[00:02:57] ;mission You design and build a rotating-detonation engine. [00:02:57] FLHerne: No mission found matching "You design and build a rotating-detonation engine.". [00:03:04] ;mission add You design and build a rotating-detonation engine. [00:03:05] FLHerne: Added mission: You design and build a rotating-detonation engine. [00:03:19] (seriously, those things are a neat idea) [00:03:45] boom [00:04:03] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotating_detonation_engine [00:04:35] Basically, combustion is more efficient if you can create a continuous rolling detonation [00:05:12] ;outcome add Scott Manley explains the resulting events in great detail. [00:05:12] FLHerne: Added outcome: Scott Manley explains the resulting events in great detail. [00:24:51] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:27:25] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:32:45] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:16:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Althego' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:51:49] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:21:36] !mission [09:21:36] Mat2ch: You hatch an evil plot to steal some important hardware from Mission Control, for the evulz! The floating point errors result in floating kerbals. [09:34:48] !mission [09:34:48] Mat2ch: The Kratholic Pope Jebediah I holds mass for the worship of Kraken. KwirkyJ removes the entry about KwirkyJ removing the meta entries. Meta-ception. [09:35:00] !mission [09:35:01] Mat2ch: You give the MechJeb pod the evil eye to try to make it stop staring at you. Oh well, these things happen. [09:35:10] !mission [09:35:10] Mat2ch: You readjust Eve's mountains' angle of repose. This results in you creating a new OS, KUNIX, which becomes insanely popular and shapes the history of computing. [09:35:28] !mission [09:35:28] Mat2ch: You have more of a comment than a question. Again. [09:35:39] Ok, that fits. :D [11:21:19] the MechJeb pod has been retired and deprecated. I liked its eye, though :) [11:58:25] i sees.. or rather it saw it all [11:58:42] i.. the.. no 'it' sees all. >.> [11:58:56] coffee can't come soon enough [14:32:50] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:25:23] hey hey, need to ask sth about the delta v map... [17:26:48] yes? [17:27:35] the 3400 delta v to a 80km kerbin orbit. is that delta v measured in vacuum or atmosphere !? [17:27:47] yes [17:27:55] if you set the delta v tool in the vab to vacuum [17:28:23] i see. so always in vacuum... the whole map [17:28:24] obviously you have to use engines in the lower atmosphere that work there [17:29:07] i do a challenge on my own to get to orbit with 3400 deltaV^^ [17:29:09] yes, because with bodies with atmosphere it would make it hard to calculate, the atmosphere, your launch profile, launch altitude would cause differences [17:29:20] you can make better than that [17:29:23] make it 3000 [17:29:28] if you have high enough twr [17:29:38] you can do a shallower, mre efficient ascent [17:29:55] the 3400 is a realistic value, but not the best you can do [17:30:06] hmm [17:30:30] high twr and heat resistance :) [17:30:34] but means a flat ascent more drag? [17:30:42] less gravity loss [17:31:05] obviously you have to keep the two balanced [17:31:16] but high twr in general means you are betetr off [17:31:24] so if you start say with 2 [17:31:35] instead of a more usual 1.2 or 1.3 [17:31:52] while you are going up, full 1 g is subtracted from taht [17:31:57] which causes less delta v [17:32:39] ill try and let you know^^ [17:32:45] If there's no atmosphere I ascend as shallow as possible. [17:33:59] Unless it's Gilly :). [17:34:10] there you just do whatever [17:34:14] yea but ill try an kerbin orbit [17:34:15] you need rcs to land :) [17:34:22] as less as possible [17:36:19] On Kerbin you usually overheat if you fly too shallow, so I tend to fly so shallow that I just don't overheat. Or a bit steeper. [17:37:29] use the landing gear on the nose trick :) [17:38:20] Haven't heard of that before. Going too shallow is suboptimal, too, though, due to drag. [17:38:38] there is a specific landing gear that has the highest heat tolerance in the game [17:38:46] that can soak in all the heat on the nose [17:39:15] Maybe that's useful for Eve entry. [17:39:27] or specific challenges [17:39:51] Taking a surface sample of Jool ;). [17:40:24] https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/LY-60_Large_Landing_Gear i think it is this one [17:40:33] 2700 K [17:41:50] mhm. LY-99, too. [17:42:42] ;mission add You are tasked with obtaining a surface sample from Jool. [17:42:43] FLHerne: Added mission: You are tasked with obtaining a surface sample from Jool. [17:44:03] ;mission fixup s/tasked with obtaining/accept a contract to obtain/ [17:44:03] FLHerne: New text is: You are accept a contract to obtain a surface sample from Jool. [17:44:16] ;mission fixup s/are // [17:44:16] FLHerne: New text is: You accept a contract to obtain a surface sample from Jool. [17:44:18] bleh [17:44:18] you accept [17:44:22] hehe [17:44:42] i dont fix my typos, unless they can be misunderstood for something else [17:44:55] exactly because of this. a fix would still have a typo [17:47:24] lol youtube. -2 dislikes [17:47:29] -2 [17:47:33] how is that even possible [17:47:42] overflow? [17:48:04] :) [17:49:09] also [17:49:11] *wenhop [17:49:14] #wenhop [18:00:17] sheeep: Simple two stage orbital rocket: https://i.ibb.co/KNdbNT0/screenshot350.png [18:01:42] sheeep: If you fly shallow so the apoapsis is over the next peninsula when it reaches 70 km, this is an efficient ascent: https://i.ibb.co/xfGxZnw/screenshot351.png [18:02:42] it seems the sls t est failure was bigger thanthey thought [18:02:46] another