[00:13:14] why is xchat worse than the kiwi web app [00:14:49] madmerlyn, wasn't xchat replaced by hexchat ages ago? That's what I'm using [00:15:19] I dunno, I just have Xchat on my arch install at home heh [00:15:29] let us consult the Pacman [00:15:43] xchat was encumbered by copyrights for a long long time (don't know it it ever got worked out) making it almost impossible to modernize. Hexchat was the result. [00:16:11] installing hexchat after a general package update :P [00:16:35] btw new AVP dropped yesterday [00:16:46] one of my screenshots made it into his loading screen release :D [00:19:26] AVP? [00:19:44] Astronomer's Visual Pack [00:24:38] hmmm...incandescent lightbulbs are getting rare....they never used to be so high in price. [00:25:22] Draconiator, why do you still need one? [00:26:53] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:28:35] ok I've got Hexchat roughly where I like it [00:28:51] wish I could get rid of all the grey UI elements, but better than nothing [00:29:10] I use kvirc [00:29:23] theres a way to install gtk themes for hexchat on windows [00:30:02] I think gtk themes are normally global on Linux [00:30:41] I just assumed Windows silly me. [00:31:42] He mentioned pacman earlier [00:32:11] I did I did [00:32:14] *sigh* I just tried pinging a random website 3 times, and the results are: 197ms,270ms,lost [00:32:35] I just want useful internet [00:33:18] what kind ? [00:33:40] DSL, 10Mb/s down, 1Mb/s up ( supposedly ) [00:33:52] 10MB VDSL... nice [00:34:11] madmerlyn: you use a gui application on Arch? isn't that illegal or something? :P [00:34:39] XD [00:34:41] uh.. no. It's 2017, having no GUI on a desktop would be asinine ;) [00:34:53] my server has no GUI on it though, and is headless proper. [00:35:01] I will admit that when using Arch I used irssi [00:35:04] I have Arch on my Chromebook. Chromium works, Atom doesn't. [00:35:15] I also use irssi through a screen session. [00:35:47] I do have transparency setup on my hexchat though so I can see what's going on in discord beneath it :P [00:35:54] I'm just messing with you. I love Arch. (Though I have to confess I'm cheating on it with Fedora right now) [00:35:59] It was at least a month in before I thought to install a graphical file manager. I wanted to see video thumbnails, so I installed Thunar. Great FM. [00:36:07] madmerlyn, that sounds terribly confusing [00:36:45] nah, the KSP reddit discord is a pretty young crowd so I mostly don't engage unless it's like posting mission pictures or something [00:37:02] apparently the average age of an IRC user is a lot higher than a discord one :P [00:37:08] no, really? [00:37:13] madmerlyn: imagine that [00:37:14] heh [00:37:21] ok so hexchat, how do I make the stupid channel pane go away, it's wasting real estate [00:37:44] Drag the separator to the edge [00:37:54] lol so just cover it up [00:37:59] k that works I suppose [00:38:45] if anyone cares https://imgur.com/zZGSS1h [00:38:46] https://i.imgur.com/zZGSS1h.png [00:38:47] I might have to do some more advanced configuration with hexchat, like some conky stuff or something [00:39:02] I wonder what's the average age for slack [00:39:06] that's a tiny screenshot [00:39:13] ? [00:39:41] so you run IRC from terminal? [00:39:56] on my laptop yeah [00:39:59] with angry cartoon wallpapers behind it? [00:40:01] :D [00:40:17] my wallpaper is the death star heh [00:40:32] I run IRC from terminal, my wallpaper is a constantly-updated image collage from that Japanese satellite. [00:40:34] +1 for tmux [00:40:38] I was watching a cooptional animated thing on youtube in fullscreen [00:40:45] madmerlyn: my wallpaper is Chrono Trigger [00:41:03] lordcirth: I barely have any idea what I'm doing with it. [00:41:04] ok I need to update all my mods and jump in KSP [00:41:18] have I mentioned I don't use CKAN because CKAN on Linux sucked really bad last time I used it? [00:41:26] madmerlyn, it's fine now [00:41:40] does it still run in mono? [00:41:47] of course [00:41:51] yuuuuuck [00:41:56] :D [00:42:01] CKAN does suck less on Linux. [00:42:17] There's code that lets you build a debian, and I have a Dockerfile that works for it as well. [00:42:49] apt-get install 'a debian' [00:42:50] the day when KSP is run on a phone.... we can talk about distractions while doing just about anything [00:43:29] hehe we've already established I'm on arch, .deb files aren't my preferred method of packaging [00:44:13] its not in the