[02:28:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:28:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:51:58] <Althego> hehehe. footage from a 1986 movie, the goldblum, a film exploring the body horror of when an unassuming fly scientist accidentally gets into a teleportation pod with jeff goldblum [02:51:58] <Althego> hehehe. footage from a 1986 movie, the goldblum, a film exploring the body horror of when an unassuming fly scientist accidentally gets into a teleportation pod with jeff goldblum [04:05:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:05:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:14:20] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [07:14:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:14:20] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [07:14:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:04:46] <Althego> bit more than 9 hhours [11:04:46] <Althego> bit more than 9 hhours [11:18:13] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU6KogxG5BE [11:18:13] <kmath> YouTube - Starlink Mission [11:18:13] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU6KogxG5BE [11:18:13] <kmath> YouTube - Starlink Mission [11:37:12] <Althego> leet time [11:37:12] <Althego> leet time [11:52:29] <darsie> . [11:53:29] <JVFoxy> heyo [11:53:59] <darsie> mayo [11:54:17] <JVFoxy> s'up? [11:52:29] <darsie> . [11:53:29] <JVFoxy> heyo [11:53:59] <darsie> mayo [11:54:17] <JVFoxy> s'up? [11:55:50] <packbart> there is no up [11:56:50] <darsie> Up is against the gravity vector. [11:57:26] <packbart> on EVA, north is up [11:57:47] <darsie> Sometimes Kerbals lose their sense of up. [11:59:05] <JVFoxy> waking up at 3am... [11:55:50] <packbart> there is no up [11:56:50] <darsie> Up is against the gravity vector. [11:57:26] <packbart> on EVA, north is up [11:57:47] <darsie> Sometimes Kerbals lose their sense of up. [11:59:05] <JVFoxy> waking up at 3am... [12:10:44] <sandbox> Sometimes Kerbals lose their sense of spoon. [12:10:44] <sandbox> Sometimes Kerbals lose their sense of spoon. [12:18:53] <JVFoxy> ...there is no spoon... [12:18:53] <JVFoxy> ...there is no spoon... [13:15:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:15:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:05:39] <Althego> i didnt know there is a spacewalk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlK_bLnqmas [15:05:39] <kmath> YouTube - International Space Station Spacewalk, June 26, 2020 [15:06:05] <Althego> found it in a comment on an anti-flat earth video :) [15:05:39] <Althego> i didnt know there is a spacewalk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlK_bLnqmas [15:05:39] <kmath> YouTube - International Space Station Spacewalk, June 26, 2020 [15:06:05] <Althego> found it in a comment on an anti-flat earth video :) [15:11:34] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|ktns' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:11:34] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|ktns' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:15:18] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:15:18] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:45:23] <Althego> hehehe https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1276418907968925696 [16:45:23] <kmath> <✔elonmusk> Who controls the memes, ⎠controls the Universe [16:45:36] <Althego> i guess the memes must flow [16:47:11] <Deddly> Heh [16:47:56] <Deddly> If he could harness the power of the meme, interplanetary and even interstellar travel would be instantaneous. [16:48:03] <Althego> hehe [16:48:19] <Deddly> Travel without moving [16:48:31] <Althego> lol without moving :) [16:49:00] <packbart> Jamiroquai? [16:45:23] <Althego> hehehe https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1276418907968925696 [16:45:23] <kmath> <✔elonmusk> Who controls the memes, ⎠controls the Universe [16:45:36] <Althego> i guess the memes must flow [16:47:11] <Deddly> Heh [16:47:56] <Deddly> If he could harness the power of the meme, interplanetary and even interstellar travel would be instantaneous. [16:48:03] <Althego> hehe [16:48:19] <Deddly> Travel without moving [16:48:31] <Althego> lol