[01:05:30] https://78.media.tumblr.com/fa45c5c6698d3eb4670d1ba53fde6807/tumblr_oyhqhfsgqN1w064qto1_500.jpg [04:43:53] ? [04:48:26] Well, that's not a helpful question. [05:35:44] https://youtu.be/BGk6_KEFtLE [05:35:44] YouTube - Geek Spinner Demonstration [05:40:29] https://newatlas.com/shape-memory-alloy-rover-wheel-nasa/52344/ [06:07:05] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:25:54] Howdy! [06:32:21] Tere hommikust BadRocketsCo [06:34:20] Supernovy: heh, you times it right this time [06:34:25] timed* [06:37:59] Supernovy: how have you been, [06:38:06] pretty good [06:39:51] Noiss [06:43:39] Why is this an IRC and not a discord? :/ [06:44:05] because discord is overrated hipster thing [06:44:12] No it's not [06:45:35] you can have roles in Discord believe it or not [06:46:07] and? [06:46:20] You can chat and be in multiple servers and it has sleeker design [06:46:38] And ease of management is a big thing [06:46:43] sleeker design is a minus. i can do the others too on irc [06:47:01] well, management, sure, i dont run an irc server, true, it may be better in that [06:47:07] Well if you don't like a sleeker design, install a theme with a less sleeker design [06:47:36] anyway https://xkcd.com/1782/ [06:48:25] what does that mean? [06:48:59] that whatever your current chat system is, it will be at one point changed to an other one, except for irc, that will stay here forever [06:49:17] Discord will be here forever too [06:49:25] you think that now [06:49:30] And IRC is here because it's probably the most simple chat service [06:49:32] what happened to icq and msn? [06:50:06] The answer to the question is "Because some of the early adopters of KSP were also IRC users" [06:51:28] Also IRC just looks unnatractive [06:51:54] to me discord looks barely tolerable [06:52:07] :3 [06:52:18] How so? [06:52:31] how? it is ugly [06:52:39] also it is a browser app [06:52:52] install a theme for it that isnt ugly for you [06:52:57] THIS IS A BROWSER APP MATE [06:53:05] for you [06:53:12] but normal irc clients are not [06:53:33] I've used IRC in a browser exactly once, and for about 20 seconds [06:53:40] hehe [06:53:42] (just to check how to help someone else) [06:53:44] i liked chatzilla [06:53:45] Also, there is an application version on the home page of the website [06:53:47] and it is dead now [06:53:59] but even then it was a secondary client [06:54:23] Althego there is an application version of discord [06:54:37] that is the browser app packaged with a chrome browser [06:54:45] no it isnt [06:54:45] 32 bit... [06:54:48] it is [06:55:19] Oh and how would you know? [06:55:53] do* not would [06:56:09] https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i5-7400-Windows-TC-780-ACKI5/dp/B073YHNPC6/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1511938411&sr=1-1&keywords=Computer&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A13580791011 - looking at a complete upgrade, mine is horribly old now. [07:08:43] https://www.amazon.com/W5-Computer-Processor-Bluetooth-Supports/dp/B076D79KKN/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1511939227&sr=1-11&keywords=Computer&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A13580791011%7C13580793011 - WEIRD. [07:10:38] technically it's electron, not chrome, but same difference really [07:12:32] also the biggest problem I have with using discord by far is that when the internet cuts out for more than, like, five seconds, you stop being able to use the dang client [07:12:48] that's awful design with absolutely no excuse for it [07:15:22] IRC isn't ugly, though many clients "are" (very subjective:) [07:18:59] the irc protocol can be a tiny bit ugly haha [07:19:18] and who sees it normally? :) [07:19:26] fair point :) [07:19:35] if you try to irc through telnet... : [07:19:59] that would be a masochist :) [07:20:12] email via telnet is bad enough [07:45:58] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_cycle [08:36:56] did the vasimr engine progress anything in the last few years? [08:37:17] there were some