AUR? [00:44:24] CKAN? Maybe. [00:44:39] but that doesn't mean it's not just a garbage script that installs it in wine or something like that [00:44:47] madmerlyn: didn't you hear? we are in a post-package world where you run everything in Docker in the cloud [00:44:49] lots of questionable packages in AUR because well.. it's AUR :P [00:45:08] its in there. I just checked [00:45:28] yaourt says my CKAN is 1.22.6-1 [00:45:35] how old is that, 18 months? :P [00:46:09] I think its current [00:46:27] lol >yaourt -Ss ckan: aur/ckan, aur/ckan-git, aur/fortune-mod-rickandmorty [00:46:36] oh I see, ckan is in the middle of rickandmorty [00:46:49] "Fortune quotes from Rick and Morty. GOTTA GET SCHWIFTY [00:46:51] ok I'm installing that [00:47:28] madmerlyn: why not install poney-say while you are at it :P [00:48:10] holy crap there are a lot of fortune packages [00:48:27] apparently getting quotes in your terminal is a really popular thing that people don't just write curl scripts for? [00:48:53] The quotes have to be assembled somewhere [00:54:15] for those wondering: https://github.com/erkin/ponysay [00:54:35] Action: madmerlyn facepalms [00:54:58] .... [00:55:47] I mean... the guy did create a utility to convert any ascii art into 'something-say'... [00:55:49] https://github.com/maandree/util-say [00:55:59] oh right, I was going to make a small MM script to add USI tether to all command modules [01:10:24] I was wondering why my station was moving by itself... [01:10:52] somehow, loading the station triggered loading the boot script for the kOS CPU [01:14:49] I'm rewriting my spaceplane script now [01:16:18] you know.. they joke about the ant engine in game... yet it does surpsing well with a probe core and a couple of oscar tanks. [01:16:20] ve2dmn, unpacking a craft always triggers kOS boot [01:16:37] JCB, it's great for the last stage of tiny things, yeah. [01:16:46] Sometimes I do an Ant + 2,3,4 spiders [01:17:00] I never use ant [01:17:08] if I want a 20 minute burn I'm going ion [01:17:22] madmerlyn, if it's 20m, then you should have used a Spark [01:17:30] exactly. [01:17:31] Ants are for tiny craft [01:17:56] lordcirth: I did not know that... I guess I'll add 'shutdown.' at the end of all my scripts [01:17:56] if it has an oscar it's not that tiny :P [01:18:07] do they have any smaller stock tanks than oscar? [01:18:11] coulda used spark but then your putting more weight into the engine portion.. [01:18:24] I'd probably spark if I need the extra twr for landing somewhere [01:18:50] madmerlyn, there is the tiny toroidal tank, that's it [01:19:16] isn't the toroidal bigger than oscar? [01:19:37] huh... with two tanks, ant engine, was only 5 minute burn to mun orbit [01:20:00] its bigger by only 50 percent more I think? [01:20:16] oscar+toroidal = the first FL tank [01:21:00] ... I think... [01:21:02] Apparently it is 150% the Oscar-B's size [01:22:57] ok ya.. 18 fuel on oscar, 27 turoid, 45 FL-T100 [01:26:26] also.. wish I knew about the aboslute/relative offset setting earlier... >_> [01:28:07] JCB, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVsBNzJ97I8 [01:28:08] YouTube - 7 BASIC TIPS & TRICKS to get better at building stuff in Kerbal Space Program (KSP Tutorial) [01:28:52] its ok.. thanks though. Found out about it through some other video [01:30:59] the lack of ability to go from 1 to 4 and then from 4 to 1 again annoys me to no end [01:31:04] There's a lot of good stuff in there that I didn't know about [01:31:12] ve2dmn, what do you mean? [01:31:26] 1 quad stack adapter [01:31:45] 4 science jr [01:31:50] then another adapter [01:32:07] only 1 out of 4 on the second adapter will be connected [01:32:49] ve2dmn, oh, right. Yeah KSP stores parts as a tree. [01:32:50] ya.. when you reverse the stack... 4 into one.. [01:33:02] its just how the game works in only being able to branch out, instead of together [01:33:04] Can't have loops [01:33:12] JCB: if you put docking ports it works, but it's not elegent [01:33:34] heh.. depends on how you do it.. ports aren't exactly strong either [01:33:40] I don't want loop, I just want struts [01:33:47] game complains too when you use ports as decouplers... [01:34:18] my six pack tourist rocket.. I just put stuff on to a centeral spine.. [01:34:27] er six.. 12 pack.. [01:34:57] Even cheaper "rescue" rocket: http://www.bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot74.png . Just to get control of the stranded and let it deorbit and land with the jetpack. Hot