[00:08:11] heh, my scientist that has gone to duna only has 'fly-by kerbin' and 'fly-by the sun' [00:27:05] I just built a new computer [00:27:09] KSP is running way better :) [00:31:24] hatrix, what are your specs? [00:31:47] Ryzen 7 3700x and a RX 5700 XT [00:31:54] nice! [00:32:42] coming from an Athlon and a GTS it's a upgrade :p [00:32:52] oh my [00:33:58] even with proton games run pretty smoothly [00:34:50] I was just about to ask about your experience with the amd drivers. but apparently the linux ones are actually good these days [00:35:20] do you of any way to test them? [00:35:42] my GTS needed the legacy drivers of nvidia so I'm not sure they were the best [00:35:55] and a kernel bug made me switch back to nouveau [00:37:08] my last experience with the amd linux drivers was with a HD 6870. the opensource ones didn't support hardware acceleration of video at that point [00:37:48] Crysis 2 runs fine, QUBE2 also [00:38:00] I don't have any recent game though [00:38:25] thats alright. they're all crap these days :P [00:38:38] does EVE work on 1.9? [00:39:10] or should I use Astronomer's Visual Pack? [00:39:23] idk, I'm still running 1.8 [00:42:38] now that I can run KSP decently I want it to be beautiful :) [01:22:14] graphcis difference: https://imgur.com/a/2oeeVYa [01:22:14] https://i.imgur.com/ZxRXDyn.png [03:26:05] scott https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIXsMv1jkzY [03:26:05] YouTube - Virgin's Orbit's Failed Rocket Launch & The History Of Air Lauched Rockets To Orbit [03:33:25] "Virgin's Orbit's" doesn't sound like proper grammar [03:34:44] virgin has an orbit, and that orbit has a failed rocket launch? [03:35:03] the first s shouldnt be there [03:35:10] the company name is virgin orbit [03:35:24] similar to virgin galactic [03:36:19] wasn't there a computer game company like in the 80s or 90s? [03:37:03] i am not sure, but they should be with the SpaceShipTwo [03:39:39] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Interactive [03:39:48] same logo :) [03:40:06] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Group [03:44:45] https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/on-the-moon-astronaut-pee-will-be-a-hot-commodity/ [03:44:46] hehehe [03:45:42] isn't water recycling already a thing on space stations? [03:46:00] i dont think they need the water from the pee [03:46:11] so the water is still reclaimable [04:00:32] the "we make concrete polymers" stuff still needs loads of water [04:01:16] and probably isn't available in large enough quantities [06:03:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:01:11] Wow, only 13:30 hours to launch [07:02:51] Hoomans space program [07:03:55] Muad'Dib [07:04:19] why? [07:05:21] KSP should have sandworms on Duna [07:12:07] and has water recycling [07:35:32] And, of course, spice mixed with the surface samples [08:47:28] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:03:26] anyone managed to install BeyondHome? [10:03:31] I got this structure http://paste.awesom.eu/UN9T [10:03:51] when I launch KSP it tells me the folder is not in the right place, and it can't detect kopernicus/module manager [10:04:03] but I still got things loaded in KSP [10:10:56] the KSC is on Rhode so I guess it's working [10:17:08] i don't believe [11:08:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:15:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:22:54] My model aircraft crashed today due to wind and was damaged. [14:25:08] that sucks [14:30:36] I may have been leeward of a building. [14:30:44] I lack experience. [14:31:05] I think it can be repaired. [14:36:30] wer have the technology! [14:39:22] I need to see which glue I can use. [14:41:04] What type of plane is it? EPP? [14:55:54] hatrix: what are those changelog and readme belong to? [15:08:10] BeyondHome kubi [15:08:24] different angle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn3Kax3mExc [15:08:24] YouTube - LIVE only 3 miles away from SpaceX and NASA launching humans to space for the first time! [15:10:28] Oh, wow, they're going to sit already 3 hours in the spacecraft before launch? [15:10:37] Also in 45 minutes we know if they're going to launch or not [15:16:23] Well, no [15:16:45] We'll know if they're going to bother *trying* to launch [15:20:37] 45 minutes eh? [15:21:15] supposedly that go or no-go is coming from spacex [15:21:45] although this is a nasa-spacex common operation, more so than the others [15:22:26] is that music coming from tim? [15:22:34] does he have the rights for that? [15:28:03] probably, "available