[03:36:00] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:05:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:26:17] think I'll try to push to do a video tonight... [07:31:10] ??? Its May 30th, wheres the expansion? [07:34:32] huh... you can also see a few other unrelated satellites passing by, as well as one shooting star: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6v47CmRA7A [10:03:52] uff... so.. who's still awake? [10:08:11] . [10:08:26] Action: darsie pushes a 3700 t asteroid to Kerbin orbit. [10:09:17] Was almost in orbit initially, but nearly polar and I wanted equatorial, so I let it go back to solar orbit and killing inclination there. [10:09:57] started looking into game recording, half wondered if anyone got experience [10:10:13] was going to use obs but... seems I also got AMD's ReLive on here too? [10:10:13] I'm wondering about these things, too. [10:10:20] Which OS? [10:10:26] Win7-64 [10:10:38] Action: darsie has debian (8?). [10:10:44] stretch [10:11:03] I barely know Debian as it is... roommate is major linux user [10:18:21] think at this point.. its mostly trying to figure out the recording software, get used to the hot-keys [10:19:56] I was doing 1920x1080 with obs at 8mbyte bitrate adn it was slogging. Relive ramped that up to 22, a little chunkiness but probably cuz I was panning around stupid fast [10:24:31] hehe the expansion [10:25:00] that probably happens in the afternoon, by mexican time, so it may be tomorrow in europe or elsewhere [10:25:44] oh.. guess from earlier... [10:25:53] ya.. timezones [10:37:44] I use OBS to record tutorial videos at MBA [10:38:00] windows in a virtualbox [10:38:14] https://twitter.com/KerbalSpaceP/status/1133846895829409793 [10:38:26] I had to go down to 720p with 5FPS to get something out [10:38:34] I did some recording the past but with lower res, had a 720 screen back then, so probably not as much strain on the system [10:58:07] genetically modified ISP? [11:09:18] genetically modified sceptic [12:00:06] hmm. do I go "Shut up and take my money" or do I wait for a sale on Steam (that's probably going to take a while). tough question [13:16:39] My big reaction wheels got stuck torquing. Had to load a previos game. [13:18:07] I'm going to buy it as soon as it lands, from work, and have it downloaded before I get home [13:18:24] what? [13:20:20] Steam lets you do that [13:20:49] buy what? [13:20:55] The DLC [13:21:09] Which one? [13:21:24] I was continuing packbart's conversation, didn't realize there was an hour gap [13:21:51] The DLC that's landing today, Breaking Ground [13:21:57] :) [13:21:57] ok [13:22:03] doing similar [13:50:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v lol768' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:24:09] lordcirth__: well, my main problem is not enough funds in my Steam wallet and because of Krist Launch Day, the shops are closed. I do have a prepaid code flying about somewhere, though [14:24:28] so yeah, I'll probably click as soon as it's available :) [15:02:23] steam wallet? i always use paypal... [15:04:25] there's not even a "coming soon" entry for the DLC on steam that i could put on my wishlist [16:25:02] Make a new rocket in the VAB. Get an okto. launch. click on resources. EC consumption is 0.02. Press W, A, S or D or combinations (=WASD). EC rises. release. EC drops back to 0.02. Press and hold WASD, activate physics warp, release. Is EC >0.02? No? Try again. Yes? In the octo context menu slide Reaction wheel authority to 0. EC goes back to 0.02. In orbit (cheat) the okto will turn by itself. [16:25:40] Happened to me with large reaction wheels on an asteroid pusher rocket. [16:25:55] Can you reproduce it? [16:26:10] It may also happen if you turn off physics warp while turning. [17:06:50] Action: packbart quits American Truck Simulator, reloads KSP DLC store - nothing yet [17:13:17] darsie: how do you activate physics warp without trimming? I think that's what you see. when you release WASD after warp, it still tries to turn because of trim. press mod-x [17:49:11] hehe scott got an asteroid named after him [17:49:17] :O [17:49:32] 33434 scottmanley [17:51:26] so release in 9 minutes? [17:52:39] oh, right. I had my timezones wrong m/ [18:02:24] ooh, Steam downloading an update for KSP [18:02:49] hi [18:02:56] When is breaking ground available for download? [18:03:02] hah, finally that bot did what it was supposed to [18:03:03] Making History is on 50% sale *wait* [18:03:08] bogu: still don't see it [18:03:16] hehe store is not loading :) [18:03:18] thought so [18:03:25] maybe i get it tomorrow [18:03:26] but the 1.7.1 update seems to be downloading now [18:03:36] when's it meant to be up? was meant to be today [18:03:44] for you. cloudflare is dead under the ksp store [18:03:55] oooh, new DLC on Steam now [18:03:58] *clickety* [18:04:40] hey, is this thing on? [18:04:51] 33434 scotmanley :) [18:04:59] the planet [18:05:20] ( https://store.steampowered.com/app/982970/Kerbal_Space_Program_Breaking_Ground_Expansion/ ) [18:05:52] meanwhile i am looking at the cloudflare 502 error for the store [18:06:06] at least gog never does that, i it is usually late [18:06:25] and of course i am never going to go in steam [18:06:55] Cloudflare can't help if the origin server breaks down [18:07:26] lmao the website is saying bad gateway for breaking ground [18:07:33] traffic spike i guess [18:07:38] exactly [18:07:42] i expected this [18:07:59] i think i will get it tomorrow, maybe 18 hours from now [18:08:13] i rather continue with the current career game [18:09:18] *bleep* *blink* Incompatible Mods detected!! Nyan cats everyhwere [18:09:21] to be expected ;) [18:09:54] "Unsupported by KSP v1.7.1, please use v1.7.1" - sometimes MiniAVC messages are weird [18:11:31] since the delta v display i completely discarded mods [18:14:38] I use a few. Kopernicus for a custom asteroid belt, Ground/GlobalConstruction to built things on orbit or on Minmus, and Tac Life Support just because I can. plus a few more that I could do without. Mechjeb, of course, because I'm lazy and also like seeing 4 tugs streak out and dock to a large ship nearly synchronously [18:15:07] Uh, currently waiting for a bus, I'll update things in a bit. [18:17:01] yesterday i spent hours trying to fit a 9 kerbal mun lander to 140 t, i finally gave up and upgraded the launchpad [18:21:15] finally downloaded the game [18:35:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:03:25] ok it is downloading [19:08:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:13:52] Action: packbart deploys ground science [19:14:04] looks a bit like KIS ;) [19:40:09] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:50:40] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [19:50:40] why are there two kinds of kerbin's shores biomes? [19:51:21] i probably noticed this once already [19:55:40] shore? [19:55:53] you mean.. standing on the land, then in the water? [19:56:56] landed vs splashed, or something else? [19:56:57] I thought they fixed that [19:57:15] ahahahah [19:57:26] we used to aim for tiny lakes on Eve to get more science [19:58:25] I think you can still get splashed highlands? [19:59:08] yes, that can be the reason [19:59:14] i never thought of that [19:59:32] now i probably have to collect something again to have both of them [20:00:44] now i wonder wherre i can be on the shores and splashed [20:01:00] but apparently i did that already [20:01:17] Right next to KSC works well [20:02:03] can make a floating landing platform on the water... land a little craft on it, get landed on water instead of splashed [20:03:57] nice [20:08:11] had a little landing can with a couple of engines connected to a mobile platoform using docking ports. somehow I was able to get it under 30 parts. [20:09:15] drove it to the the shore, into the water, out aways. hope was I would disconnect, do science, reconnect, then drive back. Trouble was, when it released, landing thing just slid off the back. [20:10:04] hand to actually fly it back on, splash it made scared me, thought something broke. Turns out docking port was trying to reconnect, which kept the can in place till I lifted the gears [20:23:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:45:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:56:43] a scott video [20:56:49] about rocket failure [20:57:15] hehe, the curse of the internet, failed during a live stream [20:57:41] but i have to sleepp [20:59:34] don't suppose anyone awake here has experience recording gameplay from KSP? [21:00:29] i do [21:01:45] but it is not different from playing [21:01:50] you just record and edit later [21:02:18] I was going to use OBS but, it chokes, wondering if I've settings too high [21:02:49] turns out also had ReLive on here (AMD video), its not as bad but.. a little stuttering here and there. guessing normal? [21:03:36] i looked into it, and i thought action! would be better, and it worked mostly without problems (some driver updates caused issues), but the drawback is it costs some mone [21:06:18] mostly wondering if recording at 1920x1080, a quad 4gig isn't really up to the task? [21:06:32] it would depend on your video card [21:06:38] mine supports encoding [21:06:53] but you have to select that in the recording software [21:07:19] so i could easily go up to 2560x1600 without any problems [21:09:17] https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/nvidia-nvenc-guide.740/ [21:09:20] in case of nvidia [21:10:12] AMD [21:10:17] erp.. [21:16:32] Oops. I blew up my launchpad with a motor and a telescopic arm. "Structural failure on linkage between 3PT Telescopic Hydraulic Cylinder and EM-64 Heavy Rotor ... 