without moving :) [16:49:00] <packbart> Jamiroquai? [16:50:41] <Deddly> Dune [16:51:41] <Althego> meme drive. would be like the infinite improbability drive. all sort of crazy things happen as a side effect [16:52:53] <packbart> Meme Pilots mutate into just a head with a troll face [16:52:59] <Althego> hehe [16:53:26] <Althego> and the universe would talk to them, saying: am i a joke to you? [16:50:41] <Deddly> Dune [16:51:41] <Althego> meme drive. would be like the infinite improbability drive. all sort of crazy things happen as a side effect [16:52:53] <packbart> Meme Pilots mutate into just a head with a troll face [16:52:59] <Althego> hehe [16:53:26] <Althego> and the universe would talk to them, saying: am i a joke to you? [17:15:46] <Deddly> Can I has litesped? [17:15:55] <Deddly> haz* [17:16:32] <Deddly> Perhaps the lolcat/meme engine would be just too powerful [17:16:34] <ChexoRaptop> massless cats [17:16:58] <Althego> the nyancat drive... speeds you up to ludicrous speed [17:19:01] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9oaesxGbE8 [17:19:01] <kmath> YouTube - Bepicolombo Mission Comes to Kerbal Space Program. Official ESA Collaboration [17:19:03] <Althego> scott [17:19:30] <Althego> one point one oh? no it is one point ten [17:15:46] <Deddly> Can I has litesped? [17:15:55] <Deddly> haz* [17:16:32] <Deddly> Perhaps the lolcat/meme engine would be just too powerful [17:16:34] <ChexoRaptop> massless cats [17:16:58] <Althego> the nyancat drive... speeds you up to ludicrous speed [17:19:01] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9oaesxGbE8 [17:19:01] <kmath> YouTube - Bepicolombo Mission Comes to Kerbal Space Program. Official ESA Collaboration [17:19:03] <Althego> scott [17:19:30] <Althego> one point one oh? no it is one point ten [17:20:51] <ChexoRaptop> one point ex [17:20:53] <ChexoRaptop> one point apple [17:21:18] <Althego> one point line feed :) [17:23:33] <ChexoRaptop> That would be a fun versioning scheme [17:20:51] <ChexoRaptop> one point ex [17:20:53] <ChexoRaptop> one point apple [17:21:18] <Althego> one point line feed :) [17:23:33] <ChexoRaptop> That would be a fun versioning scheme [17:30:54] <Althego> so the magnetometer is not just a boom, but actual measurement. not there will be really no need to leave kerbin soi for all the science [17:31:02] <Althego> i mean all the science tree [17:32:51] <ChexoRaptop> difficulty settings! [17:33:57] <lordcirth> Althego, I play with CTT to extend "all the science" a lot, and JNSQ to make Kerbin SoI more interesting. [17:34:03] <lordcirth> And of course Kerbalism. [17:30:54] <Althego> so the magnetometer is not just a boom, but actual measurement. not there will be really no need to leave kerbin soi for all the science [17:31:02] <Althego> i mean all the science tree [17:32:51] <ChexoRaptop> difficulty settings! [17:33:57] <lordcirth> Althego, I play with CTT to extend "all the science" a lot, and JNSQ to make Kerbin SoI more interesting. [17:34:03] <lordcirth> And of course Kerbalism. [17:37:12] <ChexoRaptop> (I mean, granted, if you want to make finishing the tech tree from harvesting science impossible without leaving kerbin's SOI, you need to turn the rewards down to maybe 10%, which can make getting together craft capable of round-tripping to various places difficult) [17:38:00] <Althego> meanwhile the spacewalk is almost over [17:38:25] <Althego> but starlink launch is coming up in a few hours [17:38:57] <lordcirth> I tried lowering science gain once for difficulty. It wasn't challenging, just grindy. [17:39:32] <lordcirth> But having a big tech tree and needing to unlock advanced nuclear engines and assemble a craft in orbit to try a manned Duna landing was fun. [17:37:12] <ChexoRaptop> (I mean, granted, if you want to make finishing the tech tree from harvesting science impossible without leaving kerbin's SOI, you need to turn the rewards down to maybe 10%, which can make getting together craft capable of round-tripping to various places difficult) [17:38:00] <Althego> meanwhile the spacewalk is almost over [17:38:25] <Althego> but starlink launch is coming up in a few hours [17:38:57] <lordcirth> I tried lowering