[01:04:12] "gzip compressed data, has original file name: "piggy", from Unix" [01:04:34] Linksys apparently names their firmware source "piggy" ? [01:05:21] ¯\_(Ä)_/¯ [01:40:32] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:10:55] Neal: it's the one that went to market [04:11:17] lmao [04:12:13] I extracted the contents of piggy and it contains linux kernel version.... drum roll please... [04:12:19] linux kernel 2.6.22 [04:12:39] not great for a router that directly faces the web [04:29:06] if it makes you feel any better, my router's still running OpenWRT 10 [05:43:43] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v Guest91468' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:01:03] there was a nice upper stage camera [07:01:11] although tiny [09:26:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:59:12] uh ok, the upepr stage of my koyuz T rocket has 3100m/s of dv [12:59:18] sounds like it is enough [13:02:49] depends for what [13:04:13] the upper stage also has a twr of 1.8 [13:04:39] this rocket might be overbuilt for any payload under 30t [13:06:06] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/527834544032841770/20181227140458_1.jpg [13:12:34] "how many SoI changes can i get with one maneuver? :p [13:15:07] if I used the second stage as a sat it would have enough twr to get anywhere i the kerbol system [13:15:21] but well, it was designed to be a super heavy lift rocket [14:24:02] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWz7sT9XU70 [14:24:03] YouTube - ONE OF THE MOST DETAILED ISS TOUR!!! #2 [DEUTSCHE VERSION] [14:24:26] hehe right off the bat, one claps, so does the other to mess it up [14:24:52] hehe in german [14:27:40] hehe live zebrafish... in zero g there is no buoyancy, they must have been quite annoyed by that [14:30:11] always surprises me that i still understand german [14:44:49] r4m0n: are you here, and regardless of if you are or not, can you point me at any resources regarding using C# as a sandboxed scripting language? [14:45:56] somehow that sounds funny [14:46:27] A psychic person with dwarfism escaped from prison. The newspaper's headline read "Small medium at large". [14:48:22] "freight train breaks the sound barrier" is still my favorite [14:49:52] this? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkbRAGfW0AIU7dq.jpg [14:50:16] there are two results, both are you :) [14:50:20] exactly [14:50:29] what [14:50:38] for the above sentence [14:50:49] one contains umbralraptor too [14:51:07] ah you mean in here [14:51:14] no, by google [14:51:26] someone's chat logs? [14:51:47] on twitter I only translated it to japanese [14:52:03] ok back to the german space station tour [14:52:29] they still had the atv [14:52:37] that was discontinued since then [14:52:38] btw Althego in case the C# thing does not work out I have now sunk low enough to use javascript [14:52:47] hehe [14:53:09] I mean I originally wanted an esotheric lang anyway ;) [14:53:20] brainf...? :) [14:53:38] can also recommend piet and mondrian :) [14:53:54] a domain specific esolang [14:54:37] one that fulfills the purpose but is still kinda weird [15:20:11] hehe the russians have their own windows, not as nice as the cupola, but still [15:22:06] and even among the german comments somebody mentions the flat earthers [15:24:36] i still think i should learn some russian. there are parts where the yspeak in russian in this video [15:26:32] shoots imax movie of the earth in free time [15:31:08] https://youtu.be/lyyrvYdin-0 [15:31:08] YouTube - volantex asw28 maiden [15:50:49] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:55:39] so nevermind, the javascript library I was looking at is not cross platfofm [15:58:09] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/527877834849386526/DSC_0318.MOV.Image_fixe002.jpg [15:59:09] Fluburtur: that looks cold. [16:01:06] Glass: JS not cross platform? [16:01:11] How does that work? [16:02:01] this glider is so nice to fly [16:02:09] handles super well and tracks like an arrow [16:02:36] Gliderrow [16:06:49] BPlayer: I think Glass|phone means that it's not working for every browser [16:07:03] there are certain javascript functions that aren't supported by some of them [16:07:37] In that case, use IE as a special case. Once you exclude IE, the library should