[00:05:27] Action: Tank2333 rolls [00:11:23] bluh. I can't get this space shuttle to work. [00:12:50] Realism achieved? [00:13:27] Hey, it didn't fail THAT many times. ;p [00:15:04] Hmmmm. Alllllllmost enough SAS. Even if that's not how I wanted to fix this. <_< [00:56:26] MORE reaction wheels! [00:57:29] so i'm out of science on the mun and minmus i think :/ [00:57:31] what todo [01:03:23] Go to Duna? [01:03:37] another world is whole level harder than moons [01:03:55] yeah, install a life support mod and then take 5 Kerbals to Duna [01:03:59] whole new ball game [01:04:14] Rolf: True, but there's not exactly anywhere else to go, unless mischief1 hops around biomes on Kerbin first. ;p [01:04:34] thats pretty simple. super effecient plane and hop around [01:04:45] theres 4 biomes right near base [01:05:05] base biome, grassland, unknown (forgot) tiny border, then finally beach [01:05:14] well one problem is i can't fly planes to save my life [01:05:26] I ont know if there is another biome in water, if even gettable [01:05:26] i think i just built my first working rover, so i could go around in that. [01:05:41] Rolf: but that's not much science is it? [01:05:55] i already got some several thousand science from mun and minmus.. [01:05:55] planes is simple with sas. just point back down to horzional once a while [01:06:16] supereffecient planes almost fly by itself [01:06:41] longer body, huge wings. small motor (it'll barely take off) [01:06:47] it'll last forever [01:07:46] for harder biomes like mountain you just use rocket short hop [01:09:41] ... I kind of want to just drive a rover all around Kerbin now. [01:09:56] much safer than mun river driving lol [01:10:16] I overdesigned a rover once, and it spent more time flying than driving [01:10:21] or gliding [01:10:31] That's the best way to do it though. >:3 [01:10:39] crashed at hill side because couldnt stop as it wasnt even touching ground [01:11:22] my nephew made a self-correcting rover because it kept flipping lol [01:11:37] used one landing leg and nozzles [01:11:47] my rover flips beautifully [01:13:15] hm [01:13:20] i wonder how to get it to stop flipping [01:14:33] heh heh heh [01:15:30] lower weight mass, if failing that, wider stance [01:16:02] yea im making it wider [01:16:14] the not-rockomax micronode is weird :/ [01:16:18] i can't mirror around it [01:17:15] wish its possible to have "make a rover kit", it'd be possible if kerbins could build stuff [01:17:22] given they have materials of course [01:17:32] that's what the "Ground Construction" mod does! [01:17:46] https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/154167-143-ground-construction-2/ [01:18:34] DIY KIT Hanide with care! lol [01:18:47] GRRRR [01:18:57] [sic] [01:18:58] i can't set mirror symmetry mode >:( [01:19:00] wtf [01:19:08] mischief1: Shift+R? [01:19:19] it's just r [01:19:30] but when i set it and try to place the part, it's forced back to radial [01:19:33] i don't want radial [01:19:35] Ahh, okay. [01:20:25] I thought you might've ended up switched by accident. [01:20:41] ... I feel like I should be making a box truck with these structural panels instead of an all-terrain rover. >_> [01:21:04] i'm still really baffled how anyone makes a useable rover [01:21:16] the parts leave something to be desired, and placing them correctly is painful [01:21:23] Kerbal Foundries. [01:21:34] Well. Depends on what you mean by rover, because I typically end up making tanks. >_> [01:21:38] https://i.imgur.com/8KMgYTo.jpg [01:21:48] whenever i mouse over the octagonal strut, it goes to radial mode :/ [01:21:57] and i need that wheel in mirror mode obviously [01:22:04] Hrm. [01:22:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:22:17] hex is annoying like that [01:22:20] What if you remove it at the closest octogonal strut, and -then- try to mirror? [01:22:23] suggest square one [01:22:36] i.e. mirror wheel+strut+strut+strut around them