statement that it would be tested on iss and used for reboost [08:37:26] but nothing happened [08:37:49] ok, there is the hofstadter law, but still [08:40:34] remind me, vasimr is just a variable-strength ion thruster? [08:40:49] something like that [08:41:19] it can have different efficiency and thrust levels and uses plasma [08:45:15] i found on wiki that they have a 3 year support from nasa, and they met the second year goal this year having 10 hours of operation on 100 kW [08:45:25] nothing more detailed [09:18:39] hah stratolauch has bigger wingspan than the spruce goose [09:31:31] that's scaled composites' new plane they haven't finished yet? [09:42:02] as i see them, they have nothign but new planes [09:42:34] wk2 and ss2 are still way off from doing a complete space flight [09:42:57] and honestly at this point it is pointless, spacex and blue origin is faster [10:15:12] I thought that was the Rok [10:15:34] Well suborbital hops are way cheaper. [10:15:57] And SpaceShipTwo is a tourist thing. Blue Origin is as well, right? [10:16:10] dont think so [10:16:29] but they will make it orbital in shorter time than scaled makes the commercial suborbital flight [10:16:47] Oh, Blue Origin is going orbital? [10:17:10] there is a reason they are developing the worlds biggest rocket engine [10:17:32] Orbital and suborbital are so different I didn't think they'd bother with one before the other. [10:18:07] Now when nobody had done orbital, it made sense to get experience with launches and rockets and landings and such. [10:18:22] Theyre definitely claiming to be on their way to orbital SHLV [10:18:45] That's quite a leap from a sub orbital rocket. [10:18:57] What heavyweight is pushing this? [10:19:27] So they are skipping light, normal, and heavy orbital vehicles entirely? [10:22:47] Blaank: Jeff Bezos and his Scrooge mcduck amounts of cash [10:22:54] amazon guy? [10:22:58] Yup [10:23:04] Its his company [10:23:12] amazon guy and paypal guy go into space business :) [10:23:16] And hes putting like 1B USD per year [10:23:22] Into BO [10:23:57] 2.4MN engine. IS that big? [10:23:59] And supposedly hes getting people that are burnt out by SpaceX long hours. [10:24:21] poaching overworked people is a good strategy. [10:25:22] If KSP were realscale I could take 2.4MN and figure out what engine that compared to. [10:28:44] o/ TheKosmonaut [10:28:59] BadRocketsCo: youre alive! [10:29:06] -ish [10:29:10] :D [10:29:34] School takes up a lot of time and I have taken a bit of a pause from KSP [10:29:44] Ha. Spoken like a true Baltic statesman [10:30:00] Indeed :D [10:30:05] Supernovy: ! [10:30:10] Also, I am now technicaly an adult [10:30:30] Hello Kalpa [10:30:58] Are wetas common where you're from? [10:31:28] Some kind of bugs. [10:35:52] BadRocketsCo: nice. [10:40:55] I've seen a couple make their way inside. [10:44:00] Supernovy: I've been playing a New Zealandean (?) videogame lately [10:44:32] New Zealander is the correct term, I think. I personally prefer 'New Zealandic' [10:45:12] They sold weta bugs as player pets [10:45:17] They were super cheap. [10:49:58] https://youtu.be/V4eb29e_tso [10:49:58] YouTube - Dangerous Christmas Laser Show Upgrade - 1000x Stronger [11:00:50] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAGxQIG-IPM [11:00:50] YouTube - Gregorian-Hell's Bells [11:03:12] eh action crashed upon closing the file [11:03:22] and thus somehow lost the whole video [11:03:27] that is evil [11:03:38] i would understand if i had lost the last few seconds [11:04:04] hell's bells? one of the thing harry dresden says all the time [11:05:17] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SvhLaHRvUs [11:05:17] YouTube - Gregorian - Boulevard of Broken Dreams [11:05:20] this band is good [11:05:41] also i had to force the resolution to be 2560x1440 again, because it vanished from the selection menu again [11:05:46] that may be the cause [11:05:57] youtube is broke [11:06:27] and yes, it is all because of youtube because they cant imagine anything else just 16:9 resolution [11:06:33] they