Kerbal during deorbit :) http://www.bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot73.png [01:36:33] Is there a fix for the tilt of rockets when controls at launch get ready? [01:36:42] That's annoying. [01:36:50] Messes up my launch angle. [01:37:12] depends on the tilt.. is it standing on just the egines? [01:38:19] No, on a stability enhancer as in the pic. [01:39:07] eh.. looks like it was just placed that way. [01:39:10] That one's at 15 deg but may get down to 20 deg after the tilt. [01:39:18] oh.. [01:39:25] put a launch clamp on either side [01:39:33] yeah. But want to save money :) [01:39:38] they can hold up, but they do bed easy [01:39:42] you get them back after [01:39:46] I believe.. [01:39:52] checking ... [01:40:03] sides.. they only 200 [01:40:16] ugh you really /that/ broke in game? [01:40:59] testing no canard design on the full size 55t capacity Gallahad now [01:43:27] JCB: Yeah, I got it bck. [01:43:47] yeah.. that didn't work so well [01:45:58] ugh ok.. so .. 5 engines might be a bit too much for this Mk1 pod launcher... trying 3.. [01:46:29] looks like doing somethign similar to mercury-atlas launch minus vernier engines mid body [01:47:13] JCB: Ok, there is still a bit of a jerk at launch, but less. [01:50:35] with an angle like that.. I'd just put them to the sides. [01:50:55] Where the fins are now? [01:51:08] I need the fins there. [01:51:26] I could attach them to the fins, but that's ugly. [01:51:31] also... weird I'm getting better preformance out of my booster when take away fuel in the design... [01:51:44] well ok maybe not so weird.. just means I initially had too much fuel, slow launch [01:51:50] Wait, taking out fuel of solid fuel boosters ...? [01:51:57] also cutting down two engines makes it more effiecent [01:52:06] not using solid boosters [01:52:18] doing something of a mercury-atlas design [01:52:24] Ohh, wow, there are solid controls. Fuel and thrust limiter. [01:52:37] SRB controls [01:52:39] it uses a 1.5 stage design. [01:53:24] I won't need ballast any more :). [01:54:25] Why didn't anyone tell me when I said I used a micronode as ballast. [02:02:47] if you clip vernors completely inside a nose do they still work? [02:03:45] parking a trailer in the dark is fun [02:05:46] not sure... [02:06:00] I know tail fins don't work if stuck behind jet engines.. [02:06:50] *except rapier [02:11:35] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQbZ-a8xn0U - yep I recorded it. [02:11:35] YouTube - Acer Aspire One from 2008 loads up Lubuntu [02:13:19] darsie, you never right-clicked on an SRB? [02:13:45] wait till darsie finds out about advanced tweakables :O [02:14:23] Draconiator, if you want to obsessively optimize, try running 'systemd-analyze blame' and 'systemd-analyze critical-chain' [02:15:12] wtf man-db.service, why you so slow. [02:15:32] gzip and gunzip of man files is very slow [02:16:30] man-db runs on a schedule, so it should only run on boot if you haven't rebooted recently [02:17:27] Also, not everything 'blame' shows actually occurred during boot [02:27:57] so no canard Gallahad-L can do 18t to orbit easily, but it struggles with 22.5t on takeoff [02:28:14] I'm thinking I might have to adjust the engine configuration to get payload capacity back up into mid 20s [02:31:14] I'm guessing because you have more weight up front, control surfaces can't put enough force to rotate the craft [02:31:52] maybe worth seeing if you can get your payload area centered over the CoM area a bit more. [02:50:28] lordcirth: If I did I forgot. [02:50:45] madmerlyn: Is that a mod? [02:50:53] darsie, no, it's a setting [02:51:02] They hid some of the stuff to be less scary [02:51:06] ok [02:53:02] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:06:18] scary... overwhelming... eh [03:17:22] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [05:04:26] Last message repeated 3 time(s). [05:04:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [05:08:21] ISS Urine Tank Level: 58% [05:11:26] cringe: when it goes down is it because they're recycling it back into water [05:11:47] more than just water [05:11:58] also air [05:12:07] soon.. it'll have beer in it [05:12:15] or.. used beer... [05:12:27] beer is a beer, in space [05:12:46] space beer [05:13:06] not so sure I like the idea of fizzy water or alcohol in space... [05:13:19] gas bubbles might get confused with lack of gravity [05:13:40] also, better out the attic than out the basement [05:15:04] no