[00:21:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:23:01] KrazyKrl, I want to say that can be traded off, to some extent, by efficiency of the detectors in the individual pixels, as well as longer exposure. [00:23:12] Of course, you can't get data from less than one photon... [00:23:45] but there's a LOT of things astronomers care about for which the diffraction limit inherent in the mirror size isn't the limiting factor [00:43:46] hmm, another oxygen not included update. tempted to start a new save and check out what's new. [00:55:12] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:18:06] hmm... the obvious part for "kick off space tourism" has *two* passengers. guess I can get another pilot their first star. [01:19:15] i couldnt get into oxygen not included... i play civ 6 at deity level, i master management games [01:19:26] way too much stuff going on in oxygen not included [01:25:07] https://imgur.com/a/1b9O75P does this look moderately sane for getting into orbit? note that the delta-V is a significant underestimate, since I plan to throttle back the swivel stage for much of its burn time (particularly, for the last half or so of the boosters' life) [01:25:07] https://i.imgur.com/PmXwtDk.png [01:25:55] Pakaran: should be ok [01:27:17] I don't see any issues, but it's the first tourist mission in this career (had some mod issues, but now have as 1.3 GPP install that I plan to just leave as-is indefinitely) [01:27:55] but yeah, first one is always a bit nerve wracking, especially with under 40k funds (got level 2 launchpad, VAB and MC) [01:28:37] taniwha, thanks. [01:39:15] hmm... [01:39:41] keep wnating to throw out videos on craft ideas but never find motivation to do anything about it.. :\ [01:39:45] maybe just nervous [04:29:31] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:40:10] bwoop [04:43:04] what is minmus' inclination? [04:43:47] ... 6 degrees... according to KSP wiki [04:44:03] why do you ask? [04:44:11] of kevin bacon? ok thanks [04:44:32] well that dv map is great, but fails to show inclination [04:44:37] https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Minmus [04:44:55] hay umbralraptor [04:45:25] hm [04:45:27] hi [04:45:34] hehe [04:45:40] Also, hi to you bot. [04:46:04] Transitbiker which DV map you using? [04:46:34] the one linked in the message [04:47:11] Oh.. the topic one.. hold on [04:47:24] I know of one that might help you a little more, can even adjust it [04:47:37] the porkchop one? [04:47:49] https://13375.de/KSPDeltaVMap/ [04:48:21] just remember, its set to give you extra 10% more DV than if you were to do exact. Also, it accounts for full aero breaking. Both options you can turn off if you want [04:48:56] bookmarked! ^-^ [04:50:00] top right, the 3 bars thing, gives you the options window. you can set it to consider plane changes too [04:50:24] it takes a little getting used to. I've used it before, though has its flops sometimes if you don't have things set just right [04:51:38] ive used BASIC to calculate coin flip percent predictions, so i should be ok, hehe [04:52:03] put it in the topic [04:52:21] ... ya but you programing it yourself, you know whats going on, how to interface with it. [04:53:40] speaking of programming.. wish I knew a good 'test bed' to try out some ideas for crafting I wanna include in a game [05:02:20] Action: TransitBiker is away: auto-away [05:04:36] Action: TransitBiker is back (gone 00:02:15) [05:04:54] nice [05:05:09] no, i am back, got back my superpower with a boost. infinite mobile net! [05:05:12] Is unsure quite what JCB means, so I'll suggest Python. [05:05:21] haha [05:05:41] mhm python [05:06:04] scott made a video on proton [05:06:04] bbl ^-^ [05:06:09] oh? [05:06:26] because of its removal from service [05:06:33] tucking in me lady, will look afterward [05:06:40] bbl ^-^ [05:07:42] Transit was talking about coding... I've been trying to find something light weight to get into to test some ideas out. [05:08:04] Althego Ya.. I saw that video too.. [05:08:10] i didnt get to it yet [05:08:23] i linked an article about the fact yesterday, but then there was no scott vide [05:08:31] some references to KSP... mostly in the design ideas [05:08:36] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF6GRPaeLbk [05:08:36] YouTube - How Asteroid Mining Will Save Earth | Space Time [05:11:30] The Proton is not a very kerbal rocket. 0 boosters? [05:11:39] hypergolic [05:11:43] kerbal enough for me [05:11:58] no real reason to use that as first stage [05:12:14] Titan IV, though. [05:18:03] original idea was common parts, they'd just put together build the rocket [05:18:28] had limitations on sizes, hence why not boosters, those are bolted on, stay on the whole launch. [09:02:40] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:17:37] I just had four helicopters fly over my house [09:18:23] looked like ground SDF camo, possibly OH-1s [09:26:22] this sounded like you made them flay over ther [09:26:28] and i cant write [09:30:47] GlassYuri: where do you stay again? [09:31:04] TheKosmonaut, suginami [11:36:17] SGDQ at 725k [11:43:07] I made it to work... 2h early [11:43:19] I'll just leave earlier [12:30:50] ve2dmn: I mean... 30 minutes early I can get [12:30:58] but how did you arrive 2h early? [12:31:43] Went to bed at 20:30 last night [12:33:42] Also, so tired that I posted this earlier message in the wrong chat [12:38:58] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:26:57] TIL that Humidex != Heat index [13:31:07] Never heard of Humidex but that sounds more related to humidity than heat [13:32:29] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humidex vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_index [13:33:08] both are 'feel like' measure of temperature in high humidity [13:34:16] Like, This Sunday, the forecast is a Humidex of 44 (33C with 70%+ humidity) [13:35:08] So basically a "feels like" temperature [13:35:57] Yes... but the US and Canada uses differetn formulas [13:36:03] I see [13:36:15] Do either of them include wind chill? [13:36:20] no [13:36:29] So we also need a chillex [13:36:44] or a Windex [13:37:06] A humichillex [13:39:05] Most TV channels have their own formulas for the 'feel like' thingy [13:39:22] But I'm use to Humidex in the summer and Wind chill in the winter [13:44:26] Yeah I like to chillex in the winter, too [13:45:43] Today is International Caps Locks day: It's the day we ignore that key completely. Thank you for respecting this tradition [13:57:28] WHAT A WONDERFUL IDEA [13:57:54] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caps_lock#International_Caps_Lock_Day [14:18:54] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:44:21] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:13:55] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:16:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dozeman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:18:00] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:26:40] it's business time in 16 days [15:26:53] i swear they are just teasin and dont even want to launch [15:27:23] ... [15:36:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:37:51] https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/06/27/rocket-labs-first-commercial-launch-scrubbed-again/ [15:39:44] basically, they have issues with a controller and scrub the whole thing for now [15:40:12] So the first commercial launch of Electron is, again, delayed [15:41:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dozeman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:41:34] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o NBones' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:44:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:55:18] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dozeman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:57:41] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:59:12] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:00:30] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dozeman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:03:00] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:03:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:05:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dozeman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:06:58] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:17:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:33:30] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:16:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dozeman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:20:14] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:23:15] if that's not kerbal then i don't know anymore https://mobile.twitter.com/harmenbakker/status/1011758202692784130 [17:23:16] https://twitter.com/harmenbakker/status/1011758202692784130 @WesselSchinkel @OffensiveDr Het bewegende beeld Wessel https://t.co/UOUMo8Ewr9 [17:26:14] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dozeman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:37:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:39:25] Eddi: Uh, language in the video... [17:41:05] what? that's perfectly normal german [17:41:45] Come on ;-) [17:45:32] what happened? [17:45:42] i've seen plenty of american tv shows that didn't beep out foreign language swear words :p [17:45:59] ve2dmn: apparently they tried to fire a missile, and it... backfired [17:46:25] Someone Set us up the bomb! [17:46:34] Eddi: Well, this is a definitive profanity, and my duty is to beep them out retroactively, so... [17:51:30] APlayer: i'm sorry, i don't have a device that can censor other people's speech because of oversensitive cultural differences, that is also completely besides the point of the video [17:52:50] Hey, I'm not accusing you of anything, and nothing bad happened. I just ask you to watch the links you send here more closely and try to avoid ones that might not be family friendly, in any language [17:54:21] Eddi|zuHause: APlayer is just doing the job APlayer was hired for [17:55:23] "Hired" as in, "Hey, we need some help over here. You guy got some time?" [17:57:10] btw APlayer, anything new with the quadcopter? [17:59:00] Fluburtur: The thing I showed you so far was a prototype. That phase of the project is finished, a report was written and we now moved on to work on the extended version. That is, we soldered and tested a remote control, successfully got the individual components (Raspberry Pi, Camera, RF transceivers, ...) to work, and are currently working on the layout of the quad itself [17:59:20] nice [18:00:42] Having a bit of trouble with that. We tried to use mathematics (tm) on it, but when we tried to move the components in place as calculated, we ended up with clipped stuff and basically the battery on one side, and everything else on the other side of the quad [18:01:30] The battery is just too heavy to comfortably move it away from the center, but the closer it is to the center, the closer the power supply parts with large currents are to the magnetometer [18:01:50] put the battery under the quad [18:02:10] That'd end up serving as a landing leg, then [18:02:23] I'd rather put the magnetometer under it [18:02:25] don't land hard then [18:02:31] or use little sticks as legs [18:02:49] We do use sticks, but they protrude only minimally, to save on weight [18:06:50] Fluburtur: From experience, how close can a 20 Amp battery be to a magnetometer to still have reasonable readings? [18:07:13] idk [18:54:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/461967653184077825/20180628205325_1.jpg [19:02:33] oh, Fluburtur, today I saw wood insulation foam [19:02:41] apparently glow in the dark tattoos are a thing [19:02:54] oh good [19:02:57] would it work? [19:02:58] and I wonder how good it could be used to make planes with it [19:03:05] I'm not sure [19:03:18] it will be much harder to cut it [19:03:51] maybe it's better to find out how it's made and use the raw materials in a mold? [19:04:03] now something that can't possibly violate any language rules https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIz3klPET3o [19:04:04] expanded foam is very hard to make [19:04:04] YouTube - Line Rider - Mountain King [19:04:11] you need special machinery [19:04:54] otherwise I would use than instead of trying to make planes with fiberglass [19:05:08] but who knows, maybe my business will run and I will be able to affrod machinery to make foam models [19:07:32] Eddi: This violates the "Too much grey color in video" rule, which means that you will be, from now on, permanently banned. Do you have anything to say in your defence? [19:07:41] colour* [19:07:44] :D [19:07:45] lmao [19:07:47] sorry [19:07:59] ve2dmn: British English vs American English [19:08:20] Color is American and Programmer English ;-) [19:08:42] "Do you have anything to say in your defence?" "It's 'grey' and 'colour' your honour" [19:08:56] hehe [19:09:04] i gave up that fight [19:09:13] the majority of english i meet is american [19:09:21] I just wanted to humour APlayer [19:09:49] ve2dmn: If there is an actual mistake in the language, please do, because I did not fully understand yet, and I sure do want to [19:09:51] that video reminds me of elastomania [19:10:11] I'm just teasing! [19:10:22] just as rocketlabs [19:10:29] lmao [19:11:00] I speak french english [19:11:07] hehe [19:11:55] Fluburtur: it is Ze obivious [19:12:16] how to speak french english: hard R [19:12:24] that's also how you speak regular french [19:12:31] and ignore half the letters of words [19:12:46] I never manage to get the 'ze' out of my old boss. He could says everything else correctly, but the 'th' elluded him completely [19:13:21] hehe [19:13:31] i cant say it correctly either [19:13:38] It annoyed me to no end... [19:14:19] my accent is horrible... [19:14:34] what are you thinking avout :) [19:14:34] because i only type in english, i hardly ever speak it [19:14:35] ve2dmn: In that case, you are hereby sentenced to serve for the channel overlords eternally. No appeals. [19:14:52] Althego: exactly... [19:15:17] Althego: What are you sinking about, more like ;-) [19:15:29] Nooooooooo!!!!11!!1!one!!!eleven!1 [19:15:37] hehe hammond is a hamster [19:15:38] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmOTpIVxji8 [19:15:39] YouTube - German Coastguard Sinking - Learn English Commercial [19:15:39] Germans do seem to have an extremely hard time with "th" [19:15:51] much like Americans are bamboozled by umlauts [19:15:53] i like the �berlebensradar [19:16:35] Supercheese: Bamboozled similar to this shocked smiley: � [19:16:36] I should try getting myself so airbrush paint for tattoos [19:16:57] all my familly is like "tattoo bad" but I always like a nice one [19:17:24] b�mb��zled [19:17:51] Plot twist: The German coast guard commercial actually referenced a vessel of people with German accent afraid to use their cognitive functions. "Mayday, mayday, we are thinking!" [19:18:55] Okay, why does a CD have a harder time being read vertically? My CD drive has always been like that. [19:19:55] APlayer: � s�� [19:20:47] wh�t�veY [19:20:53] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dozeman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:21:51] Overwatch annonced a new character... someone posted this: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ThirdPerfectBluebreastedkookaburra-size_restricted.gif [19:22:04] it needed music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ [19:22:05] YouTube - -Yakety Sax- Music [19:22:18] it is literally a hamster in a ball [19:22:46] there was this site that did this. vine or something [19:22:51] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:22:56] you could put music on videos [19:23:15] vine was like for short 6 second clips [19:23:39] I tried gifmusic, but it didn't like the .gif file [19:23:59] it's not