middle? [01:22:55] Rolf: but the front wheels worked fine in mirror mode! [01:24:21] Epsilon: :| [01:24:24] that works [01:24:29] \o/ [01:24:36] making one wheel/strut and then detatching it and mirroring it [01:24:51] fun [01:25:11] https://i.imgur.com/y5iq3mu.jpg [01:25:37] looks good. where is mass center located at? [01:25:55] pretty much in the center :) [01:26:08] hmm better if bit lower but workable :) [01:26:12] in the micronodes [01:27:12] now i just need some science bits [01:27:38] fffffff- [01:27:45] mischief1: You cursed me with your symmetry problems. >;o [01:29:27] hehe [01:29:39] just remove it and then try to mirror ;-) [01:29:47] Already done. :V [01:29:59] It looks like the structural panels don't support symmetry around themselves? [01:30:04] behind, kerbin rover https://i.imgur.com/pHm47ko.jpg [01:30:11] for science! [01:32:08] looks reasonable. [01:32:19] if can add single RTG is night [01:32:21] *for [01:32:32] grumble [01:32:41] Action: Epsilon wants an RTG but doesn't -quite- have the science for it... [01:32:47] Which is the whole reason I'm building a rover right now. <_< [01:33:09] :) [01:33:18] solars do pretty good job anyway [01:33:34] yeah no rtg here yet. [01:33:43] i won't need them unless i try to go far out [01:33:48] i should be fine for duna and eve [01:37:02] one problem: this antenna is crap [01:37:59] or maybe i just need more batteries [01:40:45] lesson learned: don't go too fast [01:43:11] grr [01:43:21] Right, that's why I've always used spaceplane cockpits for rovers. [01:43:26] You can't put someone in a command seat. :( [01:43:44] hm? [01:45:38] I can't start a flight with someone in a command seat. [01:46:06] Hm, maybe I should redo this to use the planetary cupola as a base. I wonder if K&K has a piece with a cargo bay... [01:46:49] ooooo [01:46:56] Yes. Totally redoing this. <_< [01:50:10] i used to have a mod that contained a car, that you could use for kerbin science [01:50:29] that is probably horribly outdated by now [01:50:50] also, there's a lack of roads on kerbin [01:51:41] it didn't really help that i wanted to go to a place behind mountains [01:52:29] i was trying some easteregg mission [01:52:38] takes quite a while to drive anywhere [01:53:05] at 20m/s anyway :) [01:53:18] well, the time wasn't really the problem, but one wrong move, and everything explodes, and you have to go back to a quicksave [01:53:34] yeah [01:53:42] accidentally hit a ramp earlier at 15m/s [01:53:44] went boom [01:53:57] Epsilon: do same trick as I do, and have deteching cockpot [01:54:15] just get out, walk to rover, disconnect and off you go. much ligher which is a bonus [01:54:19] i was aiming for 30m/s, i think [01:54:42] at least on flat land, that works [01:54:48] oh hey physics warp works :) [01:55:11] i think the mod broke when they reworked how wheels work [01:55:28] Eh. The tracks already weigh 10t. The cockpit isn't going to hurt anything. <_< [01:57:57] huh [01:58:08] really easy to hurt yourself with physics accel on 'flat' ground [01:59:17] ... but obviously something can hurt the cockpit. [01:59:18] dammit [01:59:47] the ground isn't actually that flat most of the time [02:00:04] its gonna take ages to get to the mountains [02:01:07] and every corner potentially destroys your wheels [02:01:07] and you need like 3 star engineer to fix wheels [02:02:05] also, i then reached the mountains, and there weren't enough flat surfaces to go on [02:02:28] ... hahahahahaha [02:02:30] crap [02:02:53] Stuck like a turtle. [02:03:08] These tracks are great! They're reversible! [02:03:14] turn off reaction wheels on rovers [02:03:19] They'll work right side up or upside down! [02:03:28] Eddi|zuHause: can one at least get to the biome? [02:03:29] Unfortunately, SOLAR PANELS don't work the same way. [02:03:29] <_< [02:03:30] >_. [02:03:47] you can get to the mountain biome fine [02:03:51] me rn https://i.imgur.com/ZOGPwin.jpg [02:03:54] but i wanted to go BEYOND