jimmy neutron fans i guess [05:15:45] JCB: but there's no German capsule. Need more Astro Germans for iss beer [05:15:46] post holidays .. I'm guessing people still out of sorts. [05:15:56] They got Italians up there and an espresso machine [05:16:54] ugh.. I keep wanting to record something but... a little unsettled on this rocket's preformance... stage fright I think? [05:19:04] Your rocket isn't up to my arbitrary standards! [05:19:11] Action: TheKosmonaut smashes the dislike button [05:42:46] blep... [05:46:48] last workday [05:46:49] ! [06:00:20] Gasher[work]: until when? [06:00:28] until 9th [06:07:27] Hello!, [06:14:14] HsPanda: hi [06:15:08] Gasher[work]: that's a pretty good amount of time [06:15:16] yes [06:19:53] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:49:47] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:41:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:57:29] OK, so how would I get the Mach number in Kerbins atmosphere given an altitude and a velocity? Should be possible, shouldn't it? [10:04:26] i thin, you can calculate it from dynamic and static pressure [10:04:36] just do as any real adc does [10:11:45] cant you ask the game for it? i mean in a simulator this would be available from the aero module [10:12:02] and obviously the game has to know it because of the jet velocity curves [10:19:06] I cannot really, because kOS does not expose this info [10:19:48] I think I managed to get every parameter I need to calculate it, except for the temperature - and there you go, because I have no idea how to get /that/. [10:23:13] I need to know the density at a given altitude somehow. Apparently you can get it if you are at the particular spot, but you cannot really get it in advance [10:23:23] and again, the game obviously has that too, because that is what the science istrument delivers [10:23:57] But this is kOS, not the game :P [10:24:02] but that may be oat, which may not be what you want [10:24:34] if the scirpting language does not give you this, it is obviously flawed. mods can access it [10:24:48] at worst you could make an extension of kos to handle it [10:24:59] The scripting language exposes a whole lot of things, but not everything [10:27:20] I guess I'll just have to gather atmospheric temperature data, then... [10:27:43] Or pester ve2dmn about it, he had a setup for that yesterday [10:28:15] there is a temperature diagram on th wiki for kerbin [10:28:39] Yeah, but I can't really use it to read out data for further calculations [10:28:52] but actual temperature is also dependent on time of day [10:30:07] FAR gives you mach number [10:30:10] ... or I just ignore the whole Mach number thing and assume the rockets Cd * A to be constant, which is almost is in the range that I care about [10:30:16] In the ranges* [10:30:43] oh for kOS [10:30:45] no idea [10:30:59] Because I care about far supersonic and far subsonic only, the transonic part is exactly /the/ one part that I don't need to calculate [10:53:05] Ugh, so I do this approximation, and the next thing I get is dynamic pressure... And it also needs the density [10:53:24] Like a slap in the face, "No, you're not gonna circumvent this problem!" [10:55:21] You know what, I'll just take a value out of this table that is approximately in the middle of the area I need, and assume it is constant [10:55:46] Calculating things with missing parameters for the formula is no fun [11:46:57] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:57:06] Was nuclear pulsed propulsion ever tested as a ful ship design/ [11:59:23] No, never. That would require setting off nuclear bombs [11:59:36] They did that a lot. [11:59:37] Many nuclear bombs, even [12:00:16] Well, they did not test it as a form of propulsion [12:01:14] Wouldn't they be relatively dirty because really huge bombs use up fuel better and small bombs have more waste? Or is it more nuanced than that? [12:02:15] was anything explosive ever tested as a form of propulsion? (other than the obvious) [12:04:18] sandbox, yes - the ICBM technology was planned to put a satellite in space [12:04:27] what's the obvious? They did try a bomb rocket thingy in like the 60's [12:04:31] Not ICBM [12:04:47] the massive gun thing [12:05:08] Epi, fuel [12:05:28] hmm maybe the footage i'm seeing now is the same nuclear Project Orion one [12:08:49] I don't think the ISP of explosives could surpass dedicated rockets. [12:09:09] Nukes are kind of the exception as they have absurd