like gif was standardized 30 years ago [19:24:20] Gif87 or Gif89? [19:24:49] close enough :p [19:24:54] this is still funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZe5J8SVCYQ [19:24:55] YouTube - The Missile Knows Where It Is... [19:26:24] we spent half a day once in work trying to finding out what it means, by converting the words to variables and the sentences to equations. after that i am pretty sure it is just a clever way of trolling because there was an error in it :) [19:26:54] intentional? [19:27:31] And yes, that's the most fun description of an inertial guidance system. [19:29:35] .... was was looking at some DV stuff, thought it be cool to check Jool out. But ouch... the requirement, nearly 5km just to get to orbit? [19:30:04] Never mind paying a visit to one of the moons even.. [19:30:26] it is free [19:30:36] either by the power of the umbrella :) [19:30:46] or tylo/�aythe [19:30:50] laythe [19:31:21] Yeah, gravity and aero tricks help considerably. [19:31:34] the inflatable heatshield is really op. old days i was always doing aerocapture, but these days i prefer tylo [19:32:12] ok.. what about getting back out? Slingshot with Tylo? [19:32:35] what is that heatshield made of? Asbestos? [19:32:38] or with laythe, but that is hard to plan, so i usually just leave whenever [19:33:03] hmm... [19:33:55] tylo is obviously more powerful [19:35:31] lol... funny how this DV planner says the sun has atmosphere, good for aerobraking..... ya might get a little toaty [19:35:34] toasty [19:35:52] it is technically correct [19:35:54] well, it technically does :p [19:35:58] it has [19:36:02] same as jool [19:36:09] but these two are special bodies [19:36:12] was sorta wondering why specifically tylo... other than the rest too weak [19:36:30] and you can go closer to the surface [19:36:33] Laythe being too close..? [19:36:37] which means better effect [19:36:53] while you cant get too close the laythe because of the atmosphere [19:36:57] I was just poking some fun, ya I know you can use Jool.. just careful not to get too low [19:37:18] ah ok.. [19:38:24] didn't think the sling shot effect had quite /that/ much affect when it came to atmosphere being in the way [19:38:44] as in, airless means you can get just a little bit closer, but bigger effect [19:40:03] usually you need some correction to hit a moon encounter, because they are hard to get. now doing that from half a solar system away and having limited fuel, i want to get the orbit that is the closest to what is desired [19:40:22] in ajool 5 missions tylo is my first target anyway [19:40:39] since it gets rid of the biggest chunk of mass [19:41:06] so i want to get an orbit that after the flyby is closest to jool [19:41:20] or rather the smallest apoapsis [19:41:36] still it is elongated [19:42:04] so adjusting theencounter usually means when getting closer to the surface my jool apoapsis gets smaller [19:42:32] I noticed the planner and DV map... fixed orbital heights, somewhat closest they could get.. there been a few cases where I wouldn't mind something a little higher, nice to know how it affects DV requirements [19:43:36] oberth effect is also the best in lowest orbits, because you are faster there [19:44:33] one mission I ran.. put me into a slight elliptical around the Mun. I was suppose to get a good orbit, but I was getting concerned. I got back to kerbin orbit, figured out I only had 137dv left. Wasn't sure that be enough to circularize around the Mun and get back out again [19:45:00] would mixing food color and alcohol work for airbrush tattoos [19:45:13] I think it needs something else to glue the pigment in place [19:45:22] Alcohol is much too volatile [19:45:33] well it is there to dry quickly [19:45:39] I guess I could have circularized but then I'd be cutting things pretty close [19:45:40] Dip something in it, and you get a thin film of alcohol all over the place [19:46:28] Spray something with alcohol, same effect [19:47:21] this recipe sounds like trying to make some sort of weird glue https://arthearty.com/airbrush-body-paint [19:48:54] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:05:27] https://forum.flitetest.com/index.php?threads/man-life-got-busy-quickly-also-a-1-10-bf-109-build.54156/#post-418954 [20:27:36] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:27:51] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:41:41] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [20:41:41] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:44:14] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [20:44:14] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:48:53] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [20:48:53] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:28:45] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:06:35] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:31:35] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:40:05] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:40:10] Evening, Gentlemen. [23:44:06] anyone have a clue how to write a tech tree adjust-y mod [23:44:34] I proposed a balance pass to Squad for the Making History parts and I want to test it out a little [23:44:50] https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/8octhr/proposed_balance_pass_for_the_making_history/