science gain once for difficulty. It wasn't challenging, just grindy. [17:39:32] <lordcirth> But having a big tech tree and needing to unlock advanced nuclear engines and assemble a craft in orbit to try a manned Duna landing was fun. [17:40:10] <ChexoRaptop> Insert complaint here about how probes (especially useful ones) are way too late on the tech tree [17:42:00] <lordcirth> ChexoRaptop, I also play with Unkerballed Start :) [17:42:18] <lordcirth> It makes far more sense, especially with Kerbalism, to start with small probes. [17:42:40] <ChexoRaptop> yeah [17:43:02] <lordcirth> I formerly used Probes Before Crew, but that mod has expanded to do all sorts of other stuff. [17:40:10] <ChexoRaptop> Insert complaint here about how probes (especially useful ones) are way too late on the tech tree [17:42:00] <lordcirth> ChexoRaptop, I also play with Unkerballed Start :) [17:42:18] <lordcirth> It makes far more sense, especially with Kerbalism, to start with small probes. [17:42:40] <ChexoRaptop> yeah [17:43:02] <lordcirth> I formerly used Probes Before Crew, but that mod has expanded to do all sorts of other stuff. [17:49:30] <Althego> you are talking about a game where rockets come before wheels :) [17:49:51] <lordcirth> rockets come before electric motorized wheels * [17:49:57] <packbart> and ladders ;) [17:49:30] <Althego> you are talking about a game where rockets come before wheels :) [17:49:51] <lordcirth> rockets come before electric motorized wheels * [17:49:57] <packbart> and ladders ;) [17:50:03] <lordcirth> yeah, ladders are dumb :P [17:50:05] <ChexoRaptop> Counterpoint: the Mk1 pod contains (reaction) wheels [17:50:12] <Althego> you dont really need ladders [17:50:26] <ChexoRaptop> I mean, ladders are nice... [17:50:28] <Althego> for eve and tylo [17:50:52] <Althego> for mun, minmus, i never take ladders [17:51:03] <packbart> I like my ladders. also, "Kourageous Tourists" often needs them. 1-star tourists can EVA on the Mun but have no jetpacks [17:51:21] <Althego> that is nice [17:51:24] <lordcirth> I occasionally use them when I want a way for an EVA to hang on to a craft at a specific spot. Like for an engineer to maintain engines [17:51:29] <darsie> Jump [17:52:12] <Althego> btw, is it always the americans to go on spacewalks? [17:52:27] <packbart> not always [17:52:32] <Althego> the only russian i remember was for the recovery of the glue sample from the hole on soyuz [17:52:53] <Althego> and that happened because of events, not because of planning [17:53:08] <packbart> maybe there's not so much to fix and rejigger and improve on "their" side ;) [17:53:12] <Althego> hehe [17:53:15] <Althego> russian tech [17:53:18] <packbart> Tim Taylor in Space [17:53:21] <Althego> heavy and sturdy [17:54:09] <packbart> ESA and JAXA astronauts did spacewalks, too [17:50:03] <lordcirth> yeah, ladders are dumb :P [17:50:05] <ChexoRaptop> Counterpoint: the Mk1 pod contains (reaction) wheels [17:50:12] <Althego> you dont really need ladders [17:50:26] <ChexoRaptop> I mean, ladders are nice... [17:50:28] <Althego> for eve and tylo [17:50:52] <Althego> for mun, minmus, i never take ladders [17:51:03] <packbart> I like my ladders. also, "Kourageous Tourists" often needs them. 1-star tourists can EVA on the Mun but have no jetpacks [17:51:21] <Althego> that is nice [17:51:24] <lordcirth> I occasionally use them when I want a way for an EVA to hang on to a craft at a specific spot. Like for an engineer to maintain engines [17:51:29] <darsie> Jump [17:52:12] <Althego> btw, is it always the americans to go on spacewalks? [17:52:27] <packbart> not always [17:52:32] <Althego> the only russian i remember was for the recovery of the glue sample from the hole on soyuz [17:52:53] <Althego> and that happened because of events, not because of planning [17:53:08] <packbart> maybe there's not so much to fix and rejigger and improve on "their" side ;) [17:53:12] <Althego> hehe [17:53:15] <Althego> russian tech [17:53:18] <packbart> Tim Taylor in Space [17:53:21] <Althego> heavy and sturdy [17:54:09] <packbart> ESA and JAXA astronauts did spacewalks, too [17:55:47] <darsie> Nitrous oxide also may be used in a monopropellant