everwhere" [15:28:07] +y [15:28:23] (top of the screen) [15:48:07] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:17:34] hello everyone [16:17:42] how are you all [16:19:11] a nervous wreck, as per usual [16:19:19] how are you [16:21:14] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:23:33] doing well thanks [16:37:49] Woo. Less than 4 hours to go [16:39:14] Mat2ch: This model: https://www.flaechenflieger.at/Fotos/e-segler_arcus/e-segler_arcus.htm [16:39:23] That's not me, btw. [16:49:20] darsie: UHU Por [16:49:38] Mat2ch: Doesn't say if it's EPP or EPO. Manual asks for Sekundenkleber robbe Speed Typ 2 und zugehoerigen Aktivator. [16:49:55] You can fix it with superglue, but UHU Por gives you a flexibel glue joint [16:50:02] thx [16:52:12] And if you have any questions about it, Fluburtur got my stash a few years ago ;) [16:55:45] https://twitter.com/JimBridenstine/status/1265679800997490689 [16:55:45] <✔JimBridenstine> We are go for launch! @SpaceX and @NASA will continue monitoring liftoff and downrange weather as we step into the… https://t.co/FusYlff055 [17:02:33] KSP just crashed my GPU [17:04:27] http://paste.awesom.eu/qSTN [17:12:36] looks more like a driver issue, though https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201957 [17:13:53] ah, the fancy [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring gfx_0.0.0 timeout [17:14:00] hatrix: what kernel version? [17:14:41] I don't fancy the look of those space suits [17:14:54] 5.6.14 [17:15:10] quite new [17:15:11] could be some overheating issue, I'll check later [17:22:08] packbart: #201957 should be fixed with 5.5. But there may other bugs appear which do similar things [17:22:36] I debugged that one. And it was harsh and I didn't come to a conclusion. I guess some fencing was missing or so [17:22:51] but it was gone with 5.5 [17:23:06] but recently I see a few new ones pop up, so it might be back [17:23:21] Breaking gpu drivers is easy apparently. [17:23:27] ah, ok. great. I just read the "I still see them on 5.6.13" in the last comment and concluded that it would still be an open issue [17:24:27] well, the real issue caused the whole gpu to freeze and then the kernel shortly after. [17:24:29] I have seen GPU bus exceptions with the nvidia 1030 in this computer, too. kills compiz but is recoverable [17:24:55] So if you get a good kernel log message it has to be something different ;) [17:25:33] also reporting amd gpu driver bugs at bugzilla.kernel.org is the wrong place. The devs are only looking at the freedesktop.org bugtracker ;) [17:26:56] no, wrong again, it's in the gitlab tracker now... [17:27:02] *their [17:27:12] and Windows already threw a "WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR" on me once, on my shiny new gaming toy. so it's not just Linux, anyway [17:28:03] hehe [17:34:31] Drivers are hard, especially with todays gpus. They're very complex things and you can run into a race-condition at any time... [17:54:06] just as tim says those clouds really dont look good [17:55:42] hehe you were talking about drivers, just got a notification for a new driver [18:04:06] so much space inside that capsule [18:14:22] yes, they can keep 1.5 m distance, if they want to :D [18:14:51] lol [18:14:54] Also, Wintergatan. When will we get an update on the machine? I have no idea... [18:19:20] why is he doing that [18:19:46] random stuff [18:21:14] why does anyone do anything? [18:26:46] Zoom... [18:26:51] soon [18:35:12] Action: darsie 's KSP crew dragon replica http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot291.png [18:37:48] too pointy [18:38:35] I could use a fairing. [18:39:38] certainly a departure from how things were in the past with shuttle and other stuff. Guess Soyuz only thing still old-school.. somewhat [18:40:02] upgraded 2om... 2 years ago? [18:40:14] so somewhat oldschool [18:41:30] they did get lcd screens.. mind you glass cockpits been a thing for a while, mostly in airplanes [18:41:40] no, 4 yras ago [18:41:57] touchscreens though... eh, hope those things stay 100% reliable [18:42:09] there are buttons for emergency use [18:42:17] but probably only for a dweq fuynctions [18:42:37] few [18:42:43] Better? http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot292.png [18:43:28] i would use the bigger docking port and the round nosecone thing [18:43:33] but somewhat better [18:43:53] I think I only have junior an pico ports on my space station. [18:44:23] glasscockpits became a standard thing in commercial airlines from 2002.. not sure they