[00:00:26] yeah [00:00:44] so I write this here and already change the channel? [00:01:00] thank you! [00:01:54] because it appears this: #kspmodders Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services [00:03:04] you need to register your nick, and identify for it to get into that channel. [00:03:19] Google "nickserv" and see how that works. [00:03:33] okay, I will try it, thank you! [03:01:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Althego' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:36:07] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [03:36:07] lol nvidia update. took away the sound. turned out it set the default update to the monitor which doesnt have any actual output [03:36:22] output [03:36:27] not update [03:40:09] wow what a ness over there at freenode [03:40:22] staff just did more hosile takeovers of channels [03:42:31] they closed all channels with "libera" in the title afaik [03:42:43] yeah [03:42:45] why they closed them instead of changing the topic back is beyond my understanding [03:42:59] freenode news basically says you cannot close channel period [03:43:02] it must stay open [03:43:10] ironic that they are closing em... [04:15:12] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:48:09] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [04:48:09] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [05:37:28] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [05:37:28] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [05:40:55] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [05:40:55] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v phroa`' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [05:44:37] is there a lunar eclipse tuday? [05:44:39] today [05:59:19] Althego: yes, however it's not visible in europe [05:59:39] Presumably hololive-jp and hololive-id can see it [05:59:53] but they are stuck in front of a compute [05:59:55] r [06:00:07] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Visibility_Lunar_Eclipse_2021-05-26.png [06:00:47] U1 is 09:44:57 UTC, U4 is 12:52:22 UTC [06:00:59] I guess that's a slight problem for them [06:13:19] thunderf00t did a pretty good documentary style video about apollo 13 [06:19:57] for some reason I was immediately reminded of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM8kjDF0IJU [07:54:22] hah tehre are lunar eclipse livestreams [08:23:53] XXCoder: just shows that moving away from Freenode was the right choice. [08:24:06] yeah [08:26:02] Mat2ch: whats funny it included channels with topic like "discussion on freenode and libera" [08:26:12] way to help the discussoon.. lol [08:26:28] Choices made easy... [08:26:43] freenode just apologized [08:26:49] seems they undid the changes? dunno [08:26:54] dont care have moved on [08:27:02] I mean, wreaking havoc is a good way to build trust! [08:27:22] I'm waiting for two channels to decide to move. One is Freecad. [08:27:30] yeah [08:27:38] freecad and inkscape is closely related [08:27:43] inkscape is now on move soon [08:29:15] Nice. In Freecad it seems only the bot is missing. But that should be easy to change. Just change the server in its config and restart... [08:44:33] basically [09:02:30] XXCoder: for carpentry moving parts could help, when modelling doors for cabinets to see if the fit [09:03:12] freecad do have that feature [09:03:14] never used it' [09:09:58] XXCoder: oh, funny, I wrote in the wrong channel :D [09:10:01] I'm confused... [09:10:09] lol [09:10:46] XXCoder, what is freecad [09:10:57] Does it calculate forces, moments, tensions etc [09:10:59] Can it model the real materials well [09:11:37] Mat2ch, what is freecad [09:11:43] Does it help with screws and gears? [09:12:10] It's a CAD software application that lets you design stuff [09:12:15] and it is open source [09:12:22] free and open source, to be precise. [09:13:06] its not as amazing as pro software, but its zero cist [09:13:08] cost [09:13:18] Ok but what is a cad [09:13:20] 0.20 should be pretty good [09:13:27] oh computer assisted design [09:13:34] yeah full forms are easy to google [09:13:37] but what does it actually do [09:13:41] you model something in it. like a wheel or machine part etc [09:13:52] XXCoder, will it calculate stresses, moments, etc [09:14:08] does it have good modelling of existing materials such as friction coefficients, tensile strengths etc [09:14:20] elasticity and so on too [09:14:26] ie of the important mechanical and physical properties [09:14:51] XXCoder, have you made things you invented inside freecad? [09:15:03] How much did the actual item differ from the mathematical models? [09:15:17] yeah. well differences is result of creation [09:15:23] not model itself [09:15:39] for example 3d printer can make part slightly thicker and taller [09:15:43] XXCoder, does it show you how much force and stress is there at each points of the object [09:15:47] and holes theres something we call "polyholes" [09:16:03] theres finite analsys system [09:16:06] but i never used it [09:16:17] yes fem [09:16:20] Fem is important [09:17:02] XXCoder, how do you know how your machine performs without the fem etc? [09:18:00] experience. [09:18:35] experence or broken parts lol [09:18:42] i dont make complex stuff [09:20:28] but there are some crazy people doing crazy