rocket. In the presence of a heated catalyst, N2O will decompose exothermically into nitrogen and oxygen, at a temperature of approximately 1,070 °F (577 °C). [17:56:03] <darsie> We could use that to replenish N2 and O2. [17:56:56] <Althego> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_International_Space_Station_spacewalks [17:57:02] <Althego> there seem to be more americans [17:58:55] <packbart> well, lowest bidder gets the job ;) [17:55:47] <darsie> Nitrous oxide also may be used in a monopropellant rocket. In the presence of a heated catalyst, N2O will decompose exothermically into nitrogen and oxygen, at a temperature of approximately 1,070 °F (577 °C). [17:56:03] <darsie> We could use that to replenish N2 and O2. [17:56:56] <Althego> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_International_Space_Station_spacewalks [17:57:02] <Althego> there seem to be more americans [17:58:55] <packbart> well, lowest bidder gets the job ;) [18:00:23] <Althego> so the interns from spacex have to work hard :) [18:00:51] <Althego> one guy on the spacewalk was from the crew dragon [18:01:28] <ChexoRaptop> hrm, so presumably this means that wages are lower in the us than russia, eu, or jp [18:00:23] <Althego> so the interns from spacex have to work hard :) [18:00:51] <Althego> one guy on the spacewalk was from the crew dragon [18:01:28] <ChexoRaptop> hrm, so presumably this means that wages are lower in the us than russia, eu, or jp [18:18:21] <Althego> https://www.engadget.com/nasa-wants-your-help-designing-future-moon-toilets-130012151.html [18:18:21] <Althego> https://www.engadget.com/nasa-wants-your-help-designing-future-moon-toilets-130012151.html [18:34:42] <Althego> hahaha [18:34:46] <Althego> live in 3 days [18:34:53] <Althego> it was under 2 hours alrady [18:34:42] <Althego> hahaha [18:34:46] <Althego> live in 3 days [18:34:53] <Althego> it was under 2 hours alrady [18:35:05] <Althego> and of course put it on a weekday again [18:37:43] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa12CUM60RM [18:37:43] <kmath> YouTube - 10 COOL NEW THINGS in Kerbal Space Program 1.10 [18:35:05] <Althego> and of course put it on a weekday again [18:37:43] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa12CUM60RM [18:37:43] <kmath> YouTube - 10 COOL NEW THINGS in Kerbal Space Program 1.10 [19:56:11] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:56:11] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:35:49] <raptop> hm https://www.futureengineers.org/reinventtheroverwheel [20:35:49] <raptop> hm https://www.futureengineers.org/reinventtheroverwheel [20:40:40] <darsie> legs [20:41:50] <Althego> obviously, wheels are good on roads, for uneven terrain you need legs [20:42:20] <raptop> fun-sized AT-AT [20:42:46] <Althego> but because in many ways space tech is 20 years behind current earth tech, there will be a while until we see a robodog on mars :) [20:40:40] <darsie> legs [20:41:50] <Althego> obviously, wheels are good on roads, for uneven terrain you need legs [20:42:20] <raptop> fun-sized AT-AT [20:42:46] <Althego> but because in many ways space tech is 20 years behind current earth tech, there will be a while until we see a robodog on mars :) [22:05:15] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:05:15] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:32:15] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:32:15] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:54:36] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [22:54:36] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:54:36] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [22:54:36] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:14:46] <FLHerne> So...spaceplane? /home/flh/Pictures/Screenshot_20200627_001404.png [23:14:55] <FLHerne> It SSTOs, barely [23:14:46] <FLHerne> So...spaceplane? /home/flh/Pictures/Screenshot_20200627_001404.png [23:14:55] <FLHerne> It SSTOs, barely [23:15:29] <FLHerne> Hm, http://www.flherne.uk/files/Screenshot_20200627_001404.png is probably a more useful link [23:15:29] <FLHerne> Hm, http://www.flherne.uk/files/Screenshot_20200627_001404.png is probably a more useful link