work everywhere [16:07:39] :P [16:10:43] It's called Edge and Microsoft is going to use Chrome as base for the next version, because Google kept sabotaging edge [16:10:51] I wonder where the EU is to sue Google over it [16:14:23] BPlayer: no, js as a game scripting language [16:29:37] PowerShell might be worth looking at [16:33:19] I have Win 10 for one or two months now, and still haven't gotten used to PowerShell [16:33:56] The one thing I really do like, though, is that they have a built in SSH client now [16:34:02] you dont need ri [16:34:05] to [16:34:20] Hehe, keyboard misalignment [16:35:10] Althego: I guess the good old cmd will be obsolete soon [16:35:22] Soon enough for it to matter in my case, at least [16:35:44] supposedly you can install bash on win [16:35:50] win10 [16:36:13] windows is a game launcher anyway, for work i am on linux :) [16:36:33] I do not intend to use bash on Windows. That would be tasteless :P [16:37:05] hehe [16:37:21] dont go lower than zsh? [16:38:28] I shall set up another hard drive with Linux on it, for dual booting this PC. But I don't have the time (or the hard drive) [16:38:43] One day, the time will come [16:41:33] Boost delete activated: https://i.imgur.com/liL5o41.png [16:43:22] delete all the .css [16:43:50] powershell doesn't seem to make for a great game scripting language [16:43:56] wipe them out, all of then [16:43:57] m [16:44:15] >creating a moddable game in 2018 [16:45:22] ...maybe I have to go back to lua [16:45:43] lua is the usual choice [16:45:50] but js or python is also embeddable [16:46:39] I still don't know how you would properly distribute Python without bringing the interpreter with the package [16:46:57] IronPython? [16:47:15] abandoned tho iirc [16:48:15] Looks slightly obsolete [16:48:30] also python has the issue of depending on spaces and newlines [16:48:32] Though they say " [16:48:33] 2.7.9 released on 2018-10-09" [16:49:38] No wonder my backup space was filled up [16:50:38] I had earlier backed up my large USB thumb drive to my user memory, and only later I created a backup drive where I copied my user memory. So I had a backup of a backup [16:51:20] Luckily I found that, so 100 GB of trash are going POOF right now. Feels satisfying [16:53:42] anyway my requirements are supports all three PC OSes (ideally purely .net), sandboxable, zero based indexing, concise syntax for mathematical expressions (and ideally largely code compatible to c-style ones), can be reasonably embedded in a json string [16:54:23] if I drop one or two of these it gets easy [16:54:24] you just need to drop one of your bogus arguments [16:54:36] or requirements [16:54:51] which one [16:55:00] for example zero based indexing :) [16:55:10] why is that bogus [16:55:14] does not change the usability of the language [16:55:48] and since yesterday you already dropped th ewhitespace thing [16:56:08] if array indices are off by one from API methods that degrades usability [16:56:10] Why do you need JSON? [16:56:29] the whitespaces and newlines make it difficult to fit into a json string [16:56:49] BPlayer: because my game asset definitions are json and need embedded scripts [16:56:51] So write a parser ;-9 [16:56:54] ;-)* [16:57:28] the parser is not the problem, the interpreter is [16:58:02] ...what about PHP? [16:58:30] must not have been obsolete for half a decade [16:58:50] PHP is not obsolete [16:58:57] PHP 7 is a thing [17:55:58] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:07:05] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:01:16] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Why use one megaton strategic yield weapon when you could use two megatons? [19:01:59] why use that, if you can use the tsar bomba [19:02:41] UR-500 ICBM intensifies [19:02:42] Something something use the material to make half a dozen MIRV'd warheads. [19:03:05] Action: Scolar_Visari begins to ponder if nukes are really worth it in Children of a Dead Earth [19:03:07] use the money to make cat girls [19:03:24] money well spent [19:03:47] Hm . . . I prefer the nukes if those are my two options. [19:03:53] Action: UmbralRaptor actually knows a bunch of people who want to be catgirls these days >_> [19:04:26] Also, wouldn't the tsar bomba have been like 300 megatons if designed for maximum