[00:11:17] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [00:11:17] hi [00:11:46] hi [00:11:51] I've just started off [00:12:04] trying to do an SSTO [00:12:24] a spaceplane SSTO? [00:12:32] can't seem to get out of the atmosphere, yet I've got hella delta V [00:12:38] yuppers [00:13:04] I cap at 380-odd meters per second [00:13:13] then pitch down unavoidably [00:13:26] unsure if it's the craft or my piloting\ [00:14:18] I did alt-f12 to place myself in orbit to see if it would land safely and it glides like a dream [00:14:38] but I feel as if I'm throwing myself against a wall [00:14:50] or rather, kerbals against the ocean [00:15:04] its probably a matter of speed/intake/thrust/weight [00:15:27] if you're too heavy, you can't get up to speed to get a proper amount of intake/thrust for your jet engines to function properly [00:16:06] Yeah, at least some engines lose thrust at mach 1, and drag does peak around there. [00:16:19] I know some craft/players have a portion where the ascent includes a dive to get above it [00:16:19] what's helped me solve this is reducing the amount of fuel [00:16:36] Yeah, aircraft are weird in how sometimes less is more (because of drag) [00:16:39] sometimes i do that, sometimes i fire my orbital thrusters for a bit of a boost [00:16:59] 1 nerv and 2 rapiers [00:17:11] I tried nosing down [00:17:20] switch the rapiers to closed cycle for a bit [00:17:30] to test things out [00:17:42] certainly [00:17:52] that's how I got to 380ms [00:18:08] 2o degrees got me to 30km [00:18:15] 20* [00:18:17] then you're just too heavy, i reckon [00:18:29] twr is 1.67 [00:18:44] numbers mean nothing to me [00:18:47] i do everything by feel [00:18:51] fair nuff [00:20:25] should I give up on making it a mining rig [00:21:45] i can't imagine 2 rapiers being capable of bringing a mining rig and nerv into orbit [00:22:20] but i have almost no experience with rapiers [00:28:04] mini rig but yeah maybe underpowered [00:28:12] unsure what else to use [00:28:26] attempting to figure out screenshotting [00:28:52] replace the nerv with another rapier and see what happens [00:32:18] You could use rockets. [00:38:29] https://imgur.com/a/T5LGLcm [01:15:37] @darsie how so? do you mean those such as the vector engine? [01:16:15] I'm a bit scatterbrained, partially due to the cooking of the all important snacks [01:20:27] shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu: orange tank + skipper can get you something like 4 tonnes to LKO. (IIRC, an orange tank is a bit too much propellant for the engine, but eh) [01:23:21] hmm [01:23:42] now it reaaaly wants to go left, and smashed its bckside off [01:23:48] *really [01:38:22] now it seems to be overpowered [01:38:45] leaps to 95m/s then does a power slide [01:38:46] then you can scale back down or add more weight! [01:39:01] maybe I'm stupid but [01:39:15] WHERE DO I ADD MORE WEIGHT OMG [01:39:33] without increasing drag overmuch [01:39:40] somewhere in the middle [01:40:07] extra fuel/oxidizer then [01:43:10] oh my thats a long nick [01:45:11] Action: raptop wonders what esper's max length is [01:46:03] it was supposed to be "shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatube [01:46:27] so it must be 31 [01:48:12] now it truly has all of the wibbly-wobbly and none of the timey-wimey [02:04:23] no Doctor Who fans allowed here I'm afraid [02:13:26] Action: umaxtu takes a sip from his Tardis mug [03:51:55] Action: packbart is listening to 11th Doctor Audio Books [04:19:31] audio books? [04:24:56] yes. I like listening better than reading. Eyes are not multi-tasking [04:28:57] doctor who books? [04:29:28] yes. there are lots of them. most of them by Big Finish [04:29:56] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_audiobooks [04:34:14] huh. til [04:34:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Althego' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:34:40] I'm still not caught up on the 12th's antics [13:26:29] CKAN