use touchscreens.. other than in some private aircraft [18:44:38] normally those are not touchscreens [18:44:48] there are side buttons on the mfdsa [18:44:50] mfds [18:45:28] yup [18:45:30] but those are not reallt imput devices,m you can select some views, so there is no reason [18:46:07] and the cdu/fms has complete keyboard and menus, so no need for touchscreens there either [18:46:10] side buttons actually does things, most data input is done by control panel down on the center console... [18:46:38] noticing on dragon, buttons on the arm rests? [18:46:57] for the in-flight entertainment system [18:47:14] hehe [18:47:17] no need for that [18:47:21] just look out the window :) [18:47:50] even astronauts never get bored watching earth [18:48:12] .oO( "Range No-Go") [18:48:18] thereis rain [18:48:30] ugh.. road trip with friend, he kept saying, 'may as well get some rest, it'll be a boring drive'. Road trip? Boring? Never! [18:48:43] but there is like 1.5 hours remaining. (is that even a plural? net even 2) [18:49:02] more than 1 hour... its good [18:50:08] as for docking port on nose tip in KSP... I usually stuck docking port off side, then centered it so top node still free for parachute. Then just stuck port above chute.. but thats just me [18:51:56] i just hide the parachute under the docking port or inside the capsule [18:52:09] now there is a part that can house such things, but doesnt look good [18:52:14] a conical service bauy thing [18:52:16] with the Mk1-3, I stick a 0.625m-decoupler and fairing on top, parachutes to the sides [18:53:36] lol... I do fairing and nose con cap on the port itself.. blow fairing, de-couple once in space.. [18:53:42] *cone [18:54:09] yes, you can use the docking port as a decoupler [18:54:18] ut was not always so [18:54:45] yeah, but then I have to click on it to un-stage it. I use both methods, depending on mun phase [18:54:45] Althego: Not sure if the aerodynamics is ok with that, but it looks more like Dragon now: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot293.png [18:55:04] lot nicer [18:55:09] dragony [18:55:19] I put the nosecone on the junior port and lowered it. [18:55:23] although the capsule is made in the looks of apollo [18:55:30] you can set the docking port to be staged. Then remove the staging feature later while on flight [18:56:43] yeah, but a decoupler is small and I don't have to right-click on the docking port later. it's a matter of laziness, I guess ;) [18:56:54] hoping in next little bit, I can finally get the DLC, have a little fun with the Gemini styled stuff [18:56:59] also, it gives an offset to build the fairing [18:57:13] righy liock the focking port? why? [18:57:29] (there is some food between the keyboard and me) [18:57:33] so it would disappear from the stage bar on the left [18:57:41] i dont care about that :) [18:58:37] you can either stage it manually using the part GUI in flight.. or set it to stage at any point, then turn the staging off after. Just matter of preferences [18:58:38] and putting a 1.25m directly on a part of the same size doesn't quite work for me, draping the fairing over the part [18:58:58] so I use a small decoupler as spacer, too. ymmv, as always [18:59:35] when I use fairings, I like to ditch the part that creates it whenever possible after I blow them off. [19:00:14] there'd been times I use those procedural fairings as longer nose cones and wanted to keep them the whole flight [19:03:09] i use them for airplane nosecones [19:03:15] and hide the electronics inside them [19:03:30] battery, antenna, probe core, even a small amount of fuel and duel cell [19:05:00] drone airplane? Heh.. I normally just went battery only if that [19:05:25] no, not really, usually there is cockpit too [19:05:41] I like to make capsule-shaped tanks and create my own interstages with the procedural interstage. [19:07:15] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:08:28] rockomax tank, terrier engine... don't let it shroud, use fairing to close the gap.. [19:18:55] Why does AF1 need to fly by a private venture test launch? [19:19:49] Shatner! [19:19:54] yes is saw that [19:20:01] .. his voice though.. oof [19:20:10] i dont get transit's sentence [19:20:22] He’s a tad bloated. Like windows ME. [19:20:29] lol..comments about Bill [19:21:01] Transit, Trump is present to watch the launch. [19:21:16] 570k viewser on the SpaceX stream alone. And the launch isn't even near [19:21:22] lol, booted him right out of the channel [19:21:47] ya saw the plane.. at first I thought he was going to loiter