[00:00:08] <darsie> Impact explosion: https://i.ibb.co/M5kD71g/screenshot313.png
[00:10:02] <raptop> boom
[00:19:52] <darsie> That's the rocket (without fairing): https://i.ibb.co/7bNSb6D/screenshot315.png
[00:20:10] <darsie> Maybe with refuelling and optimized flying it can make it.
[03:54:06] <raptop> ;mission add You explain how the SAS knows where it is.
[03:54:06] <LunchBot> raptop: Added mission: You explain how the SAS knows where it is.
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[05:43:32] <Althego> heh starlink 17 launch date moved again
[05:43:46] <Althego> possibly 2 spacex launches on monday
[05:44:10] <Althego> and starlink 18 is also coming up
[05:46:22] <raptop> "Wait, what if we just stuck the later starlink payloads on a spaceship?" -- hopefully no one until the testing gets farther
[05:47:45] <Althego> you could put a few of the starlink sats on the dragon, in the external trunk
[05:51:08] Action: raptop imagines that for an ISS mission
[05:51:09] <raptop> "Hang on, we need to drop off a few sats before we dock"
[05:52:29] <Althego> iss is in 51 deg, some starlink sats are in 53
[05:53:04] <Althego> maybe it can be done, i am not use how much plane change those ions would be able to do
[05:54:00] <raptop> hrm
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[07:48:51] <Althego> no launches, no flat earth videos, sad day
[10:35:19] <Mat2ch> Althego: and rain and grey and bad weather overall
[10:36:07] <Althego> hehe, welcome back to hardware unavailable
[10:36:58] <Mat2ch> Althego: you can do some plane changes just by using earths not uniform magnetic field...
[10:37:28] <Althego> and non uniform gravity too
[10:37:39] <Mat2ch> one or two degrees should be possible in a decent amout of time
[10:38:22] <Althego> but it would still be a pretty kerbal launch, because timing is an issue, and you have to time to get to iss and to be in the correct requirement plane for the sats. double restrictions
[10:38:33] <Althego> and you could only take a few of them anyway
[10:38:37] <Althego> not worth it
[10:44:50] <Mat2ch> nah, not really
[10:44:54] <Mat2ch> but would make a nice tech demo
[10:46:28] <Althego> so the first totally space tourist flight
[10:46:32] <Althego> is not going to have tom cruise
[10:49:38] <Mat2ch> not?
[10:50:13] <Althego> instead 3 rich guys and the actual commander
[10:50:28] <Althego> think of it how rich they must be to pay a ticket
[10:51:08] <Althego> does the iss even have accomodations for this many people?
[10:55:48] <Mat2ch> How long is the stay?
[10:56:00] <Althego> few weeks
[10:56:14] <Mat2ch> they could all sleep in the capsule
[10:56:18] <Mat2ch> there's enough space there
[10:56:46] <Althego> ah yes it is not the soyuz
[10:56:58] <Mat2ch> even got a toilet
[10:57:07] <Mat2ch> well, not a nice one, like the soyuz tbh
[10:57:11] <Althego> i think they went up to 12 people once? so maybe the iss is enough
[10:59:09] <Mat2ch> There should be a list of beds somewhere ;)
[18:05:59] <Althego> first this https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1355255403945332737 then this https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1355452426875064320
[18:06:20] <Althego> at least after this they can move out the crane to safety
[20:27:38] <Mat2ch> I wonder why the crane is still attached
[20:27:49] <Mat2ch> I thought they have a system that holds the rocket down
[20:27:51] <Althego> probably stability
[20:29:28] <Althego> must make our rocket lyapunov stable :)
[20:29:42] <Mat2ch> almost every car driving by the cam is a huge inefficient pickup truck
[20:29:44] <Mat2ch> crazy
[20:29:52] <Althego> americans
[20:30:01] <minas_tirith> Althego, are you a mathematician
[20:30:06] <Althego> no
[20:30:15] <Althego> that is why the cybertruck, as ugly as it is, going to be a huge success
[20:30:28] <Althego> because most people dont use pickups to actually transport things
[20:30:48] <Mat2ch> now a Tesla is going by
[20:30:50] <minas_tirith> Lyapunov stability seems like a mathematician thing
[20:31:18] <Althego> technically right, but it is the basis of the control theory of nonlinear systems
[20:31:44] <Mat2ch> and now a jeep, which looks rather small compared to all the F150s...
[20:32:27] <minas_tirith> Althego, whatever you said is very mathy too
[20:36:07] Action: raptop vaguely recalls seeing something about lyapunov time in predicting planetary orbits
[20:36:24] <Althego> the original application was for that
[20:38:58] <raptop> ah, makes sense
[21:29:35] <darsie> If people shared cars they could use the right car for the right job. Since they don't, they have to use a car that fits most jobs, but not ideally.
[21:36:22] <raptop> Families do, and theoretically buses/trains can provide "cars" for some purposes
[21:37:10] <raptop> (in practice of course, buses and trains somewhat unreliable and have very limited temporal and spacial coverage)
[22:06:31] <raptop> ;outcome add For some reason, subsequent modifications make your designs increasingly crab-like.
[22:06:31] <LunchBot> raptop: Added outcome: For some reason, subsequent modifications make your designs increasingly crab-like.