[00:00:15] drills and radiators retracted. [00:00:24] darsie: turn on autostrut of some kind (i forgot which) on the ore barrels [00:00:42] That would require me to fly again? [00:00:57] if that doesn't work, i think i also added autostrut to the parachutes, and also the radially-mounted fuel tanks [00:01:11] darsie: well, nevermind [00:01:27] i need to redesign the ship any way, because it isn't landable on kerbin. [00:02:51] KJR doesn't help, either. I guess it's not active cause it's incompatible with 1.5.1. [00:05:16] got any bright ideas for an ore ship to bring 2800 back from minmus? :P [00:05:59] i almost certainly need more solar panels [00:06:04] and more parachutes. [00:06:14] or, uh, better parachutes. [00:07:03] mischief: How about clustering tanks in an inline fairing. [00:26:50] hm, i seem to have forgotten how to play surviving mars [00:27:07] mischief: Like this: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot67.png [00:28:15] mischief: once again, blue parachutes are better than orange parachutes [00:30:12] darsie: it just makes it very tall [00:30:41] because i need like 9x300ore tanks + 2 small tanks to fit the payload i need [00:30:59] ah [00:31:07] i used the tri-stack adapter [00:31:19] i guess placing them sideways radially could work but that seems unstable [00:32:18] Gotta land carefully. [00:32:35] use more struts [00:32:50] whats 'rigid attachment'? [00:33:03] no idea, didn't seem to do anything when i tried it [00:39:29] darsie: https://i.imgur.com/NweuzNk.png ? [00:40:02] gotta redesign the base now [00:42:09] gotta figure out where to put chutes.. [00:45:12] on the bottom of the tanks? (opposite of the heatshield?) [00:45:23] or just use a bunch of the sideways chutes [00:49:07] yeah, i added some radially. [00:50:38] remember, mostly blue, only very few orange [00:51:02] (and stage the orange ones first, then the blue ones) [01:04:16] argh [01:04:23] the tank stack is not structurally sound [01:04:27] it starts shaking in flight [01:06:07] hm.. nothing a little autostrut cant fix. [01:09:17] https://www.theonion.com/nasa-catches-glimpse-of-hard-charging-curiosity-rover-j-1830689267 [01:35:49] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:16:03] mischief: I made it with this rocket, but it had some flaws and took a lot of trickery. http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot69.png [04:16:50] mine is huge compared to that, lol [04:16:55] :) [04:16:57] chutes.... [04:17:10] planning to bring ore home? Or I missing something? [04:17:16] 2800 ore [04:17:18] JVFoxy: yes [04:17:21] a mission. [04:17:22] From Minmus. [04:17:43] ouch [04:18:01] made a robotic ore carrier for Mun but never used it. :\ [04:19:08] Bill is just there to operate the drills (does it even help?) But he did steer the ship when the computer exploded, which didn't happen when I finally made it. [04:19:43] engineer makes a huge difference [04:19:56] If you want to save time. [04:20:09] yes [04:20:16] without it it takes like 1 day per 1 ore [04:20:17] >_> [04:20:40] rly? [04:21:38] That's 10 min at 100,000x warp. [04:21:39] I've always wondered: does engineer just have to be in the craft or does he need a command seat as well? [04:21:54] just be, IMO. [04:22:01] in the craft methinks [04:22:06] alright [04:22:12] I haven't messed with things that far yet [04:24:05] Heat shield are overrated ;). [04:25:05] only if its Mk1 pod and coming down from circular 70km orbit... [04:25:45] You can get there with several shallow passes. [04:25:52] speaking of heat... does Sci Jr still have stupid heating issues on re-entry? I seem to recall stupid thing would blow up regardless what shield you put in front of it. [04:31:15] when was that? [04:31:22] never had that kind of problem [04:35:21] a number of versions back. built a probe with a sci jr can, at first behind a heat shield.. then when that failed, a few extra parts, that still failed. [04:39:39] was a couple of yearseback. for a while, people were asking if the jr was extra fragile... then the option to close the doors supposedly helped? [04:42:36] Action: darsie flies a materials bay ... [04:44:29] https://i.imgur.com/Na2kMHX.png [04:44:31] made it :p [04:44:37] fell over, but the ore is intact. [04:46:39] yay :) [04:46:52] I broke some parts, too. [04:52:33] ugh.. this was a while back. V1.05, robotic ore transfer vehicle for Mun... sorry don't recall engine(s) I used for it. https://imgur.com/a/Q75bh5f [04:52:34] https://i.imgur.com/oC35etN.jpg [04:53:28] lolwut? That made orbit? [04:55:01] ... no.. not on its own [04:55:08] jsut showing base unit. [04:55:34] ok :) [04:59:57] just checking thumb pictures.. ya never got around to building the launcher. I think I mostly cheated it out to the mun to test landing and relaunching preformances. [05:00:28] I still haven't really done much with ore extraction and the ISRU.. [05:01:51] i just started playing again [05:02:01] but last i played i'd tried to make a mun miner [05:02:04] it was quite goofy [05:03:36] I'd like to do something done in separate modules. Otherwise I feel the craft would be a bit ungainly if you try to put everything into one build. [05:04:36] jeez, duna