in the air till the launch.. lol, oops [19:21:52] NASA has 730k [19:22:02] so more than one mio people are watching [19:22:04] that's huge [19:22:13] ya.. nasa chat just going completely nuts [19:22:27] hehe i just though of a president ansible module. name: trump state: present [19:22:31] scrolling by so fast [19:23:15] yes, i like the worm logo better too [19:23:24] even though i dislike the name for both [19:24:29] oh that worm logo.. what was the other again? [19:24:35] meatball [19:24:57] one of the coolest organizations on earth having the klamest logo names ever [19:24:59] ... and why is it called the 'meatball'? [19:25:13] how should i know [19:25:13] because it looks like a meatball [19:25:14] Worm is more aesthetic, meatball has more meaning [19:25:31] ok, make the wormball than :) [19:25:38] who would want to eat that, bleh [19:25:51] https://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/5-8/features/symbols-of-nasa.html [19:25:54] lol... someone did meatball with worm letters as logo [19:26:30] https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2422/1433/products/mugs-nasa-meatball-logo-black-type-1.jpg?v=1583294592 [19:26:47] The meatball has a starfield, a stylized orbiting spacecraft, and the swoosh is based on a hypersonic airfoil [19:27:10] (Yes, a swoosh. Same name as that one used by a shoe company) [19:27:33] Action: darsie 's KSP Dragon replica: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot293.png http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot294.png http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot296.png http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot297.png [19:28:33] Aerodynamics were suboptimal, but I made it. [19:29:37] maybe the sky is getting better [19:30:35] Guess I prefer the worm logo more.. its simple.. [19:31:25] Fair [19:32:21] also sorta grew up with it.. meatball could have its place too, maybe more for ground facilities, where things can be more showy [19:32:47] yes just as jim whateverstein said, he grew up with the worm [19:33:22] if i think of nasa i think of the worm, and eve n though it is simple, it has character [19:33:56] i sure hope hey can launch [19:34:05] becaise o cant afford to be up that late all the time [19:35:42] imo, the meatball looks good uniforms, the worm on rockets [19:35:45] Who cares. He’s not related to the project at all. [19:35:47] +on [19:36:07] just head of the nasa, not related :) [19:36:13] Nope. [19:36:17] He’s not. [19:41:17] What is this “launch America” nonsense? [19:41:34] maybe they're firing the continent into orbit [19:41:35] usa didnt have a domestinc manned launch for 9 years [19:43:25] At least with Shuttle, Canada had a hand in helping with things.. well a whole arm or two in fact. [19:45:05] hehe at least the yare not doing that callout liek ula [19:45:38] somehow most of the time spacex gets this guy to narrate their launches [19:46:13] hehe even mentioned different from the old age [19:46:22] but ula is stuck in the old age [19:46:33] told friend was watching the nasa stream.. they were 'why not spacex..?' [19:47:34] is there a spacex stream now? [19:48:04] Althego, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjb9FdVdX5I [19:48:05] YouTube - Crew Demo-2 [19:48:10] oh hey kmath [19:48:21] ah yes just founjd it [19:48:32] heh.. that trough in front of the screens turned into a fidget toy for the pilots [19:49:27] so if that one cloud can get out of the way it can go [19:49:43] I wonder how reliable touchscreen are compared to buttons [19:49:54] we just dont know it yet [19:50:06] probably lot less flew to space [19:51:03] the nasa stream seems to be lot older [19:51:07] like 15 seconds or so [19:52:01] hehe more like 30 [19:52:36] sky is still getting better. i really want them to succeed [19:52:51] lol... its its not 'now' its too old. Patience grasshopper [19:53:26] if i want to watch something live [19:53:29] I just hope my connection doesn't flake out on me [19:53:33] i dont watch a half a minute old stream [19:53:44] even a 5 seconds is too old [19:53:55] otherwuse i could just watch this tomorrow with 2x speed [19:54:02] skipping right to the launch [19:54:17] you want live.. you better off being there watching it directly. stream regardless going to have some delay [19:54:24] yes [19:54:34] but this is the shortest delay i can realistically have [19:54:41] "Dragon" undocked, deorbited and splashed down near the KSC. [19:54:56] woo launch stuff [19:54:58] Instant Cassettes! [19:54:59] call itt drakon :) [19:55:06] :) [19:55:09] new