70G ... Jebediah Kerman crashed into Terrain." [21:16:39] Experiment setup: https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/kspg.jpg [21:17:41] hah [21:24:23] messing with physics today are we? [21:25:39] sad thing for me, seems I'm a bit stuck: I keep wanting to do a mun mission and record it, because of 50th annvers for apollo, new plans to go back to moon.. but what with new DLC, this feeling its kind of overshadowed everything else now? [21:29:17] I wouldn't think so. Besides, not everyone is going to update soon ;) [21:31:23] +1 :) [21:35:41] I'm still on 1.6... did download 1.7 but holding off getting into it for now [21:35:55] fair [21:36:09] hm. GOG has a free game also. [21:38:04] hmm... so playing ksp in 1920x1080... but bumped recording down to 1080... [21:40:26] half wondering if I should joystick ksp... [21:41:31] aircraft: it can help. Amusingly, ferram4 often flies via keyboard and PWM [21:45:27] PWM? [21:46:37] I'm doing some test recording with hyper sonic jet I've made, seeing what this relive software acts like. [21:49:06] Pulse Width Modulation [21:49:25] tap… tap… taptaptap… tap tap… [21:52:59] PWM... as in manually doing it on his keyboard? [21:53:16] so.. basically old school in a sense? [21:55:03] yeah [21:55:58] well I hadn't really considered driving old school games via k/b as I did PWM.. sort of asccoiated that term more with electronic hardware. But I guess it makes sense for some stuff [21:56:04] keyboard related [21:57:42] The term is blatantly stolen from various electronics [21:58:02] (Incidentally, do not PWM realistic NTRs) [22:02:12] ok pardon my stupidity but NTR/ [22:02:14] ? [22:06:45] Nuclear Thermal Rocket [22:07:12] The KSP version being the LV-R "Nerv" [22:09:21] Typical real world examples being NERVA Timberwind, LANTRN, and RD-0410 [22:09:36] (None got past prototype development) [22:09:54] oooh.. ugh. I was trying to figure out NTR electronics wise [22:10:52] wonder if its possible to PWM a pulse jet.. probably not. All out or nothing like most rockets? [22:13:02] possibly? [22:13:03] ... eh... [22:13:14] KSP jets not so much [22:13:22] it me or guests sticking around less and less these days? [22:14:25] pulse jet, like the engine they had on flying bombs that went from germany to london [22:14:28] Lots of people who's total time in channel is ~45 seconds [22:15:00] ya... comes in, asks question, disappears if no one answers in like 2 seconds [22:15:16] or just disappears anyways after 15.. even when asking what they'd like help with. [22:17:39] yeah, always frustrating [22:18:53] i downloaded that new addon today and it reminded me that i bought the game in 2012 [22:19:54] 2011 you get dlc free... was it? [22:20:09] Gasher steam or direct from website? [22:20:26] not steam one [22:20:50] something like that. [22:20:51] got mine from website, says when you originally made order for game when you look at the account [22:21:12] yeah that [22:21:49] still kicking myself for not getting it same time friend did, though I hadn't the machine to even run it back then. We were playing off his laptop which was somewhat slow [22:21:59] heh [22:22:09] well, tempus fugit [22:22:45] I happen to still have his and my save game files from 0.18 [22:23:00] though.. not really sure if they of any use now [22:24:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:26:00] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [22:26:00] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:26:11] ... connection problems? [22:29:06] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:30:05] isp act'n up on ya I take it? [22:30:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:30:29] Action: JVFoxy tries to chain UmbralRaptor's net down [22:30:30] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:44:30] UnmbralRaptop all stable now or? [22:44:40] .. UmbralRaptop [22:46:14] For now. [22:46:35] Walking around campus tends to be bad for my wifi connection [22:59:28] packbart: Right shift .. What is trim? [22:59:40] How can I turn off trim? [23:00:23] alt+qweasd is trim? alt+x to reset [23:00:40] ok [23:00:46] right shift on Linux, alt on Windows [23:05:02] ^ [23:06:37] yeah, that did it. thx! :) [23:09:58] mmm.. trim [23:10:26] I should maybe consider re-keying trim to something else. I use it all the time when taking off and landing [23:11:30] ... airplanes that is. c.c; [23:49:35] hmm. my pendulum wheels with ratcheted bearings keep blowing with hilarious G forces and I don't know why. new toys, I guess [23:51:32] hmmm, wonder where the nearest surface feature is from the space center [23:54:29] define surface feature. [23:54:51] Did you mean anomaly? [23:55:03] Does grass count? [23:55:35] New Breaking Ground Surface Features [23:55:51] Oh, I know nothing about this. [23:56:18] can anyone send me the english language cfg for ksp and making history dlc? keithfajilan3@gmail.com is my email [23:58:03] … you can redownload the English language versions, right? [23:58:24] can't its not from steam [23:58:57] all i need is the language cfg files [23:59:41] mine is in russian and i can't read any single thing (no offense)