energy in tiny amounts of mass. [12:09:25] And we don't have a closed cycle fully nuclear rocket yet. [12:09:45] Nuclear Salt Water and Nuclear Pulsed and nuclear thermal are what we have right now. [12:09:57] I think nuclear salt water can be done with current tech. [12:11:02] What's the benefit of the salt in the water? [12:11:23] It's nuclear fuel in a liquid and when you put two pipes to one pipe it goes critical and basically explodes. [12:11:46] So you have a nuclear explosion shooting H2O out the back. [12:12:11] I think that's how it goes. [12:12:23] I'm not sure why the word salt is in the name. [12:12:41] Because nuclear salts, got it [12:13:06] In chemistry, a salt is an ionic compound that can be formed by the neutralization reaction of an acid and a base. [12:13:08] Salt = ionic bond, mostly happens between metals and non-metals [12:13:30] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_salt-water_rocket [12:13:47] the rocket would be fueled by salts of 20 percent enriched uranium or plutonium. [12:15:23] I think NSWR is possible with current tech. [12:15:40] NPP certainly is. And NTR certainly is. [12:17:09] "[...] the exhaust would [...] be travelling [...] faster than Solar escape velocity, [...]" [12:17:19] Action: APlayer googles solar escape velocity: 617.5 [12:17:22] km/s [12:17:32] Not bad stuff, there [12:17:58] It's an interesting idea. [12:19:13] We really need orbital shipyards so we can send up and use stuff that nobody would want going off in their own country. [12:20:32] Do railguns scale forever based on rail length? [12:20:52] Like a 10km long railgun would be 10x better than a 1km long railgun? [12:30:06] probably not in atmosphere [12:30:27] and the rails erode because of the contact with the projectile and that is worse by its speed [12:31:01] but what if you use magnetic rails? ;) [12:40:13] What if your rails are 1337 and indestructible? [12:40:58] they need to be in contact with the projectile so that an electricalcurrent can flow [12:41:22] the problems with railguns to space is: Almost everything will burn up, before it reaches space... [12:41:22] what if they are not solid? like plasma [12:41:27] and you can't make orbit with it either [12:42:21] heh it is few minutes past leet time [12:43:49] what, railguns to space, that is crazy [12:44:03] cargo needs to be g force tolerant [12:44:11] and there is a need for an ablative heat shield [12:58:50] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:01:23] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fission-fragment_rocket#Dusty_Plasma "With exhaust velocities of 3% - 5% the speed of light and efficiencies up to 90%, the rocket should be able to achieve over 1,000,000 sec Isp." [13:04:00] This whole article is pretty amazing [13:07:50] what is this? i want one [13:08:54] this is around as efficient as the epstein drive in expanse [13:09:06] it would open up the solar system [13:11:39] APlayer, and yet 10 years on since the source was written, where is the technology now? [13:15:46] I guess this isn't the same thing? https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/nasas-plasma-rocket-making-progress-toward-a-100-hour-firing/?comments=1 [13:16:47] that was vasimr [13:16:58] not exactly nasa but they pay for it [13:21:15] I think it says as much in the article [13:23:40] Deddly: Aerospace is slow [13:24:21] And even slower if you don't have a working prototype to show off, because nobody wants to risk billions of research funds for some piece of technology that may not even work in the end [13:24:56] I want to waste billions of research funds on tech that might not work [13:24:58] Also, nuclear rockets pose a whole new set of problems you don't have to deal with from a purely technological standpoint, because everybody is afraid of nuclear things [13:26:04] Deddly: Alright, please waste a few billions of research funds on me, I want to research if I can reach Mars by jumping really hard [13:26:09] OK [13:26:24] Begin [13:26:46] Too dangerous, I could break through the ceiling [13:26:52] I need funds for a helmet first [13:27:41] hehe [13:31:08] We'll add a little extra in the #KSPMods monthly pay for channel ops [13:41:16] nice where do i apply [13:45:38] Squad HQ, please send a full application including CV and personal information before the end of the year [13:46:23] hehe [13:50:12] In triplicate [13:51:45] don't forget it also has to be in at least 3 of their supported languages as well [13:51:49] vogons? [13:52:13] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbN1NaQ7yQI [13:52:14] YouTube - Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy-Vogons [14:00:45] hell no lol [14:01:26] just because the article contained triplicate [14:02:20] https://i.imgur.com/WygP4Jv.jpg [14:02:26] Getting closer and closer [14:02:35] My prediction is still right tho [14:02:40] No launch in 2016 [14:04:10] :D [14:23:12] TheKosmonaut, I could have told you 12 months ago there would be no launch in 2016 [14:23:48] Deddly: yeah I could have told you 13 months ago! [14:24:04] also. Yes how I see my blunder [14:24:14] :P [14:24:27] I predicted no launch in 16 too. [14:24:46] Meanwhile some crazies have been saying this is the year since like 2012 [14:24:47] TheKosmonaut: Well, could you have told it with certainty? [14:25:10] How could you know Musk had no secret underground hangar where he already had a dozen FHs ready for flight? [14:25:28] APlayer: I could have. Because I am just very pessimistic regarding SpaceX and their timetables [14:26:07] Well, that's subjective, and has no place in a scientific community such as ours :P [14:26:23] This year was the first year where I thought it was possible but I held me ground [14:26:47] TheKosmonaut, What's your prediction for 2018? ;) [14:27:05] Deddly: well I don't doubt a launch in Q1 for FH [14:27:13] Since they have the hardware in place [14:27:18] Think it'll work? [14:27:22] I don't think it'll work [14:27:24] Well, true that, Elon is a bit optimistic with his time management. But what, IMHO, sets his companies apart from others is that he sooner or later actually does what he promised [14:27:46] Whether it's a complete failure or a failure to hit the desired trajectory is something I can't really place [14:28:01] No other aerospace company is making leaps such as SpaceX, despite them clearly missing their deadlines [14:28:09] I think what sets his companies apart from most others is that they are not only about making money - that is one major difference that is either good or bad depending on your perspective [14:28:53] I feel like it's 50% about his hobbies and not money :D [14:29:20] How many people are there actually planning on making a moon base just because this is the future and it would be cool? [14:29:41] SpaceX worries me with their QC [14:29:45] they cut corners [14:29:46] Pretty much half of NASA, I guess [14:29:54] The DOD ripped them apart in a recent audit [14:29:56] QC? [14:30:04] enough struts but it will be so funny when the boosters hit the core :) [14:30:16] See here https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/CoZ3mndR/dod+spx+audit [14:30:19] I just hope that Tesla Roadster doesn't get smashed [14:30:35] eh... [14:30:44] rest assured it will :) [14:30:50] big boom [14:30:57] big bada boom :) [14:31:21] What's that from, TheKosmonaut? [14:31:23] "we found bottles of soda and personal items in FOD-controlled areas" [14:31:25] they could have at least thrown on an experimental ion thruster and some solar panels for science [14:31:32] Deddly: the US Dept of Defenfe [14:31:34] ...uh, name me a company that doesn't do such things? [14:31:37] Defense [14:31:51] defenfe :) covfefe :) [14:31:55] TheKosmonaut, it reads like a Risk assessment [14:32:05] https://media.defense.gov/2017/Dec/22/2001860659/-1/-1/1/DODIG-2018-045_REDACTED.PDF [14:32:15] Post failure investigation, more like [14:32:40] APlayer: nah. It was from june 2016 to March 2017 [14:32:54] I was replying to Deddly [14:33:07] Oh [14:33:17] "it reads like a Risk assessment" - "Post failure investigation, more like" [14:33:36] Nobody said you could address The Deddly directly [14:33:49] Do not look The Operator in the eyes [14:34:00] That's true. TheKosmonaut, ask him who gave him the right to do that [14:34:08] Deddly is now Theodore's worriedly know assessor [14:34:12] ... [14:34:19] What the heck Gboard [14:34:33] TheOppressorFormerlyKnownAsDeddly* [14:34:49] Gboard may not address me directly [14:35:19] Action: Judge_Dedd frowns at everybody [14:35:21] Deddly is a bipedal ape like mammalian just like the rest of us [14:35:37] Action: APlayer judges Deddly [14:36:06] I've just had an idea.... [14:36:10] It's OK, I'm merely Theodore's worriedly know assessor [14:36:10] What if I do [14:36:14] Just because he also possesses gills and has been determined to be from Europa's subice oceans, doesn't mean we need to be alarmed by his Armada in orbit [14:36:50] Us ops are just like you... The people [14:36:50] TheKosmonaut, I told you not to mention that armada. [14:37:08] Now, please. Continue to bring us tribute [14:37:19] Judge_Dedd: I apologize, oh benevolent one. [14:37:34] the report makes me think Space-x sorta starting to slack off a bit in operations [14:37:40] TheKosmonaut, as long as you don't mention any of the other ones, I think we got away with it. [14:37:55] Judge_Dedd: not even the tiny submarine fleet? [14:38:07] JCB: more like SpaceX has always been like this [14:38:18] TheKosmonaut, I want that kept under wraps until the big day, so as not to spoil the surprise [14:39:07] TheKosmonaut, did Elon get back to you to say if he wanted us to pick up the Tesla afterwards and sell it on Ebay? [14:39:23] Judge_Dedd: no. [14:39:28] He prefers Etsy [14:39:33] Or Alibaba [14:39:48] Hmm. He did pay us to let it into orbit though, so he's serious about this. [14:40:12] The fool. [14:40:14] Teething problems at Space-x much? [14:40:31] They're serious issues. [14:40:34] But issues that can be fixed [14:40:58] I mean... There was that clip of a spanner visibly floating about in space after the dragon separated from stage 2 of falcon [14:41:11] That guy was fired afaik [14:41:17] Issues regarding a noncompliance with AS9100C [14:41:21] Was it a spanner or a bolt? It was something [14:42:14] "There was that clip of a spanner visibly floating about in space [...] That guy was fired afaik" [14:42:25] Wait wait wati [14:42:28] Tomorrow's headlines: SpaceX fires spanner [14:42:32] There's a spanner in orbit? [14:42:33] Kosmo, was that audit caused by the COPV failure or unrelated but took note? [14:42:49] So we could literally throw a spanner in the works? [14:42:55] Iskierka: standard audit afaik [14:43:16] I believe ULA received one around the same period [14:43:32] ugh and get a call to run out.. good thing I didn't actually start working on something.... hasta [14:43:36] Also tomorrow's headlines: Spanner fired by SpaceX took revenge by hitting the ISS [14:44:01] APlayer: disgruntled spanners are the leading cause of ISS accidents and Kepler syndrome [14:44:20] Kessler [14:44:25] Not Kepler [14:44:51] hehe [14:44:53] Action: APlayer LOLs at "Kepler syndrome" [14:45:36] Did you ever see Gravity? George Clooney is killed by a spanner [14:45:42] Is that when you compulsively have to determine random object's orbits? [14:47:10] i was thinking the same :) [14:47:41] It's relieving to know I am not the only apparently crazy person in here [14:48:39] APlayer: you are [14:48:44] We are portions of your brain [14:48:56] Trying to deal with the fact that money of this is real [14:48:58] Argh, why do you do this to me? [14:49:02] Look behind you, Neo. [14:49:15] Go down the rabbit hole. [14:49:36] Such a great movie. Especially the first time I saw it. I don't know how well it holds up now. [14:49:43] Too bad they never did sequels. [14:50:06] So, what if the reality you know is actually a product of your imagination, while in fact you are a crazy person currently restrained to a hospital bed to prevent you from killing yourself or someone else? [14:50:06] hehe xkcd [14:51:20] Action: APlayer stops pondering about that. The thoughts cause headaches just like thinking about infinity [15:13:18] There is an xkcd for everything... is there an xkcd for referencing xkcd? [15:13:56] not really a self referencing kind of comic [15:14:05] Oh yes [15:14:15] there are several xkcd phones [15:14:28] Self-referencing comic: https://xkcd.com/688/ [15:16:31] Also self-referencing comic, although not xkcd self-referencing: https://xkcd.com/978/ [15:22:20] Is this text on xkcd new? "xkcd.com is best viewed with Netscape Navigator 4.0 or below on a Pentium 3±1 emulated in Javascript on an Apple IIGS [15:22:21] at a screen resolution of 1024x1. Please enable your ad blockers, disable high-heat drying, and remove your device [15:22:21] from Airplane Mode and set it to Boat Mode. For security reasons, please leave caps lock on while browsing." [15:22:41] Uh, it inserted the line breaks [15:25:50] netscape navigator. such memories [15:26:02] APlayer: from where? [15:26:19] xkcd, looks like it's on every page at the bottom [15:27:52] ha. the tiny 1point font [15:28:43] I have 40CAD in nintendo eshop credit... what should I buy? [15:54:05] APlayer, it's been around for at least a year that I reemember [15:54:30] Must have missed it until now [15:55:16] dammit... I'm very bad at