delay [18:02:56] this makes it hard for the europa clipper to launch on sls [18:03:17] although congress forced nasa to launch it on sls. but even they cant change the law of physics [18:05:13] hmm got a orbit with about 3100dV.. but rocket is too big [18:05:30] ty darsie [18:05:42] I reached orbit with 539 m/s left in that rocket. [18:06:16] if you have smaller fuel tanks but same engines you can even go lower than 3100 then [18:06:41] I reached orbit <3000 m/s (vacuum dv). [18:12:27] Action: raptop inserts a generic rant about how vac Δv is not quite the same as actually expended Δv [18:19:28] I flew even shallower, the Pe was behind the next peninsula and I had only 531 m/s left. [18:20:07] whelp [18:20:12] For a lower drag rocket this might be better, though. [18:35:58] Graming Kerman jetpacks to Jerdo Kerman, who is stranded in Minmus orbit, to tell him to jetpack to Kerbin: https://i.ibb.co/YjXp7js/screenshot352.png [18:38:16] Graming collided with Jerdo's crew cabin and exploded. [18:38:35] She aimed for it. [18:38:58] hehe [18:41:13] At 111 m/s, IIRC. If the speed had been higher, she might have tunneled through it. [18:48:13] darsie with your rocket model.. 3400dV but not perfect [18:49:05] sheeep: ok. How high is your orbit? [18:53:21] I usually go for 70-71 km orbit. [18:57:05] Ride and fly high, high, high, high [18:57:05] Very very high, in the sky! [19:08:23] 75 [19:08:25] km [19:29:29] https://twitter.com/AlexSvanArt/status/1365317363730636802 woah [19:31:49] https://www.artstation.com/artwork/g24QkL moar pictures [19:33:49] by the looks i can really believe it took 4 months [19:40:52] oh a what about it [19:41:18] and there was an our ludicrous future too hours ago, i have to watch that tomorrow [19:51:34] engine-porn [20:33:43] !road [20:33:47] Althego => Primary; Monday, February 22, 2021; 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.; Scheduled | Primary; Tuesday, February 23, 2021; 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.; Scheduled | Secondary; Wednesday, February 24, 2021; 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.; Canceled | Secondary; Thursday, February 25, 2021; 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.; Scheduled | Primary; Friday, February 26, 2021; 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.; Canceled | Secondary; Monday, March 1, 2021; 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.; Schedu [20:37:54] Howdy [20:38:34] I'm gonna make a scale model of the Kerbol System. [20:40:06] 3d printing? [20:41:37] Nope, physical model, [20:42:13] How large? [20:42:42] I'm not sure yet. [20:42:43] What's the smallest body you'll model? [20:42:52] I want Gilly to be in it. [20:42:56] ok [20:42:57] All major bodies. [20:43:52] but then you dont want it to be to scale [20:43:56] Well, you could pick a size for Gilly and see if it's too large, or vice versa. [20:47:15] The smallest moons might be too small. Considering if 10km = 1mm, then Kerbol has a diameter of 532 meters... [20:48:49] hehehe [20:49:09] that is why i said in general nobody makes scale models [20:49:14] for solarsystems [20:49:23] because the plaents are simply too small [20:49:26] People do along hiking trails. [20:49:33] Hmmm [20:49:46] And yeah, some bodies are very small, then. Or missing. [20:49:49] I could do it the same way I make NORMAL solar system models. [20:49:50] yes, with mere cm size balls you need to be like hundreds of meters away [20:50:17] Earth is about 8mm in diameter with our system's models. [20:51:01] I should make it so 100km = 1mm [20:55:34] If you make Gilly 0.1 mm (just visible), then Eloos Ap is 869 m. [20:55:50] some single celled organisms are bigger than that :) [20:56:46] I have 0.08 mm wire (plus enamel). It's very visible. An 0.1 mm sphere is different, though. [20:57:11] excellent channel btw https://www.youtube.com/c/microcosmos/videos [20:57:35] However, Gilly isn't a sphere. [20:57:40] It's lumpy. [20:57:50] The diameter of human hair varies from 0.017 to 0.18 millimeters [20:58:12] Fine, an 0.1 mm lump, then. [20:59:22] I have a microscope. I could estimate the diameter of small sand grains. [21:00:28] https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Kerbol_System/Table [21:04:47] I'm using Diameter, Star/Planet Semi-Major Axis, Atmosphere Height (If there is an atmosphere), and Sphere of Influence. [21:05:29] You're gonna model the atmosphere, too? [21:05:38] Most likely. [21:05:49] I might use transparent sheets of paper. [21:06:00] Or transparent lacquer. [21:06:09] What's lacquer? [21:06:27] The term lacquer is used for a number of hard and potentially shiny finishes applied to materials such as wood or metal. [21:06:34] Oh [21:06:34] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacquer [21:09:43] you can make lacquer really thin, and it still remains hard, so actually a good idea [21:09:55] oh no wintergatan [21:10:04] i wanted to sleep like 40 minutes ago [21:17:24] oh no [21:17:29] excellent marble gate [21:17:49] but, he is already thinking about a new one. looks like a clock escapement [21:17:56] Do I need a permit or to be a certain age to use lacquer [21:18:26] you do need a permit to visit the prison colony in the ross 128 system :) [21:19:12] what [21:19:20] (in elite 2) [21:19:29] TristenKSP: How old are you? [21:19:35] also for yz canis minoris [21:19:40] and i dont remember the 3rd one [21:19:50] Turning 13 on March 15th this year. [21:20:38] I guess there are many different kinds. [21:21:05] Is it non-toxic? [21:21:20] They are probably more or less toxic. [21:21:31] That might not work then [21:22:47] Did you pay the KSP DLCs yourself? [21:22:53] Yes [21:23:20] gtg [21:23:24] bye [21:23:28] bye [21:23:46] kids these days [21:23:52] Action: umaxtu shakes head