[00:22:31] <UmbralRaptor> Posters https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/chopshopstore/robots-in-space-a-poster-series-for-kids?ref=2l7dvp [00:26:08] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:20:54] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|ktns' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:35:23] <oren> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee59XkEufjA [02:35:24] <kmath> YouTube - KSP - Duna and back using ONLY electric power and Xenon! [02:35:30] <oren> MOTHER OF GOD [02:47:07] <Blaank> That is remarkably sturdy. [02:49:12] <Blaank> >staging ions [02:49:20] <Blaank> What about solar panels? [02:50:35] <Blaank> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EWKbHt7Vxs much better music on this one [02:50:36] <kmath> YouTube - To Eeloo And Back With A 3.6 Ton Rocket! - KSP [02:51:24] <Blaank> I guess there would be the xenon to worry about for staging. [03:19:58] <kuzetsa> 3.6 ton ... hmm [03:41:30] <Blaank> Hazardish is insane [03:46:08] <Mathuin> MJ #762 has improved landing autopilot accuracy, but it's doing this strange thing with warp, revving up and down up and down repeatedly blinking SAS. [03:46:52] <Mathuin> Landing on Minmus will take 3 hours from 490km without warp so I'm wondering why it's doing the thing. [04:09:20] <Mathuin> Sanity check: when looking at the dV map to return from Minmus to Kerbin, I need 180 to reach low orbit, another 160 to reach the SOI, followed by 930 to reach LKO? [04:26:03] <Mathuin> MJ's "return from a moon" gave me 180 to reach a 100km orbit around Kerbin. Hmm. [04:36:38] <Blaank> MJ is really buggy and the more complicated features are not to be trusted. [05:00:47] <Blaank> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3sfH1D5CQc what a madman [05:00:48] <kmath> YouTube - Tiny 16.5 Ton Moho SSTO! (no mining) - KSP [05:01:04] <Blaank> His fuel margins and Oberth Effect usage is nuts. [05:03:06] <Blaank> And then he goes and does /that/ for giggles, because why not? [05:35:46] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:21:42] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:47:57] <Tank2333> Hi [09:01:35] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:57:56] <Fluburtur> crap [09:58:05] <Fluburtur> kerbinside makes ksp crash on launch [10:45:23] <Fluburtur> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-air_retrieval [10:49:05] <Truga> kerbinside? :D [10:49:16] <Fluburtur> yeah [10:49:19] <Fluburtur> not sure why [10:50:16] <Truga> what's a kerbinside [10:50:23] <RoboFreak> a mod [10:50:31] <Fluburtur> a mod that adds a bunch of bases on kerbin [10:50:39] <Fluburtur> o [10:51:03] <Fluburtur> and I need to wait for Draconiator so he can tell me which version he used [12:11:26] <Fluburtur> it's so dark outside [12:11:30] <Fluburtur> goddamn weather [12:11:32] <Fluburtur> wait [12:11:36] <Fluburtur> it's snowing? [12:11:39] <Fluburtur> what in hell [12:12:30] <Fluburtur> nevermind just tiny ice cubes again [12:14:27] <Truga> snow owns [12:14:48] <Fluburtur> I want snow [12:14:50] <Fluburtur> not rain [12:14:57] <Fluburtur> and a plane with skis too [12:14:58] <Truga> same [12:15:43] <GlassYuri> wtf I just slipped and cut myself but there was no blood at first [12:15:56] <Fluburtur> it does that sometimes [12:16:08] <GlassYuri> like, the blade is clean, and I could see like one mm into my finger with no blood [12:16:22] <Fluburtur> I cut myself with my cutter sometimes but because it's super sharp it takes a few minutes to start bleeding [12:16:42] <Fluburtur> but fingers only have very thin blood vessels so that plays too [12:16:50] <Fluburtur> they maybe contract to prevent bleeding [12:18:31] <GlassYuri> also my finger literally feels normal again by now [12:18:50] <Fluburtur> sharp blades do that [12:19:20] <Fluburtur> also update: it's snowing for real [12:19:28] <GlassYuri> the blade isn't sharp [12:19:38] <Fluburtur> well then you are lucky [12:22:36] <GlassYuri> I mean it was still pretty sharp but dull enough to warrant a replacement [12:26:05] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/eXaPfUs6sQw [12:26:05] <kmath> YouTube - Gripen and g-force [12:28:35] <Fluburtur> modern planes can pull 15Gs no problem but pilots start to struggle at like 5 [12:28:43] <Fluburtur> what