Althego, C-130s can do a stadium, assuming the crapload of rockets you strapped to it ignite properly [11:07:20] What about C-17s [11:07:21] but the C-130 is extremely capable of taking off in many areas [11:07:34] Kalpa: but less durable but not unreasonably so [11:08:02] I saw a C-17 here few weeks ago [11:08:08] It wasn't on flightradar24 [11:08:30] Kalpa: https://youtu.be/d1yJCda5xiI [11:08:31] YouTube - c 17 american air force landing in sand [11:08:33] (This probably should not come as a particular surprise to anyone) [11:08:38] I see them all the time [11:08:47] sometimes they are sometimes they aren't [11:08:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:08:51] This one landed on Helsinki-Vantaa Intl (EFHK) [11:09:11] Kalpa: I saw one last week doing touch and goes along with one of the air force one 747s [11:09:24] well "VC-25s" non 747s [11:09:30] not [11:09:55] Big-ass military transports aren't that common here, as our defense forces don't employ any :P [11:09:59] I tend to see chinooks, as well as a few fighters [11:10:19] Kalpa: actually got a crappy quality but neat pic of a B-17 flying in the same frame as Air Force One [11:10:29] also spotted a C-130 a few weeks back [11:10:38] so a 747 and a B-17. two great Boeing quad enfines [11:11:00] Kalpa: also the C-17 ain't big [11:11:05] I can't vouch for B-17, I only ever had a scale model of B-29 [11:11:54] https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-d5yer1IYg4A/WSzI9fq_3zI/AAAAAAAABhg/a4BtW4v7BSoX1ZGrY4f4wq0L7v-0VV-YACLcB/s1600/Lockheed_C-5_Galaxy_vs_Boeing_C-17_Globemaster_Size.jpg [11:11:59] is little babby [11:12:54] little babby plane [11:13:22] Kalpa: also got to walk on that B-17. it was here for the unveiling of the Memphis Belle celebration [11:14:16] It's still big, no matter if you find the bigger fish to compare it to. Just like a 20kg salmon is big, even if you'd compare it to a tunafish. [11:14:46] is babby [11:14:54] Yeah, suit yourself. [11:15:11] the chinese glue I received has "Is a surprise adhesive force" and "Stimulate the taste-free" written on it [11:15:12] Kalpa: anyways my museum has the first prototype C-17 [11:15:18] its a movie star [11:16:01] Kalpa: I mean it's not much larger than a C-124 [11:17:01] anyways the museums C-17 has been in transformers 1 and 2 and iron man 1 and 2 [11:18:18] Althego: also with regards to ruggedness, the A-10 can take off on worse runways than even the russians [11:19:14] but can it take off with one wing and one engine [11:20:20] probably? [11:21:17] Rokker, ...are there planes out there that are designed to take off with an engine out? [11:22:14] like, I know that a lot of planes will probably do it, but as an actual design requirement [11:22:36] GlassYuri: from startup, probably not many [11:23:08] GlassYuri: planes are designed to be able to finish their takeoff if an engine failed mid takeoff [11:24:32] GlassYuri: I wanna say the DC-1 had that as a design requirement because plane design in the 1930s was equal parts hilarious, weird and terrifying [11:25:30] they asked five manufacturers to bid for construction of a three-engined, 12-seat aircraft of all-metal construction, capable of flying 1,080�mi (1,740�km) at 150�mph (242�km/h). The most demanding part of the specification was that the airliner would have to be capable of safely taking off from any airport on TWA's main routes (and in particular�Albuquerque, at high altitude and with severe summer temperatures) with one engine [11:25:30] non-functioning.[ [11:25:39] brilliant [11:25:53] gg TWA [11:26:05] I mean in early aviation being stuck with a borked plane and no access to proper maintenance didn't seem to be that exceptional [11:27:13] GlassYuri: since ur a china weeb have you ever heard the wonderful story of the CNAC Douglas DC-2 and a 1/2 [11:27:33] I haven't [11:29:36] GlassYuri: http://cnac.org/price006.jpg [11:29:43] so this is a DC-3 [11:30:04] you might notice its right wing is shorter and rounder than the left [11:30:16] lol [11:30:43] Which is because in 1941 in a small airfield in Suifu china [11:30:48] i read that Corsairs wings were assymetrical due to propeller's influence but this seems to be too much for that [11:30:52] the plane was hit with a jamanese bomb [11:30:59] japanese [11:31:05] where did that m come from [11:31:13] who was the donor? [11:31:14] im too tired to type words good [11:31:25] m and p are next to each other on the keyboard [11:32:15] Gasher[work]: well they just so happened to have a bunch of older less valuable DC-2s laying around so they took the wing off one, flew it down to suifu and bolted it on [11:32:22] ah [11:32:51] they tested it out on another DC-3 first to make sure it wouldnt go horribly wrong [11:33:04] Gasher[work]: http://cnac.org/price005.jpg [11:33:51] that is amazing [11:34:07] GlassYuri: CNAC was pretty impressive overall [11:34:23] underappreciated part of the chinese ww2 war effort [11:36:16] Rokker, the tail also seems pretty patched up [11:36:25] probably [11:36:32] most planes dont survive bombs at all [11:36:34] so [11:37:40] Gasher[work]: italian fighter planes also are asymmetrical to counter prop torgue [11:38:57] a lot of planes are called DC 2 and a halfs, but this is probably the one with the coolest story [11:39:23] well not a lot [11:39:29] a decent few [11:44:48] GlassYuri: have you ever visited either of the technik museums [11:45:04] both twice [11:45:25] GlassYuri: jelly [11:45:33] jelly? [11:46:24] im jealous [11:46:38] Rokker, they have a chinese QJ class steam locomotive sitting in front of a string of US transportation corps tank cars [11:47:25] heck, the QJ was temporarily renamed 'anti-imperialism class' during the cultural revolution [11:48:47] Rokker, they have a lot of space stuff too [11:50:13] I know [11:50:32] Rokker, perhaps the most