dont understand the glory of 16:'0 [11:06:49] 16:0 ratio? yeah [11:06:55] 16:10 [11:07:02] just shift kept pressed [11:07:06] though one bit would be infinite in length [11:07:40] similar stupidity with vim, they chose : as the command char which makes me type upper case letters half the time [11:08:21] https://78.media.tumblr.com/1682e5845059ba4526952c8c53c78b2f/tumblr_o1sq54hyAz1qk4s2co1_540.png [11:08:35] now i have to find out the reason the resolution is missing, that owuld fix it [11:08:48] although it is obviously working it is not working with action [11:09:22] i had just enough time to finish this recording today [11:09:32] and no, it couldnt go smoothly [11:10:20] meanwhile the speakers are in their 3rd day of delivery [11:10:28] apparently impossible task to bring them there [11:10:54] https://i2.wp.com/www.geeksaresexy.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/doc1.jpg funny for the day [11:11:32] who are the guys at the bottom, [11:11:35] ? [11:12:19] doctor who [11:12:40] hehe it fails in normal resolution too [11:13:01] i have been designig and testing this mission for weeks [11:13:02] its pretty poor quality [11:13:38] maybe it is ksp [11:14:35] "people from florida and southern california cant touch ice cubes with bare hands because they will die of hypothermia" [11:14:37] is it true [11:15:23] probably nvidia driver [11:15:40] if they touch it long enough [11:15:57] and the cube is big enough [11:16:11] HUGE. [11:16:25] tremendous [11:16:30] best ice cube in the world [11:16:38] trust me, i know ice cubes [11:16:42] one like futurerama uses to cool world [11:16:50] yuge ice cube! [11:17:30] Althego: whats funny is that someone actually calculated that. yes, ice cube like that COULD reverse global climate change for a little bit [11:17:38] one cube a year [11:17:50] A Borg cube eh [11:18:07] hmm apparently i have nvec hevc too, let's try that [11:21:27] 16:16 resolution works pretty well for me. [11:24:39] That sounds a lot like 1:1 resolution [11:24:49] 1 pixel [11:24:56] the led display :) [11:25:00] single led in fact [11:25:04] man, parrots cursing like sailors are the best [11:33:38] interesting. https://interestingengineering.com/impossible-colors-and-how-to-train-your-eyes-to-see-them [11:33:43] it may even be the audio since it is going through the headphones (different "soundcard") [11:33:46] I could see that new color [11:33:55] takes a bit [11:51:11] haha the mp4 causes the unrecoverable problem [11:51:17] what causes the crash is differrent matter [11:54:03] obs records blackness [11:56:49] apparently it works with avi [11:57:05] then it is some codec thing [11:59:33] argh but with avi i cant use hw accekeration [11:59:50] that is why i was using mp4. which also means it is the fault of the nvidia driver [12:04:19] maybe i can try the software recording [12:04:23] see how that goes [12:04:44] but for years i used the hw acceleration without problem [12:08:57] man it's cold [12:09:02] but I need to build crap [12:13:29] 3rd day of waiting for the stuff [12:14:05] this time they didnt even update it in the tracking which is annoying since dor 2 days it was moving between a car and a warehaouse without ever reaching me [12:14:53] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:43:50] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:07:50] Hey Apexseals [13:07:52] er [13:07:55] Yes, I to you' [13:08:03] But I meant to say hi to APlayer [13:08:05] :) [13:08:24] Heyddly! :D [13:18:45] hmm, i have an idea, maybe if i try the shadowplay thing [13:28:48] Anyone else been enjoying (or at least watching) The Orville? [13:33:48] TheKosmonaut: I am [13:34:06] Alanonzander: What do you think of it? [13:34:12] I personally like ti [13:34:13] it [13:34:22] I like ti [13:34:24] I love it [13:34:34] I could use a cuppa right now [13:34:45] ST:disc... gouldn't even get through the first episode before wanting to turn it off. [13:35:25] well, shadowplay seems to work [13:35:50] however i wish it wouldnt do things i didnt ask it for, like