[00:04:49] Will the new update for consoles include a debugger? [00:08:59] Mathuin: I would define Constants at the top of the library [00:09:34] Which constants? [00:09:44] 9.80665 [00:10:02] Eh, only used once and for one documented purpose, I'm fine. [00:10:19] yes, but it is re-usable :D [00:13:58] Now I'm curious where you'd use it. [00:16:15] or you could use the gravity constant of Kerbin, I guess [00:25:10] Mathuin: but yeah, so far I found nothing obvious [00:25:53] Keen. My biggest worries right now is that the code is non-optimal, that it's inefficient for some reason that is obvious to more experienced folks. [00:26:15] "Oh, you don't have to do it that way, there's support for an easier way." "Your WHEN THEN is unnecessarily hard working." etc [00:32:47] well, you have a different approach, so I'm trying to understand if it's more sane then what I'm trying to do [00:32:48] There's a neat mod that changes day to night in the VAB. I would rather it set based on the in-game time than when I hit 'p' especially when that happens while I save. [00:33:06] [different approach] If something needs commenting, let me know. [00:33:51] you follow the AP, I tried to guesstimate loses and minimize them [00:35:44] So far, I'm been unsuccessful, but I still make it into orbit (not without bugs) [00:35:56] Which losses are you guesstimating? [00:36:26] I was heavily inspired by the post I cite at the top of the gravity turn script, and by the GravityTurn mod. [00:36:36] You have losses due to drag, and loses due to gravity [00:36:59] if it was airless, I would simply make sure AP was mere seconds in front [00:37:12] (and be as horinzontal as possible) [00:37:20] Yeah, that's horrible, I tried that. [00:37:35] Setting the intermediate altitude to like 14k where AP is 60s out for the first time. [00:37:48] But Kerbin has an atmosphere, so you have to account for that [00:38:22] so which makes you loses more dV? I tried to find a tradeoff [00:38:30] The code didn't work [00:38:43] Did you use PID loops or something else? [00:38:54] no PID. [00:39:09] I did do a lot of data dump and made grpahs [00:39:26] OMG [00:39:43] That sounds heavy duty [00:40:25] well... I was able to make it into orbit by follwing a simple logic of "at X speed, pitch Y angle" [00:40:32] I was trying to optimise it [00:40:51] That rabbid hole was too much for my small brain [00:41:22] So the code has been sitting there for months and you've convinced me to take another look yesterday [00:42:04] Ah, I was enticed by the grace of letting gravity pull me into the turn. [00:50:47] How else would you minimise dV? [00:51:33] Using just enough thrust to get me up and pointed in the right direction (tweaking TWR in my code) and choosing the right angle/speed combination were what I was doing. [00:52:03] How would you be sure that is the absolute minimum amount of dV? [00:52:19] Repeated simulations. [00:52:47] I was trying to optimse instead [01:21:24] Mathuin: btw, the kOS CPU uses EC. If you don't plan on re-using it, you can use SHUTDOWN. [01:23:45] alright KSP time [01:27:02] Hmm, I will definitely keep that in mind. [01:27:51] one thing I don't like about Lithium on SiriusXM? Beastie Boys. [01:27:55] why were they ever popular. [01:29:45] Mathuin: I'm not sure you can reboot the CPU though [01:30:01] You can put it into standby with the prop monitor, but that's all I know. [01:30:52] ve2dmn here's my spaceplane kOS script, it's a lot of ifs, but it's mostly code from a YouTuber's files that I've just heavily modified. At some point I'll probably build one from scratch https://pastebin.com/zVhhbMnR [01:32:09] the functions.ks import was from the original script, I'll have to look and see if any of it is actually needed [01:32:47] heh not for the SSTO it looks like, it's mostly loops etc. for hovering and landing [01:33:03] I'll finish my rescue mission and then I'll take a look [01:33:14] I'm afraid this kerbal might run out of time [01:41:22] you should rescue that kerbal with the Percival :D [01:54:51] https://i.imgur.com/0qzJ1Et.jpg [01:57:49] so my spaceplane script definitely not good for the Percival.. lol [01:57:55] first plane it hasn't successfully orbited [02:04:59] in kOS if you do GROUNDSPEED+VERTICALSPEED do you get the same speed as what's on the navball? [02:10:32] the answer is yes. [02:10:32] :P [02:10:42] SSTO script now works on the percival [02:11:05] percival is a bit