[00:00:49] sometimes helps to throttle partly.. wait till you get moving, then go max [00:17:45] Action: darsie didn't bring radiators. Ore/fuel production is inefficient. Might take a few years to fill that tanks. [00:21:44] 93 minutes real time. [06:01:06] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:29:42] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2XPjOs5qYQ tschut tschut! [11:26:49] Fluburtur: what are you up to lately? [12:18:25] Action: darsie went to Gilly again, this time with a radiator: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot154.png [12:20:42] All right, I'm fuelled up now :). [12:32:53] yes the radiator really helps with the isru [12:32:55] also an engineer [12:33:31] so did you landon eve already? [12:34:07] rumors say a 5 ghz boost clock 12 core (24 thread) amd is coming [12:34:25] which means the next computer really has to be amd again, after all these years [12:36:52] No. Just refuelled on Gilly and taking off now to Eve. [12:37:02] i would have landed empty [12:37:44] I will, don't worry :), but I need fuel for an entry burn. [12:38:52] The big battery wasn't really necessary. [12:39:21] i usually land empty, except for a tiny amount of fuel, with a descent stage engine hidden behind a heatshield and angled outward. to decrease the angle i put the engines on top, that also helps to get rid of the landing stage, along with the parachutes [12:40:36] Guys, this is a sample return mission. I need to get back up. [12:40:53] maybe from the highest peak on eve [12:40:57] if you can land there [12:41:06] but that is relatively tiny and not on the equator [12:41:12] plane it out [12:41:16] But I thought of a way to use a heat shield. Put another mammoth under the heat shield. [12:42:11] But that's kinda ugly. Spacex doesn't use heat shields and another 9 Merlins, either. [12:55:36] because they are not going with full orbital velocity and the rocket is mostly empty [12:56:13] you are going to land with an almost full rocket, in a much denser atmosphere [12:58:38] My rocket will be empty after the entry burn. [12:58:50] mining fuel there? [12:59:07] i always suspected that its best to just fly out of eve rather than rocket out [12:59:20] heck it stops even my cheater engine [12:59:43] yeah [13:01:26] engine that can push ship to lightspeed in minutes took minutes to get out of eve. [13:02:07] Well, I've used this design long ago. Wanna know if it still works. [13:02:16] :) [13:03:23] Flying? With rocket engines? [13:03:49] wings [13:04:00] so you dont fight gravity all way up and takes advange of air there [13:04:24] But how do you thrust in CO2? [13:04:35] the manley drive could get you up from eve easily :) [13:04:35] Solar powered propeller? [13:04:54] i was thinking of electric props for under 15 km [13:05:02] but in stock those are really hard to make [13:05:15] and what i could build was ugly and didnt have enough thrust for vertical ascent [13:05:31] but it could power a plane to go above 10 km [13:06:00] They should have props. [13:06:30] not too sure havent played for a bit, forgot some parts is possible [13:06:33] yes, for eve and duna mostly [13:06:40] but also good for kerbin and layhte [13:07:00] in the upcoming dlc there will be an electric motor [13:07:16] but i guess it is about torque and not speed, so probably useless for props [13:07:56] if fly to say 90% above air you already have massive savings [13:08:27] so it really depends on what you can think up that can live though landing and flight up, nd evenual orbiting. [13:08:45] Rockoon :) [13:09:53] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1132220235543588864 Uhm... :D [13:10:38] what happened to audi? [13:14:47] They created an EV, which is heavier than a Tesla and has less range [13:14:52] Also I think it costs more. [13:23:59] A truck? [13:24:27] Big, heavy SUV [13:24:44] oh, teslabjorn has finally one for range and charging test [13:26:39] and his versions has manual steering wheel adjustment. Even the M3s have it motorized... [14:11:00] Every word is a slur in some other language (paraprasing douglas adams) [14:12:52] but as a German car maker you ought to have some French speaking employees. Somebody should have known [14:13:19] youtube is a slur in scotland [14:13:50] Well, England is one also. :D [14:16:45] Action: TransitBiker is back (gone 16:27:41) [14:19:50] bwop [14:36:09] mmbop [14:44:24] Aerobraking at Eve is tedious. [14:50:03] Physics warp still reduces heat. [15:13:12] pfff, I'd call that cheating! [15:16:02] it used to increase ablator usage [15:16:27] because it multiplies everything in the equations, but it forgot to multiply ablator quantity [15:16:46] so eve ate through ablator like it was nothing [15:17:19] i removed a few unnecessary parts from my science plane [15:17:43] first iteration, there is a second one with the usable landing gear [15:17:55] but