[03:16:47] <Guest06937> How do I get a refund for this game?  Just bought it tonight.  Not played it at all.  Feel like I have to have an IT degree to understand let alone fix what ever is wrong.  Not worth it to me.  How do I get a refund for this game?
[03:19:11] <Guest06937> To be clear, I cannot get the game working on my computer.  I would just like to get my money back.  Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
[03:21:10] <TheKosmonaut> Guest06937: did you buy it on steam?
[03:21:30] <Guest06937> No, directly on KSP
[03:23:06] <TheKosmonaut> Guest06937: kk hang on a sec lemme get the email address to contact for ya
[03:23:25] <Guest06937> Thank you!
[03:24:49] <TheKosmonaut> Try contacting support@kerbalspaceprogram.com
[03:24:55] <TheKosmonaut> ...
[03:26:47] <TheKosmonaut> Guest25965: hello
[03:26:56] <TheKosmonaut> We're you the one looking for the email a min ago
[03:27:04] <Guest25965> Hi, yes please.
[03:27:06] <TheKosmonaut> support@kerbalspaceprogram.com
[03:27:09] <TheKosmonaut> There you go
[03:27:17] <Guest25965> I got disconnected.  Thank you.
[03:28:07] <Guest25965> Do they refund?  I never played the game.
[03:29:11] <TheKosmonaut> Guest25965: that's between them and you. I am not too sure what the refund policy is
[03:29:27] <Guest25965> Okay....
[03:29:31] <TheKosmonaut> I do know that refunds for third party sites like GOG and steam etc aren't covered by squad
[03:29:45] <TheKosmonaut> But as for KSP itself from the site, not sure.
[03:30:57] <Guest25965> Well I guess I'll find out.  Disappointing, I really wanted to play.  I just can't trouble shoot all the IT mumbo jumbo to fix what ever is wrong.  Feel like I need an IT degree to understand.
[04:07:47] <Rolf> https://twitter.com/AstroHardin/status/1154783259945000960
[04:07:48] <kmath> <AstroHardin> Turn your device to the landscape position and watch this! This is spectacular! #ISS 🚀🛰 https://t.co/tc32CPyPlO
[04:10:08] <Althego> as in ksp, docking always happens on the night side so you cant see anything
[04:10:32] <Althego> what vehicle is this from?
[08:10:44] <Tank2333> Guest25965 should have turned it off and on again, that always works
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[22:13:26] <JVFoxy> bleh.. was going to do a mun landing but now sunny side facing away from kerbin...
[22:34:57] <UmbralRaptor> Far side landing it is 
[22:36:55] <packbart> The far side is the fun side!
[22:45:44] <darsie> Make a relay
[22:46:47] <JVFoxy> suppose I could toss a twin set or triple set of relays up in a launch
[22:47:29] <JVFoxy> now I just need some music while designing something
[22:53:07] <darsie> VAB has great music :).
[23:01:32] <UmbralRaptor> Bad Apple? 
[23:04:04] <JVFoxy> nah.. I usually poke soundcloud website
[23:04:06] <JVFoxy> also...
[23:04:41] <JVFoxy> I think I wigged out the DeltaV thingy in VAB... 5 tanks+terrier, think I only got 30seconds burn, 127dv in vacuum.. eh..
[23:04:57] <UmbralRaptor> uh
[23:05:38] <UmbralRaptor> Although I have a launcher it thinks can't get to orbit. I think sufficiently odd tank layouts confuse it. 
[23:09:51] <JVFoxy> I'm burning to circularize.. thinks I'm stuck at 24dv now
[23:10:49] <JVFoxy> I've two tanks inline, 3 oscars surface mounted on them. docking ports, and the probes with their own engines and tanks... ya mighta made it a bit confused
[23:15:44] <JVFoxy> ah ya.. I took the oscars with the attached probes and then it figured things out..
[23:16:04] <darsie> JVFoxy: Crewed or probe?
[23:17:26] <JVFoxy> mk3 command, but service section has 3 probes on docking ports.. I'm just being a little cheap, I could have done things a bit better if I unlocked more parts
[23:18:57] <JVFoxy> huh.. I stick them back on, it gets confused again..
[23:20:27] <JVFoxy> ya.. its as soon as I connect oscar tanks to the ant engines, if ant engines are connected on docking ports
[23:20:48] <JVFoxy> says I've got 2600dv, which drops down to 127dv when I do that.
[23:22:05] <darsie> Guess it thinks the ants have to power the whole ship, then.
[23:23:01] <UmbralRaptor> Guess Excel based craft design remains useful 
[23:23:01] <JVFoxy> don't know... guess it doesn't like when use docking ports as decouplers?
[23:24:04] <JVFoxy> swapped in with regular decouplers, though I don't have the the tiny ones.. trying something else. sticking them on the radial tanks but with probes off set so I can still fit in fairing
[23:25:57] <JVFoxy> well at least DV isn't as confused... now to see if can drop probes off without decouplers blowing everything up
[23:30:16] <JVFoxy> technically I could have just used a service bay for two relays like I've done in teh past.. but I wanted a challenge :)
[23:35:52] <JVFoxy> anyways.. ya works, but now gotta run