[00:56:50] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [00:56:50] Intermittent reminder that you may be accidentally banned on the wiki due to my spambot fights. Please contact me if this is the case. [01:42:22] Hey guys. [01:42:30] k [01:42:41] Just wanted to ask/check is FAR and DRE still under development? [01:45:46] this mission sent me on a strange orbit [01:45:51] how do i get home ;_; [01:46:34] oh duh [01:46:35] just escape [02:13:20] is FAR being developed? [03:23:03] I think so? Ferram4 might have finally found a job, though. [04:15:27] He was hired by Earth to improve the aerodynamics model [04:43:53] https://newatlas.com/centauro-robot-disaster-relief/55627/ [04:48:10] im not impressed [04:48:23] legs with wheels. it is almost a tachikoma :) [04:49:54] not that part, but how slow and long it takes for the actions, in comparison to the Boston dynamics ones [04:50:28] dont tachikomas have 6 legs? [04:50:45] they should have more because they are spiders, but they have actually only gour [04:50:49] plus one machine gun? [04:51:30] ah alright, so long since i watched GITS [04:52:29] i want a tachikoma in ksp now :( [04:54:51] what, she was here? [04:55:36] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv0o_nUFTKw [04:55:36] YouTube - Mars seen by Hubble 2018 [04:57:04] ok [04:57:06] time to land minimus. [04:57:19] minmus [04:57:29] MINNIE MOUSE [04:57:34] you cant land minmus on kerbin because it is on rails [04:59:14] you can't push planets out of orbit? :p [04:59:21] not in ksp [04:59:26] booo [04:59:44] maybe with the mod that givees them proper orbits [05:02:14] why are they not proper already [05:02:18] i just watched The Expanse and earth blow up Deimos with a nuke so that video is Fake News [05:02:24] also, minmus seems very wee [05:02:31] compared to mun i guess [05:03:22] because of Einstein [05:03:29] lol.. good luck even pushing a small moon. [05:03:40] Scott did a video on it.. you'd need more mass than the moon itself [05:03:43] he made gravity too complicated [05:03:51] yes that was an old video [05:03:53] maybe with gilly [05:04:10] but ultimately they are on rails anyway [05:04:14] i remember that you cant realy do it with rockets [05:04:26] you would need more fuel that the moon has mass [05:04:27] or so [05:04:45] that=than [05:05:43] heh.. old because its only been a few years and he's put out so many videos..? [05:06:05] been a few years i think [05:06:37] I have to ask about the meaning of 'old' these days... mostly since, 'oh, you've had your phone a few years? Thats old'.. really..? [05:06:48] yes that is old [05:07:44] im not 13 so i have a sense of time :) [05:08:41] the ground you stand on is old... [05:08:54] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G01NoaTM46o [05:08:54] YouTube - What does it Take To Deorbit A Moon In Kerbal Space Program [05:08:56] 5 years [05:09:00] should i be landing on the lakes of minmus? [05:09:07] landing on the mountains seems trecharous [05:09:12] yes [05:09:25] I guess the fact that companies keep pushign you to buy the latest products all the time, doesn't really help matters [05:09:35] Minmus' flats are a godsend [05:09:42] most planets are filled with steep slopes everywhere [05:09:47] my phone is already older than 2 years [05:09:50] but Minmus has those delicious flats [05:09:55] easy mode [05:10:05] Action: JVFoxy only been through two models of flipphones since... ealry 2000s.. he's fixed them as needed.. has spares [05:10:28] probably i will need to replace the battery soon, but for that have to take it to some shop (built in). or i can just buy a new one next year [05:10:34] avoid the poles.. at least on mun... elevation changes get stupidly exagerated [05:10:38] my on is only one and a half and it is starting to get slower... i think android is rigged [05:10:47] on duna too [05:11:00] and of course there is the mohole [05:11:15] is it still there? [05:11:23] it has its own biome now [05:11:32] oh ok [05:11:33] so it is there permanently, part of the lore [05:11:42] true [05:11:45] originally was a terrain glitch [05:12:04] yeah i know, but never went there [05:12:31] heh something crazy happened to the tests again [05:13:25] wich tests? [05:14:01] interesting its only moho.. not any other planet/moon [05:14:21] the product. but as i am not going to do any work today it has to remain a mystery. it loks