that is not available yet [15:20:54] http://www.warpology.com/k/Science%20Plane%201.craft http://www.warpology.com/k/science_plane.png [15:22:28] but only the 3rd iteration is the good, once i can upgrade to the vectoring jets [15:41:05] Yes!!! I landed on Eve :) http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot157.png [15:56:29] in once piece? That's a great achievment! [16:04:40] It dug into the ground, though, when returning from time warp for fuel mining, and also kinked :(. [16:06:50] Also quicksave to show the Kraken who's boss! [16:09:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:11:20] Sometimes the Kraken is in quicksave. [16:21:58] quickload sometimes has more krackens than just playing through [16:44:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:31:22] yes the mining timewarp and jumping in the air, i know that too well [17:31:54] now the qestion is, can it get back into orbit [17:32:16] Rokker: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7ZTUq7UwAEjNHF.jpg [17:33:02] why you linking me facebook memes dammit [17:33:57] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/xZcwBHio/20190525_123353.jpg [17:51:03] still plenty of air and space in that picture [18:20:57] I didn't make it back to orbit. [18:22:02] Maybe the old design was better. Two FL800 tanks for the Vector and the Mammoth may have had a full size tank. [18:22:21] darsie: how much dV did you pack? [18:22:36] and did you do an early gravity turn or a late one? [18:22:52] late [18:22:59] Atmo is so dense ... [18:25:10] yeah, that's the issue here [18:25:47] you still have to do a pretty early gravity turn or you'll lose too much dV afterwards due to vector losses [18:29:39] i expected that, it looked too small for eve [18:30:15] if you are willing to ditch the cabin and use command chair, you can get rid of a lot of mass [18:31:41] KER says 8139 m/s vacuum dv. I spent a lot subsonic due to drag. [18:34:19] Ohh, that included the SRBs for Kerbin launch. [18:34:58] 7861 m/s now [18:35:24] 7923 m/s without the legs. [18:35:49] 7934 m/s without the chutes. [18:36:27] I may try the slimmer second stage some time. [18:58:55] Na, bring a bigger first stage ;) [18:59:32] That, too, maybe. [19:07:31] https://imgur.com/a/oAozXm2 my last monstrosity that went to Eve and back [19:07:38] yes, 3 person capsule [19:08:12] and I cheated a litte. Didn't bring ladders, but a crew cabin at the bottom... [19:08:46] With robotic parts a lift would have been possible, but... [19:20:14] lol [19:23:46] i usually get rid of the ladders and parachutes after use [19:24:11] getting back from eve is totally one way, dispensable craft [19:29:40] finally, scott talks [19:33:58] and i got the usable landing gear [19:35:01] and the plane looks stupid with them because i had to move them too much forward, and i am not going to turn them backwards because they also provide lights [20:14:58] "worrying and scary for the future of astronomy" - hm. well, we do need moar satellites. https://vimeo.com/338361997 [20:18:07] but make them transparent first :) [20:48:24] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbH1ZDImaI8 [20:48:34] Is SpaceX's Raptor engine the king of rocket engines? [20:48:38] (everyday astronaut) [20:49:35] In terms of thrust: SSRM > RD-170 > F1 >… [20:50:09] the blue origin engine is going to be bigger than the raptor [20:50:26] hrm [21:09:32] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:10:40] is ksp still playable in vanilla with plasma blackout enabled? [23:16:36] If you keep crews around, definitely. [23:25:57] fancy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M515Suqh5p0 [23:28:39] probes, I think you need to be careful, but probably? [23:44:05] can someone tell me why I lost control of my vessel right before I landed in the ocean? I wasn't able to deploy my parachute or control anything despite having jeb at the controls....... [23:44:06] https://www.twitch.tv/videos/429880028?t=00h20m55s [23:44:12] ^timestamped [23:44:35] the tapping sound is me mashing my spacebar [23:46:13] the Kraken did it [23:47:00] your sacrififice was not worth enough [23:53:14] Neal: out of power? [23:53:17] happened to me [23:53:29] no [23:53:40] also power isn't needed to deploy chutes when a kerbal is onboard [23:53:44] my rocket started rotating out of control when I turned off engine, oh no power lol [23:54:33] Neal: No line of sight becaues Earth is not flat? [23:54:41] Kerbin* :) [23:55:30] again, there was a kerbal onboard so that was not needed [23:55:37] ok [23:56:08] jeb was right there looking happy as ever [23:56:10] Sometimes I need to hit space twice for staging. [23:56:38] I was mashing it [23:56:43] hit it at least 30 times [23:57:46] too fast? [23:57:53] speed [23:58:32] I mean they didn't even start to deploy [23:58:47] and it wasn't that fast [23:58:57] mhm, chute is white