createing directiories in the target dir [14:07:46] now that i can record, i have structural failer what i havent seen in testing [14:07:47] not once [14:12:13] Alanonzander: I actually really like Discovery. [14:12:31] And this is coming from someone thats probably spent an unhealthy amount of his life watching Star Trek [14:12:43] There are parts of it that Im not a huge fan of [14:12:59] Mostly that they needed to make it edgier by making them use language [14:23:25] ;/ [21:23:15] That graph is awesome. [21:32:34] Action: UmbralRaptor throws a dart at January 1, 2019. [21:36:39] I'd kinda like to know some of the math behind orbital modeling systems like Principia. [21:37:40] Hey, so I'm having some torque issues with a symmetrical craft [21:37:54] I would think that they would model stuff as conics with an adjustment factor added, right? [21:38:10] Hi dlrkdesktop. [21:38:32] Hey, tswett [21:38:58] I'm staring at this craft in the editor, with CoM, CoT all displayed, and I can't figure it out [21:40:16] What sort of issue is it giving you? [21:40:40] tswett: No, Principia does full numeric integration of the gravity of various planets / moons [21:41:12] I have four symmetrical radial engines, and I'm getting torque that's keeping it off-target [21:41:22] Unless I'm at a pretty low thrust [21:41:38] In atmosphere or out of atmosphere? [21:42:09] out [21:42:26] Are you sure your COM is at the symmetrical center of the engines? [21:42:45] I made a mistake like that once and it was pretty but unuseful. [21:44:49] check that you don't have any flight assist mods applying trim or other control adjustments, maybe? [21:44:56] when you say symmetrical center, what do you mean? Do you mean center of thrust? [21:45:29] tawny: Nope, that's not it [21:46:20] do these issues happen in space? [21:46:54] yep [21:46:59] hmm [21:47:05] Pics? [21:47:11] one sec [21:48:08] https://www.dropbox.com/s/83rlol256z4aeoq/screenshot3.png?dl=0 [21:49:11] How much torque is there, dlrkdesktop? [21:49:11] https://www.dropbox.com/s/snrszxblwpp7xv9/screenshot4.png?dl=0 [21:49:14] here's a top view [21:49:49] rcs build aid says .125 knm , but it's enough that it can't hold attitude with the engines running [21:49:54] Difficult to tell from that angle but is that CoM offset from the centre somehow? [21:50:11] dlrkdesktop: yes, center of thrust [21:50:24] mathuin: thanks [21:50:35] I apologize for the ambiguous terminology :-) [21:50:56] deddly: it looks like it in the top view, but the stock pod alone shows the same, so I don't know if it mains anything [21:50:58] no worries [21:52:49] Difficult to tell from that angle but is that CoM offset from the centre somehow? [21:52:51] oops [21:52:54] Ignore that [21:53:01] What I meant to say was: [21:53:10] no, if I use a bit of different it looks like the c/g is straight [21:53:38] different angle** [21:53:43] dlrkdesktop, can you exactly line up the long purple arrow from the CoT indicator with the CoM (top view) and take another picture? [21:54:05] sure [21:55:05] https://www.dropbox.com/s/b3lrmc9xntw5enx/screenshot5.png?dl=0 [21:57:43] Yeah that looks OK [21:58:00] do you get any torque when not thrusting, just sitting there in orbit? [21:58:55] nope [22:00:12] I'm not familiar with the engines there. Are they very high thrust? [22:01:44] The only thing I can think of is the antenna at the top being off-centre, or the engines not being exactly lined up as they should be [22:01:57] 90 kn each [22:02:23] Engines are lined up fine, there is no antenna on top [22:05:02] I wonder if partially this might been an issue with mechjeb [22:06:54] I thought that red line at the top-right was an antenna https://www.dropbox.com/s/83rlol256z4aeoq/screenshot3.png?dl=0 [22:07:00] Apparently not :) [22:07:09] Sorry I've no idea [22:07:31] oh, that's the stock shielded docking port [22:10:45] let's see if it'sbetter with the latest mj build [22:16:06] Time for me to go. I hope you find a solution :) [23:21:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:21:27] Evening, Gentlemen.