product comes out, kid wants it yesterday. :\ [19:55:28] lol tim's stream has fast scrolling chat [19:55:38] It also replaced a scientist who stayed on the space station for years if not decades with another. [19:56:17] not sure but can you still downlink NASA TV direct from Satellite via dish? [19:56:32] probably [19:56:52] got a box but having issues with setup.. guh [19:57:20] it adds another satellite link. internet cables are faster [19:57:43] they used to have nasa tv on local cable but it was pulled. Only reason it was even on was cuz they had some Canadian stuff on it. [19:58:17] in order to have broadcasting up here, has to have majority of Canadian content. [19:59:23] Action: darsie wanted to rotate the Dragon view in youtube with RMB :). [19:59:30] hehe [19:59:41] cable tv is often fastest, depending on how they get their uplink. noticeable in the neighbor cheering lag with popular sports events [19:59:48] ship spinning is the most important aspect of any spaceship game [19:59:57] i am still mad for elite they didnt add that feature [20:00:05] you can break the model,, just don't brake the actual ship [20:00:24] cable TV owners see the goal first, then sat receivers, with internet viewers strewn all over the place [20:01:25] we watched the hockey game .. or tried to back when olympics was here in town. bar across the street would cheer/boo. us flagers had a laptop, had to wait up to half a minute on stream to find tou what happened [20:01:43] granted.. bad connection but eh.. this was 2010 [20:02:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:02:11] hehe [20:03:21] then we groaned whan heard it went into overtime [20:03:33] live-live streaming *is* hard, though. even more so if you don't supply the receiver and expect to work on any display thing [20:05:01] a BBC team gave a talk about their olympic streaming setup at a conference. they had to settle for acceptably-live, too [20:07:34] I remember people trackside of races, would either build or buy radios to listen into chatter between cars and pitcrew.. [20:10:37] go to space? frig ya! [20:11:06] still about 3 minutes for weather [20:11:24] and the hydraulics thingie at -8 [20:11:27] the poll thing.. would you go to space? [20:11:36] at least they mentioned lightining energy or whatever instead of the sky, so there is no more issue with the clooud [20:11:55] lightning energy disipation [20:12:13] JVFoxy: absolutely [20:12:21] last thing we need is another Apollo 12 launch strike [20:12:28] hehe [20:12:47] not sure those screens would survive... zap boom [20:12:50] the issue is, modern materials are composites, they dont like lightning, old metals worked better [20:13:20] another stream (Scott): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIHTtvueqHk [20:13:20] YouTube - Coverage of NASA & SpaceX's Launch with Reds Rhetoric & Astronomy Live Providing Tracking Cameras [20:13:32] i miss the spacex technical broadcasts [20:13:35] no but can always in-bed a metal mesh inside like a shell to put push that energy around [20:13:58] trying to contain lightning is a fools game though [20:14:10] not contain.. direct [20:14:18] hehe [20:14:25] it wants to go shortest path down to ground [20:14:29] as he mentioned the 30 minutes waiting time is not making this possible [20:15:40] next is on saturday? lot better. even one hour earlier [20:16:06] ya.. 30th from what I've seen [20:17:25] scrub :( [20:17:28] ;'( [20:17:37] :( [20:17:51] But better than not going to space because of a failure [20:18:04] hehe scrub practive [20:18:20] 3 day delay [20:19:06] it was actually all just filming for a scifi flick musk is making [20:20:32] soooo... can't they just drag a long grounding cable to above the clouds? ;> [20:20:58] with the rocket :) [20:22:31] planes get hit by lightning all. the. time. (actually, not that often, I've read. and systems do fail and the hull needs some maintenance afterwards) [20:23:13] pilots reckon on one hit a year each I think? [20:23:52] they also tend not to deliberately fly into thunderstorms... [20:26:00] because of other reasons [20:26:17] hail damage, water amount that is tolerated by the engines, etc [20:26:35] also passanger comfort [20:30:30] From what they were saying, lightning strike in midair isn't so much a concern, as lightning while fueled on the ground. [20:30:53] As they said on stream that higher lightning clouds would just make for an interesting ride. [21:43:55] he already forgot their names... ;) [22:33:39] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net