are you okay? Eggplant? https://social.shadowkat.net/media/6ab0b548bb23b7ecad1daa7b43ad4a7a10e1d11fcc0d59b96c4919d56213cb47.png [13:27:06] you have a folder called 'eggplant' on your desktop [13:27:26] It appears I do. [13:27:28] Huh. [13:27:41] Action: Izaya doesn't run anything that provides desktop icons and generally forgets the folder exists [13:28:25] why do you have a folder called eggplant on your desktop? [13:28:51] Got a mod for RimWorld that screenshots the map at regular intervals, and apparently I used the seed "eggplant" [13:31:05] https://social.shadowkat.net/xmpp/upload/fjIRXtssskCljkXS/w.jpg [14:38:51] docking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg [14:39:05] the prichal iss module [14:52:06] nice nice [15:00:37] I wonder if the ISS will be spun around again... [15:00:51] seems to be a common occurance now [15:01:44] Exactly [15:05:00] Also I hope all of you have soled their Lilium stonks, because they will soon run out of money... [15:10:38] lilium was the much overrated elfen lied opening [15:20:51] the end looked really bad, it was seriously misaligned at it was visible that id did fast corrections [15:38:03] you mean the video from two weeks ago? [15:38:15] no, this one [15:38:35] it was even a comical timing that the american said perfectly aligned, and the russian side said 30 deg off [15:38:58] hrhr [15:39:18] I really wonder what is going on at Roskosmos? They had such a great software department for years and now this? [15:40:29] hired ex-kerbal programmers? :) [15:41:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:44:25] switched to kOS [15:53:38] that sounds like a mission [15:53:48] now we just need to find an outcome [15:59:42] an unscheduled kOS update delayed your maneuver node [16:00:12] I didn't know we were up to kOS 10 [16:00:42] isn't it 11 by now? [16:01:14] I think I'll be sticking to kOS 2000 either way [16:04:38] kOS 95 was the best one. [16:04:52] does it have a windows naming scheme? [16:05:10] or are we talking about ms stuff now? [16:09:47] Red Onion is better, eehniweeh! :) [16:10:02] (ok, it's Lua... still better than that kOS syntax) [17:05:18] kikkeri-ho-ho-ho lol [17:15:21] Should I be concerned by the menu ideas? [17:16:11] seems turkey is on now [18:23:47] Kikkerikuu [19:31:42] The crew of the ISS begins singing "you spin me right 'round" [19:35:33] what, AGAIN?! [19:51:50] lul what [19:52:08] I ran out of oxidiser [19:52:28] not yet, but they are already expecting it :) [19:53:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:53:49] with 5740 lf and 1060 ox, I ran out of oxidiser at 2161 units of fuel... meaning for every 3579 lf I require 1060 oxidiser...correct? [19:56:15] The wiki says: "Rocket engines using liquid fuel and oxidizer, use a volumetric mixture of 9 units of liquid fuel per 11 units of oxidizer." [19:56:41] ( https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Liquid_fuel ) [19:57:12] Yeah, all of the stock ones do that. I think shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu is also using jet engines at some points so wants additional lf [19:57:56] yeah, the page says "Jet engines use intake air in a volumetric mixture of 1 unit of liquid fuel per 15 units of intake air." [19:58:09] and it gets more complicated if you run nukes at the same time [19:58:28] I did as you suggested and switched to a rapier [19:58:40] which is why oxidiser became a problm [19:59:30] I had originally chosen a NERV for the efficiency and lack of high ox drain [20:01:04] the nuke is really heavy, so it is only efficient for low twr long burns [20:55:48] thanks [21:11:36] the auto-generated subtitles on the nasa stream [21:11:56] gamma rays? no, Camrys [21:12:54] (inaudible) work has uncovered previously overlooked orbits that can produce [21:13:04] EXTREMELY ENERGETIC CAMRYS [21:15:46] Oh no, a 10 MeV Toyota has collided with me! [21:29:27] outcome [21:30:30] switched to kOS, a 10MeV Toyota has collided with you!