nice machines [12:42:41] <Fluburtur> I might get a micro quadcopter for free [12:42:43] <Fluburtur> nice [12:45:24] <Althego> finally, managed to finish an acceptable audio for the eve mission [12:46:10] <Althego> btw the speakers still havent arrived, more than a week after i ordered them, i should have picked them up [12:46:32] <Fluburtur> eh im used to 3 weeks when I order stuff [12:46:41] <Althego> but normally it is 1 day [12:46:50] <Fluburtur> one time my crap arrived in 2 and I was surprised by how fast it was [12:47:03] <Althego> i dont believe we got so capitalist that 1 month before christmas everybody starts to buy all kinds of stuff [12:47:19] <Althego> and you know it just needs to move inside the city [12:47:26] <Fluburtur> yeah [12:47:29] <GlassYuri> I think I once got something from china in under a week [12:47:32] <Althego> but i didnt want to waste 2 hours [12:47:44] <Althego> i got something from use in 1 day [12:47:54] <Althego> then it took another week for the customs :) [12:48:00] <Althego> *usa [12:48:04] <Fluburtur> when I ordered my steam controller the delivery guy wasn't doing all of his work so I had to call the customer service lady 3 times [12:48:27] <Althego> i tried to call them but hung up after 10 minutes of waiting music [12:48:27] <Fluburtur> at the end she was so pissed she went to yell a the guy [12:48:30] <Fluburtur> it was a nice lady [12:48:34] <Althego> ok it wasnt 10 minutes, just 9:%9 [12:49:39] <Arcanitor> we should deliver packages by loading them into cheap ICBM's with minimum of guidance [12:50:02] <Arcanitor> few hours delivery to pretty much anywhere [12:50:11] <Arcanitor> maybe [12:50:28] <GlassYuri> Arcanitor, regular small packet air also only has a few hours of actual flight time [12:50:30] <Fluburtur> early warning systems will go nuts [12:51:30] <Althego> survival of the package not guaranteed :) [12:54:07] <GlassYuri> Althego, another thing that existing services already provide [12:56:58] <Althego> but not with this rate of success [13:54:43] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255748182426910720/385790729273868288/DSC_8061.JPG [13:55:15] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255748182426910720/385790854234898432/DSC_8062.JPG [14:00:15] <daey> that latest NK rocket launch was nice. [14:00:26] <Fluburtur> yeah [14:00:40] <daey> really impressive how fast they are able to develop their rocket program [14:22:51] <Althego> and it is finished https://youtu.be/bMjlPHoZF6c [14:22:51] <kmath> YouTube - Bathysphere in the seas of Eve in KSP 1.3.1 [15:00:06] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o technicalfool' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:23:18] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [15:23:18] <EricPoehlsen> Hi anyone online who can answer a question regarding Kerbal Star Systems and Galileo Planets Pack - I want to use both - do I need to add the GPP_Secondary or is that not necessary? [15:24:03] <EricPoehlsen> it is mentioned in the docs that both mods are compatible yet it is not really documented on how to go about it [15:40:50] <Fluburtur> behold https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255748182426910720/385817420876742689/DSC_8064.JPG [15:50:37] <TheKosmonaut> Careful. It looks like youve made an infiniglider [15:50:57] <Fluburtur> t's not too far from that really [16:38:34] <ve2dmn> Can you glide to space in KSP (using bugs)? [16:43:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:51:16] <Althego> to orbit or just space? [16:51:24] <Althego> but i think infiniglide is not a thing anymore [16:55:01] <Fluburtur> I should make a special super plane for my collab with drac [16:55:16] <Fluburtur> name it "gleipnir" or something from the ace combat series [16:55:34] <Fluburtur> because the gleipnir is scary as crap [17:01:52] <Althego> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleipnir [17:01:58] <Althego> hehe those impossible things are possible [17:02:11] <Althego> except i dont know what sinews and spittle is [17:02:55] <Arcanitor> spittle is saliva [17:03:02] <Arcanitor> sinews are like tendons and stuff [17:05:01] <ve2dmn> So dwarves are from Norse Mythos... where are elves from? The same? [17:24:39] <EricPoehlsen> hmm starting KSP - six minutes