ridiculous one is the ship kept in operating condition, on land [11:51:03] including the closest thing to a surviving buran [11:51:45] since Russia didn't see fit to actually preserve theirs [11:51:53] because they hate aircraft history [11:51:59] Action: Rokker states at Gasher[work] [11:52:02] Rokker, they don't just have the atmospheric flight prototype, but also one of the smaller scale reentry test models [11:52:15] and that one has visibly returned from space [11:52:49] meh we have lifting bodies that have go to space here too. that one's not terribly impressive [11:54:03] GlassYuri: I'm more interested in the planes they have on stilts [11:54:31] Rokker, the outdoor planes really aren't in the best possible condition [11:54:55] a lot of them have equipment removed or behind badly scratched glass panels [11:54:59] they never are [11:57:09] GlassYuri: but they have a Dassault Mercure [11:57:12] the 747 has the cabin removed in the rear section so you can see the hull structure and pressure bulkhead, which is definitely cool [11:57:30] hehehe Mercure [12:00:52] Rokker, there is another really impressive aviation museum somewhere else in germany too [12:01:14] not quite sure where, not even sure if there's an airport nearby [12:01:43] there are a few good German museums [12:03:21] and near where I'm from there's the zeppelin and dornier museums in friedrichshafen, which are really good too [12:05:09] GlassYuri: the Berlin Museum of Technology has a raisin bomber on the roof as well as some cool unique planes from ww2 [12:05:34] I haven't been there [12:06:26] GlassYuri: holy crap [12:06:35] they have the Cessna that was landed in red square [12:07:57] also a Fw 200 [12:11:18] GlassYuri: were you thinking of the Flugwert Schlessheim in Munich [12:11:47] no [12:11:58] somewhere northeast [12:12:10] flugwert is neat [12:12:20] they have a Europa rocket as well as an ariane booster [12:12:24] and the X-31 [12:12:38] this one I think https://www.luftfahrtmuseum-wernigerode.de/de/ [12:13:47] (go to einblicke for pictures) [12:15:01] ...they doubled in size since I went there [12:15:31] not bad but I'd prefer flugwert [12:15:51] also the Berlin military museum is nice [12:16:08] it's been a few years but I remember it being crammed full of interesting stuff [12:16:24] from the pictures it seems like it may have become less crammed due to the expansion [12:23:16] TheKosmonaut: oiii [12:32:58] ...this model kit I bought from china uses a resistor as a small tank [12:33:07] if it works and it's stupid [12:33:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:34:19] somehow the instructions show high quality metal wheels while the actual included ones are garbage plastic ones [12:35:20] actually they seem pretty good for plastic wheels [13:20:07] So I want to start a youtube series on plane and rocket history [13:20:16] not sure what plane to start with [13:20:21] or how to format it [13:20:25] or anything [13:20:31] but ima do it gosh darnit [13:25:31] TheKosmonaut: oi [13:26:09] Rokker, start with a very common misconception [13:26:37] GlassYuri: that russian planes were good? [13:26:41] very common [13:27:05] GlassYuri: i was thinking more like profiles of specific planes [13:27:13] like a video about the B-17 [13:27:18] and a video about the F-22 [13:30:17] Rokker, I think the first few vids should gather attention and show off your knowledge / video production skills [13:31:10] also, the plane video I need the most is one that outlines how a modern air engagement would work out [13:31:15] GlassYuri: nonexistent [13:31:22] information is gonna be my strong suit [13:31:33] gonna work out the production as i go [13:31:51] i have an unlimited amount of plane footage i can shoot [13:32:08] for over 350 plane and bombs and missiles [13:33:18] starting from what a strategic background could be like, to how and why an engagement would happen, how it could play out, the numbers (planes, distances/area, time) involved [13:34:08] GlassYuri: those kinds of topics would probably be better suited waiting until i actually have skills built up [13:34:44] Rokker, sure [13:38:27] Rokker, also, my graphic design skills are beyond nonexistant, so I can't help you with any of that [13:39:02] your best luck would be to look at other aviation and military channels and try to emulate their infographics and animations [13:39:18] well that's the thing [13:39:38] I've noticed a lot of people who talk about obscure aircraft pr about tactics [13:39:51] but not common planes that people love [13:40:19] maybe there's a reason for that but idk [13:40:28] feels like there is a small untouched niche [13:42:49] hm, i tried surviving mars again, but i have quite huge performance problems with the graphics [13:43:16] with pretty much all settings at minimum [13:56:52] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:01:42] Eddi|zuHause: weird [14:15:18] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:21:44] this guy must be working night shift or something [14:23:47] hmm, wintergatan video [14:23:56] he didnt release new ones for a wehile [14:27:34] what's "a while"? [14:30:10] there were no wednesday updates for at least two weeks [14:30:57] but i wasnt in good enough condition since wednesday evening to check it [14:33:23] how fo you close a balloon? [14:33:37] glue? [14:33:44] no the rubber ones [14:33:49] you do a knot but idk how [14:33:51] small string [14:34:07] usually they float and you hold them with a string. [14:34:14] andthat would close it [14:34:22] do you think I am righ and have helium [14:34:28] I don't even have hydrogen [14:34:32] but you can have the string [14:34:43] you could have hydrogen since you have water and electricity [14:34:48] but you are supposed to knot the end of the balloon [14:34:56] yes, you can do that too [14:35:02]