the mountains [02:04:15] I'm playing a 10x rescale mod. This is going to be just a -little- bit of a trip... >_> [02:05:27] Oh hey. I -do- have an RTG. [02:05:30] ... of sorts. [02:06:56] if you turn off reaction wheels, you're much less likely to flip over [02:07:19] ... I'm not sure I could put reaction wheels on this that are big enough to flip it over. [02:07:23] Or prevent it from doing so. >_< [02:07:25] my rovemate has no reaction wheels :) [02:08:04] It's 25t. I wasn't joking about the tank comment. ;p [02:08:35] can it refine ore? :) [02:09:03] the rovemate is somewhat terrible, because it makes the navball face the wrong way [02:09:30] you don't see the horizon, and the heading is completely wrong [02:10:12] ah yeah [02:10:20] there really should be a set heading thing in the VAB [02:10:25] like how you can rotate a part [02:10:28] rotate default heading [02:13:37] there are a few workarounds [02:14:21] Oooo. If I wanted to get really cute, I could just put a science lab in here too. >_> [02:14:44] hey! I can switch vessels while kerbals are on a ladder?! [02:15:14] when did they fix that?? [02:17:28] no idea, but i'm fairly sure that worked already in 1.3 [02:18:01] however, kerbals have the tendency to randomly slide off ladders [02:19:13] sometimes i wish there were security cable hooks, so you don't have to mess around with thrusters to get back to the pod [02:37:40] finally made it https://i.imgur.com/j89q8IM.jpg [02:37:59] nice [02:38:11] your rover is definitely nice and functional [02:40:23] didn't get a lot of science from the mission [02:40:29] but at least i have a working rover :) [02:40:43] maybe if i make it a bit skinnier i can fit it on a ship to the mun or minmus [02:41:38] hm [02:41:45] advanced motors or ion propulsion o.O [02:42:08] Oh come ON. [02:42:13] You've gotta be kidding me. [02:42:30] well, if all else fails [02:42:34] there's always HyperEdit [02:43:54] I need 1000 science to grab the node I was shooting for. [02:44:01] Went on a quick jaunt around KSC. [02:44:04] Here's the results: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uoauwxdw556a79s/KSP%20IS%20TROLLING%20ME.png?dl=0 [02:44:06] :I [02:44:51] I hate picture host sites that dont allow me to zoom in. [02:45:25] kerbin itself dont have much science I guess, but still, nice place to start from [02:46:25] I just want an RTG for my satellite. :( [02:57:37] does other base have science to be found? [03:00:13] Epsilon: take a strategy that exchanges $ for science and do a quick contract [03:00:18] shouldn't take long.. [03:00:51] what's the red/orange rep bar? [03:00:57] is your reputation really bad? [03:03:10] Yeah, I started at -1000. [03:09:25] o_o [03:10:09] It just makes for an interesting hole to climb out of. [03:10:46] peak programmer humour https://twitter.com/jtannady/status/981547257479778307 [03:10:46] I'm from the island of Java, Indonesia. Î Î I am the Java Garbage Collector. https://t.co/R5kfKYfP6c [03:11:05] what sort of jobs do you get with -1000 rep [03:11:13] what do they even trust you to do [03:11:22] Not many. :B [03:11:55] As far as stock, it was all milestone type stuff. [03:11:57] host world cup [03:12:00] Reach orbit, etc. [03:12:23] mabus: I know that's supposed to be funny, but I don't know why it is. :V [03:12:59] ... F1 is the screenshot key for KSP, right? [03:13:11] russia had that whole doping scandal during their 2016 olympics so it seemed kind of wild to have them host the world cup for soccer right after that [03:14:14] Oh, okay, it's a reference to TWO things I don't care about then. :V [03:14:32] ... that -is- a rather interesting choice though, assuming they have any sort of authority over the event as hosts. [03:16:00] Ah-hah. It -was- F1. [03:16:06] And here's the rover I'm piloting: https://www.dropbox.com/s/isur8rsk8xixjz7/screenshot101.png?dl=0 [03:16:29] It is a LONG trip to the foothills. >_< [03:17:26] took me 15/20 minutes to go from