[01:25:59] OMG, I made a Minmus lab rocket, used the Mun to expand the orbit and match the inclination and I'm almost there ... and forgot the sensors ... [01:28:19] oops [01:42:19] The Mun flyby gives my new scientist XP. Might become another 3*. [01:43:03] I love the rocket. Such a great low flyer when ascending to orbit. [01:43:31] nice [01:43:51] (I swear I'm not just an encouraging bot) [01:43:57] :) [01:45:41] Second stage is a Terrier instead of a Poodle, cause 5.5 TWR on Minmus should be enough. http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot0.png [01:52:21] Action: UmbralRaptor likes that rather conventional looking rockets are reasonable now [05:21:39] Action: Flayer licks everybody's face [05:23:21] io error, network tongue not installed [05:35:30] 50 days until the duna transfer window opens up [05:36:13] about 200 for mars [05:36:29] nasa is sending a rover, aren't they? [05:36:50] yep [05:37:08] i'm still just so excited about how much we got from the previous rovers [05:37:17] they lasted so long! [05:46:11] curiosity still has a few years in the wheels [06:18:22] do you think we will find life on other bodies in our solar system? [06:18:46] i really hope life will be ridiciously common [06:19:50] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjtOGPJ0URM [06:19:50] YouTube - Why Alien Life Would be our Doom - The Great Filter [06:20:42] i'm not that pessimitic :P [06:20:52] i'm not englishing very well right now [06:20:58] it is not bad because they would kill us [06:21:37] it is bad because it means a great filter is ahead of us [06:21:52] this is all such theoretical nonsense [06:21:54] not interesting [06:22:09] life is as good thing, no matter how it establishes itself [06:22:45] despite of this, i think there is a possibility that mars still has life underground [06:22:56] yeah, it seems very likely to me as well [06:23:05] also europa and enceladus [06:23:17] yep. almost inevitable somehoe [06:23:20] somehow.* [06:23:25] that kind of life is immune to almost anything on the surface [06:24:11] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oijEsqT2QKQ [06:24:11] YouTube - Jurassic Park 3D Movie CLIP - Life Finds a Way (1993) - Steven Spielberg Movie HD [06:24:21] hehe [06:24:38] i spared no expense [06:24:53] that's really the most insperational thing i've ever heard [06:24:53] except the sysadmin [06:25:08] life finds a way... i mean, that's just how it is [06:25:20] people find a way to exist no matter the circumstances [06:25:31] not universally. there were many dying events [06:25:35] even then [06:25:40] life persists. [06:26:01] unstil it doesnt. but bacterial life underground is very hard to kill [06:26:05] dying and all that, but the concept of life is not... taken down, y'know? [06:26:09] exactly [06:26:18] you keep going [06:26:28] it always makes me sad when i think of the fact that life has only a few hundred million years remaining on this planet [06:27:02] i find life easier to approach when i think of the notion of how stubborn the concept of life is [06:27:09] it just keeps going [06:27:22] plants, bacteria, anything at all, y'know? [06:28:12] a few hundred million years ought to be enough for us to spread like a plague across several stars [06:28:18] i think we can do it [06:28:21] humanity is exceptional [06:28:46] all it would take is half a dozen of seed vessels to other stars [06:28:51] we'd keep going XD [06:29:26] we wouldn't even have to send humans if life was really that rare [06:29:36] just bacteria... let evolution do its thing [06:30:00] that would take billions of years. at least send tardigrades [06:30:05] yeah, sure [06:30:09] whatever, you know? [06:30:17] send a bunch of life to other places [06:30:24] it seems multicellurality is one of the great filters [06:30:28] if its really all that rar.e.. which it won't be [06:30:33] i mean, come on it happened here XD [06:33:23] based on this one data point life seems to happen easily. multicellular life is a lot harder [06:33:34] sure [06:33:48] but if we find life on another body in our own solar system [06:33:53] even if its just bacteria [06:34:05] multicellular life will be so fucking common [06:34:24] it's gonna be everywhere with a little bit of stability [06:38:10] i can't really imagine it being any other way [07:38:49] Action: TheKosmonaut sees flayer's name and carefully slides the "no bad language" over to them [07:39:01] hehe [07:39:08] I like my skin. But mind community guidelines pls. [07:39:09] sofa king :) [11:21:14] From equatorial orbit, Mun flyby to expand orbit and change plane to Minmus: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot1.png [11:22:43] Execution will be off due to non instanteneous dv. [11:22:58] With staging during burn. [12:03:39] https://skarmdump.henjoh.se/KMRRS_KerbinMainResearchAndRefuelingStation.PNG <- so i got the hang of docking. [12:05:36] wow, bright screenshot of KSP [12:05:48] hehe [12:05:53] i always dock in full darkness [12:05:55] somehow [12:06:23] but actually you dont need