like some infrastructure problem [05:14:33] first time I came across 'moho' as a weird was back in the Total Annihilation game. [05:14:39] there is a peak on duna [05:14:42] weird->word [05:14:48] the moho mine [05:14:55] protect the moho mine at all cost [05:15:11] stil have it.. not played in a while since got new machine going. :( [05:15:15] just played through ta last week [05:15:37] but if your map is smaller than the screen it can easily crash [05:15:48] had to change the resolution from full to avoid that :) [05:16:19] okay [05:16:26] so i should go to the flats of minmus? [05:16:34] that is the easiest [05:16:42] they are exactly at 0 altitude and completely smooth [05:16:53] Naa... run full 5:4 at 1350x1080 stretched. [05:16:59] i see a rather nice spot [05:17:21] 2560x1600 is too big :) [05:17:48] you mean your monitor is too small. [05:17:58] https://i.imgur.com/lwhl7aY.jpg [05:18:02] that flat bit yeah? [05:18:02] no, tha maps are too small [05:18:16] yes any of that [05:18:25] excellent [05:18:28] let's go [05:18:34] if you land near the hills, you can get biome data from the slopes and highlands [05:18:40] I'd probably still play it on my older machine [05:18:42] with small hops or with eva [05:18:56] I never got around to installing the DVD drive on this new box [05:19:03] Althego: i'm not that adventurous [05:19:07] this is career mode too :P [05:19:11] no antenna, forgot [05:19:13] oops [05:19:14] at least take surface sample [05:19:17] hehe [05:19:24] The last time i needed to use a DVD drive... was to install command and conquer the first decade. [05:19:24] yeah [05:19:27] my craft is pretty big [05:19:33] i have the seismic sensor too [05:19:34] and that was like 10 years ago. [05:20:08] my lander is 19 t [05:20:10] O_O [05:20:36] I don't know if that's good or bad mischief. [05:20:41] clearly a hopper [05:21:05] remember there is tons of science on minmus, hop throuogh all of the biomes for best result [05:21:13] i mean... it certainly could be an ore container. [05:21:41] I have a game a friend gave me on DVD... held on to it just in case... machien built, forgot DVD... eventually got one, just never stuck it in... ya sorry lazy somewhat. >.< [05:21:47] https://i.imgur.com/IjGFlfu.jpg [05:21:51] bit large eh [05:22:19] i would have taken only a scientist so that there is more delta v for hoppin g:) [05:23:22] yep... just take a scientist in a single man pod... then use an advanced probe core if you need SAS capability. [05:24:21] and that kinda looks like mine, lol. https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/719792474331682492/99852401018574767690DE50E24CD0AC32095CAB/ [05:24:37] reading up on this surface science pack.. need at least eng and sci guy to put things together, make it of use... pilot optional since core could probably help [05:25:06] your kerbal looks like he ate too much sugar [05:25:09] isn't the lander can 2 crew? [05:25:36] the bigger one [05:25:50] this is the command pod Mk1-3 [05:25:54] 3-man ship [05:26:15] oh wow... the "inline image" option from this irc client does work [05:26:26] i know what the 3 man capsule is. but you don't really need a pilot due to the previously mentioned probe cores. [05:26:51] my current lander only has "Spark" and "Twitch" engines [05:26:57] takes a while to get anything done [05:27:05] nice little ship [05:27:31] well... all you need is enough dV on launch to get home, or to the reentry vehicle. [05:27:53] i made it :-D [05:28:06] KrazyKrl: yeah thats what the 4 twitch engines are for [05:28:22] they are surprisingly strong for their size [05:28:38] they have among the best dV of any engine iirc. [05:29:29] but they are nowhere as op as they used to be in the old days [05:29:29] And then you have those things where you go "what have I done?" https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/719791555825337090/0151BE422A5543C4F2BFFF9854584934EC44C4B0/ [05:29:57] looks like a science plane thing [05:31:00] why i needed like 6 of each experiment, i have no idea. [05:31:16] terrier does good, poodle is best [05:31:33] though.. twitch I find comes out a little better in some cases [05:31:41] ... or spark.. [05:32:20] terrier is the 404? [05:32:22] the non radial version is always better [05:32:36] 909 [05:32:42] right [05:32:50] 404 is the http error code :) [05:32:53] lol 404 is "no engine found" [05:32:57] yeah [05:33:25] i think i diodnt played much after they startet naming the engines [05:33:54] looks like green cheese out here [05:33:56] https://i.imgur.com/ihEZBcY.jpg [05:34:38] buzz kerman's mouth is simply agape in awe [05:34:47] supposedly it is mint icecream [05:34:59] as the science texts say [05:35:09] i want mint icecream :( [05:35:16] And then you have Jeb: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/717539469034138788/381EEB707F31C51667B933C87212C56D9DE4C725/ [05:35:36] lol [05:35:41] lol [05:35:51] retirement pod [05:35:57] i don't get it [05:35:59] coffin? [05:36:18] Jeb "Get off my plane" Kerman [05:40:29] ... ok now I have to find a pic of jeb.. when I did my first mun landing with hi.. [05:47:19] here we go... [05:47:21] https://imgur.com/a/JpH6qVv [05:47:41] hehe [05:47:51] I guess I used a booster to drop my descent down so much, the shroud landed safely. [05:47:57] this was back... [05:48:13] late june 2014 [05:48:39] KSP V0.23.5 [05:49:26] Jeb-in-the-Box [05:49:32] i am doing what you guys suggested [05:49:34] hopping around [05:49:42] i have enough fuel this time and the gravity is so small.. [05:51:17] well.. guess jeb hide-and-seek in a can... no lid [05:55:18] i found midlands on minmus which are 3.2km up ... where the heck are highlands [05:58:27] https://i.imgur.com/7TyX3X3.png [05:58:58] looks like most of them closer to the poles, spotty other places [05:59:08] idk if i'll make it this trip :v [05:59:18] i have like 400 science already, so that's okay.. [05:59:27] maybe more like 600 idk [05:59:36] don't get too ambitious... [06:00:17] maybe even more [06:00:22] let's land and find out :-D [06:02:57] just imagine, "sir.. why are all our missions rescue missions?" [06:03:04] hehe [06:06:10] in my defense, "Well.. I had to assign someone to go get all them crew, those non-name companies keep stranding out there. I'd get Jeb to do it but he thinks rescue missions are silly.. or something" [06:09:01] speaking of rescue contracts... [06:09:34] when you go out and rescue a kerbal on a contract, the pod, usually doesn't have a flag right? [06:12:40] never seen a flag [06:13:09] all mine have just been command pods [06:13:13] or crew cabins.. [06:13:22] wow [06:13:30] 1789 science! [06:14:06] kay.. just sometimes I wonder if its another company stranding their kerbals.. or they doing it themselves.. [06:14:31] oh no.. independent self controlling kerbals launching themselves into space [06:27:23] Action: Tortoise767 wishes automatic account deletion due to inactivity didn't exist [07:01:24] wat, [07:01:56] unless you paid money for a permanent slot on a server someplace, there must always be a purge. [07:06:02] 'THE Purge!' [07:06:50] it's like fight club, but instead of fists, it's nothing... and instead of soap, it's also nothing. [07:07:34] whats worse.. space or digital oblivion? [07:08:08] well, one is in tamriel; and the other would be sweet! [07:09:18] ok guess I lost things.. I never quite got into elderscrolls /that/ much [07:13:21] I was thinking more purge system on spacecraft vs purge system on computer server data base [07:29:13] so.. this rescue mission is at 180 degrees from my orbit around minmus [07:29:24] think i can flip my ship around? [07:30:11] guess im not going *that* fast [07:30:12] lets try [07:32:51] hah scott an hour ago [07:41:09] ok [07:41:13] reverse successful [07:41:29] now, do i try landing again on minmus or just go home with my two rescued people.. [07:42:09] depends on fuel [07:42:24] more minmus landings, more science [07:42:27] a fair bit [07:42:38] my landing kegs are nearly full [07:43:04] and the tank directly under the command pod is full, not even used yet [07:43:13] go for it [07:43:31] only took me a tiny bit of fuel for two rescues which had opposite orbits, i'm surprised [07:43:55] i think minmus is easier than mun :) [07:44:36] it is [07:44:39] and better [07:44:42] more science [07:44:53] word [07:44:53] the mun has more biomes [07:44:59] last trip got me 1800 science :) [07:45:03] but you have top foight hard to get them [07:45:10] on minmus you can just milk it forever [07:45:24] basically you can get the whole tech tree [07:45:24] forever? [07:45:44] maybe not in hard mode, then a few nodes will be unfilled on the highest level [07:54:33] my navball is wrong :( [07:55:47] or in the wrong mode [07:56:01] it's rocket mode [07:56:10] no such mode [07:56:19] sorry [07:56:21] staging mode [07:56:43] that is not the navball mode [07:56:48] it says i'm in orbit moving at 10.0 m/s and my prograde and retrograde are inverted [07:57:03] where is mode shown? [07:57:27] it is probably the control from here menu what you want [07:57:35] so if you have a probe core or docking port or such [07:57:40] you can be useing the wrong one [07:57:51] just a command pod [07:57:56] i'm landed on the surface o_O [07:57:56] or in orbit mode while you are near the surface [07:58:09] if you click the navball now, does the speed change? [07:58:14] (it should) [07:58:26] ooh [07:58:32] i didn't know you could click the words [07:58:34] in surface mode it is relative to the surface [07:58:42] in orbit mode it is relative to the center of the planet [07:58:44] now it shows surface 0.0m/s [07:58:49] makes more sense xD [07:59:08] you can use this to see the surface speed on the launchpad for example [07:59:15] normally it transitions automatically [07:59:17] but sometimes not [07:59:26] or you want to switch back to surface mode for contracts [07:59:34] (fly x speed, it is always surface speed) [08:00:22] hehe https://i.redd.it/risgqhdyl4c11.png [08:00:53] oh wait a sec we have 1.4.5 [08:00:58] Action: mischief squints [08:01:01] does that actually work [08:01:07] https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/177076-kerbal-space-program-145-and-making-history-14-is-live/ [08:01:54] https://i.redd.it/yk0516ggn0c11.jpg [08:02:41] obviously it happened around midnight [08:02:45] i expected it next week [08:19:25] not much of a re�ease [09:18:37] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:23:52] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8dEwUD6fXs [09:23:52] YouTube - VSS Unity | Third Rocket Powered Flight [09:24:02] maybe something happens over there too [09:24:14] they started before everybody else, and they are only a runner up [09:24:25] so kerbian design [09:24:33] 3 planes bolted together ;) [09:27:12] some kind of ssto? [09:27:16] isnt it kerbal rather than kerbian [09:27:21] or space plane [09:27:22] no orbit [09:27:24] just suborbital [09:27:41] possibly [09:29:48] this mission just says 'reocver a module without damaging it too much' [09:29:54] what is too much and how do i do that :v [09:30:18] there is no partial damage in stock [09:30:32] damhing too much means poof I guess [09:30:39] except maybe landing legs and wheels [09:31:06] the module is purported to weight 2.5t [09:31:14] but the parts are usually cabins, tanks, engines [09:31:25] how the heck will i get some random 2.5t thing back to kerbin without it blowing up while deorbiting [09:31:33] once i had to recover an empty shuttle solid booster from a crater on the mun [09:31:35] that was hard [09:31:52] mischief: any dock on it? [09:32:01] idk, didn't accept mission yet [09:32:03] if it has, dock something with LOT of paracles on it [09:32:14] cant spell that word [09:32:21] you need the claw, and some serious delta v reserve [09:32:25] and also parachutes [09:32:30] ah yes the claw [09:32:43] but you get these contracts only after you have the claw [09:32:50] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-Esh4W3dfI [09:32:51] YouTube - Toy Story - The Claw [09:33:08] i guess i just need to have a lot of fuel left for retrograde burn when deorbiting [09:33:13] so i don't burn up.. [09:33:54] also reentry burn to not burn up [09:34:09] thats what i mean :P [09:37:01] Cargo plane :) [09:37:15] here is one with text for rolf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oowYF3QIO3c [09:37:16] YouTube - 'Beautiful Black Sky' - Virgin Galactic's VSS Unity Flies Higher Than Ever [09:37:18] mostly correct [09:37:35] amazing view not amazing for [09:37:37] cool :) [09:37:52] it is from the pilots [09:38:27] I wouldnt know if I would accept if somehow magucally they invite me to ride in one [09:38:50] as with everything wait 10 years when it becomes cheap [09:39:08] although i waited far more than that and they still didnt start business [09:41:16] however good these automatic subtitling algorithms are, they still fail really badly. even in a relatively clear english that has no strange accent [09:41:38] consider 3 years ago [09:41:43] it was much much worse [09:41:51] wouldnt be able to even tell what topic was about [09:41:57] lol [09:42:07] nowdays