ksc to the nearby mountains [03:17:32] at 15-30m/s [03:17:53] with a rocket and careful driving you'd get there a bit faster :) [03:18:03] It's taken me about the same to get to the foothills (i.e. where the shores biome ends) at 60m/s. [03:18:06] whee rescale mod :V [03:18:42] oh. [03:19:25] I'm impatiently waiting for Sigma Dimensions to be out for 1.4.5. [03:19:39] Well, Sigma is waiting for Kopernicus, too. [03:19:46] Yeah, I just reverted to 1.4.3. [03:20:01] But also, it appears that -some- mods that were recompiled for 1.4.4 don't work. [03:20:07] Which isn't surprising, but is certainly annoying. [03:20:20] Yeah, I probably should try that, but I just finished installing all the *other* mods over a slow connection. [03:39:50] 43km from the grasslands to the shore (the corner, not the straight shot I admit) at 70m/s. [03:42:39] ... okay. Some of these missions aren't actually paying attention to my rep. o.o [03:42:45] "Launch Rover to Duna and Land" [05:49:05] ... oh wow, I'm dumb. 1.4.3 didn't disable NFP. I forgot to install it. -_- [05:55:16] yes, works better if it is installed :) [05:55:31] just as yesterday the kos scripts [06:04:31] heh heh [06:05:08] KSPI-E installs a lot of random crap. :I [06:05:26] Action: Epsilon pesters FreeThinker to ask what all the stuff is in the folder for. [07:07:02] https://imgur.com/LG0ZKLy [07:07:03] https://i.imgur.com/LG0ZKLy.jpg [07:07:16] hahahaha [07:07:23] these wheels seem alot stronger than they used to be [07:07:26] hehe [07:50:10] https://imgur.com/Kx8gvgy another 10 tourists [07:50:10] https://i.imgur.com/Kx8gvgy.png [07:50:47] so, you're better than BlueOrigin then. :D [07:51:12] I wonder how long I can make this design [07:53:04] probably quite long if you keep adding parachutes [07:53:11] but can you get enough passengers? [07:53:33] infinite [07:53:47] though you need infinite parts and parachutes so probably not [07:59:01] ok, trying it with 12 [08:28:04] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:25:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:41:48] hah where have you been [09:42:17] out because I was too lazy to register and stuff [09:42:30] Sorry guys :/ [09:42:37] It seems to be over now, though [09:44:29] there was no wintergatan upload either [09:44:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254984631512858634/472859829472460820/DSC_9379.JPG [09:44:58] the spambots are still doing their thing, but the message has changed [09:47:50] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o TheKosmonaut' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:53:52] https://78.media.tumblr.com/3bf12b3a34af5f6ae7b032151f94a17e/tumblr_p4at2aH30y1wsbn2ao1_540.jpg [09:54:56] I saw someone on tumblr go like "rejoice, nasa decided pluto is a planet again" [09:54:57] woah, they're actually checking my 4 year old bug report about gilly's terrain in map view being radically different to ship view.. if anyone's curious; https://bugs.kerbalspaceprogram.com/issues/1735 [09:55:32] i hit joolian moons while above the surface according to map [09:55:34] similar issue [10:02:29] 1.4.5 was really a minimalé change release. coupled with the mention of 1.5 in the previous devnote, they might be partially working on the next release already [10:07:33] seemed just like bug fixes [10:07:44] but very few of them [10:11:54] Awesome, Triffid_Hunter. Congrats [10:39:02] https://youtu.be/L2tc2r3jwhE?t=373 folding legs :D [10:39:18] Fluburtur: and then she got stuck :D [10:41:49] i linked this yesterday. yes they are floding slowly. but at least no more need to take them off as i used to be [11:02:08] Althego: I guess they'll speed this up, when they are confident, that it works [11:05:57] how do they clean up all the soot? [11:09:55] btw have you seen the new flite test forum challenge? [11:10:00] https://forum.flitetest.com/index.php?threads/draft-2019-fantasy-aircraft-design-build-challenge-guidelines.54574/ [11:10:19] fiction