yield given the size/weight constraints? [19:04:47] Dunno, though I wonder if that would be enough to make it an anti-missile system, but in space. [19:04:58] (As opposed to a crash project to demonstrate a large bomb) [19:05:00] Action: Scolar_Visari now seriously wonder why CoaDE doesn't have nuked pumped bombs. [19:05:06] Er, nuke pumped lazers. [19:06:17] Action: Scolar_Visari also wonders why no one seems to be particularly critical with their reports of the new, "hypersonic missile". [19:06:30] Action: UmbralRaptor really should play CoaDE at some point [19:07:01] "hypersonic missile" so, like an AIM-54? [19:07:08] UmbralRaptor: It's like KSP, but with nukes. [19:07:17] hah [19:07:56] The Tsirkon, which allegedly moves at Mach 8 and uses a plasma sheath to remain invisible to reflective radar. How it would do the latter and distant target acquisition at the same time has never been explained. [19:09:09] This particular claim sets off several red flags: "It also manoeuvres at all phases of its flight trajectory, which also allows it to overcome all existing and, I think, prospective anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense systems." [19:09:40] Uh-huh . . . [19:13:03] So something that's stupid bright in infrared and moving at Mach 8+ is going to somehow dodge missiles that already have similar speeds that hit smaller targets? [19:18:53] This sort of reminds me of the whole DF-21D thing . . . [19:23:46] Also: Where did the Federation find the money for the research? [19:29:13] Action: Scolar_Visari is amused that some of the depictions of the Zircon are copies of the X-51 with different textures. [19:30:01] Case in point: https://bit.ly/2LrYFPS [19:30:26] Which looks suspiciously similar to https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/X-51A_Waverider.jpg/1024px-X-51A_Waverider.jpg [19:42:16] Action: Scolar_Visari goes off to design a hypersonic boarding missile. [19:43:26] super fast surfboard. but where is silver surfer? [19:44:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:45:55] and now, commercials: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au3R0H0zYHQ [19:45:55] YouTube - Ruthe.de - Werbeparodien 11 [20:00:14] Uh, I think we should only post English videos here [20:01:30] Besides, it is not fully appropriate [20:08:41] so there is a javascript interpreter called jint which may do what I want [20:10:13] how very original in naming [20:11:16] unfortunately I can't be picky about naming [20:12:13] heck even using javascript at all is a huge compromise [20:13:35] note: do not run programs where the topmost item on the download page is a dedicated CUDA build on an old office PC [20:38:33] Besides, it is not fully appropriate <-- if that's not "appropriate" then i don't know anymore what is... [21:11:33] how do people even program on german keyboards where it is physically painful to type {} [21:11:59] i never understood the fascination and self inflicted harm of germans with the german layout [21:12:00] yes, fully agree with you [21:12:15] nothing wrong with it for typing a letter [21:12:18] breaks the fu fingers man [21:12:35] shell, programming, vim, anything more complicated, and it is out of the question [21:13:32] You don't need a convenient keyboard layout if you are good enough [21:13:33] :P [21:14:05] Seriously though, switching between the two is a pain, because of z and y [21:14:23] yes that is an other issue [21:14:34] unfortunately the hungarian layout got that from the german [21:14:38] its easiar to copy the { to your clipboard and use autocomplete [21:14:44] hehe [21:14:55] I had a time where I would tzpe mz words incorrectlz because of that [21:15:19] that's me right now [21:15:20] i solved it, i used querty hungarian, as it should be :) [21:15:46]