the visuals, just the navball [12:06:30] could ksp physically support a dyson object? [12:06:37] it already did [12:07:27] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6EEYvUQA00 [12:07:27] YouTube - KSP - Dyson Sphere [12:10:05] it's not really that [12:10:17] looks more like a dyson swarm [12:10:49] i mean, custom star [12:14:15] NGC3982, anyway, looks good [13:05:45] On approach to landing on Minmus I wanted to fly over some highland and was too low. Lost three solar panels. [13:06:23] Should have turned them horizontal :). [13:14:35] my station launches always end up toppling over for some reason [14:39:52] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:59:02] Tech tree complete, all buildings fully upgraded. [14:59:38] now collect all science :) [15:02:35] :) [15:05:42] I'd like to fly RSS, but it's too buggy :(. [15:07:06] What's the biome of Jool? Jool? [15:07:50] I could fly a barometer to Jool. [15:10:51] you can always try to build an eve sea level return vehicle [15:11:21] Yeah, I thought about that. Maybe with propellers. [15:15:06] delacy alpha lima tango, welcome to this federal facility [16:08:55] a new pilot, verman kerman [16:41:52] is eve the hardest planet to land and return from with kerbonauts? [16:43:00] maybe, tylo is a close match [16:43:08] because you haveto use fuel to land there [16:43:40] it is not like the gentle, just dont catch fire on the way down like on eve [16:43:48] it is like omg omg om just dont crash [16:44:12] the only planet where you have to stage while going down [17:28:27] 20 km Tylo orbit should be 2135 m/s. And you need dv to get there. [17:28:36] ?::?:? [17:28:48] https://hackaday.com/2019/12/27/russias-newest-weather-satellite-may-have-be-killed-by-space-junk/ [17:29:16] Kessler syndrome is here. [17:29:59] Hmm, escape velocity 3 068.81 m/s. That might be within one stage. [17:31:47] no more lanches this year [17:35:19] Action: darsie launches KSP. [17:45:20] This little bug has 3802 m/s. TWR is a bit weak, but at a final 1.54 it might be able to land without staging. http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot5.png [17:45:45] cute [17:48:14] Now there are 4235 m/s and plenty of TWR: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot6.png [17:48:42] 4236* [17:51:33] At 3980 m/s, the Vector should have no issues, either, and allow for some payload, too: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot7.png [17:52:52] Scale it up and you can bring a fuel factory to get away, too. [17:53:05] at a TWR of 20, throttling for touchdown can get a bit hairy [17:53:06] from where [17:53:14] Tylo [17:59:49] Something like this should land on Tylo single stage and get away, too: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot8.png [18:00:09] or make it smaller multi stage [18:00:43] also where i the por source [18:00:52] power [18:01:07] missing, radiators, too. [18:01:12] and landing legs. [18:01:21] eh [18:01:40] but in tis case you do need legs [18:01:57] It's just an estimate, not a complete design. [18:03:11] expect to lose maybe 10% of the delta v estimate to landing [18:03:55] mhm. It has 4673. Escape is 3069. [18:06:58] packbart: Just limit thrust to 10%. [18:16:10] 500 ms should be enough to go from a mun flyby to docking with the mun station, yeah? [18:17:45] mhm [18:18:02] IIRC it's 280 m/s from low orbit to Kerbin. [18:18:17] there's more fuel on the station [18:18:22] to get back [18:20:11] https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png says 310 m/s. [18:20:50] then i'm going with a full load of snacks too [18:21:21] ofc this means coming from Kerbin, not Eeloo. [18:21:28] i'll go light on the monoprop and the ablator [18:23:03] i mean i could just put a bigger booster underneath or drop the completely unnecessary landing gear, but this is how i'm going to do it lol [20:10:08] ooof... ok guess I didn't need quite /that/ much fuel for a long range in-flight contract. It only used 1/4 of what I threw in [20:11:24] 5 of them Mk1 tanks.. managed to do a detour into the badlands, but ugh... seems to land like an ol' 747 in ways [20:56:21] i keep getting eve exploration missions even though the duna window is coming up in 40 days [20:56:50] actually the career games starts just at the end of an eve launch window [20:57:04] so if you hurry you can launch something at the beginning of the game for eve [20:57:53] but ultimately it is pointless, since you get all the tree long before that probe gets there [20:58:16] you and i play different games [21:05:10] obviously, i have been playing elite the last few days. hasnt played it for 5 years [21:13:49] different routes for different people [21:13:53] or however the saying goes [21:32:37] wee... polar cap mission [22:43:31] Action: NGC3982 makes his space station enormous [23:38:48] https://skarmdump.henjoh.se/KMRRS_KerbinMainResearchAndRefuelingStation2.PNG [23:38:54] i can't get my station to stop moving [23:39:11] any way i can fix it? it's constantly moving back and forward [23:49:19] turn on time warp ;)