lower thrust than my other planes so it struggles to maintain speed around the 21km altitude threshold [02:13:18] made orbit with 413m/s left for maneuvering and deorbit [02:13:41] 95km orbit, so that's probably enough for a good rendezvous and return home [02:16:33] now the landing test [02:23:25] wow... that rescue missing was not what I was expecting [02:23:55] I did everything wrong, but I somehow managed to make it into the mun orbit using mostly RCS [02:24:27] percival is easy to land, confirmed, I'm a much better pilot than I was a year ago, lol [02:25:06] Now I'll have to take my resupply ship that is docked with the mun station, resupply the mun lander and then make it to kerbin in 1 piece [02:28:52] ve2dmn you were asking about a crew hauler, here's my experimental Gallahad: https://i.imgur.com/mYOzxPE.png [02:29:17] 36 seats [02:30:25] going to test my flight script on it and see what adjustments I need to make on it [02:40:11] looking good so far, coasting to 100km altitude with 1091m/s dv left [02:40:25] and peri is only at -17km so it'll be a pretty small circularization burn [02:44:46] One mildly annoying thing about the probe control room mod is that you can hear the rocket engines as if you were on the craft. [03:06:29] dammit! just as I finished that rescue mission: "KSP_64.exe has caused an error..." [03:08:40] Gallahad-LC-XL on KerbalX now :) [03:09:09] not sure why I keep getting disconnected. [03:09:23] ve2dmn: Load last save ;). [03:10:05] took a quicksave before landing [03:10:13] excellent [03:10:42] luckely for me, persitent game was date to just before 'recover craft' [03:11:18] Autosave on crash? [03:11:43] no. Crash on recovering craft [03:12:00] autosave was on landing in the ocean [03:12:43] I mean, does KSP autosave on crash? [03:12:56] no clue. probably not [03:13:06] Maybe not sensible. Might have corrupt data. [03:18:32] I wonder if the kerbal do anything in USI Life support or Konlies [03:18:38] Kolonies* [03:22:09] really not sure why I keep getting booted heh [03:32:28] madmerlyn: Mathuin https://github.com/KSP-KOS/KSLib/blob/master/stripper/pack.sh [03:32:46] how to fit more script per script [03:33:07] run stripper($5). [03:33:40] Stripper or packer... [03:34:19] the point is to strip the useless bits and pack the same fucntions into a smaller package [03:35:02] it's obvious... there's probably a lot that could be done to improve it, like smaller function names, etc [03:40:58] so after a guy on discord suggested canards are bad design I'm working on making my gallahads function without them :P [03:46:12] and.. that made it better, lol [03:50:48] they are stabilizer, but they bring the COL in front [03:52:38] maybe a reality vs ksp thing? [03:53:00] well yeah in reality canards create turbulence on the wings behind them etc. [03:53:21] in KSP they don't so that's why they work *so* well, according to this guy :P [03:53:45] but my no canard version is actually better so now I'm probably going to have to redesign every plane in the Gallahad family, lol [04:11:27] https://media.8ch.net/file_store/cb1770e553288b3b60a6e7254697ea3350659de05e8cb7cec8c031813c502b01.jpg https://media.8ch.net/file_store/51384187f4cf815c5650a3ddd834c8802d5c7507c1bcd0197e9300365e7cf618.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7oMBq1vkCM [04:11:28] YouTube - Bobby Roode - Glorious Domination (Official Theme) [04:12:07] What are those black blocks? [04:12:57] They look like insulation [04:22:08] madmerlyn: your Lancelot Mk1 looks a lot like my old spaceplanes [04:22:22] it's one of my old ones :D [04:22:34] Except I used a mix of engines [04:22:38] way too much engine power too hehe [04:22:44] like it could probably work with 2 engines [04:25:05] so my new revisions with the 36 kerbal capacity LC-XL Gallahad [04:25:27] if you refuel it on orbit with just a little bit of fuel [04:25:33] could go to Mun or Minmus orbit [04:25:35] and back [04:25:54] could probably even land on minmus if you're particularly adventurous [04:26:57] yeah, looking at your designs and script, it's clear that I made spaceplanes with not enough engine power [04:27:30] was trying to save dV but I wind up not being able to make it into orbit [04:27:58] I hate SSTOs that require complicated ascent profiles :P [04:28:11] if I have to do a 5km nosedive halfway through it's not a good spaceplane IMO [04:28:47] It just confirmed my suspicions :/ [04:29:04] now I'll