aircrafts, I suggested the theme and peoples went with it so that's cool [11:10:26] what, no nausicaa plane? [11:10:51] I remember last year's challenge, some peoples already had flying protos before the challenge was officially started [11:10:57] dude made a plane in one week [11:13:07] Althego: they wont. [11:13:27] but then the rocket gets heavier with each launch [11:21:54] Maybe give it a power wash [11:22:08] but I don't think that they'll do more [11:48:06] time to start yet another complex plane project [11:48:11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254984631512858634/473087885013286912/falken.jpg [11:48:38] now that you have 3dprinting [11:48:53] only a few parts will be printed [11:48:59] will mostly be foam and cardboard [11:49:16] it's for the flite test forum challenge so anyone needs to be able to make one from plans [11:50:14] and even if I make it at 1/12 sclae it will be 2 meters long [11:50:19] because the real one is supa big [11:51:24] I will try to get a profile prop slot version done int he next few days to prove it can at least fly before making the more complicated one [12:29:28] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:00:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:21:32] "The Cub is the safest airplane in the world; it can just barely kill you" [13:46:01] o/ [13:46:09] Oups [13:46:14] lel [13:46:24] There we go [13:46:30] Zup Fluburtur? [13:46:42] im working on too many complcayed projects [13:47:06] luckily I have until february to finish the most difficult one [13:47:11] Hehe. How's your rocket engine/plane going? [13:47:21] no progress since last time [13:47:44] Ah, okay. What else are you working on? [13:47:55] lemme show you [13:48:00] you have seen the vg33 right? [13:48:10] this is the other one https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254984631512858634/473087885013286912/falken.jpg [13:49:27] Oooh, nice! [13:49:44] for the flite test forum challenge [13:50:25] Noiss [13:51:04] Fluburtur: oh btw, did I show you my RO Mars mission yet? [13:51:11] no [13:52:29] Fluburtur: https://imgur.com/a/dB5yE4R [13:53:20] nice [13:53:28] Thx [13:56:26] Sooo, you getting this heatwave aswell? [13:56:59] yeah [14:00:11] Heh. It's absolutely murderous... [14:00:42] I also have the 3d printer running all the time so even more heat [14:06:32] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+vv bathtub_shark Zarthus ' by calamity.esper.net [14:08:12] BadRocketsCo: Is that all you show people of your mission? [14:08:20] Action: APlayer wants MOAR pics [14:12:12] APlayer: Ares I Propulsion Stage https://imgur.com/a/UB4gBIy [14:13:03] Yay! Thanks! :D [14:14:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v bathtub_shark' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:15:32] Ugh [14:16:19] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v Zarthus ' by calamity.esper.net [14:16:26] There, back [14:18:03] APlayer: anyway, that's all I have I am afraid :D [14:18:27] No problem. Will have to produce some images myself then :P [14:20:21] haha [14:20:35] i kinda want prop planes in ksp [14:20:42] https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/004/208/494/large/christian-pearce-battlesandwich-pearce.jpg :) [14:22:49] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v Zarthus ' by calamity.esper.net [14:26:23] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v bathtub_shark' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:54:18] https://i.gyazo.com/3d097874967fcb1db97b82b8035bd067.png - lol, I guess modern computers depreciated these things heh [14:55:14] i have never seen a 720 kb disk [14:55:19] 1.2 m or 1.44 m [14:58:59] Whoa whoa [14:59:02] 720kb? [14:59:11] what would you ever need that much storage for? [14:59:11] yes supposedly they existed [14:59:32] 640kb shhould be enough for everybodY? [14:59:45] You could fit like 1000 books on that [15:00:29] Let me just spool up