[05:42:42] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSA5Bq-1fU4 - It's going to start with Amazon. [07:26:25] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:51:15] stars are weird http://www.astroscu.unam.mx/rmaa/RMxAC..22/PDF/RMxAC..22_adams.pdf [10:06:21] https://physics.aps.org/story/v22/st20 Light even more [10:06:52] Sounds like a fascinating read, UmbralRaptop [10:07:40] Mat2ch, are they sure that's not due to heat? [10:09:51] Yes, apparently, they checked for that [10:09:53] "The researchers performed a second experiment with a longer fiber and continuous–rather than pulsed–laser light and found similar results. The tip of the hanging fiber moved sideways like a pendulum by about 30 microns, which agreed with the tiny force (less than a billionth of a Newton) that they predicted. The team also verified that thermal effects, such as heat expansion, would be too small to influence the fibe [10:09:53] r’s movement." [10:10:53] Although not a definitive answer, it's a very interesting study. [10:17:06] Yo Fluburtur [10:17:13] ay [10:17:20] I'm heading SOUTH! [10:17:30] nice [10:17:39] Due South. That was a great series, but I digress [10:18:23] 22k fuel remaining [10:19:02] sounds like enough [10:19:21] I'm about half way between the arctic ice sheet and the equator [10:19:33] Noooo more than that [10:19:38] More like 2/3 of the way [10:20:30] 28° 37' N [10:20:30] how long did the mission take so far? [10:21:04] I don't know because the mission timer reset every time I launched one of the auxiliary craft [10:22:02] Oh heck, and I just realised I was on a collision course with a land mass [10:22:12] Sailing at night is dangerous from map view [10:23:22] i've tried reading the link, but i still didn't figure out whether they say that light increases or reduces momentum in denser material [10:23:44] So it says "Total mission 10 days 4 hours" but that's only since I last launched another craft from it [10:24:17] Just so you know, Fluburtur this is all at 1x physics warp [10:24:22] do you have the date of when you launched the mission? [10:24:45] I do, in another save. So I'll be able to get the total mission time [10:24:57] Or maybe I have it in a screenshot... [10:25:46] Eddi|zuHause: "the light gains momentum when it hits the air" - if the fibre is more dense, it reduced the momentum. that's what I read in it [10:27:34] No I don't have a screenshot of the date [10:41:20] I'm gonna crank this think up to full speed as soon as I get to the last section, if I have the fuel for it. I'm dying to know how fast it can go. [10:42:07] I've only used two engines on less than 1/3 throttle for the entire trip, but I needed six to be able to get it moving when fully fuelled [13:07:42] Time to look for a Mars transfer window for my great rocket :). [13:09:37] Merlin 1D++ + hypergolic AJ10. Before I used the RL10 (hydrolox) and any excess would evaporate. [13:10:22] Now I can use it for plane change and Mars orbit insertion. [13:10:28] watching some vid on moon rover buggy thing... didn't realize they wanted to try a mobile lab for a two week stay up there. [13:11:04] SpaceIl? [13:12:52] something called mo-lab.. [13:13:16] planned? cancelled? [13:14:05] cancelled.. it would have been 8,000lbs, needing a dedicated Saturn 5 to get it up there. [13:14:05] http://www.astronautix.com/m/molab.html [13:14:24] :) [13:14:27] SSSH [13:14:47] ahh, 1968 [13:15:09] super ssh? [13:15:19] starship superheavy [13:15:33] secure SSH, obviously [13:16:08] Hrm. How far beyond the Titan IIIE would that be? [13:16:11] they talk about it in this video, along with a static test to see if people could actually 'live' in it for 18 or so days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aDSYTMqyQw [13:16:11] YouTube - Lunar Rover [13:16:23] Action: UmbralRaptop also vaguely gestures at the 34D and IV [13:16:25] Molab starts at 7:20 mark if interested [13:19:12] If they used that during a lunar day they would have increased the chance of getting into a solar storm. [13:20:33] layer of water on the roof would have helped quite a bit [13:20:54] Water and piss :) [13:21:27] Or regolith [13:21:33] was a lot of unknowns at the time of the designing. main thing they talked about was not knowing what the surface was going to be like even. [13:25:35] aw... watching couple of old guys relive toying around with a model moon buggy they built from back in the day [13:35:37] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:55:29] What level is the average sea on Phobos? "ASL gravity"=0.00139 g, but GM/r2/9.81=0.00149 g. [13:57:59] Maybe they use average altitude, which is above the spherical body. [13:59:59] Ok, 118 TWR should be enough :). [14:00:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:39:50] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [14:39:50] 118 TWR.. with or without kerbals? [14:43:51] without [14:43:57] On Phobos [14:44:20] was thinking how many G's it would pull.. [14:44:28] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:44:38] 55.7 N * 4, 139 kg. [14:44:52] sorry guess not fully awake.. ugh [14:45:01] wasn't expecting to be up 4am [14:45:41] 0.16 g [14:45:53] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485427078964183070/550327679526633518/DSC_0781.JPG [14:46:01] ;wa energy of 1.8kg at 120kph [14:46:03] Fluburtur: kinetic energy->, mass->1.8 kg (kilograms), velocity->120 km/h (kilometers per hour)kinetic energy->1 kJ (kilojoule), = 0.2778 W h (watt hours), = 6.242×10^21 eV (electronvolts) [14:46:32] uh... [14:48:30] oh right TWR more to do with being close to a surface thing. [14:49:55] not really [14:50:03] Just the surface may be different. [14:50:22] g is independent of surface, though. [14:51:14] I was wondering more max accel vs TWR... [14:51:15] Weight only exists if you are attracted to something :). [14:52:48] 118 though.. head thought that was stupid crazy lot. [14:52:49] Well, there's weight in any accelerated system, I guess. Centrifuges, rockets ... [14:55:40] I guess i usually seen stuff like 2-4TWR... [15:04:58] On Earth. Or Kerbin. [15:05:11] Things are different on Gilly :). [15:08:45] did a lander probe thing for minmus... designed to do a landing, hop to another biome, then back to control craft. Not sure it can do the same thing on mun [15:12:15] Why would you? [15:17:38] why would I what? [15:30:30] ugh, stupid wireless... [15:30:36] sorry, why would I what? [15:40:34] wintergatan [16:00:50] JVFoxy: biome hop on Mun [16:02:10] With a science lab you can get enough science from Minmus to complete the tech tree. [16:02:24] From 3-4 biomes [16:02:26] haven't the lab yet [16:02:30] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGxh4oqr5Fk [16:02:30] ok [16:02:30] YouTube - Instrument Dummy Assembly - Marble Machine X#70 [16:03:03] JVFoxy: You could land at a triple biome junction. [16:03:22] also wanted to test/show you can control a probe from a ship when out of LOS of kerbin [16:03:39] Jeb can do that :). [16:03:42] It's a perfectly valid mission profile [16:04:01] back from flying the glider, I beat both of my records [16:04:06] 1km high and 4km out [16:05:07] That's awesome, Fluburtur [16:05:13] Definitely. I made missions after completing the tech tree. [16:05:16] Must be an amazing experience [16:05:48] video feed wasnt that great at 1km high because I wasnt far enough and signal polarisation was a bit of an issue [16:06:02] while flying away it was quite good, signal was horrible on the way home tho [16:06:10] so it did most of the way home on autopilot [16:06:56] I flew the final 1km while gliding manually at an average speed of 90kph [16:10:50] well... jeb + either another pilot or certain probe cores [16:11:20] And a relay antenna. [16:12:03] eh ya.. relay though I normally add a pair on anyways [16:13:20] I had a bit of head scratching when designing the lander probe that could pack into a service bay.. then found out was a bit more space for refueling tanks, batteries, relay and solar panels [16:13:32] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:17:01] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [16:17:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:33:50] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/550354845484187658/1km.jpg [16:34:24] where is the curve? :) [16:34:52] well this is a wide angle lens [16:34:54] down the small of the back [16:35:08] so there would be a curve if the horizon wasnt exactly in the center [16:35:54] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/550355384896847872/afazefa.jpg [16:36:28] was that taken from something you built [16:36:31] and piloted [16:36:41] yeah, the plane is a kit [16:36:52] sweet [16:37:17] smoke'n [16:40:22] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:10:40] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:11:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:22:41] Fluburtur, do you have an easy link for that challenge map? The one in your thread isn't loading for me [17:30:19] i DONT THINK i HAVE IT [17:30:55] Never mind, I just started working again [17:31:17] woops caps [17:32:17] cruise control for cool :) [17:32:25] also fortran :) [17:44:57] Fluburtur, I'm rounding the last continent between be and KSC [17:45:31] Just heading east around the peninsula now, then it's the little upside-down V and I land at KSC [17:46:59] how's fuel [17:56:23] 18k, looking very good [17:56:56] It took about 7k to get here from the northern ice cap [17:58:34] what would anyone do with a cruise control for fortran? [17:59:02] write awesome code? :) [17:59:16] oh wait, WRITE(*,*) CODE :) [18:02:19] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:04:51] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [20:04:51] Dang, I forgot to accept the Deimos/Phobos landing contracts. [20:05:38] Action: hoglahoo smacks darsie [20:05:51] thx :) [20:07:09] And the flyby contracts. [20:10:44] Action: hoglahoo smacks darsie once again [20:34:43] Action: Judge_Dedd smacks darsie, because why not. [20:41:58] ⁵ [20:52:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:37:29] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yISqCAnROh8 - High speed data transfer lol