takes 264 ingame days to get to? [05:05:32] in game days... [05:05:50] kerbal days way shorter than real life days [05:06:19] mainly worried about keeping ingame day count short and not expiring contracts [05:06:23] since im in career mode [05:06:37] but i have most research nodes done already a 2y220d [05:06:40] at* [05:06:42] Mischief https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Time [05:11:33] JVFoxy: Materials bay got hot on reentry and heat disappeared immediately when I closed the doors: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot70.png Broke on landing (with 4x warp). [05:12:10] ya some people back in the day said the bay would blow up without warning... shrug [05:34:39] damnit [05:34:42] this must be another bug [05:34:54] i wapred to align planets and now i can't control my ship on the launchpad. [05:37:48] mischief: probe core? no launch clamps? no solar panels/rtgs? [05:37:55] (no open panels) [05:39:26] Why does this LED work with a button cell battery, but not with a AA battery? [05:39:49] Draconiator: got the polarity wrong? [05:40:06] or, button has higher voltage [05:41:07] Mischief are you using a probe core and don't have stability enhancers? [05:42:01] most likely probe + no usable power source [05:42:13] = dead on pad after warping [05:42:22] (drained battery) [05:43:05] enhancers supply a small amount of power while holding your ship. [05:43:11] yeah, i forgot to open the panel on the launchpad [05:43:39] you could but long as its daylight :) [05:46:06] JVFoxy: no they do not [05:46:11] they drain power [05:46:41] mischief: launch clamps provide power [05:46:54] oh, huh. [05:47:27] er... unless JVFoxy meant launch clamps by stability enhanders [05:48:15] ya.... [05:48:49] TT18-A Launch Stability Enhancer [05:48:53] I think of SAS units when I hear/read stability enhancer [05:48:55] or aka launch clamps.. shrug [05:49:06] thus, sorry :) [05:49:12] I guess my bad for not adding 'Launch' oops [05:50:06] Yeeeeeeeeeeeeep the voltage was the issue. [05:51:19] button has 3v, AA only 1.5 if you are lucky [05:51:37] and leds tend to be 1.6+ to light [05:53:24] its about 3v.. depends on color. recommend adding a current limiting resistor so kinda brings volts down a little. [05:55:17] yeah I'll need to put 2 AAs together [05:59:25] AAAs even... [06:01:23] god damnit haha [06:01:35] you cant even deploy the solar panel if you run out of battery [06:01:43] so stupid xD [06:02:07] need erm.. backup battery in the solar panel. [06:18:47] mischief you can disable the battery in the core... as a backup [06:19:05] its the only battery [06:19:07] I think you can re-enable if you run out of power... [06:19:13] im using the one with the 1k battery builtin [06:19:18] ah well thats not good.. [06:19:22] ah.. [06:26:43] One of the wriedest rumors I've herard about LEDs is that they are reverse-engineered alien technology [06:29:34] lol [06:29:39] maybe the blue leds :) [06:31:52] Draconiator: yeah, and bell labs didn't invent transistors >_> [06:44:51] Men in Black RPG books sorta mentions most tech was from aliens [06:53:06] hah, but there are no aliens on the flat earth [06:57:40] you noticed how prevalent things been getting too? I cant' tell if they doing it for fun, trolling to be a pain to everyone else, or being legit serious [06:58:23] the front liners are doing it for money. the second line is doing it because they believe it. and there are some trolls too [07:00:04] someone on one of the mars landing streams was being pretty mean about things.. [07:00:33] i didnt even try to look at the chat, it was just scrolling too fast [07:03:31] ah.. ya nasa one's were. the other, myspace wasn't quite as fast [07:11:48] since curiosity there are some people saying it is a lie [07:21:06] believe what they will... they seem pretty hard set on things. -shrug [07:21:56] the worst thing is when they said that the genuine happiness of all the people in the control room after curiosity landed is just bad acting [07:22:48] the constant nagging 'everything is a lie'... and some of the verbal attacks [07:23:07] that is why some call the flat earthers globe deniers [07:27:22] I've got enough going on in my head... all i can say, glad teh lander make it sefely [07:27:30] *safely [07:30:30] any case... rest.. lates [07:41:30] ok, got a satellite to duna. [07:41:55] completed the mission, and got science, including survey scan and atomosphere analysis. [08:32:44] Any forum admins here? [13:16:35] Action: darsie goes to KSC to listen to the nature sounds. [13:18:07] Action: UmbralRaptor forgets, are the phantom birds still around? [13:35:33] yeah [13:35:45] There should be orbital debris cleanup missions. [13:36:20] ofc may would create more debris :). [13:36:24] many* [13:45:39] well, there's really some research going on why the em drive may work and the science behind it. Wendelstein is producing more and better results. So we may get a fusion powered em drive system some day that cleans up debris [13:52:21] AIUI, Wendelstein is right now where JET was, So we'd need stellerator equivalents of ITER, Proto, and Demo. Maybe in the 22nd or 23rd century? [14:08:36] (Plus the