my hard disk [15:00:34] it is a whopping 2mb [15:05:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:15:12] I sort of typoed the drive letter too once....Ahhhh I'm still me lol [15:22:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254984631512858634/473148174685700097/DSC_9382.JPG [15:25:34] trying out a method of hinge or this a repair? [15:26:35] im just makign the tail of a plane [15:26:43] all the control lines will be hidden inside [15:29:05] asking if repair because I've a few foam hinges that snapped on me.. [15:29:22] fiber tape works good [15:29:33] ok [15:32:18] pair of Flyzone Millennium Masters been in storage, took a bit of damage from being through a number of moves. :\ [16:01:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/473158012819996672/20180729174427_1.jpg [16:24:09] um.. whoops? [16:25:48] challenge, build a doorway above a helicopter (with spinning blades for hard mode) [16:29:33] build..? Here I thought someone slide the heli in under the frame by accident [16:40:23] axl looks like a cross of short circuit and some dog movie [16:43:20] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibeon_(meteorite)#/media/File:Widmanst%C3%A4tten_pattern_kevinzim.jpg [16:55:02] is it kryptonite? [17:01:19] I thought I may have fever so I measured and the thermometer said 90 degrees https://twitter.com/tatsusoccer0907/status/1023568664371462144 [17:01:19] ±c}DK‰S),Fhc_‰90¦`c_ https://t.co/9JaZb0kPwE [17:01:48] looks broken [17:01:52] in what units? [17:02:10] japanese use si, so c [17:04:19] I am pretty sure that thermometer is only good for degrees of angle now [17:04:34] ah it was a joke [17:05:02] thats so 'rad' [17:05:07] heh [17:05:13] si... [17:06:34] sigh... not spanish.. oops [17:10:59] must be silicon then :) [17:13:43] speaking of, last thing I did at my job was a series of very difficult to build thermometers [17:13:57] that are made to correct refractometer readings [17:14:51] we can see you badrockets [17:39:33] https://youtu.be/5ZpFVARvo5w [17:39:33] YouTube - elevator music [17:42:09] this is what i always think of when reading elevator music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdsXggne6sA [17:42:10] YouTube - Return of the Jedi - Missing Elevator Scene [17:42:50] lmao [17:45:50] https://forum.flitetest.com/index.php?threads/f14-build-and-aluminum-build.54610/#post-423288 [18:04:50] https://youtu.be/RQGa0DPwes0 [18:04:50] YouTube - A calculator made from rollercoasters in Rollercoaster Tycoon 2 [18:05:22] there are some really sick people [18:05:32] That's amazing. [18:16:04] wow.. [18:16:09] sick as in good or bad c.c; [18:16:31] I'd say "yes" [18:16:46] You've definitely got some weird issues if you do stuff like that, but it doesn't make it any less impressive. ;) [18:17:33] mm... I can build.. but probably not as good as I can 'fly' stuff. [18:17:45] the red guy once said in cow and chicken: corn cobb man? there are some really sick people in this town [18:17:49] er well... I don't know. I've meaning to put videos out [18:40:08] https://twitter.com/Casillic/status/1023597701676642304 [18:40:09] Nuclear Physics Made Very, Very Easy Î Space Nuclear Propulsion Office Î #Nuclear #Physics #Rockets #Space& https://t.co/f6Pz9pu6ZZ [19:01:50] in germany there's a law that if you cause a nuclear explosion, you get up to 5 years in prison (or a fine) [19:03:29] what if that's an intentional explosion [19:03:53] how many people have been sentenced to this? :) [19:04:46] if you can prove intent, you generally get double the penalty [19:05:36] Oh no! How am I going to dispose of my nuclear arsenal now? [19:05:50] how 'loosely' do they define nuclear? [19:05:52] outside germany [19:05:53] Guess I'll have to detonate it outside of Germany [19:06:04] or make a bigger one [19:06:38] APlayer: there's probably a law about exporting nuclear material that you violate in that case :p [19:06:57] I will not export it, I will launch it [19:07:04]