just have to learn to land properly [04:29:31] since their purpose is to recover all the non-fuel costs, I don't fret too much if having a little more engine power means burning more fuel, because I'm still getting cost per ton of payload below 1k [04:29:47] basically I try to aim too high and overdesign... which usually means lacking something somewhere [04:30:31] that percival can in theory recover a kerbal from LKO for ~500 funds [04:34:30] I better go to bed. I'm gonna continue this tomorrow morning [04:35:31] We are under a cold advisory... let's just hope I don't lose power overnight. [04:38:46] -40 is no fun [04:41:42] madmerlyn: anyway, I'll think about your launch script... there's probably a better way to write it with triggers [04:42:22] yeah I need to rewrite it from scratch, like I said it was mostly modified from someone else's script [04:42:25] sup [04:42:28] Like, check for air pressure via a sensor and switch engine mode on that trigger [04:43:11] Oneiros: What's up? Indoor heating [04:43:47] outdoor heating here haha [04:43:54] you must be in winter [04:44:32] I'm under a cold advisory [04:44:56] take your pic: https://weather.gc.ca/warnings/index_e.html [04:45:03] Apparently it's getting down to 230 K? [04:45:30] UmbralRaptor: close, 247K without the windchill [04:46:49] but it's gonna be below 255K all week [04:48:01] oh canada, yeah thats cold [04:49:39] we dont get much snow in aus. 10 deg C is very cold here. [04:49:41] 265 K here in VA at the moment, and that's plenty cold enough. [04:50:33] Action: UmbralRaptor wants to say that the coldest he saw in KC was, uh, 250-253ish? [04:51:17] Action: Oneiros is not familiar with Kelvins [04:51:34] so what happened to kerbalstuff? did it get shut down [04:52:18] The operator took it down. [04:54:19] bummer. i guess spacedock is the goto for modders now? [04:54:44] i remember curse was always annoying [04:55:55] Oneiros: You'll also probably be suprised to learn that we heat by electricity [04:56:38] lol wat is this sorcery [04:57:22] I remember traumatising people from Belgium with that fact [04:57:32] That seems silly anywhere too cold for heat pumps. [04:57:40] we have electric heaters here too, but im not aware of any of those boiler type units that seem common up there [04:58:16] UmbralRaptor: at 0.06CAD per kilowatthour, I don't care that much [04:58:42] wow, so low [04:58:57] but yeah, below -15C, heat pump are useless [04:59:07] i think we're at around 0.22AUD now and its always going up fast [04:59:54] plus daily supply fees which pretty much double the costs for a one person flat [05:00:13] supply fees? [05:01:26] something like 90c a day just to have electricity supplied from the grid [05:02:10] makes me want to work towards a complete solar setup the way prices are going here [05:03:50] Action: UmbralRaptor is currently paying more connection fees than anything else. I think it worked out to 0.67 USD/kWh last month. [05:04:40] yikes [05:05:36] I'll have to check. I don't think I have theses fees [05:07:54] ha. I do pay that. it's 25CAD per month [05:08:31] yeh [05:09:14] last year 1860 kWh x 0.0571 $ + 471 kWh x 0.0868 $ [05:09:38] (for 2 months) [05:10:05] and that 25CAD was for 60 days, not for a month [05:10:41] so cheap [05:11:27] yeah... well. It's the only thing that's cheap. Internet and Cell phone service are insane [05:11:36] ISS Urine Tank Level: 39% [05:11:57] cringe: what's the historical high? [05:12:13] i don't believe historical data is kept [05:12:13] i dont even leave my pc idling for an hour or two because thats an extra 0.1kwh lol [05:12:20] but i've seen it at 97% [05:12:38] lol [05:13:37] Another downside of living here: -30C winters and +30C summers [05:13:52] but yeah, at least the cold kills the dangerous stuff [05:15:12] enough of me rambling. Good night. [05:17:50] gn [07:40:41] hating this canadian winter :( [07:40:55] spent the last 4 years in usa and got used to going without it [08:09:48] We have like 5 days total snow in Tennessee. [08:10:15] Maybe 2-10 days with snow on the ground. [08:17:35] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:24:20] would be nice to have wind in ksp. for gliding [09:30:13] Yeah [09:30:22] I've always wanted weather to be a thing [09:30:41] Storms would add to the tension [09:30:44] it can bea precalculated map even i dont care [09:31:02] maybe with daily intensity changes [09:32:04] There was one back in .90 [09:32:06] https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/86596-090-kerbal-weather-systems-alpha-053-wip-jan-2/ [09:36:38] Howdy [09:36:50] Tere hommikust BadRocketsCo [10:21:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:52:55] deddly not so much weather but just clouds would be nice [10:53:47] Well that is probably the most requested stock feature, JCB. [10:54:02] At least there are some nice mods that do it, but yeah - stock would be great [10:54:14] Action: APlayer removes some of the real clouds from the sky and loads them into JCBs game [10:55:17] Also, I don't think stock clouds would be great because my computer sucks at rendering. If the clouds could not be turned off in stock, it would be Kerbal Slideshow Program for me [10:56:53] There are clouds in stock KSP [10:57:04] just go to the VAB :p [10:57:05] (E.g. I can barely run the game with EVE and the lightest configs installed, scatterer in any setup kills my game completely) [10:57:21] APlayer: I tried RO and RVE once. [10:57:23] Once. [10:57:34] I was reader [10:57:38] Deaded [10:57:43] ugly jagged horizon [10:57:51] green eve [10:58:02] i sad goodbye to these in a matter of minutes [10:58:17] would have been nice [10:58:54] TBH, I am almost ready to get a new GPU that could handle KSP + scatterer, it's just so beautiful [10:59:05] it is just so ugly :) [10:59:09] Nope [10:59:23] Action: APlayer starts a flamewar [10:59:27] to me the aliased hills far away are so immersion breaking that i chose not to have them [10:59:52] I see no reason why something like wouldn't be switchable [10:59:54] I've never seen aliased hills. What setup caused them for you? [11:00:03] their default etup [11:00:10] In Eve? [11:00:12] i tried it in several ksp versions and it was always there [11:00:15] EVE* [11:00:18] sve + scatterer [11:00:21] Hence you get a better config pack [11:00:25] Oh. Never noticed. [11:00:40] if you have few pixels it may not be that visible [11:00:40] I don't always go for it, if I do it's usually just for screenshots [11:00:51] but i am accustomed to barely visible pixels [11:00:52] But it's the atmospheric color I am after with scatterer [11:01:03] and suddenly there are these huge pixels from 92 [11:01:35] i made a huge mistake [11:01:52] in 2016 i went into a bookstore and bought an interesting looking book [11:01:59] that was t eh first volume of expanse [11:02:46] and now i am stuck with the hungarian translation (which drives me nuts, who would translate abbreviations so that i cant understand them, not to mention incorrectly) and with several months of lag after american release [11:03:26] for example point defense cannons are not PDCs but PV�s [11:03:40] i cant comprehend what MEK would be instead of MCRN [11:04:18] and the worst offender is UN which is used as EN, however the correct hungarian name that is is usage is ENSZ [11:04:36] also this month the 7th volume is out and i cant get it. in fact i could barely get the 6th [11:05:38] oh yes, also OPA KBSZ [11:09:07] well ya.. kinda weird, VAB or maybe even SPH shows clouds yet go for a flight, the whole planet devoid.. oh well. [11:09:39] could always make yoru own clouds, most engines put out smoke ;) [11:10:41] hehe [11:10:48] build a cloud generator! [11:11:24] it is quite easy to turn engines to the ground and then they make some kind of fog at least [11:12:59] The VAB shows clouds because those are basically a fixed texture. This is a shortcut that won't do if you want actual 3D clouds [11:13:30] i so want foldable wings and stock electric props. it would be beautiful to drop an electric plane to duna that would jettison an aeroshell after slowing down, unfold wings, turn on the engine and fly around the planet [11:13:54] There are mods for all of the things you mentioned [11:14:14] mods [11:14:45] at least with the expansion i get my 2 person capsule and the extra diameter modules we need for a correct saturn v :) [11:15:29] A significant fraction of why KSP is awesome is because it is really mod friendly. I don't understand people that just boycott mods for no reason [11:15:43] just prop engines period... [11:16:02] i built a succesful electric prop once [11:16:04] it was ugly [11:16:14] welp... 10 tons, 2 monprope engines, 4 sphere tanks not enough to land this base from 14km mun orbit [11:16:24] the second, better looking is not working again [11:16:44] JCB: How much dv does it have? [11:17:09] no