its pretty amazing, so good I can figure glitch words by context [09:46:54] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:47:20] ready aplayer one? :) [09:47:32] lol [09:47:34] Ready for what? [09:47:50] Action: APlayer didn't get the joke :-( [09:47:59] i dont know, neither read the book or watched the movie [09:48:04] nor [09:48:20] if there is nor in the english language, why is there no nand? :) [09:48:55] this was the jok https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1677720/ [09:49:15] movie was fun! [09:50:18] havent read book, has it but in a large queue [09:50:31] hwhw [09:50:31] currently reading Hunted Earth omnibus [09:51:02] i know a guy who has a a lot of books in his queue. he stacks them on top of each other, forming an 1.5 m tower [09:51:09] new ones go to the bottom [09:51:29] heh mines at few hundreds [09:51:38] thankfully they all stack into zero height [09:53:04] I think book queue, if not refilled, will last around 300 days [09:53:10] or somewhat less than full year [09:53:46] reading around 300 page a day so yeah I read books very fast [10:06:08] wanna know something sad? [10:06:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:06:21] futuristic movie 2001 should have happened 17 years ago [10:06:46] where is our long spceship drat [10:07:04] longship is long [10:07:17] its perfect size for long cats [10:08:58] ummmmm [10:09:11] apparently google has specific code for "long cats" [10:09:14] google it [10:16:36] doesnt really look like that [10:17:04] you dont get "18 inches" and subtitle of "without tail"? [10:17:16] no [10:17:36] gives me result about how long cats live [10:17:58] and longcat picture from know your meme [10:18:02] quite realistic result [10:18:23] weird. lol [10:19:59] did you google long cat or long cats? [10:23:06] the anti-long cat https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/7/74/Short_cat2.jpg [10:25:57] no use, doesnt happen with any of those [10:26:03] weird [10:27:21] https://twitter.com/SmashRiot/status/1022518849848180736 [10:27:22] Unity has done it again. One of our artists left Unity idling over night and got this very personal email from Uni& https://t.co/Pk2bgjAAp7 [10:27:43] even i would leave an editor open just to get a personal email from alejandra :) [10:28:07] leave it long enough and they will finish project for you [10:28:30] i would probably sooner write my own engine than to learn an existing one [10:32:07] I would live with stats collection than make my own engine beyond a 2d game, 3d maths melts my brain most times [10:43:22] heh a friend of mine is in the country again. and just today there is going to be an unusually long lunar eclipse [10:44:37] have to convince people to walk up the hill so that we can see it [11:13:38] the 1.25m shell can't hold a relay scanner :( [13:24:15] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:36:09] there was no wintergatan video this week. also fluburtur is missing [13:53:23] France must have disappeared [13:53:32] That's the only plausible explanation [13:54:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:03:48] Althego: the Romans decided to reclaim Gaul [14:04:12] at least they bring peace :) [14:07:59] Desert Romana [14:44:02] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:53:50] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:01:09] Romanian desert.. or dessert? [16:02:55] 1.4.5? [16:03:49] ... actually, I was going to ask. Would it be worth doing a building aircraft tutorial video for KSP? [16:06:39] of course.. it be nice if I could get a proper mic for my pc.. :\ [16:12:31] looks like 1.4.5 is actually out now [16:13:10] they going to keep 1.4.4 available till mod builders are able to migrate to the new version? [16:18:29] ok so... 1.4.4 replaced with 1.4.5... [16:18:35] what issues did 1.4.5 have? [16:18:47] er.. sorry what issues did 1.4.4 have that they removed it completely? [16:20:02] looks like I missed out on 1.4.4, sigh oh well [16:23:07] guess people still in morning mode huh? [16:28:56] Various bug fixes. [16:29:14] guess I just worry, might miss on something [16:29:30] I know a lot of mod developers haven't even caught up to 1.4.4 yet [16:34:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:55:08] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dozeman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:02:01]