making 'cars' and I keep roling around [16:04:37] found the issue [16:05:31] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:47:33] Lesson learned from this project: Set up your testing environment so, that you can test without headaches, even if setting it up costs a lot of time [16:49:51] Well, there you go [16:50:16] First test of a new part of the script, suicide burn starts, looking good and then I crash into this pod north of KSC [16:50:23] Why is that thing even there [16:50:34] North of the launch pad, that is [17:09:56] Kerbal reentering above KSC: http://www.bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot82.png [17:10:00] The monolith? [17:10:17] me? [17:10:26] darsie++ that is awesome. No, the monolith was to APlayer. [17:10:31] ok :) [17:23:49] lol that monolith has been there for a long time now. it became a bit bigger though [18:04:00] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:08:21] I think I can die happy, definately living in the future. hell, I think my television is more powerful than my first computer now heh [19:09:30] it has to be otherwise it wouldn't be able to spy on you [19:10:19] hehe [20:28:37] This is a modification to the liquid-core design which uses rapid circulation of the fluid to create a toroidal pocket of gaseous uranium fuel in the middle of the reactor, surrounded by hydrogen. In this case the fuel does not touch the reactor wall at all, so temperatures could reach several tens of thousands of degrees, which would allow specific impulses of 3000 to 5000 seconds [20:29:27] Raptor engine is like 350 seconds? [20:30:19] 375 vac [20:35:41] Gas core NTR: mid (or arguably upper) level ion Isp, low end chemical TWR. [20:39:47] What number of electrons are on the outer shell of an argon atom? [20:40:33] derp, 8 [20:51:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:51:51] Evening, Gentlemen. [20:52:28] hi [20:54:35] Supernovy's greetings [21:08:12] A Medusa Drive could theoretically be 50k to 100k Isp [21:09:24] so anyone know if IKAROS is still active? all I've been able to find was that it was *supposed* to come out of hibernation for the 5th time like.. 2 years ago [21:35:17] What is a medusa drive? Nuclear lightbulb? [21:35:23] You see the light you die? [21:38:02] :3 [21:46:17] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_pulse_propulsion#Medusa nuclear kite sail [21:55:38] Yup, like Orion but lighter and more surface area [21:58:17] They aren't using shaped charges, though. [21:58:23] Or are they but wider spread? [21:59:55] You still need to wrap the bomb in reaction mass, shaped would be better [22:20:06] caved in and got OPT just for the wings heh [22:20:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|zzzz' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:20:24] not using any of the super OP engines, but the wings are helping me reduce part count [22:20:41] and some of the cockpits are pretty neat [22:46:16] You can get B9 Procedural Wings as it's own mod on CKAN [23:24:56] https://i.gyazo.com/45de5c6e6e38eb6583ee12d6342f0f69.jpg FINALLY finished my reorganization of my gaming cabinet. Incidentally most of those consoles are on my table now that it's free of junk. [23:29:01] nice :) [23:33:52] Draconiator: I am jealous [23:34:19] My parents would not let my own any console, so I was 'stuck' with a C64 [23:38:58] my parents got sick of having to shell out cash for new consols what seemed like every year. [23:40:33] apparently there's a bit of an small 8bit consol revival in recent times [23:40:48] yes [23:44:50] was looking at an atari 7800 at a local store, but they not sure why its not working. I told them I'd buy it anyways.. [23:45:43] BTW.. if you still that C64 on hand.. 8-bit guy recently did a homebrew RTS game for it that he's selling now. [23:48:47] JCB: I saw that [23:48:58] I don't have the C64 anymore [23:49:06] sold it when I was 16 [23:53:07] I got a video card to play Simcity 2000 instead [23:54:17] heh... original simcity on c64... well , played on a friend's box [23:54:46] I didn't have that. I learned of the existance of that version in a book. [23:55:07] I was disapointed. I would have probably played it a lot more then the DOS version [23:55:21] (which is the first game I bought with my own money) [23:58:09] btw, I have now atteint peak cat ownership. My cat has a cat [23:58:45] I also played origina simcity on PC-DOS... was my first intro to window'ing type systems prior to windows itself.