clue... testing with regular bi fuel engines now [11:17:55] ran out of mono about 1200m up and was still going 170m/s [11:18:27] How much monoprop is in each sphere tank? What's the engine ISP? [11:19:49] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHuydz0fn3A [11:19:50] YouTube - Expedition to New Horizons [11:20:01] ok, this is from planetbase, but fits ksp, or any space game too [11:20:42] each sphere tanks held 60.. there was 8 of them. [11:21:03] https://giant.gfycat.com/MassivePossibleBobwhite.mp4 [11:21:33] two puff engines, 250isp [11:21:58] Epi: Uh, how? [11:22:04] hehe leidenfrost effect? [11:22:25] possibly [11:22:35] But is there enough water on a hand? [11:23:29] Tsiolkovsky says you have about 670 m/s of dv. Should be a close deal, but enough given an efficient landing [11:23:33] @JCB [11:23:51] Althego was going to say the same thing hah [11:23:55] hehe, yo, tsiolkovsky in da house [11:24:44] hmm, there could be an epic rap battles episode with von braun :) [11:25:53] JCB: How are you landing, then? [11:25:59] maybe a von braun vs korolev or something like that [11:26:37] Von Braun vs. The Space Kraken [11:26:58] (tm) [11:27:30] APlayer just did more precise... 498 DV... [11:27:47] base was 10.455wet, 8.535 empty mono.. [11:27:48] Then it was more than 10 tons while fuelled [11:28:54] there is a tesla vs edison, so i thought maybe a von braun vs korolev in rocket science instead of electricity [11:28:58] I only got a glance at the weight, was roughing it a little. [11:29:03] Alright, you miss about 100 m/s for a landing [11:29:04] then I just rebuilt it [11:30:15] ah.. another ring of 4 mono sphere tanks, 692 [11:30:30] MOAR fuel [11:31:25] lol... all those spheres, like some christmas tree on the roof [11:31:40] Considered adding an inline tank? [11:33:33] maybe... though here see [11:33:33] https://imgur.com/a/1fg7g [11:33:33] https://i.imgur.com/Nj3wO2i.jpg [11:34:11] I'm mostly testing ideas.. wasting time [11:34:33] A 1.25 m inline tank on the top would be alright, I guess [11:34:36] so cute [11:34:48] why not use bipropellant? [11:35:10] Engine mass/size? [11:35:16] I guess [11:35:35] ended up just with the base, no fuel or engines... [11:35:50] they sorta came as after thought.. [11:36:00] again, just testing an idea... [11:36:18] some kind of strobe light would be nice on top [11:36:28] Also, considered a skycrane approach? [11:52:27] going to try cut it down to just two sides instead of four.. inline rcs tank [11:53:17] also quad thrusters instead of dual.. [11:56:11] just barely made it [11:56:17] ah well ok time for a bit more rest... [11:56:18] lates [12:34:08] Action: APlayer wishes himself luck with getting this: http://www.braeunig.us/space/atmmodel.htm#table4 into a single function [12:34:36] Anyone perhaps know a better function that yields approximate air density vs. altitude at Kerbin? [12:35:12] (For reference: I know this is for Earth, but the Wiki says it is very close to Kerbin if you convert the altitude) [14:07:28] APlayer: put a sensor on the ship? [14:08:14] I am already gathering aero data point-by-point, a function would be much more convenient :P [14:08:22] Plus, I am sure there is one somewhere [14:08:34] dump data into file, make graph, approximate function? [14:09:38] I mean, kOS can do that. (write to file, I mean) [14:13:14] yes steam... since I like space, I would LOVE this game... http://store.steampowered.com/app/720480/Flappy_Galaxy/ [14:13:19] *sigh* [14:20:33] Currently I am stuck with the approximate function part [14:21:23] All kinds of software just fails, and the best I got wiggled like crazy between individual data points [14:21:42] I've never done this before and I am kind of lost regarding what I am supposed to do [14:22:41] It's the first time desmos.com failed me, even [14:23:01] Not quite failed, but I feel it won't be done by tomorrow at its current speed [14:34:29] APlayer: https://ksp-kos.github.io/KOS/structures/celestial_bodies/atmosphere.html [14:35:10] Yeah, but I need a function, still [14:35:18] It's for further calculations [14:36:36] http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot+%7B0.6*exp(-h%2F8000),+1*exp(-h%2F5600)%7D+for+h%3D0+to+50000 [14:37:47] wait... that's not the right formulas [14:39:11] Also, what sort of regression pattern would you use for such a plot: https://i.imgur.com/lSNk0tw.png [14:39:42] what sort of data is that? [14:39:56] Mach