[08:02:36] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:37:29] so, when will we see SN8 fly? It looks like another static fire test is scheduled first and there are lots of street closures scheduled for the next days [08:38:02] somewhere i saw 2 static fires [08:38:06] maybe in an elon tweet [08:38:18] so maybe not even next week [08:41:39] he said something about Sunday for a static fire [08:41:46] that can be [08:41:53] based on all those dates [08:42:17] So I guess then they do some data crunching and if everything is alright, we could see a flight next Wednesday [08:43:57] hehe sn8 with moon and mars https://twitter.com/SpacePadreIsle/status/1321970656360222729 [08:45:02] hehe https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1321605428963233794 [08:45:30] yes, tesla should make catgirl robots [08:52:54] What about the catboys? [08:53:09] nobody cares about those :) [08:53:28] Isn't it weird that when we think about AI and robots they are always female? And created by men? Just wondering [08:53:51] technically ai is genderless [08:54:22] i am quite sure the japanese will make the first really human like robots [08:54:35] and yes, they are going to look like women [09:31:10] https://youtu.be/1PC47YrDtFs cool [09:33:28] chanlog [09:33:35] no [09:33:47] Still not working, eh? [09:35:01] not going to fix itself [09:35:16] Well I can't do anything about it - their entire website is down [09:35:45] how does that bot publish the information on the site? [09:36:19] It just saves a text file to a public area of the server [09:36:33] so it is running on the same server and saves it as file [09:36:42] Yes [09:36:56] too bad [09:37:00] Maybe the nameserver is down [09:37:13] if it had some kind of ftp or something i could have helped you [09:37:34] One of these days I'll have time to look into it :) [10:40:21] star wars sale on gog [12:36:57] (local) leet time [13:03:16] i see cars on the road. so no closure [13:21:08] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:39:37] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:42:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:28:29] Water found on (ancient) Mars https://arxiv.org/abs/2010.15442 [16:32:23] tell me something new [16:34:34] well, the other papers I'm seeing on arχiv today are getting into details of stuff eg: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2010.14812.pdf and https://arxiv.org/pdf/2010.15143.pdf [16:34:49] (The last one is amusing in that how often is an exoplanet paper able to cite things from 1924?) [16:38:26] Principia-related? https://arxiv.org/abs/2010.15746 [16:38:36] !tell egg This seems Principia related https://arxiv.org/abs/2010.15746 [16:38:42] hm [17:02:50] these are actually interesting [17:03:12] ...hrm, I apparently posted some of that in the wrong channel [17:03:25] the principia? [17:05:41] venus, venus, too much co2, mars mars mars mars, aint enough magnetosphere :) [17:06:27] That n-body mod [18:11:05] isnt that 100 usd per month a bit pricey for starlink? [18:13:19] considering you already paid $500 for the terminal? maybe, maybe not. I'm wondering how long that sat-tracking thingy is going to survive outdoors [18:13:34] no moving parts [18:13:54] I don't really expect Starlink to have other customers than the US Military. but that's just my pessimism [18:13:58] Althego: I thought so, on the other hand it's very exclusive right now [18:14:03] dishy mcflatface as it is called [18:14:05] and compared to the prices here... uhm :D [18:14:27] maybe the problem is i compare it to a cable based prixing [18:14:48] because with this it is possible to compete against those [18:15:07] but for that i think you would need comparable prices. otherwise it will be used only in rural areas [18:15:18] where you have no choice [18:15:26] also it is its own internet [18:15:28] in orbit [18:21:29] and we're talking about US rural areas, where there is one provider and you are stuck with them [18:21:39] and believe me, many people will switch to starlink. [18:21:46] Also it's going to get cheaper over the years [18:22:10] yes that can be [18:22:34] ad i have heard internet on ships is basically 56k modem levels [18:32:49] Iridium and VEEEERYY expensive! [18:32:52] Look up their prices! [18:33:22] and they have way less satellites [18:36:52] Althego: https://satellitephonestore.com/iridium-services [18:37:23] 55 USD for 10 minutes sat phone per month, or do I forget something here? [18:37:23] wait, is that audio only, like traditional phone? [18:37:42] lol [18:40:33] I'm pretty sure you could get more minutes for that or less on a cell phone in 1995 [18:44:17] For only $2,035.00 you can get unlimited internet data over inmarsat. [18:44:22] The number is PER MONTH. [18:44:32] And the contract is for 36 month [18:44:33] lol [18:44:43] Any questions? [18:44:47] is that the 4 geo sats? [18:44:48] Starlink will disrupt that market. [18:44:53] totally [18:45:22] now i just have to sit back and wait for my robot cat girls from testla :) [18:46:11] the first mobile phones i saw were like this https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ericsson_Hotline_Combi_450_001.jpg [18:46:25] at least ericsson and similar in shape [18:46:32] maybe a bit different model [18:47:21] Have you seen Ex Machina? [18:47:34] yes [18:48:35] not worse than any human [18:49:24] Well, worse [18:50:08] Ava had no moral problems with doing things. [18:50:18] That is worse, that's psychopathic. [18:50:20] there are such humans too [18:50:40] Yes, but they are humans, they have human flaws still... [18:50:43] also what would you do if some crazy scientist trapped you in his experiment? [18:50:59] btw, Inmarsat has a few more sats than 4 :D [18:51:31] Althego: Oh, you mean grad school? [18:51:37] lol [18:52:14] the ch53ga has a satcom systetm [18:52:26] capable of sending files, and can be used as a conentional telephone [18:52:37] and that had these 4 reagions around the globe [18:52:43] i though those were 4 satellites [18:53:24] but maybe a bunch of them clumped together [18:56:56] Nah, 5 for the Ka-Band [18:56:57] ;) [18:57:02] So yeah, not that much [18:57:11] they offer different speeds with different