need to get reactor mass down, so a spacecraft would need a generation or more of design improvements after viable power reactors) [14:49:00] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:58:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:07:36] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:03:23] https://66.media.tumblr.com/463e3498bc6f97e41de966b377e48158/tumblr_p80gi8l91p1qfji8ro1_500.jpg [18:06:16] Unsettlingly relate-able [18:06:42] I think everyone on the internet has depression and serious social issues [18:11:27] https://66.media.tumblr.com/bcb0bbbbc98d96b38dde43ecc24b7cf2/tumblr_piprmzswxR1uskp9t_540.png [18:16:23] I like turn signals on my car and others too [18:31:54] I I always thought that turn signals are just another gimmick to get to your money, but recently I found out that they actually make decent Christmas illumination [19:04:49] again no video. Ts [19:21:06] graphics card still running after 24h... [19:44:53] Eddi: Are you chasing it, or why is it running? [20:01:30] yes [20:01:49] i tried to catch it with the oven, but it managed to escape [20:28:23] Eddi|zuHause: did you actually put it in the oven [20:29:47] It's still running, so likely not [20:30:27] BPlayer: uh, i've actually heard from questinable sources that some people really do that to fix their video cards [20:30:28] Unless it has a hamster wheel in the oven, at which point the whole jokes reaches an extraordinary level of silly [20:30:46] some hand waving about reflowing the solder joints [20:30:58] Wut [20:31:19] BPlayer: google 'video card oven'. [20:31:23] That's plain stupid [20:31:46] For every GPU it fixes, it probably kills another 10 and a few ovens [20:31:59] sure, it's a bit idiotic [20:32:12] but reflow ovens are actually useful equipment [20:32:25] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/517436016689152011/20181128212508_1.jpg [20:33:12] Fluburtur: wow, kerbal space program got very realistic! [20:33:17] I do not happen to have a reflow oven, but I can resort to a hot air gun, or whatever you call those, in some cases [20:33:44] If anything, careful and precise application of heat may fix stuff [20:55:35] I have done that to a video card [20:57:19] I had a laptop that I loved but it was known for eating the GPU. This was a Dell XPX M2010, a monster of a machine and it had a GPU that could actually be removed and replaced, but the replacements were so expensive that I thought I'd give the oven a try. [20:59:33] I remember pulling the main chip from the card and putting it in the oven for a while. When I took it out and had allowed it to cool, I applied some thermal paste to the chip and replaced it, but the card back in the laptop and hey, presto, it worked [21:01:02] It lasted for months and months (actually longer than a refurbished replacement card I had previously bought and used) until I decided to play Minecraft on the machine and that pushed the GPU too hard making it overheat and die again. By that time I was fed up enough to replace the whole machine. [21:01:30] Thus ended my brief stray away from Thingpads [21:01:35] Thinkpads* [21:09:16] I've got an old broken 8800gts that almost certainly could be fixed in the oven [21:32:37] is anyone here? [21:32:45] Of course not. [21:32:48] Action: BPlayer hides [21:33:05] I am having a real stupid issue here, can anyone help? [21:33:18] Not unless you tell us what the issue is. ;-) [21:33:25] I'm not a tech savvy guy here, but this issue is pissing me off [21:33:34] Ok [21:33:47] I'm trying to build a rocket in the game on ps4 [21:34:15] When trying to build the rocket, it wont allow me to select and pick something with x button? [21:34:23] Also, please do not use strong language in this chat, we enjoy the reputation of being very family friendly. :-) [21:34:35] Oooops, ok. sorry [21:35:11] Unfortunately I only use the Windows version of KSP, so I am not sure how to fix your issue. But if you hang around for some time, other people that might help will show up. [21:35:25] ok, thanks [21:37:46] I think I will try right from the beginning, see what I may be missing. Thanks for the offer though [21:39:12] Does it usually work with the X button? Otherwise a possibility is that your controls are set up differently than you expect. You may check that in the settings of the game. [22:16:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/517463692766478356/20181128230604_1.jpg [22:52:12] i see on alot of mod description that module manager is recommand but where do i install a mod manager? [23:19:50] hello guys [23:22:23] greetings [23:23:19] I am trying figure out the flag thing [23:23:39] They say I am the only one experiencing it so I am installing a new safe file [23:24:45] makes sense [23:24:57] im gonna get to the bottom of this bs [23:26:46] https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/179896-flags-lost-i-am-a-bit-disgusted-by-squad/ [23:33:11] im back [23:33:19] not sure if anyone posted anything yet [23:36:18] cant help ya, I still play on 1.2.2 [23:39:45] I really hope I am wrong and its just part of the game. I dont think its the save file [23:55:02] yep its ther [23:55:08] problem is not me