number versus rocket Cd [14:40:37] https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/37uv0b/i_measured_atmospheric_pressure_on_laythe_and/crqb565/ [14:41:03] Not just Cd, but Cd * A [14:41:40] anybody who did aerobraking on laythe know that its higher atmosphere is vicious [14:42:02] ve2dmn: Yeah... But I need a function... :D [14:42:18] supposedly the exact curves contain several layers, like termosphere and stuff like that [14:42:30] bit the exponential function is a very good approximation [14:42:38] You don't have to look for one, I was just asking if anyone knew one already. Thanks a lot anyway [14:43:26] Althego: Do you know where to find this exponential function approximation? [14:43:40] I need one for Kerbin... [14:43:45] https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/140040-atmospheric-pressure-equation-or-measurement/&do=findComment&comment=2610009 [14:44:05] slp * Math.exp(-alt/sch) [14:44:18] slp sea level pressure, sch scale height [14:44:24] alt is your altitude [14:44:48] these two constants are given for each body [14:46:42] Wait, that's exactly what I was looking for. Where can I find the scale height? [14:46:51] i got it from the wiki :) [14:47:32] greetings fellow kOS engineers [14:47:41] but they got it from somewhere, probably some game file has these [14:47:48] they even changed several times [14:48:20] Geez, I visited the English and German Wikis. The German one had some numbers, but it was last edited 2014 [14:48:29] for each planet [14:48:35] I totally missed that the constant is in the table on the right [14:48:48] so for example ifyou look up kerbin, there is a separate table at the top right [14:48:51] each body has that [14:48:54] man... APlayer thanks for the rabbid hole... [14:48:54] Thanks a lot, and sorry for being dumb on occasion [14:48:57] and contains atmospheric data [14:49:27] always use the english [14:49:36] Althego: are you sure that's not the old formula? [14:49:48] ve2dmn: Sorry for that, and thanks for trying to help anyway [14:49:58] as i said, there is some complication tothe real one [14:49:59] Will try to avoid such things [14:50:09] APlayer: now I'm gonna do my own data gathering :D [14:50:10] you can see a diagram how temperature changes by altitude on kerbin [14:50:19] and temperature has influence on pressure [14:50:24] so it is not exactly exponential [14:50:28] but very close [14:50:54] what changed in different ksp versions was atmosphere ceiling and the scale height [14:51:39] ah yes the exponential function is valid until the top of the atmosphere [14:53:17] https://i.imgur.com/v1mglzF.png alright, we are getting somewhere [14:54:08] I wish I could split it up into four polynomial functions, but I can't work with that, then [14:56:35] This looks an awful lot like something I could describe by a sum of exponential functions, but I just can't seem to make it work [14:57:20] oo a graph [15:00:07] what is this graph [15:00:16] what is on the axes? [15:01:29] you could also try to summon taniwha if he remembers how the atmospheric pressure is calculated :) [15:03:18] after one month the new speakers arrived. finally [15:03:30] yi hated the headphones [15:06:13] I have data [15:06:30] 5605 data points [15:07:44] https://imgur.com/a/tF8XH [15:07:44] https://i.imgur.com/WOBxJgt.png [15:08:18] Althego: The graph is Mach number vs. Cd * A of a rocket. I got help in #kspacademia, now it looks like this: https://imgur.com/WXa7gYT [15:08:18] https://i.imgur.com/WXa7gYT.png [15:09:41] I thought it was a graph of NASA's budget over time [15:09:51] LOL [15:10:17] madmerlyn: Did you have a chance to make the KSP meme? :D [15:10:24] no? [15:10:43] oh the programming one? shoot completely forgot about it [15:11:29] No worries, and don't hurry [15:11:43] Was just wondering if I missed it [15:14:39] Data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fWdlQRR3kqZEoyFNhO_dx3IXNmyZLpGDUtEzHKloc6g/edit?usp=sharing [15:15:43] ve2dmn: That was an atmospheric probe sounding rocket? [15:15:52] pretty much [15:16:07] 1 SRB + sensor and kOS [15:16:14] Alright, let me see if the data matches the function given in the wiki [15:17:31] what's the formula again? I'll make a new colomn to compare [15:20:49] If I got the format correctly, then 100 * e^(-x/5600) [15:21:00] But no [15:22:58] Desmos refuses to handle so many rows [15:23:50] Ah, I see what you did there [15:24:16] it's close enough [15:24:32]