[02:49:07] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDutnzddy4 Rocket Lab - Birds Of A Feather Launch [02:49:08] live [09:12:02] Electron launch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af-PplDIkbc to rewatch [09:12:06] the other video posted is private [09:12:19] they're getting good at this. Now land :P [12:37:13] UmbralRaptop: Topic Δv. V is volume, v is velocity. [12:41:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:44:50] it is change in volume [13:00:52] q̇ is velocity [13:01:40] feel the lagrangian power [13:02:10] I was more thinking about hamiltonian [16:45:07] Tylo lander design done. In one way nice, in another pretty boring. Now I just have to mount it to the trawler, add the satellites and I can start my mission to Jool [16:46:00] manned or unmanned lander? [16:48:25] manned [16:48:33] single stage down and up. [16:53:46] My minimal, unkerballed Tylo lander: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot21.png [16:53:49] repost [16:54:46] A relay came with it. [16:55:18] Mat2ch: Why single stage? [16:55:30] that's some serious minimalism [16:56:23] Only one solar panel :). [16:57:17] Just 5 EC in the octo2 ... [16:57:42] Hmm, maybe the internal antenna would have been good enough. [16:58:29] But then I couldn't have transmitted science. [17:19:47] sigh [17:29:15] uuhgg [17:44:05] darsie: because I can. :D [17:44:24] ok :) [17:44:52] I went single stage to the Moon and back ... because I can :). [17:46:52] Mun [17:50:56] but that can be done better than with a huge rocket [17:54:20] i like to make single stage landers so i can leave them in orbit and re-use them [17:57:57] How are you reusing empty rockets? [17:58:06] by refueling them [17:58:21] ok :) [17:58:47] first you land them on a drone ship :) [17:59:08] or maybe catch them with a helicopter [18:05:09] hm [18:13:36] I built a helicopter. I could add a docking port :). [18:24:29] i can't get helicopter to fly reliably [18:25:05] Mine fly well vertically. [18:25:16] not even that [18:25:50] I can't remember if I had a helicopter on Duna. [18:27:00] soon tm [18:27:10] just a bit more than a year [18:27:25] i hope there will be pictures of it flying made by the rover [18:27:37] i mean the one on mars [18:27:53] I'm sure there will. [18:28:03] How about video? [18:28:21] I want to hear it fly. [18:28:24] the rover doesnt make videos, at best it is a series of images [18:28:50] this is a nice amount of alcohol [18:29:11] You use alcohol as rocket fuel? [18:29:20] yeah i installed a mod [18:29:49] Ethanol or furfuryl? [18:30:25] Furfuryl. [18:30:30] what is that [18:30:44] An alcohol hypergolic with fuming nitric acid. [18:31:03] Furfuryl alcohol is the proper name. [18:31:36] Wiki: "Furfuryl alcohol has been used in rocketry as a fuel which ignites hypergolically (immediately and energetically in contact) with white fuming nitric acid or red fuming nitric acid oxidizer." [18:35:28] Mad Jeb - Furfuryl Road [19:07:47] oh, they show the periapsis and apoasis in the little bottom-left box [19:08:17] and inclination too what i always wanted [19:08:23] yeah [19:17:19] Also additional elements on another tab [19:17:37] That box was the best feature of… 1.7? [19:17:51] finally duel dump is coming [19:17:53] fuel [19:18:32] Duel dump is where you force jeb and val to get along? [19:54:28] sometimes i feel like a 14 year old girl who just had her first period [19:55:08] i am afraid many of us cant understand how that feels [19:57:45] … Is that good or bad? [20:04:46] where do we go from here? [20:05:06] maybe a different analogy would help [20:07:04] Soms ist akelig hard en soms ist haost te mooi, soms zit ie in't vrije veld, soms zit ie in 'n kooi [20:34:21] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:59:44] Action: darsie fires up KSP to make a Duna helicopter ... [21:22:21] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:06:53] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:46:22] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:00:47] Action: darsie launches for the second time, this time with a relay. [23:06:08] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:10:25] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net