bands and sats [18:57:30] it looks like they get 5 Mbps download with the Ka-Band [18:57:43] the device name was scotty hsd 400 but that may have been the front panel only [18:57:50] i cant find it [18:58:13] funniest thing was the data software. that was called scotty teleporter [18:58:39] i talk about this in past tense, but these are still deployed on real helicopters [18:58:52] i just dont have to bother with them anymore [18:58:56] well, legacy hardware and software everywhere [18:59:10] I got a job offer I have to apply to. Required skill: Windows XP. [18:59:28] yes, ch53ga has windows xp on the satcom pc [18:59:59] so if you somehow manage to send a virus there you can at least partially compromise the datalink capabilities :) [19:00:32] this is all aweful. [19:00:40] I should do something with wood. [19:00:49] There might be legacy wood, but it can be replaced easily. [19:00:58] And legacy wood can be used to create new things [19:01:01] programmable wood? [19:01:07] and if it's too far gone you can still burn it. [19:01:40] yay for carbon neutral enery source [19:02:05] it's not really neutral and we shouldn't burn it... [19:02:19] it's neutral in the long run, yes, but we need fast solutions [19:02:37] yes i think the four region thing was inmarsat [19:02:52] but probably the german military has some kind of deal wioth them :) [19:03:41] Mat2ch: "gardener" was one of the best jobs I had. didn't pay much for long hours, though [19:04:26] gardener/janitor/groundskeeper, really. built fences and swings, too [19:09:48] Getting a surface sample without climbing down to the surface is possibe with a string and a sample collecting device. [19:10:06] in ksp? [19:10:13] you dont even need to let go of the hatch [19:10:27] yes. Well, that's my justification to not consider it cheating. [19:10:34] bwoop [19:10:40] what really annoys me, we have robotic arms [19:10:47] I don't. [19:10:47] but still cant take surface sampel with them [19:11:06] they are useful in different ways, because they can send data that nothing else can [19:11:07] science(tm) [19:11:14] I guess there's a mod to do that. [19:11:18] ah, that reminds me. there was a MM patch somewhere to build surface samples into other parts [19:11:19] "its just that? i have a big head, and little arms?." [19:11:23] going to have a look [19:12:04] nyone else running foling at home? [19:12:30] anyone* [19:12:42] I've been running Rosetta@Home for a long time [19:12:53] i used to run world community grid something like a decade ago [19:13:04] which also does proteins [19:13:05] switched back to include Einstein@Home (gravitational waves, gamma-ray binaries) and LHC@Home [19:13:08] but other stuff too [19:13:35] GPUGrid really puts a load on the 2090 [19:13:49] foling at home has a covid19 otion - theyre really ging hard on mollecular treatments to stop the virus, MERS too. [19:13:56] option* [19:14:12] world community does stuff for several viruses too [19:14:18] +grid [19:14:22] oh, wait. Is folding the one were you need to move molecules manually [19:14:39] it feels like they are narrowing in on sme candidates - which is extremey exciting [19:14:53] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Community_Grid [19:15:02] ah, no. that was FoldIt - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foldit [19:15:19] distributed human computing [19:15:35] these are at least not just theoretical research or physics, but can have tangible benefits, against diseases [19:16:11] yeah, Rosetta@Home had a lot of covid-related workunits for a while but that seems to have run out [19:16:42] i encourage anyone with a computer to contribute compute cycles toward a covid cure - it will primarily benefit medical/hospital workers & first responders, and later the general public [19:17:31] rosetta team has pointed folks to F@H, as theyve beefed up their back end services quite a bit [19:18:37] plus a benefit for higher TDP systems: your home stays warmer with the winter upcoming ;) [19:18:52] I use the boinc-client, also on this server [19:19:28] oh, yeah, i have heard of that via linus tech tips - i am on their F@H team [19:20:28] i forgot to post my stream links in here the last few times, but i've got a lenovo M75s-1 and it rs KSP beautifully at nearly full settings [19:20:37] runs* [19:20:53] i'm on me macbook just now [19:21:27] how have you all been? [19:22:05] trapped in a maze of twisty papers and codes, all alike [19:22:23] sounds like windows 95 screen saver... [19:22:36] almost finished this year, most of the time working from home [19:23:30] so the virus is a good thing in many ways. companies realized they dont need to cram people in an office and move everybody each morning and afternoon just for this [19:24:32] yeah - we have been on a nerve wracking roller coaster with my girlfriend's work - they ended up turning into a polling place for election day but been closed to the public since march [19:24:45] saves on building energy costs, i'd imagine [19:25:57] good news is the twp mngr decided that only the 3 senior staff would be on shift vs the normal split day teams [19:26:36] and the 4th the building will be heavily fog disinfected [19:26:50] and closed that day [19:28:37] the primary concern was that masks are not required in polling places, because you cant restrict voting based on that [19:29:50] our area is having a resurgance of cases, so it was freaking us both out [19:30:33] anyone upload anything new to kerbalx lately? [19:35:12] bbl [20:27:44] detailed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkGWJR8EiT8 [20:27:49] (what about it) [21:27:25] ooh, the Planetary Domes parts (beta) work with 1.10 (the transparency was broken since 1.7). only the large dome so far but I always wanted those back. https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/ksppd.jpg [21:27:53] working airlock doors, hollow walk-through parts, floor plate with nodes [21:52:15] Floral Kerbal Society - https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2020/10/30/201030091054506015.png (actually a logo for Kerbalism) [21:53:13] Kerbbage [21:56:33] grass -> tree -> kerbal [21:57:57] -> kraken [21:59:15] no, you are the kraken