breaks the fu fingers man <-- i usually use 2 hands for {} [21:15:59] but I also look for cars on the wrong side when crossing a road so keyboards are not my biggest problem [21:16:00] :) [21:16:08] sometimes somehow win10 switched to the qwertz, you could see it here too. but i removed that layout from the selection and now it is always ok [21:16:17] right hand presses AltGr, left hand 7890 [21:16:29] still, tehre is a worse offense then qwertz. azerty :) [21:16:46] so the french have it the worst [21:17:14] I use left thumb on AltGr, left middle finger on 7890 [21:17:15] and pilots. because the cdu/fms is in abcd layout [21:17:33] I only use the right hand [21:17:40] Right hand* [21:17:42] Apologies [21:17:46] what a perversion. sounds logical first, but then you realize decades of conditioning makes it harder to type on abcd [21:18:05] or my wife, it depends [21:18:30] do people still know how to type T9? [21:18:30] Ahem. [21:18:49] did people ever really know? [21:18:57] hehe [21:19:02] t9? that wa impossible to use [21:19:14] i was better with just simply typing the words [21:19:39] and in fact i think i wa around as fast as now when we have the smartphone soft keyboards [21:19:40] a bit training and t9 was working good [21:20:49] i never really used it much, but it had a bit of a problem with compound words [21:21:48] ...so I just dropped in jint where I had moonsharp before and threw out my hacky lua transpiler out and the game runs like it did before [21:22:26] say i wanted to type "Abfahrtszeit" i would have needed to type "Abfahrt" "s" and "zeit" separately [21:23:05] Donaudamfschifffahrtsgesellschaftkapitänsmütze [21:23:40] well, except that the transpiler was dealing with issues not specific to lua [21:23:42] BPlayer: that would need testing, someone could have reasonably be expected to put that in the t9 dictionary :p [22:49:38] hello everyone [22:50:11] i was wondering if in anyway to mod the game so that the kerbin looks like earth in 1.6.0 [22:51:13] I know there's a mod to scale kerbin and the atmosphere more properly [22:51:22] Probably look into something like Real Solar System? [22:51:31] bah [22:54:07] Action: jgkamat wonders why people would ever leave so quickly [23:06:53] rescale is pretty nice if you want to keep the mun and minmus where they are tbh [23:07:10] real solar system is much more annoying to traverse :v [23:13:47] Action: JVFoxy ponders.... [23:14:00] something of a different mun landing mission I'm doing.. [23:14:39] launching lander separate, docking with transfer vehicle then going over. Makes me wonder, why Apollo did it all in one go, rather than two separate smaller launches. [23:26:37] https://66.media.tumblr.com/07b09fa066b5d1967805dd49b87e61d6/tumblr_pkf49uPno01sczaog_540.jpg [23:31:07] trying to figure out what expression that bird has... [23:31:09] http://barktime.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/catmoticons.jpg [23:38:52] that is totally missing ¯\_(Ä)_/¯ [23:40:12] JVFoxy: Not sure Fry, I think [23:42:50] build crazy big rocket, lift everything off from the pad all at once... [23:44:14] guess.. means less parts to build, though R&D on something bigger may have taken more time instead? [23:45:00] Few different things. [23:45:58] Initially Apollo was going to be direct ascent, though they explored EOR before selecting LOR. [23:46:30] The Saturn V actually gained capacity during development o_O [23:46:36] it's america, "go big or go home" [23:47:16] Oh, and there were larger engines being considered [23:47:46] Action: UmbralRaptor gestures at Nova designs that would have used multiple M-1 engines. [23:50:05] Ya.. I remember the 'Direct' project... they even considered doing it earlier with Gemini Advanced or 'Big Gemini' project [23:50:27] i recently watched this video where they talked about the intricate balance they had to figure out to make one large engine work, whereas the russians just said "aw scrap this, we're just using 4 nozzles" [23:50:44] kind of crazy the amount of proposed projects that just got.. dumped to the side.. [23:51:12] i'm assuming the 80-20 rule applies there [23:52:00] no idea what that means [23:52:21] eh, the NK-15 were single nozzle. Ditto the RD-253. [23:53:23] the 80-20 rule was discovered by an italian mathematician about 200 years ago, who studied the distribution of land, resulting in 20% of the people owning 80% of the land. you find this kind of distribution almost everywhere [23:53:39] (N1 and @>B>= first stage engines, respectively) [23:53:46] Action: JVFoxy ohs [23:57:16] like, if you take a large text, 20% of the words used will make up 80% of the text [23:57:49] and about 50% of the words will appear only one single time [23:59:32] also, the n-th most common word will appear 1/n-th the amount of time as the most common word