stuff in FreeCAD including FEM [09:22:27] Mat2ch, experience is expensive [09:22:30] Performing some math is cheap [09:22:48] XXCoder, what were you making [09:22:50] What do you usually make [09:23:35] minas_tirith: if you are doing it professionally then yes. But not for the stuff I do. [09:23:48] oh it varies by a lot. i recently made jokers and pegs game board [09:23:50] Mat2ch, what do you do [09:23:58] XXCoder, oh okay [09:24:03] Things are much easier without moving parts [09:24:13] a few parts for 3d printing, nothing special and some cnc work [09:24:20] XXCoder, I was looking at the theory of screws, gears and linkages recently [09:24:31] Mat2ch, where did you get a cnc [09:24:40] Bought it. ;) [09:24:48] Small table cnc router [09:24:54] Mat2ch, rich [09:25:02] dont have to be [09:25:07] Nah, the small ones are cheap [09:25:09] you can build one slowly across time [09:25:16] around the cost of a better 3d printer [09:25:16] Mat2ch, do they accept the f-codes or whatever its called [09:25:24] or buy one of those crap tiny cnc router for $100 lol [09:25:24] g code [09:25:31] gcodes [09:25:49] you can have setup so linuxcnc controls cnc [09:26:06] or have martin and such. those is much lower quality than linuxcnc [09:26:23] XXCoder, machines are very expensive [09:27:01] youre picturing pro mnachines [09:27:07] those can be 100k or more [09:27:14] you can build one for thousand dollars [09:27:18] XXCoder, where do you get the right kinds of motors [09:27:25] how do you accurately control them [09:27:29] where did you get screw bars etc [09:27:30] nema43 is easy to get. [09:27:45] BOB (breakout board) and 3 tb6600s wont cross 100 dollars [09:27:48] Is it strong enough to extrude the metals [09:27:58] extrude metal? [09:28:05] Like cut away at a metal [09:28:12] ah mill metal [09:28:26] not really, you would use it for very weak alum at best [09:28:42] Ok [09:28:44] my machine can mill alum, but not too great. overall, it cost me 1k [09:29:10] XXCoder, then what do you use it for if most metals are out of the question [09:30:11] wood [09:31:18] Oh ok [09:31:23] XXCoder, yes wood is a good idea [09:31:33] Though I guess you can't use the wood much for making gears or screws [09:31:42] How do you make gears and screws? [09:32:04] For milling aluminium you need a better spindle than the regular ones you get for the cheap cnc mills. But after that it's all a matter of how fast you wanna go [09:32:24] I could mill steel on my cnc router, but I'd have to go very very slow [09:32:34] and do manual cooling and stuff. [09:32:50] minas_tirith: you should watch Wintergatan :D [09:32:55] Mat2ch, have you been able to make screws [09:32:55] Martin makes gears out of wood [09:33:18] it's a router, not a mill (mixed that up earlier) [09:33:25] so no screws [09:33:42] Ok [09:33:50] Mat2ch, screws are important [09:34:07] buying is cheaper and easier than making [09:34:21] Mat2ch, where did you get screws for x-y movement [09:34:33] Those long lead screw things [09:34:49] ahhh, that's what you mean. It came with the kit I bought. [09:35:02] Mat2ch, what is it called [09:36:54] https://www.stepcraft-systems.com/en/cnc-machines/d-series [09:36:57] I got the 420 [09:37:07] ball screw? [09:37:12] which is not screw ball :) [09:37:35] I meant what the lead-screw thing is called [09:37:38] Is there a special name for it [09:37:44] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_screw [09:38:13] Exactly, thanks Althego [09:38:19] I needed to know what its called [10:10:14] sigh i hate it when i change settings on hexchat [10:10:23] i have to close program so it saves [11:02:25] in about 8 hours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRu-ekesDyY [11:35:47] (local) leet time [12:54:45] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o TheKosmonaut' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:00:36] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:14:54] omg blue origin is going to get a bailout. because poor jeff cant afford it or something [15:30:01] I saw that, too, but is it really real? [15:30:08] it is just a tweet [15:30:11] who knows [15:30:21] realistic if you think of sls :) [16:54:00] eh ingenuity flight moved to the 30th [18:16:48] yay, UFOs! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6tDHZj5q5Q [18:20:19] again? [18:20:21] Action: raptop assumes that they're drones [18:20:25] with the same lame ir footage? [18:20:53] oh wait this is something else [18:21:01] oh no, it is the same [18:21:55] already saw it. [18:23:40] Hey, Fran is not just some charlatan [18:24:15] the most interesting thing I learnt is that we might get an official report in the next few weeks... [18:24:39] and no you can't just say "this is an IR error", when it's also on radar AND the pilots see it. [18:25:40] https://youtu.be/a6tDHZj5q5Q?t=785 [18:25:48] and you have to admit that this looks rather real. [18:25:51] And like a space ship. [18:26:10] ah this is new [18:26:14] i mean new tome [18:26:23] Shiny polished hull to get rid of heat [18:26:44] mostly spherical. balloon? [18:27:08] moving at the speed of sound? [18:27:17] now that is interesting [18:27:32] way more interesting than the ir videos [18:27:37] dont forget about the launch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRu-ekesDyY [18:28:01] tbh, the one picture looks like a space ship we would design. [18:28:05] There's a ring around it [18:28:09] and two "drives"? [18:28:57] the real question is: Why don't the detect the radar from the planes? Or do they just not care at all? [18:29:25] or... is radar so ancient to them that they don't scan for it? [18:30:56] at 14:05 she says "like it's moving in its own space". And that is probably the solution. We have theories about this and call it "warp drive". [18:31:19] if you can move the space around you than air doesn't matter, water doesn't matter, maybe even matter doesn't matter... [18:31:20] oh yes kuma kuma kuma bear [18:31:59] maybe it's all about energy. So you need a certain amount of energy to "bend" stuff around you [18:32:05] hm [18:32:18] could be a secondary technology though [18:32:35] you want a kugelblitz powered spaceship? that is quite high tech from the point where we stand [18:33:29] it is almost like the romulan artificial black hole powered ships [18:33:48] hrhr [18:34:30] that thing looks a bit romulan [18:34:40] it does [18:36:13] it looks like a camper, the old airstream, with a ring around it and two gondolas [18:36:41] In my head I've tried to simulate a warp field that uses only two gondolas and not the whole ring [18:37:29] like this one http://www.itsastrangeworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/nasa-warp-drive-20151.jpg [18:37:29] 21 minutes and no stream yet [18:38:05] it should be possible to create a almost round warp field with only three gondolas. Maybe even reduce it to two. [18:38:15] *even possible to [18:39:50] wesley's static warp bubble :) [18:42:45] music [18:45:56] t-12 min [18:56:57] t-1 min [18:58:00] liftoff [18:59:09] omg a visible sonic boom [18:59:13] that looked so nice [18:59:30] you could see the exact moment it broke through the sound barrier [19:05:30] heh image lost on the first stage [19:06:21] oh come on, not even video from the ship [19:06:27] ah there it is [19:06:54] not exactly in the enter [19:27:37] it is wednesday. no wintergatan video up yet [19:30:40] he posted things on Instagram which I know because I read on discord... ;) [19:30:51] so we might see something play today [19:31:09] that is tomorrow for me [19:31:39] i cant even wait for the deploy [19:35:04] What are you doing instead of waiting? :) [19:35:12] sleeping [19:35:17] k :) [19:41:20] burn coming up [19:44:26] burn ok [22:19:50] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/26/airships-for-city-hops-could-cut-flyings-co2-emissions-by-90 could be interesting [22:28:51] Better for cargo than passengers [22:29:28] wouldnt know that, but cutting down pollution is great [22:29:50] "He said that 47% of regional aeroplane flights connect cities that are less than 230 miles (370km) apart," [22:29:53] uh [22:30:06] That's driving distance [22:30:18] Or I guess if you're going to insist on something else, how's HS2 going? [22:30:21] yeah seems not everyone wants to drive [22:30:48] "The aircraft, which can take off and land from almost any flat surface, reached heights of 7,000ft (2,100m) and speeds of up to 50 knots (57mph) during its final tests. " [22:30:51] Oh [22:32:54] This suggests that for the purposes of intercity travel it's competitive with... buses [22:33:03] right [22:33:15] And in some cases amtrak, but that's amtrak [22:33:39] more flexability though and no traffic [22:33:50] imagine delivery service landing on roof, for deliveries [22:33:57] and you get a view too [22:34:02] no double parking [22:34:22] How are you getting to it/from it? [22:34:30] yeah [22:34:31] Are you sure about the no traffic, given airspace regulations? [22:34:45] Can it actually do the flexible point to point that you're describing? [22:34:47] raptop: same ways you get to and away from buses, trains, short range planes [22:34:53] I'd expect to be operating out of normalish airports [22:35:38] XXCoder: I've actually given up on some attempts to use trains upon realizing that it would need to have long term parking at one end, and a family memeber would need to drive 10+ miles to pick me up at the other [22:36:00] yeah when live alone with no nearby friends or family makes it harder [22:36:05] true for anyone really [22:36:48] (The specific case I'm thinking of is Kansas City <--> Santa Fe) [22:37:51] Buses, uh, I never was able to use them when I lived in KC. I think the nearest stop was over a mile away? [22:38:10] Now in the DC area, I have used them, though been frequently let down by the system [22:38:23] yeah usa isnt much on bus :( [22:38:49] (What about the subway you ask? Well, it's nice when I can use it, but the nearest stop is ~3.2 miles away, and I've fallen between the cracks on buses fairly often) [22:41:54] Walking home from the station because I'm between buses or after the last bus is totally doable, and I've done so on I think at least 4 occasions [22:42:31] what is subway? ;) [22:42:43] never been in one [22:44:28] heavy rail intracity transit that for some reason is rarely standard gauge [22:44:44] typically underground near the city center [22:47:35] Action: raptop is to be clear complaining primarily about WMATA and BART, though some rail systems in Pennsylvania probably also count [22:47:55] lol ok :) [22:48:04] sadly in west usa subs is pretty rare