and counting ... KSS+GPP + all the mods I use seems to be a heavy load for my laptop [17:25:18] <Arcanitor> it's a laptop [17:25:20] <Arcanitor> of course it is [17:26:20] <bees> EricPoehlsen: troubleshooting for long KSP loads - 1) check if you have enough memory to keep KSP in it 2) check for unused/misconfigured network adapters [17:26:25] <kubi> it seems to me that there is a memory leak in some of the mods [17:26:36] <kubi> how can I check? [17:26:40] <kubi> is there any debug tool? [17:27:51] <Arcanitor> what does KSP have to do with network adaptors? [17:28:20] <EricPoehlsen> hmm it is eating up about 4.9G or RAM currently [17:29:15] <EricPoehlsen> maybe I should drop the visual enhancement stuff (EVE and scatterer) [17:34:11] <EricPoehlsen> ok 15 minutes is not acceptable I think I'll drop GPP and the visual stuff ... KSS should be more enough to explore [17:37:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:39:17] <UmbralRaptor> Arcanitor: Unity [17:49:14] <bees> Arcanitor: black magic that causes very slow load if you have unresponive network adapters [17:50:25] <bees> EricPoehlsen: if you have 8+gb ram in your pc, then it is probably a network adapter issue [17:50:44] <ve2dmn> bees: I did not know that... symptoms? [17:51:52] <EricPoehlsen> its 8GB ram and the usage peaked at 5.7G before dropping to 3.2 after switching from the loading screen to the menut [17:52:44] <bees> ve2dmn: every file loaded takes ~0.1 second instead of ~0.001 second [17:53:08] <EricPoehlsen> hmm I don't see anything happen on the network stack [17:53:10] <bees> ve2dmn: because it first tries to search network for it, and if network times out... well, you have issues [17:53:29] <bees> hamachi, vmware, etc etc etc? [17:54:59] <EricPoehlsen> the 'network' column of ksp_x64.exe in the task-monitor says "0%" [17:56:42] <ve2dmn> bees: hamachi... I havne't heard that name in a long time [17:58:05] <Althego> lately i hear proxmox, esxi, lxc a lot [18:28:00] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dozeman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:32:05] <Mathuin> For contracts that involve retrieving objects (not Kerbals, but 'Module 9-6RL' etc), do I just need a probe with a claw and a big heat shield behind which the module can hide, or what? [18:32:26] <Althego> heat shield is not always necessary [18:32:52] <Mathuin> If I had a space plane with cargo bay I could shove it in there, but I never seem to make those work. [18:44:06] <Fluburtur> http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/Gleipnir [18:49:36] <Fluburtur> http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/Fenrir#Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception [18:53:26] <Althego> i am down to single thread performance [18:55:21] <Fluburtur> good plane http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/XFA-24A_Apalis#Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception [18:56:44] <Mathuin> KSP just went into slideshow for some reason [18:58:11] <Mathuin> Ah, kill Chrome and we're back to one second per second [18:59:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:16:34] <Fluburtur> http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/Sublimation [19:23:54] <Fluburtur> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_uploading [20:51:05] <Althego> i dont understand how the people in the videos can assemble a stock propeller that ffast [20:51:25] <Althego> for me it is always full of tiny changes until it starts to move fluently [20:52:31] <Althego> now i am trying the tube type instead of the fairing type, because that had problems, like after changing an unrelated part of the plane, i always had to rebuild the fairing otherwise it was just stuck [20:52:39] <Althego> and i get the same problems [20:53:00] <Althego> move parts a bit around and to make it work. it doesnt at least not yet [20:56:18] <EricPoehlsen> Althego - a lot of those videos are like "I did that for four hours, let me show you the one time it worked" [20:56:40] <Althego> hehehe [21:32:03] <ve2dmn> EricPoehlsen: AKA, the magic of hollywood: Post-editing [22:33:23] <Fluburtur> look at the wobble of the tail on tis one https://youtu.be/vJzDRsEKDa0?t=194 [22:33:23] <kmath> YouTube - 62 mph Crosswind in Close-up: Storm Doris